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Well, looks like there’s more anthro dragon spirits in the picture. I first took note if when Skydancer mentioned seeing Krotsgier’s offsprings. I was like, “huh? I didn’t make any more tulpas.” Then I channeled with my subconscious using the pendulum technique, and it told me that yes, those spirits, Corro, the gold one, and Gekvige, the black one, exist. So I was like, where did they come from. I did checks on those characters before and it turned negative. Then I was talking with DiamondWing and mentioned the new dragonesses, he was like, “Woops, I did it.” Turned out, he created them in a dream. Since DiamondWing had no plans for them, I went ahead and adapted them. So for a while, all 3 of them had been hanging around my apartment during the night. Lame part is that I still can’t see or hear them. Would have seen some hot action going on. Well, since I can give so much attention to dragoness spirits with no ability to hear or see them while awake and limited Lucid Dreaming nights, (damn dry spells) I thought it would be a good ideal to pair them off with some of the other participants in the experiment. Donamar got Corro, she’s even more of a sex pot the Krotsgier. Just recently, SadnessDragon accepted Gekvige. She feeds off pain, suffuring, and fear, but also likes a good yiff also. She’s much more aggressive, but in a sensual way. Of course, that’s one of Orlinanth’s forms at the top. She just had kids.
Well, I’m still limited to just LDs in order to encounter spirits like K. I only got to pounce Gekvige a couple of times. Didn’t get to do Corro yet. It’s been a while since I seen Orlinanth (pregnancy stuff). Of cource, most of my LD encounters involve K. But unfortunately, my LDs have dropped down to one or two ever 2 weeks. Outside of the typical encounters, I did experienced K’s spirit directly one night. Didn’t see or hear her, but felt her. It was amazing. It was like this warm force touching me. You can guess where she was touching me, hehe. Next month, I might be taking classes at this psychic place in town. I did have an aura reading and healing there and one of psychics while trancing, did sence “a female spirit” near me. I did ask K to stay near me while I was there. Oh yeah, recently, someone from England who never seen my experiment posts on FA (until recently) got encounters from K after seeing my pics from DA. Did some interesting real time spirit channeling with him. That’s it for now.
Well, I’m still limited to just LDs in order to encounter spirits like K. I only got to pounce Gekvige a couple of times. Didn’t get to do Corro yet. It’s been a while since I seen Orlinanth (pregnancy stuff). Of cource, most of my LD encounters involve K. But unfortunately, my LDs have dropped down to one or two ever 2 weeks. Outside of the typical encounters, I did experienced K’s spirit directly one night. Didn’t see or hear her, but felt her. It was amazing. It was like this warm force touching me. You can guess where she was touching me, hehe. Next month, I might be taking classes at this psychic place in town. I did have an aura reading and healing there and one of psychics while trancing, did sence “a female spirit” near me. I did ask K to stay near me while I was there. Oh yeah, recently, someone from England who never seen my experiment posts on FA (until recently) got encounters from K after seeing my pics from DA. Did some interesting real time spirit channeling with him. That’s it for now.
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Let me point out that it is very healthy to be skeptic. Especially with subjects like these. Its good to question things. If I was an outsider looking at posts like these, I would be like "WTF"
My philosophy with spirituality is that if it's applyable, then it's ok to believe in it. If its not applyable, then it doesn't matter. This experiment, which I'm using myself as a gunei pig,has been going on since this summer. So far form it, I got to experience some new things that I wouldn't have otherwise. What's neat also is that others are getting new experiences as well from this and it's really cool to hear about them.
My philosophy with spirituality is that if it's applyable, then it's ok to believe in it. If its not applyable, then it doesn't matter. This experiment, which I'm using myself as a gunei pig,has been going on since this summer. So far form it, I got to experience some new things that I wouldn't have otherwise. What's neat also is that others are getting new experiences as well from this and it's really cool to hear about them.
i take it you have no idea of what real satanism is am i right because astral has 100% to do with the astral you might be thinking of the christian stereotype of satanism real satanism is about becomming gods ourselves not evil stuff , astral projection is a daily thing for us satanists so yes it has alot to do with satanism
Hmm. Sounds like a conflict of labels. I know satanism uses a lot of occultic and spiritualist beliefs and principles. Mabey the differences has to do with some of the philosophy or the higher powers that gets called on.
I would like to hear of your approach on astral projection. I'm still suffering from an LD dry spell.
