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Well, I might take a hit to my newfound popularity for this comic. But I'd rather lose popularity than be silent. The alphabet people deserve just as much criticism for where they're headed as anybody else. So if you're looking for someone to apologize for their beliefs, look elsewhere. Amber and Tina are gay, but Amber rejects the notion of any kind of identity politics and the culture of victimhood. Also, I really like Tina's dress in this. She's adorable.
The way things are going in the US, heterophobia is essentially protected by law and homophobia is a crime. Huh...funny how discrimination seems to only work one way. There's obviously a lot to unpack with this topic, so I chose to keep the comic itself shorter. But I'll mention a few additional topics here.
For those wondering about that piece regarding California demanding to deny religious freedom and freedom of speech, check out this video. There are several other stories there too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO4ZmO4SalY Vincent James on the story.
First up are the pride parades. I've heard many times how "family friendly" they're supposed to be. Have you ever looked up images of gay pride parades? Have you ever seen the debauchery in them? Do you know how many half naked or nearly naked men are at these? Seriously, NO kids should ever be at one of those, especially in places like LA. Young children have no concept of sexuality or what they are seeing. It's interesting how pride parades in other countries are far more civilized than the ones here.
Next, we have "drag queen story time." That's right, grown men wearing women's clothing have been going to libraries around the country to read to very young children. They claim it's about "teaching diversity and creativity." But if you look closer, it's more about trying to normalize deviant behaviour and expose kids to gender dysphoria at an early age. Again, something young children should not be exposed to. They are simply sponges and absorb information, which makes it easy to indoctrinate them. This isn't "child friendly," it's child abuse. And did you know that some of this is done with taxpayer dollars? The scariest part is that parents are taking kids to these shows, and then having the kids give dollar bills to the drag queens. Then you have reverse, with Desmond is Amazing (drag kid) dancing at adult gay bars and grown men are giving him money. Twisted is...too soft of a word to describe how disgusting this is.
My final extra topic deals with silencing science and biology. On Twitter, scientific fact is taboo. You can be banned just for saying that men are men, and women are women. Funny how the Left says the Right denies science. Instead of letting people say their piece, Twitter is refusing to even let a dialogue form. Course, the dialogue largely revolves around anyone questioning the narrative being labeled a bigot...so not much dialogue anyway. I left the transgender part out of the main comic because it's a huge can of worms. There's a lot of evidence that shows media and corporations are trying to squash anyone who questions the narrative. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if this (and my profile) were removed from FA because I am against the narrative. Just take a look around the "bad" side of the internet. You know, the side constantly being called bigoted or racist. Like the guys in this video. This is a pretty interesting one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eaq6kbk0LZ4 Steven Crowder rebutting Vice
And for those who have pride in themselves, or actually aren't engaged in a war on straight people, there's this. A Straight Pride parade that's going to be held in Boston later this year, which sounds pretty amazing. Even if it's just a joke...it's worth watching just for what it reveals. Watch to see the hypocrisy that just oozes out of the "tolerant" left wing community. Tolerance, acceptance, inclusivity...only if you babble on about the stuff we approve of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grX1Beanxd8&t The Thinkery's take.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAPdN_sSYgw Hunter Avallone's take. 4:02 has a great point that I second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXstG0Tv2s4 Timcast's take.
So, let's finish this with a little quote about censorship by the renowned George R.R. Martin.
“When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”
Speak now. Speak frequently. Use your freedom of speech or lose it. And speak out specifically against censorship.
Art, Amber, and Tina ©
AtticusKotch
The way things are going in the US, heterophobia is essentially protected by law and homophobia is a crime. Huh...funny how discrimination seems to only work one way. There's obviously a lot to unpack with this topic, so I chose to keep the comic itself shorter. But I'll mention a few additional topics here.
For those wondering about that piece regarding California demanding to deny religious freedom and freedom of speech, check out this video. There are several other stories there too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO4ZmO4SalY Vincent James on the story.
First up are the pride parades. I've heard many times how "family friendly" they're supposed to be. Have you ever looked up images of gay pride parades? Have you ever seen the debauchery in them? Do you know how many half naked or nearly naked men are at these? Seriously, NO kids should ever be at one of those, especially in places like LA. Young children have no concept of sexuality or what they are seeing. It's interesting how pride parades in other countries are far more civilized than the ones here.
