It's been a while coming but with a recent renewal of my interest in my BootPawz project I decided to crank up photoshop and do a pair of them.
I am at the stage now of seriously considering making these (costume usage only) Boots, but need to know what you would value these at? (please add your native currency to your estimate)
Your responses will help me work out where to place them in the market that you *points at screen* will be part of...maybe.
I won't hold anyone to their exclamations of 'me want^-^' just yet as when the time comes I will announce that I'm taking deposits for them, and money in my bank account will secure a pair, then and only then!
I really want to get some prototypes made first and work out the finer details of their production before I can estimate their cost to me, and therefore see if it's worthwhile selling them.
The handmade items are intended for use with a fursuit and are proportioned to work with the more cartoony variations as a replacement for FootPaws. However I know a few of you have you eyes on them for everyday kinda casual use too.
I have everything worked out, so if you have any questions, leave a note below or private message me.
***My website does not contain any furry related content yet (ok only a very very very small part which is in my gallery anyway) so if you're offended by fetish related ADULT materials please don't ask for access, it is password protected and proof of age is required!***
I am at the stage now of seriously considering making these (costume usage only) Boots, but need to know what you would value these at? (please add your native currency to your estimate)
Your responses will help me work out where to place them in the market that you *points at screen* will be part of...maybe.
I won't hold anyone to their exclamations of 'me want^-^' just yet as when the time comes I will announce that I'm taking deposits for them, and money in my bank account will secure a pair, then and only then!
I really want to get some prototypes made first and work out the finer details of their production before I can estimate their cost to me, and therefore see if it's worthwhile selling them.
The handmade items are intended for use with a fursuit and are proportioned to work with the more cartoony variations as a replacement for FootPaws. However I know a few of you have you eyes on them for everyday kinda casual use too.
I have everything worked out, so if you have any questions, leave a note below or private message me.
***My website does not contain any furry related content yet (ok only a very very very small part which is in my gallery anyway) so if you're offended by fetish related ADULT materials please don't ask for access, it is password protected and proof of age is required!***
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The price will depend on materials and how long it takes me to make a pair. I do hope they will work out to be good value for money and a viable option to regular foam/fur foot-paws with a little extra durability thrown in. So far the estimates are favorable, but until I know how much the final cost is I shalln't be commenting, just yet.
lets be practical and talk about material. Most footpaws are made with some sneakers, foam and fur (to my understanding) while it looks like you're gearing more towards moto-boots? (based on the image). Are you looking to build from the ground up or buy a stock item and modify it? Are you wanting to keep them all leather with minimal plastic/metal or whatever works for form, function, and of course, kink? ;)
Pricing wise, here's where I'd stand:
Motocross style boots min-ave go $175 USD. I'd pay $150 to $200 additional for extra material (price pending, more if needed and im not valuing materials properly) and time added onto something already built.
Motorcycle style boots min-age around $250 USD (something that will protect heh). Prob the same as above for additional material and labor put into it for construction, however I'd think these would be a lot harder to alter due to the nature of these boots being made.
Boots built from the ground up prob $300 to mid-high pending on materials used, stitch and construction. They (unless you say and show otherwise) wouldn't be professional grade compared to the boots I'm picturing in your picture representation and are (to be safe) aren't as durable for casual use and will eventually fall apart faster then a professional grade would.
Hope this helps, and yes, im very interested :)
Pricing wise, here's where I'd stand:
Motocross style boots min-ave go $175 USD. I'd pay $150 to $200 additional for extra material (price pending, more if needed and im not valuing materials properly) and time added onto something already built.
Motorcycle style boots min-age around $250 USD (something that will protect heh). Prob the same as above for additional material and labor put into it for construction, however I'd think these would be a lot harder to alter due to the nature of these boots being made.
Boots built from the ground up prob $300 to mid-high pending on materials used, stitch and construction. They (unless you say and show otherwise) wouldn't be professional grade compared to the boots I'm picturing in your picture representation and are (to be safe) aren't as durable for casual use and will eventually fall apart faster then a professional grade would.