I would like to hear of your approach on astral projection. I'm still suffering from an LD dry spell.
well the problem is there are alot of misguided satanists who have been taught by satanic teachers who end up being currupted since i became a satanist i notest alot of my fellow satanists had so many different beliefs of satanism or what was real or what wasnt and it got me frustraited i finaly had enough and prayed to father satan to guide me to the real truth of the astral world and the next day i met my friend holly who is very powerful and when we astral project we can go anywere and meet father satan and the other gods and i learn mostly everything from father satan himself (best way for info) and it made me sad how many satanists who get misguided because the highpriests end up not teaching the right stuff because they end up getting different views and believe me father satan is really disipointed in them but still loves them for spreading some teachings .
I'm heavily insulted since I -AM- a Satanist under the teachings of Anton LaVey, and you're the exact kind of person he and Gilmore do their best to warn people about. It's not about BECOMING a God, it's about TREATING yourself as a God, worshipping yourself above all others. It's about indulging in sins and it's about treating your friends only just below yourself, and treating your enemies with ruthless brutality.
Astral Projection is merely a tool of ritual, which is an entirely optional part of Satanism. Your ritual doesn't have to be in some dark room with candles and chalices, it can be anything from that to meditation to a sport. A real Satanist knows that ritual is merely symbolism and that none of that astral form crap is real, simply a method of helping us calm ourselves and gain the determination to achieve our goals. You obviously haven't read much of either LaVey OR Gilmore's literature.
All that new-age hocus-pocus junk is exactly what is mentioned time after time in the official Debunk sheet.
Astral Projection is merely a tool of ritual, which is an entirely optional part of Satanism. Your ritual doesn't have to be in some dark room with candles and chalices, it can be anything from that to meditation to a sport. A real Satanist knows that ritual is merely symbolism and that none of that astral form crap is real, simply a method of helping us calm ourselves and gain the determination to achieve our goals. You obviously haven't read much of either LaVey OR Gilmore's literature.
All that new-age hocus-pocus junk is exactly what is mentioned time after time in the official Debunk sheet.
well it seems we have gotten off on the wrong foot we are fellow satanists mabie we can find out more about eachother i have learned from the joyofsatan.com website about satanism then went to find out more about it i learned to astral project and have actually talked to father satan and several other beings , i think anton lavey started madorn satanism this is one i learned from maxine deitry thow i do not take all her teachings seriously since i learned from father satan she has been a little misguided since she met her husband and added nazism into the teachings but im in a newer updated info since i learned directly from father satan himself. and i even have a child in the astral, my friend who also speaks with father satan with me says anton started out worshipping Father and was going under,So he thought that if other people could make a mockery of things,So could he, So they turned upgraded darwinistic atheistic psychomelodramic
He done it for the money
because it was more important to him than Father
He became a liar, a plagarist and a hypocrate, He also teaches people that ritual is a psychomelodrama for the mind, and nothing else.
i really find that sad because the astral realm is an amaizing place but also dangerious, seriously my friend you should know satanism doesnt limit our souls to this world we can go beyong earth into other realms hell is most fun ^_^ father satan is a funny guy and very loving.
He done it for the money
because it was more important to him than Father
He became a liar, a plagarist and a hypocrate, He also teaches people that ritual is a psychomelodrama for the mind, and nothing else.
i really find that sad because the astral realm is an amaizing place but also dangerious, seriously my friend you should know satanism doesnt limit our souls to this world we can go beyong earth into other realms hell is most fun ^_^ father satan is a funny guy and very loving.
"He also teaches people that ritual is a psychomelodrama for the mind, and nothing else."
That's because it IS nothing but a psychomelodrama for the mind. I hate to argue about this in front of Circle because I respect him highly for his art, even if I don't believe one bit of his Astral stuff, but it's a load of junk. True Modern Satanism has nothing to do with Satan himself, as he's used purely as symbolism. We follow his path of rebellion against the norm, we follow his ways of indulging in sins, and we follow his destiny of going against everything that the public considers 'politically correct'. Guess what? Satan doesn't exist, and there's not a SINGLE thing in true Modern Satanism that claims he does.
Yes, Anton LaVey began Modern Satanism. He never once believed that Satan was a real figure, he never once believed that his rituals were anything other than meditation, no spiritual bullshit.
We have gotten off on the wrong foot, and that's for the best, because frankly I want nothing to do with a new-age fool like you who has no idea of the true meaning and values of Satanism. Time to go Quoting the Scriptures on your ass.
The Nine Satanic Statements
from The Satanic Bible, �1969
by Anton Szandor LaVey
1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
You heard him. Existance over spirutual crap.
