I do like get one :)

Wait, please tell me I'm getting this wrong. People need to pay just to get a chance to get a commission from you?

You don't have to pay me just to commission me. If not all the slots are taken on Patreon - I'll open them here or on Twitter. I thought it was pretty clear.
And plenty of artist do the same way BTW, I don't see people arguing with them about it.

It's perfectly valid and makes sense, people who support you a little extra every month deserve to be able to get first dibs on getting a commission slot.

This argument seems to come up once a week and it's always a treat to watch the dumbdumbs get buried by logic and reason.

Sorry, this is like paying to see a menu in a restaurant. I'm not sure how this has ever become the norm, and hey, if it works for you, great. But I'm taking my distance from questionable ethics like these. Good luck.

The thing about that is that restaurants are usually quite empty, there's almost always a spare table.
But with an individual artist, spaces run out super fast.
It's not that people are being expected to pledge to patreon just to get commissions, the ones that do choose to pledge just get first dibs, which is totally fair.
People who don't pledge still get a chance to commission, they're just a lower priority, which seems fair to me since patreons are actively and regularly supporting the artist.
Plus, artists are individual people who struggle enough to make income so I don't consider this questionable, but that part is definitely just my own opinion.

I pretty much agree with everything you said, except for the whole first dibs thing.
Artists got where they are because of the support and spreading of the fans of their art. Taking away the possibility from those people who save up enough money to actually get a commission and keep supporting the artist they love, by putting even that behind a paywall? Nah. Sorry, that's not right.
Like I said, if peeps are okay with it, that's fine. But that's a sacrifice of integrity in my book. Wouldn't be the first time people did that for their livelihood, definitely won't be the last.

C'mon, even in restaurant if you visit one place pretty often - you are already investing financially into this place and restaurant sees you as a VIP-person and can provide you discounts and other nice things.
If you wanna take a look at the menu in restaurant - here it is. It's free.
https://www.furaffinity.net/commissions/kyander/

You kind of missed the point of my analogy, so I'll adjust it. It's like paying for a seat at a restaurant without getting anything for it.

It's really not. It's the artist rewarding those that choose to support them.


You're taking your business elsewhere? Oh no, whatever shall they do =(

If you put it like that, it just as well means they're a sellout.
Not something I personally agree with, but it's congruous to your statement.

Additionally, I'm merely stating my dissatisfaction with the practice. Am I not allowed to voice my opinion in a polite manner without being execrated for it?

And they're just trying to make a living. Which, gasp, they sell their skills for.


I guess anyone who sells their talents is a sellout then?


When it's a bad take on an artist's earning potential, yep, you're gonna get shit. Especially when it's a take that's revisited about once a week.

I haven't seen this way before, so I guess that's on me. Didn't mean to create this much of a fuss, my apologies for that.

There can be a perfectly fine distinction between turning your back on your fans and supporters and making proper money.
Having said that, I've been nothing but amicable, it'd be nice if the same courtesy could be returned.

I don't much care about hurt feelings when people come to make an artist feel bad for their decisions surrounding their livelihood, no.

It's a tired, old take that's been discussed to death. If you had gone to a family-owned shop with this kind of argument you likely would have been told to leave. Lol.

It's sadly not about feelings, it's about being respectful, and constantly trying to instigate. Consider yourself blocked then. I tried.

Lol. Thin skin much?

More like a cover at a bar than paying to see a menu. It became the norm because the market allowed it, as much as I agree with you on this.

Yeah. I got nothing against Kyander personally. It's obvious that this has worked for them, and it's great if artists prosper. But I prefer to not be involved in such processes.

I definitely prefer it this way! I've been a P supporter of yours since you made it and I always miss your slots on FA but I get emails when you post on P and I can claim a slot easier <3

Also! Question! Do you take payments on larger commissions?:)

I'm glad you have a better chance to grab a slot, and thank you very much for your wish of getting a commission from me!

Hmm...what do you mean by larger commissions exactly? We can discuss it via notes if you want!