Hope this helps, and yes, im very interested :)
These Boots are going to be made from the ground up and are designed as a viable alternative to fur/foam footpaws, not MX Boots out of a cast foam type material (I don't have the specs for this material yet hence the lack of detail at this stage but I will insist they have a good core strength and light weight). Though they are styled as MX boots they are in no way intended to provide any level of protection like the real deal would.
My reasoning is that the shape won't lend itself to being used on a bike of any kind except maybe an ATV, but even so, as an independent person I won't be going through certification on a piece of safety equipment. My own fursona being the inspiration, and have turned into one of those ideas that other want.
One day I may introduce a generic cover for MX boots, for those crazy enough to want to try, but for now they will be for 'with costume use only',
Design and material will enable these boots to be comfortable enough for casual use but their intended use is with a fursuit, testing will be done to ensure a fair degree of durability but like you say it's unlikely to be something with the longevity of actual shoes/boots made by professionals. I make no claims of being a fursuit maker or shoesmith, however I am a product designer and am capable of bringing these boots into a production ready state.
My current status with this project is to see what something like this would be valued at, So if more interest leans toward a more protective longer lasting Boot then I will strive to get quality as the purchase price will reflect that.
It must be said though, that I'm personally leaning toward the viable footpaw alternative with a little extra durability.
Finally thank you for your input, though most of what you've asked has already been considered it still give me food for thought and in keeping an open mind. Hope that answers you questions?
My reasoning is that the shape won't lend itself to being used on a bike of any kind except maybe an ATV, but even so, as an independent person I won't be going through certification on a piece of safety equipment. My own fursona being the inspiration, and have turned into one of those ideas that other want.
One day I may introduce a generic cover for MX boots, for those crazy enough to want to try, but for now they will be for 'with costume use only',
Design and material will enable these boots to be comfortable enough for casual use but their intended use is with a fursuit, testing will be done to ensure a fair degree of durability but like you say it's unlikely to be something with the longevity of actual shoes/boots made by professionals. I make no claims of being a fursuit maker or shoesmith, however I am a product designer and am capable of bringing these boots into a production ready state.
My current status with this project is to see what something like this would be valued at, So if more interest leans toward a more protective longer lasting Boot then I will strive to get quality as the purchase price will reflect that.
It must be said though, that I'm personally leaning toward the viable footpaw alternative with a little extra durability.
Finally thank you for your input, though most of what you've asked has already been considered it still give me food for thought and in keeping an open mind. Hope that answers you questions?
You answered everything and more :) I didn't think it would be fair to put them against regular footsuit boots/shoes with cost and time because it seemed like you would be spending more on both sides. So at least for pricing, I wanted to give them a fair thing to rate them against. Look forward to your progress!
I think the design is wonderful and I would very much like a pair of my own if I had a matching gear set.
As for the price, everything depends on the materials used, so at this point I wouldn't be sure. However looking at them for a while, the numbers $25; $50; $70; and $120 dollars USD flashed in my head. Not sure if this is helpful but I hope it opens up something for you. :)
As for the price, everything depends on the materials used, so at this point I wouldn't be sure. However looking at them for a while, the numbers $25; $50; $70; and $120 dollars USD flashed in my head. Not sure if this is helpful but I hope it opens up something for you. :)
Hmmm... I really like your designs. Awesome that you threw in what the other side looks like!
I'm curious if you had any design ideas for the back. I'm just tossing ideas out there, but what about a large black paw print on each boot... OR... you could always do what Thor did with their Quadrant boots, and make one big paw print, and put one half on each side of the boot... just some kibble to chew on.
As far as the construction, I think that you should make them more like actual MX boots because not only will they be sold like crazy irregardless, but having something high quality like that, you know that they would more than well be used for a TON of people on GF. Nothing wrong with a good solid, well built MX boot. :D I'm sure you know how those are constructed.