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
In other words, stop reading junk from unofficial sites.
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
More telling you spirutual-types to go away and find another religion to annoy.
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his �divine spiritual and intellectual development,� has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!
There you have it, straight from LaVey's pen.
The single, solitary site that will give trusted information on the OFFICIAL RELIGION of MODERN SATANISM, is www.churchofsatan.com. Anything else has a 99.9% chance of being the spiritualistic, new-age, drug-trip dribble like the one you've mentioned. Now shoo, I want nothing more to do with you.
Again, I apologize to Circle, but I refuse to let anyone read the nonsense coming out of this guy's mouth without someone who actually KNOWS what they're going on about shooting him down.
That's because it IS nothing but a psychomelodrama for the mind. I hate to argue about this in front of Circle because I respect him highly for his art, even if I don't believe one bit of his Astral stuff, but it's a load of junk. True Modern Satanism has nothing to do with Satan himself, as he's used purely as symbolism. We follow his path of rebellion against the norm, we follow his ways of indulging in sins, and we follow his destiny of going against everything that the public considers 'politically correct'. Guess what? Satan doesn't exist, and there's not a SINGLE thing in true Modern Satanism that claims he does.
Yes, Anton LaVey began Modern Satanism. He never once believed that Satan was a real figure, he never once believed that his rituals were anything other than meditation, no spiritual bullshit.
We have gotten off on the wrong foot, and that's for the best, because frankly I want nothing to do with a new-age fool like you who has no idea of the true meaning and values of Satanism. Time to go Quoting the Scriptures on your ass.
The Nine Satanic Statements
from The Satanic Bible, �1969
by Anton Szandor LaVey
1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
You heard him. Existance over spirutual crap.
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
In other words, stop reading junk from unofficial sites.
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
More telling you spirutual-types to go away and find another religion to annoy.
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his �divine spiritual and intellectual development,� has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!
There you have it, straight from LaVey's pen.
The single, solitary site that will give trusted information on the OFFICIAL RELIGION of MODERN SATANISM, is www.churchofsatan.com. Anything else has a 99.9% chance of being the spiritualistic, new-age, drug-trip dribble like the one you've mentioned. Now shoo, I want nothing more to do with you.
Again, I apologize to Circle, but I refuse to let anyone read the nonsense coming out of this guy's mouth without someone who actually KNOWS what they're going on about shooting him down.
ok calm down rambo , but you go ahead and believe what you want from a single person but i dont ust believe what i read i learn meditations from the JOS site (and yes it is offical) anyways i fidn my path to father satan and obviously the astrla does exist even if you dont believe it i havemnt taken many trips to it in heaven and hell and met and talked to father satan with many of my satanic friends now you need to calm the fuck down i know the satanic statement an one of them is stupidity which is somthing your commiting you want to learn the truth dont just listen to every teaching one man teaches you he says astral isnt real or whatever well hes keeping you away from what you can really accomplish and if you think your more powerful then me in the astral or spirtualy i like you to try and fight me in the astral cause i dont attack other satanists because father doesnt like it but if you wanna try me in astral i say bring it. and since you have no spiritual abilitys i have no worrys. cause im advancing more and more and becoming more powerful without the use if rituils if thats wat you believe in do meditations not rituils rituils are for the weaker ones. everything im able to do is with my mind.
"but you go ahead and believe what you want from a single person"
There are some ideas of Satanism that are up to the user. The ONLY thing I believe comes from my own head. I merely read the combined works of many of the High Priests of the (ONLY) Official Church of Satan and use it to further my own philosophizing.
"JOS site (and yes it is offical)"
No, it's not. LaVey is the original founder of the ONLY official religion named under Satanism. He has it officially recognized by those idiots over in the US who're in charge of religion which means the only things that are officially Satanic document are those that are endorsed by the currect Magus, Peter H. Gilmore.
"i know the satanic statement an one of them is stupidity which is somthing your commiting"
I'm sure poor LaVey is spinning in his grave at this coming from -you-.
"anyways i fidn my path to father satan and obviously the astrla does exist even if you dont believe it"
Obviously? Apparently you need a dictionary. The Astral may 'obviously' exist in your LSD'd-up mind, but for anyone who isn't suffering from multiple drug trips, the Astral is right up there with tarot and astrology.
"and if you think your more powerful then me in the astral or spirtualy i like you to try and fight me in the astral"
Right. I'm more powerful than you in a plane of existance that DOESN'T EXIST. What makes you think I think I'm stronger than you, in some stupid area that I DON'T BELIEVE IN? You've said some stupid stuff but this is definately the worst.