Next, we have "drag queen story time." That's right, grown men wearing women's clothing have been going to libraries around the country to read to very young children. They claim it's about "teaching diversity and creativity." But if you look closer, it's more about trying to normalize deviant behaviour and expose kids to gender dysphoria at an early age. Again, something young children should not be exposed to. They are simply sponges and absorb information, which makes it easy to indoctrinate them. This isn't "child friendly," it's child abuse. And did you know that some of this is done with taxpayer dollars? The scariest part is that parents are taking kids to these shows, and then having the kids give dollar bills to the drag queens. Then you have reverse, with Desmond is Amazing (drag kid) dancing at adult gay bars and grown men are giving him money. Twisted is...too soft of a word to describe how disgusting this is.
My final extra topic deals with silencing science and biology. On Twitter, scientific fact is taboo. You can be banned just for saying that men are men, and women are women. Funny how the Left says the Right denies science. Instead of letting people say their piece, Twitter is refusing to even let a dialogue form. Course, the dialogue largely revolves around anyone questioning the narrative being labeled a bigot...so not much dialogue anyway. I left the transgender part out of the main comic because it's a huge can of worms. There's a lot of evidence that shows media and corporations are trying to squash anyone who questions the narrative. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if this (and my profile) were removed from FA because I am against the narrative. Just take a look around the "bad" side of the internet. You know, the side constantly being called bigoted or racist. Like the guys in this video. This is a pretty interesting one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eaq6kbk0LZ4 Steven Crowder rebutting Vice
And for those who have pride in themselves, or actually aren't engaged in a war on straight people, there's this. A Straight Pride parade that's going to be held in Boston later this year, which sounds pretty amazing. Even if it's just a joke...it's worth watching just for what it reveals. Watch to see the hypocrisy that just oozes out of the "tolerant" left wing community. Tolerance, acceptance, inclusivity...only if you babble on about the stuff we approve of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grX1Beanxd8&t The Thinkery's take.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAPdN_sSYgw Hunter Avallone's take. 4:02 has a great point that I second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXstG0Tv2s4 Timcast's take.
So, let's finish this with a little quote about censorship by the renowned George R.R. Martin.
“When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”
Speak now. Speak frequently. Use your freedom of speech or lose it. And speak out specifically against censorship.
Art, Amber, and Tina ©
AtticusKotch
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I salute you for both your skill, and the words that everyone needs to hear. Frankly, with all that I heard about the Pride Parades, I was actually happy to see Portugal and Japan have some sense of Decency... Though Japan has it in grained, and Portugal still has a large Catholic Presence... Which particular states in America, and much of EU, have tried suppressing.
And frankly, it's kinda Hypocritical of FA to ban Cub art, but allow Cub Gore art, especially So if there isn't even any actual sex. (Looking at those Bums who kept AUP'ing that page of Live to Tell.)
I salute you for both your skill, and the words that everyone needs to hear. Frankly, with all that I heard about the Pride Parades, I was actually happy to see Portugal and Japan have some sense of Decency... Though Japan has it in grained, and Portugal still has a large Catholic Presence... Which particular states in America, and much of EU, have tried suppressing.
And frankly, it's kinda Hypocritical of FA to ban Cub art, but allow Cub Gore art, especially So if there isn't even any actual sex. (Looking at those Bums who kept AUP'ing that page of Live to Tell.)
But the Clintons said that Freedom of speech is evil!
Don't forget, February is Black History Month (if I ask for a White History Month I'll get pilloried).
I, too am tired of people who demand not equality, but superiority. The SJWs are standing by to ensure they get it, at the expense of everyone who isn't a member of whatever protected minority. This is the real Zombie Apocalypse -- not the walking dead, but the people who would eat the brains of the mainstream to support the tiny outliers of society.
Don't forget, February is Black History Month (if I ask for a White History Month I'll get pilloried).
I, too am tired of people who demand not equality, but superiority. The SJWs are standing by to ensure they get it, at the expense of everyone who isn't a member of whatever protected minority. This is the real Zombie Apocalypse -- not the walking dead, but the people who would eat the brains of the mainstream to support the tiny outliers of society.
Wow.
Spoken like a true old fashioned red-blooded American white Christian male.
Just watch as your flimsy antiquated moral righteousness fades away as it is consigned piece by piece to the trash heap of history.