Generally speaking, most MX boots run anywhere from 180-400 a pair here in the US, depending mostly on make and desirability factors. I'm sure these would be up there with like Alpinestars Tech-8s. Especially with the amount of bikers I've seen with the dog ears on their helmets. :P
I'm curious if you had any design ideas for the back. I'm just tossing ideas out there, but what about a large black paw print on each boot... OR... you could always do what Thor did with their Quadrant boots, and make one big paw print, and put one half on each side of the boot... just some kibble to chew on.
As far as the construction, I think that you should make them more like actual MX boots because not only will they be sold like crazy irregardless, but having something high quality like that, you know that they would more than well be used for a TON of people on GF. Nothing wrong with a good solid, well built MX boot. :D I'm sure you know how those are constructed.
Generally speaking, most MX boots run anywhere from 180-400 a pair here in the US, depending mostly on make and desirability factors. I'm sure these would be up there with like Alpinestars Tech-8s. Especially with the amount of bikers I've seen with the dog ears on their helmets. :P
I was cnsidering more patterns for the white portions as there is some rather blank space there, and the real brands use their logos in part or whole to provide a graphic relief. I've been working on different colourways all night and think I shall include some with more graphical elements in future.
Thanks for your input and estimates. These BootPawz are intended to compete with Footpaws rather than MX boots, as the toes wouldn't fit under a gear lever I don't see the point in making them as durable as proper MX bots, besides the fact proper boots would be beyond my capabilities. Costume only :)
Certainly something to consider for future variations though, maybe one day when I get the skills, afterall my part of the UK is renowned for it's Boot makers.
Thanks for your input and estimates. These BootPawz are intended to compete with Footpaws rather than MX boots, as the toes wouldn't fit under a gear lever I don't see the point in making them as durable as proper MX bots, besides the fact proper boots would be beyond my capabilities. Costume only :)
Certainly something to consider for future variations though, maybe one day when I get the skills, afterall my part of the UK is renowned for it's Boot makers.
My methods will include some ability to customise the shape of the footbed to individual sizes, so if you have particularly wide feet then it could possibly be taken into account. The sole is going to be a laminate of Foam rubber and a harder wearing rubber on the very bottom surface together with sports shoe insoles.
Depending on the rubber used for the laminate it may have a slight tread but nothing too substantial. This will be detailed closer to the time of when they will become production ready.
I won't be using any modified shoes or boots in the production, each set of bootpaws can be customised to a certain degree as they are going to be handmade (within reason) but obviously this would push the cost up.
I hope that helps :)
I won't be using any modified shoes or boots in the production, each set of bootpaws can be customised to a certain degree as they are going to be handmade (within reason) but obviously this would push the cost up.
I hope that helps :)
Hey Bucky, glad you like them mate :) I don't have the skills to make these into actual boots fit for riding, besides that, the toes will be far too big to fit under the gear lever. I've seen guys wearing trainers on motorcycles but there's no replacement for proper footwear.
Consider them an alternative to Footpaws instead of an alternative to Motox Boots.
Consider them an alternative to Footpaws instead of an alternative to Motox Boots.
Indeed you are quite welcome! Thanks in return!!
Susandeer had (in her Doemain Comic long ago) drawn up a similar Idea (but sneakers) in a Strip in which she called them Paw-fit shoes. Being a slice-of-life comic, I was hoping she actually found them: Alas, it was just a neat dream.
Seeing yours become a reality would Definitely be Fantastic! Heck: If People can come up with their own Storm-trooper armor, Anythings possible!
Fortunately one doesnt need to own a Factory to design stuff, just a little knowhow...
Heh: Makes me wonder if there are any Furries around whom are Shoe-cobblers by trade...
Susandeer had (in her Doemain Comic long ago) drawn up a similar Idea (but sneakers) in a Strip in which she called them Paw-fit shoes. Being a slice-of-life comic, I was hoping she actually found them: Alas, it was just a neat dream.