"everything im able to do is with my mind."
That's funny, since you can't ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING TO ME WITH YOUR MIND, other than come up with these LUDICROUS, RIDICULOUS ideas that you berate me with. Satanism is about getting results in the REAL world, and while you and your unnofficial buddies are off frolicking between the stars or what the hell ever, I'll be out there using a little something called 'charisma' to actually MAKE something of myself in, you know, the REAL world?
The simple fact of the matter is, I'm speaking from the views of the Church of Satan. The Official Church of Satan, the only Satan-oriented State Religion (AKA Official Religion), and you're speaking from the views of... Get this... A site hosted on Angelfire. Made by someone with '666' in their name...
...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH! Ahhh, MAN! That's GOLDEN.
The Astral Plane does not exist.
Your joyofsatan.com site is merely a redirection to the Angelfire site of some idiot with '666' in his name who probably spends all his time masturbating to images of the nonexistant Satan.
Your 'spiritual abilities' are going to leave you in a gutter in 20 years smoking pot, whereas my philosophies, that have been helped develop thanks to the OFFICIAl Church of Satan, will help me become a successful person... In the REAL world.
This debate is over. Good day.
There are some ideas of Satanism that are up to the user. The ONLY thing I believe comes from my own head. I merely read the combined works of many of the High Priests of the (ONLY) Official Church of Satan and use it to further my own philosophizing.
"JOS site (and yes it is offical)"
No, it's not. LaVey is the original founder of the ONLY official religion named under Satanism. He has it officially recognized by those idiots over in the US who're in charge of religion which means the only things that are officially Satanic document are those that are endorsed by the currect Magus, Peter H. Gilmore.
"i know the satanic statement an one of them is stupidity which is somthing your commiting"
I'm sure poor LaVey is spinning in his grave at this coming from -you-.
"anyways i fidn my path to father satan and obviously the astrla does exist even if you dont believe it"
Obviously? Apparently you need a dictionary. The Astral may 'obviously' exist in your LSD'd-up mind, but for anyone who isn't suffering from multiple drug trips, the Astral is right up there with tarot and astrology.
"and if you think your more powerful then me in the astral or spirtualy i like you to try and fight me in the astral"
Right. I'm more powerful than you in a plane of existance that DOESN'T EXIST. What makes you think I think I'm stronger than you, in some stupid area that I DON'T BELIEVE IN? You've said some stupid stuff but this is definately the worst.
"everything im able to do is with my mind."
That's funny, since you can't ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING TO ME WITH YOUR MIND, other than come up with these LUDICROUS, RIDICULOUS ideas that you berate me with. Satanism is about getting results in the REAL world, and while you and your unnofficial buddies are off frolicking between the stars or what the hell ever, I'll be out there using a little something called 'charisma' to actually MAKE something of myself in, you know, the REAL world?
The simple fact of the matter is, I'm speaking from the views of the Church of Satan. The Official Church of Satan, the only Satan-oriented State Religion (AKA Official Religion), and you're speaking from the views of... Get this... A site hosted on Angelfire. Made by someone with '666' in their name...
...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH! Ahhh, MAN! That's GOLDEN.
The Astral Plane does not exist.
Your joyofsatan.com site is merely a redirection to the Angelfire site of some idiot with '666' in his name who probably spends all his time masturbating to images of the nonexistant Satan.
Your 'spiritual abilities' are going to leave you in a gutter in 20 years smoking pot, whereas my philosophies, that have been helped develop thanks to the OFFICIAl Church of Satan, will help me become a successful person... In the REAL world.
This debate is over. Good day.
ok jackass believ whatever you want but i know the truth and go ahead and believ astral projection is stuff from a drug trip since i haven never done drugs in my life and you can go ahead and limit yourself i dont care but dont tell me your beliefs in the first place because i never asked for them in the first place theres alot of beliefs on satanism and we will have t find out eventually which ones true so it doesnt matter is laVey was the original founder doesnt mean he always new what he was talking about since he never talked to father satan he nver astral projected but go ahead and believe it just dont tell me your beliefs since i dont wanna hear it we all go by the satanic staements and alot of satanists have there own believfs since alot of satanic documents were destroyed by the christians so just basicaly you live your satanic life i live mine so dont bitch at me about my beliefs i wont bitch at your ok end of story and i also didnt mean joyofsatan.COM i ment joyofsatan.ORG yes there is org so whatever small fry. see ya and dont try and bitch to me again.
ok well we both have different views and its not like im those satanists who believe satans evil so we really shouldnt be in this big a fight, seriously since i know most satanist started with laVey and went on to find out more even maxine founder of JOS started with him so i guess its not big deal.
