Phoebe VOGELSONG
ART BY:
landonbay
Original Work – https://www.furaffinity.net/view/36129391/
FUN FACTS:
Lanny asked me if I was able to try and come up with another OC after I told him how hard a time I had with making OCs that did not compliment someone else’s character. So, after a few shared letters with the friendly otter, he got me in the perfect mood to create a very special new friend for Yosh, Phoebe Vogelsong
VERSION 0.1
Phoebe is a hybrid of Griffon and Finch that, unlike with Yosh’s parents, was ‘assumed’ to be ‘intellectually disabled due to her failing to meet her ‘milestones’ as a chick, yearling, and fledgling.
Yosh’s parents, not wishing to believe their hybrid son was a ‘lost cause’, despite his small size at birth, lateness in meeting milestones, etc. pushed against the dire beliefs that doctors, outside of who delivered his egg, Dr. Mick Storkawits, did all they could to bring out all they could in their child. Through help from The Gonzales’, who were friends of Yosh’s father, Duckers, their older son, Nishi, helped to stimulate Yosh’s young mind and learned how to make him into a child with a bright future ahead for himself.
Dr. Storkawits, who is related to renowned psychologist, Dr. Morty Storkawits, did deliver Phoebe’s egg a few months after having delivered Yosh’s egg. He offered some advice to the uneasy parents while also asking if The O’duckys would come and help talk to the uneasy finch and griffon parents. However the Vogelsongs refused and elected to go to an experienced pediatrician upon their daughter hatching.
The pediatrician, stuck on outdated beliefs, misdiagnosed Phoebe as being born with multiple birth defects. Most notably muscle complications from how her DNA came back 20% griffon and 80% finch. (Yosh and Winry O’Ducky were 70 / 30 in comparison through DNA testing that Dr. Mick Storkawits insisted he pay to have done for his ongoing study in hybrid children)
Mrs. Vogelsong was one who firmly believed the TV doctors and authors of best-selling books, like “Raising Your Hatchling” that babies with birth defects had a higher chance for SIDS, (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) along with, if repeatedly missing milestones, also having intellectual disabilities. Her husband, who was the griffon, insisted his wife quit her job to focus all her attention on their daughter, got a vasectomy, and took on extra hours at his manufacturing job to ensure no ill outcomes befell their ‘Special Needs’ daughter.
***
Mrs. Vogelsong doted over Phoebe day-and-night. She missed her job, which was as a Middle School, Language & Literary Arts instructor, but did try to put her education and years of teaching to work at helping Phoebe be more than what she kept reading, hearing, and seeing.
***
When Yosh got himself back into diapers at age three, he found himself meeting Phoebe as he happily took refuge in the toddler room. Outside of his sister, Phoebe was the first hybrid he had ever met. This made a friendship a guarantee between the two birdies.
Yosh was often surprised at how ‘down’ the caretakers talked to Phoebe. He could also, through getting involved with a ‘Potty Rebel’ named Sonya, could tell when Phoebe needed to ‘go potty’ but found himself flabbergasted when the caretakers would simply hold her, make grunting noises, and congratulated her on using her diapers. The caretakers doing this were under instruction of a specially developed IEP (Independant Education Program) to do this. However pre-school aged Yosh only ever saw sadness in her face as she did her business in her diapers and was talked to like a kid in the infants room over having done a great job making such a production in her pamps.
***
Yosh felt an obligation to Phoebe. He saw something in her that the adults were not. He wore diapers by choice and would stop only if he absolutely had to. This fledgling hated having no choice but to be praised for doing what her young face showed as the most awful thing she could be ever made to do.
Yosh took time to understand Phoebe, as most children avoided her even more than they avoided him, and it didn’t feel right. The way the caretakers watched him interact with Phoebe did not come off very heartwarming. However Yosh, being a total babble beak, managed to get Phoebe to start forming words, clapping her wings, and understanding how to ‘listen to her body’ when she felt a need to put stuff into her diapers.
***
Yosh, having turned five years old, was now off to Kindergarten and was, yet again, potty trained. However his last day with Phoebe was the most profound as, upon seeing her ‘potty dance’, he helped her hurry to the training potty, tore off her diaper, and was elated to hear her business fall into the training toilet instead of into her diapers that were so thick that Yosh almost considered another foray into going back to being in pamps again to just feel that much fluff against his stuff.
No surprise, but a tattle-tale informed the caretakers who only saw an underwear clad Yosh holding Phoebe’s diaper as she crowed, cooed, and chirped before running around the ‘Big Kid Room’ in a frantic search for wipes that was seen as Yosh trying to steal a diaper while sneaking Phoebe into a room where her ‘underdeveloped mind’ would run rampant in making a mess.
***
Yosh did not see Phoebe again until he was in the 2nd grade. His mind always curious as to what happened to the girl who seemed to be getting forced to do what he wanted to do. It just didn’t make sense…
…Until, after one day at recess, he spotted her in the so-called ‘Dumb Kid Classroom’.
Yosh, in one of his very few feats of defiance, outside of those Nishi got him into, broke free of his class and saw a very miserable young girl in a wheelchair moaning at the tray and straps that held her in place. He could smell her used diaper and knew she was more depressed than he got when he was told he couldn’t go swim in the pond at home.