You know, you actually have nothing to be afraid of. These people whose lifestyles or ideas you think you're opposed to are more like you than unlike you. If you don't believe it, spend some real time talking with them. Maybe actually get to know some of them. Forget the trendy buzzwords and catchphrases and listen and try to understand where they're coming from. They're no more stupid and biased than you are, and their opinions are just as valid.
Life is not a zero sum game. There's actually room for other types of people to live their lives as they please. They deserve their fair share of power. It doesn't matter what you think, and they don't need your permission. And believe it or not, they don't want to take anything away from you or make you do anything you don't want as long as you treat them with the same respect.
And seriously, don't worry, "The Left" doesn't want to take away your freedom of speech...
Also, I kept my criticism here more general as opposed to taking you to task on individual points rather than take up a ridiculous amount of time and space. I may disagree with some things you've said or how you've said them, but don't mistake that for hatred. I love you anyway! Just some stuff to think about...
Spoken like a true old fashioned red-blooded American white Christian male.
Just watch as your flimsy antiquated moral righteousness fades away as it is consigned piece by piece to the trash heap of history.
You know, you actually have nothing to be afraid of. These people whose lifestyles or ideas you think you're opposed to are more like you than unlike you. If you don't believe it, spend some real time talking with them. Maybe actually get to know some of them. Forget the trendy buzzwords and catchphrases and listen and try to understand where they're coming from. They're no more stupid and biased than you are, and their opinions are just as valid.
Life is not a zero sum game. There's actually room for other types of people to live their lives as they please. They deserve their fair share of power. It doesn't matter what you think, and they don't need your permission. And believe it or not, they don't want to take anything away from you or make you do anything you don't want as long as you treat them with the same respect.
And seriously, don't worry, "The Left" doesn't want to take away your freedom of speech...
Also, I kept my criticism here more general as opposed to taking you to task on individual points rather than take up a ridiculous amount of time and space. I may disagree with some things you've said or how you've said them, but don't mistake that for hatred. I love you anyway! Just some stuff to think about...
How many times does it have to be said: "Gay pride" is NOT about people getting together and patting themselves on the back for what genitals they're attracted to.
It's about unifying against oppression, persecution and, to a lesser extent, people like you.
I'm personally a bit on the fence on that thing with the baker. It really comes down to the question: Should a business owner have the right to refuse service under ANY circumstance? Just remember that if the answer is yes, if you said the things written in this image out loud in a coffee shop, and the owner came over and told you to get out and never return, you would have no way to fight back. But, in my opinion, this is not a religious rights issue, but a civil rights issue.
And on that note, we both agree that religious rights should end somewhere. Pastor Steven Anderson of the NIFB believes gay people should be stoned to death whenever they are found out. Do you not agree he should not be allowed to act on those beliefs?
Yes, I do realize that's an extreme example, and I do understand if you believe that baker's actions were within reasonable limits. I guess what I'm trying to ask is: How, and therefore where do you draw the line?
Also, on the topic of "why are there no people fighting for LGBT rights in areas where that gets you thrown off of buildings?" Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Maybe because THAT GETS YOU THROWN OFF OF BUILDINGS?
OR, here's a thought: Maybe they ARE helping in those areas, you just don't know about it because they have to operate in the underground because otherwise, they get thrown off of buildings.
It's about unifying against oppression, persecution and, to a lesser extent, people like you.
I'm personally a bit on the fence on that thing with the baker. It really comes down to the question: Should a business owner have the right to refuse service under ANY circumstance? Just remember that if the answer is yes, if you said the things written in this image out loud in a coffee shop, and the owner came over and told you to get out and never return, you would have no way to fight back. But, in my opinion, this is not a religious rights issue, but a civil rights issue.
And on that note, we both agree that religious rights should end somewhere. Pastor Steven Anderson of the NIFB believes gay people should be stoned to death whenever they are found out. Do you not agree he should not be allowed to act on those beliefs?
Yes, I do realize that's an extreme example, and I do understand if you believe that baker's actions were within reasonable limits. I guess what I'm trying to ask is: How, and therefore where do you draw the line?
Also, on the topic of "why are there no people fighting for LGBT rights in areas where that gets you thrown off of buildings?" Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Maybe because THAT GETS YOU THROWN OFF OF BUILDINGS?
OR, here's a thought: Maybe they ARE helping in those areas, you just don't know about it because they have to operate in the underground because otherwise, they get thrown off of buildings.