FWIW, I have been a student of astrology for some time and it's pretty fascinating stuff. The practice of using meditation, visualization, trance states, Lucid Dreaming (you ever do that??? I kinda doubt it, honestly), chanting, etc, the channeling of energy thru the body, chakras . . . these are all ANCIENT practices. As old as Satan, surely. Some of the greatest minds of our time, such as Carl Gustav Jung (look him up, eh?) were fascinated with the possibility of using our conscious and subconscious minds, to tap into our potential and the Universal Mind (or Source or Spirit, God or what have you) in order to deepen our understanding of ourselves and our world. The people who practice these teachings take all of this very seriously, and are almost always extremely secure in their beliefs, without needing validation from others . . . they know in their hearts that this is the truest way to live, and won't need to quote authors or founders as some kind of all-powerful authority.
I am sorry if this is stirring things up but eh, I really didn't appreciate the tone of voice, berating and ridiculing this guy for his obviously, deeply personal beliefs and practices. As a fellow traveler on a path to my own personal truth, I felt I had to stand up for the team :p I guess all I'm saying is, how can any one person know all there is to know about how things work in this world? Or the Astral world, for that matter. Anyway, you just keep using all that charisma you so obviously possess, and I wish you all the best.
Peace
~Kabuki
I am sorry if this is stirring things up but eh, I really didn't appreciate the tone of voice, berating and ridiculing this guy for his obviously, deeply personal beliefs and practices. As a fellow traveler on a path to my own personal truth, I felt I had to stand up for the team :p I guess all I'm saying is, how can any one person know all there is to know about how things work in this world? Or the Astral world, for that matter. Anyway, you just keep using all that charisma you so obviously possess, and I wish you all the best.
Peace
~Kabuki
I've already apologized to Circle, although I should have apologized to anyone else reading. I don't mind if you believe in Spiritual stuff, it's none of my concern. I also don't care if fellow Satanists believe in it, or anyone else. While I may not believe in it, it'd be nothing short of moronic for me to tell others what to believe (not to mention immensely hypocritical).
The problem I have is Gecko -linking- the two. Satanism has nothing to do with the spiritual other than the same basic meditations that are practiced by everything from religion to martial arts, and to claim that Satanism requires or endorses thoughtforms like that is nothing short of misinformation. With so much controversy behind it it's amazing the things you'll hear about Satanism (while other things are less surprising, such as animal sacrifices *false*), so I get defensive when people link Satanism up with something that it quite simply has nothing to do with.
Again, I apologize to anyone I've offended with my spouting my beliefs, but I have nothing against thoughtforms (no matter how cynical of them I am), only having it linked to Satanism as if it's somehow a requirement of the religion.
The problem I have is Gecko -linking- the two. Satanism has nothing to do with the spiritual other than the same basic meditations that are practiced by everything from religion to martial arts, and to claim that Satanism requires or endorses thoughtforms like that is nothing short of misinformation. With so much controversy behind it it's amazing the things you'll hear about Satanism (while other things are less surprising, such as animal sacrifices *false*), so I get defensive when people link Satanism up with something that it quite simply has nothing to do with.
Again, I apologize to anyone I've offended with my spouting my beliefs, but I have nothing against thoughtforms (no matter how cynical of them I am), only having it linked to Satanism as if it's somehow a requirement of the religion.
I've never thought of psychic phenomina as being a consequence of satinism, which is a primarily a philosopy and world view, not physics. To me, psychic phenomina plausably derive from perturbations in the negative (this is physics, not an emotional connotation) energy states implied by the Dirac (won the Nobel Prize for it) relativistically correct quantum mechanics wave equation, which is the basis of Feynman's (won the Nobel for it) relativistic quantum electrodynamics. The Dirac wave equation's negative energy states (implied by taking the equation literally and not arbitrarly discarding half of the equation's solutions as "unphysical" -- meaning, so strange as to be unintuitive) predicted the existance of the positron (another Nobel), the antiproton (yet another Nobel), and antimatter in general. This was the start of what is now called the Standard Theory of high energy physics, where particles are predicted, sought for, and then discovered with the predicted properties (mass, spin, charge, strangeness, color, etc.) The square root of minus one is pretty damn unintuitive. too, but it really does exist, has physical consequences, and neither modern physics or electrical engineering would exist without knowledge and every day use of it.
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