Seeing yours become a reality would Definitely be Fantastic! Heck: If People can come up with their own Storm-trooper armor, Anythings possible!
Fortunately one doesnt need to own a Factory to design stuff, just a little knowhow...
Heh: Makes me wonder if there are any Furries around whom are Shoe-cobblers by trade...
I have said to you about selling these for 500US, very possible if you do quality work. Considering the money that go into fursuits, heads, highly specialized masks and what not that if you make something worthwhile, people will pay good money for it. That being said, skimming through the comments made about this already, that materials is the key thing. While you work on material costs and design plans, it may be worth while to get someone to make a small investment in your early stage, to get you started with materials or if there are some sort of class to take to help you.
I would get a pair once I get a suit to compliment them :)
I would get a pair once I get a suit to compliment them :)
My pine marten fursuit has the hind paws attached to the bodysuit. If I were to get a pair of boots, I'd want them to fit over the hind paws if possible. If not, I'd probably opt to make the hind paws detachable.
One thing that I would like to do is to have thigh-high boots for the pine marten where this design for the feet. I have a pair of such boots made of PVC. Would it be possible to send you the boots, remove the foot part, and attached a paw boot variant made of matching PVC?
One thing that I would like to do is to have thigh-high boots for the pine marten where this design for the feet. I have a pair of such boots made of PVC. Would it be possible to send you the boots, remove the foot part, and attached a paw boot variant made of matching PVC?
I won't be doing any variations of the design straight away, but I will be keeping the ability to be flexible in my production. Until I know the initial product inside out and have perfected the process I won't be confident doing such an alternative, however I won't turn down a request if I'm capable of completing the request.
I could see Footpaw covers being my next project as I'm sure you're not the only one wanting this look without changing their suit to work with it. Footpaws do however come in a much wider range of sizes which could become problematic for me and production times per unit.
I have worked a little with Leather and rubber but not PVC yet, so please don't entrust me with your thigh boots until I'm confident I can complete your task. It's one of the reasons I won't be taking any deposits until my prototypes are done.
I could see Footpaw covers being my next project as I'm sure you're not the only one wanting this look without changing their suit to work with it. Footpaws do however come in a much wider range of sizes which could become problematic for me and production times per unit.
I have worked a little with Leather and rubber but not PVC yet, so please don't entrust me with your thigh boots until I'm confident I can complete your task. It's one of the reasons I won't be taking any deposits until my prototypes are done.
It's hard to put a value on something like that. Like you said in reply to Kevawolf it would depend on the materials, how sturdy they are, and the amount of time to make each pair. Guessing a fair price would probably start in the $150 range and then go up. If the final price was $100 or less I would be shocked, but happy. I am definitely interested and look forward to seeing you get them in production.
These are easilily going to be $500+, especially due to the needed customizations. The only possible way to get these into the $200 range would be if they were picked up by a major manufacturer and several hundred-thousand were made for retail sale.
As it is, for the masks I made, I priced out a single valve as I normally harvest my valves from existing masks, and I'd like to change that. The valves are 2" accross and 1" deep. The cheapest I could get was $900 for the mold, and at $.75 each with a MINIMUM order of 100000!!
I Dont Have That kind of Capital: And very few people would unless one is rich from the getgo!
As it is, for the masks I made, I priced out a single valve as I normally harvest my valves from existing masks, and I'd like to change that. The valves are 2" accross and 1" deep. The cheapest I could get was $900 for the mold, and at $.75 each with a MINIMUM order of 100000!!
I Dont Have That kind of Capital: And very few people would unless one is rich from the getgo!
I wouldn't be surprised if costs where anything lower than at least 300 or more what with fur (man)power, materials, time and everything else involved in the creation.
As nice as they look you yourself stated they'd be no good for ordinary everyday wear outside of the house but I'd still by them heh
As nice as they look you yourself stated they'd be no good for ordinary everyday wear outside of the house but I'd still by them heh
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