Just to add a point of clarification to the case of the Christian baker that most people seem to be unaware of; it's not that he refuses to sell cakes to LGBT people full stop, it's that he refuses to write messages on his cakes that endorse same-sex marriage, and that he considers his cakes to be artistic works, which does bring it into an area where free speech can be in conflict with reasonable accommodation protections. Imagine if artists in this community, if they were open for commissions, would be required to create any work of art that any client asked of them, even if it conflicted with their deeply held beliefs.
I believe (though I could be mistaken) that the baker has stated that he would be willing to sell those couples cakes, just without any sort of message written on it that he sees as an endorsement of same-sex marriage, as he also sells cakes for parties and other non-wedding events. To an extent, he is willing to "just bake the darn cake", but then wouldn't the argument, "just stick the two same-sex figurines on the cake yourself" be valid?
In your example of the coffee shop, yes, the owners of the coffee shop would have the right to eject such a customer and refuse them service. Most conservatives and libertarians that I know of are consistent with that standard. They are willing to simply go to another coffee shop that will serve them, just as they say that the same-sex couple ought to simply go to another bakery that will serve them.
As for the pastor you mentioned, I'm not familiar with him or what he's said, but the standard is usually that direct, unambiguous threats or calls to action are not protected, and if he has violated that standard, by all means, I am in favor of him being prosecuted.
Freedom of speech, the freedom to express one's thoughts, and the freedom not to be compelled to express a thought that one does not agree with are fundamental to a well-functioning, stable, peaceful society, because those rights allow us to resolve our conflicts with words. When people are denied the right to express themselves freely, either by suppression of their speech, or by being compelled to express a state-endorsed view point, then they are only being left with violence as a means to resolve conflict. And that's never a good position to be in, or to put other in.
I believe (though I could be mistaken) that the baker has stated that he would be willing to sell those couples cakes, just without any sort of message written on it that he sees as an endorsement of same-sex marriage, as he also sells cakes for parties and other non-wedding events. To an extent, he is willing to "just bake the darn cake", but then wouldn't the argument, "just stick the two same-sex figurines on the cake yourself" be valid?
In your example of the coffee shop, yes, the owners of the coffee shop would have the right to eject such a customer and refuse them service. Most conservatives and libertarians that I know of are consistent with that standard. They are willing to simply go to another coffee shop that will serve them, just as they say that the same-sex couple ought to simply go to another bakery that will serve them.
As for the pastor you mentioned, I'm not familiar with him or what he's said, but the standard is usually that direct, unambiguous threats or calls to action are not protected, and if he has violated that standard, by all means, I am in favor of him being prosecuted.
Freedom of speech, the freedom to express one's thoughts, and the freedom not to be compelled to express a thought that one does not agree with are fundamental to a well-functioning, stable, peaceful society, because those rights allow us to resolve our conflicts with words. When people are denied the right to express themselves freely, either by suppression of their speech, or by being compelled to express a state-endorsed view point, then they are only being left with violence as a means to resolve conflict. And that's never a good position to be in, or to put other in.
I'm looking it up right now, but every source I can find says that yes, he is refusing to bake the cake fullstop.
He said that the wedding cake was symbolically sending a message, maybe that's what you read?
Though, I do agree that noone should be forced to express a view they don't agree with. And I say that before I found out about that baker who refused to write a homophobic message and got sued over it.
My point with the pastor was not that free speech should have limits. It was that even though his religious views tell him that gay people deserve to be killed, religious freedom does not give him the right to go out and kill gay people, as their right to live is higher-ranking.
Also, could the argument not be made that by refusing to bake the cake, the baker was infringing on the couple's religious freedom? It may be far-fetched and stupid, but frankly, so is the other way around.
He said that the wedding cake was symbolically sending a message, maybe that's what you read?
Though, I do agree that noone should be forced to express a view they don't agree with. And I say that before I found out about that baker who refused to write a homophobic message and got sued over it.
My point with the pastor was not that free speech should have limits. It was that even though his religious views tell him that gay people deserve to be killed, religious freedom does not give him the right to go out and kill gay people, as their right to live is higher-ranking.
Also, could the argument not be made that by refusing to bake the cake, the baker was infringing on the couple's religious freedom? It may be far-fetched and stupid, but frankly, so is the other way around.
Hmm... I stand corrected, then. That does make it a bit more complicated for me, because I do think that there should be 'reasonable accommodation', and that someone shouldn't be refused basic services, such as buying food, on the basis of their sexual orientation anymore than on the basis of their skin color.
And you're absolutely right that religious freedom does not grant someone the right to inflict violence on others. Main stream conservatives and libertarians would not argue with you on that.
It all really gets into the philosophical discussion of positive and negative rights. I can never remember which is which, but it basically boils down to one's right to be free of having demands placed upon them by others, and one's right to make demands of others. Most conservatives are, to a limited extent, on board with the idea that there are certain things to which one has a right to demand from society (others), while libertarians tend to take the more absolute stance that there is nothing provided by another to which one has a right. For example, the 'right' to healthcare, libertarians (and most conservatives) would argue that one does not have a 'right' to healthcare, as it requires the active intervention and services of another person, and that infringes on the rights of that other person that would provide the healthcare.
Most conservatives would agree with 'reasonable accommodation' regulations on business, at least when it comes to race, whereas the more hardcore libertarians don't even think that's a reasonable limitation on a business's right to refuse service.
And you're absolutely right that religious freedom does not grant someone the right to inflict violence on others. Main stream conservatives and libertarians would not argue with you on that.
It all really gets into the philosophical discussion of positive and negative rights. I can never remember which is which, but it basically boils down to one's right to be free of having demands placed upon them by others, and one's right to make demands of others. Most conservatives are, to a limited extent, on board with the idea that there are certain things to which one has a right to demand from society (others), while libertarians tend to take the more absolute stance that there is nothing provided by another to which one has a right. For example, the 'right' to healthcare, libertarians (and most conservatives) would argue that one does not have a 'right' to healthcare, as it requires the active intervention and services of another person, and that infringes on the rights of that other person that would provide the healthcare.
Most conservatives would agree with 'reasonable accommodation' regulations on business, at least when it comes to race, whereas the more hardcore libertarians don't even think that's a reasonable limitation on a business's right to refuse service.
Erm, the science "Fact" thing is odd, because yeah it still is the right wingers refusing to accept basic science. There is no distinction between outward expression of behavior and the biological sex of the subject, putting on a pink bow does not mean you have a pussy. Likewise having a pussy does not mean your clothing spontaneously turns pink. Sex is one thing, of which there are men, women, and hermaphrodites (though there can be up to 12 if you take that right wing "Sex is based on chromosomes" idea to heart, which I've never seen a scientist do) meanwhile what the libtards at a gay pride parade are talking about is gender.
IE: Are you allowed to put on a dress and act feminine. It's quite obvious that there's no biological force stopping them from doing so if they want to.
IE: Are you allowed to put on a dress and act feminine. It's quite obvious that there's no biological force stopping them from doing so if they want to.
Actually, many biologist say the gender can be difficult to define, even in nature.
There's also several conditions that make someone appear to be the opposite gender to what they appear; like genetically female, but lack of estrogen and excess testosterone makes them look male.
There's also several conditions that make someone appear to be the opposite gender to what they appear; like genetically female, but lack of estrogen and excess testosterone makes them look male.
Lol, why do I feel like Tina could end up doing something really fucking stupid, and Amber, and pretty much everybody, would still love her because she’s just so goddamn adorable?
But yeah. I agree with what all Amber is saying here. And this is coming from someone in the LGBT community. I’m Bi, and I feel that the LGBT community is WAY too privileged and protected. That’s why they can’t stand when people call them out and take them to task for things. They’ve gotten so used to being protected and cared for, that it’s made them weak and overly sensitive.
And just incase any SJWs read this and decide to send me death threats or just resort to calling me mean names like a child, I am LGBT. So I’m allowed to say these things. Because according to you all, LGBT people are allowed to say and do whatever we want. We can’t do any wrong. So by coming after me for calling out the rest of the community that I’m a part of, you all will just be a bunch of hypocrites. And nobody likes a hypocrite.
But yeah. I agree with what all Amber is saying here. And this is coming from someone in the LGBT community. I’m Bi, and I feel that the LGBT community is WAY too privileged and protected. That’s why they can’t stand when people call them out and take them to task for things. They’ve gotten so used to being protected and cared for, that it’s made them weak and overly sensitive.
And just incase any SJWs read this and decide to send me death threats or just resort to calling me mean names like a child, I am LGBT. So I’m allowed to say these things. Because according to you all, LGBT people are allowed to say and do whatever we want. We can’t do any wrong. So by coming after me for calling out the rest of the community that I’m a part of, you all will just be a bunch of hypocrites. And nobody likes a hypocrite.
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