As the other instructors in, what was actually the ‘Life Skills’ class, were distracted by other students. Yosh went about his quackery to learn how the girl’s name was Phoebe. Phoebe was sad as nobody listened to her and how she wanted to not be stuck in smelly diapers and be allowed to do what the kids she saw outside doing.
Yosh, having a heart bigger than his brain, worked hard at freeing the griffon-finch from the wheelchair. It was much like his sister’s car seat, and used his vast knowledge of all things ‘diapers’ to get Phoebe free of her overused pamps.
Unfortunately the increased smell, coupled with chirping and cheering from Phoebe, got Yosh busted, sent to the principals office, and Phoebe returned to her wheelchair prison, after a diaper-change of course.
***
Yosh, despite being told it was a “No, no.” to sneak into the ‘Life skills’ class, used a trip to the lavatory to try and find Phoebe again. He felt an obligation to help her. However she was gone, he was caught, the fear of getting in trouble made him wet his pants, and he was sent home with a very firm, “It’s because of you she’s not here anymore.”.
The little dino-duck was very sad. However this would not be the last time he would meet Phoebe Vogelsong…
WHAT DO YOU THINK:
Suggestions are welcome as I work to flesh out Phoebe from birth to when she reunites with Yosh post divorce.
ART BY:
landonbayOriginal Work – https://www.furaffinity.net/view/36129391/
FUN FACTS:
Lanny asked me if I was able to try and come up with another OC after I told him how hard a time I had with making OCs that did not compliment someone else’s character. So, after a few shared letters with the friendly otter, he got me in the perfect mood to create a very special new friend for Yosh, Phoebe Vogelsong
VERSION 0.1
Phoebe is a hybrid of Griffon and Finch that, unlike with Yosh’s parents, was ‘assumed’ to be ‘intellectually disabled due to her failing to meet her ‘milestones’ as a chick, yearling, and fledgling.
Yosh’s parents, not wishing to believe their hybrid son was a ‘lost cause’, despite his small size at birth, lateness in meeting milestones, etc. pushed against the dire beliefs that doctors, outside of who delivered his egg, Dr. Mick Storkawits, did all they could to bring out all they could in their child. Through help from The Gonzales’, who were friends of Yosh’s father, Duckers, their older son, Nishi, helped to stimulate Yosh’s young mind and learned how to make him into a child with a bright future ahead for himself.
Dr. Storkawits, who is related to renowned psychologist, Dr. Morty Storkawits, did deliver Phoebe’s egg a few months after having delivered Yosh’s egg. He offered some advice to the uneasy parents while also asking if The O’duckys would come and help talk to the uneasy finch and griffon parents. However the Vogelsongs refused and elected to go to an experienced pediatrician upon their daughter hatching.
The pediatrician, stuck on outdated beliefs, misdiagnosed Phoebe as being born with multiple birth defects. Most notably muscle complications from how her DNA came back 20% griffon and 80% finch. (Yosh and Winry O’Ducky were 70 / 30 in comparison through DNA testing that Dr. Mick Storkawits insisted he pay to have done for his ongoing study in hybrid children)
Mrs. Vogelsong was one who firmly believed the TV doctors and authors of best-selling books, like “Raising Your Hatchling” that babies with birth defects had a higher chance for SIDS, (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) along with, if repeatedly missing milestones, also having intellectual disabilities. Her husband, who was the griffon, insisted his wife quit her job to focus all her attention on their daughter, got a vasectomy, and took on extra hours at his manufacturing job to ensure no ill outcomes befell their ‘Special Needs’ daughter.
***
Mrs. Vogelsong doted over Phoebe day-and-night. She missed her job, which was as a Middle School, Language & Literary Arts instructor, but did try to put her education and years of teaching to work at helping Phoebe be more than what she kept reading, hearing, and seeing.
***
When Yosh got himself back into diapers at age three, he found himself meeting Phoebe as he happily took refuge in the toddler room. Outside of his sister, Phoebe was the first hybrid he had ever met. This made a friendship a guarantee between the two birdies.
Yosh was often surprised at how ‘down’ the caretakers talked to Phoebe. He could also, through getting involved with a ‘Potty Rebel’ named Sonya, could tell when Phoebe needed to ‘go potty’ but found himself flabbergasted when the caretakers would simply hold her, make grunting noises, and congratulated her on using her diapers. The caretakers doing this were under instruction of a specially developed IEP (Independant Education Program) to do this. However pre-school aged Yosh only ever saw sadness in her face as she did her business in her diapers and was talked to like a kid in the infants room over having done a great job making such a production in her pamps.
***
Yosh felt an obligation to Phoebe. He saw something in her that the adults were not. He wore diapers by choice and would stop only if he absolutely had to. This fledgling hated having no choice but to be praised for doing what her young face showed as the most awful thing she could be ever made to do.
Yosh took time to understand Phoebe, as most children avoided her even more than they avoided him, and it didn’t feel right. The way the caretakers watched him interact with Phoebe did not come off very heartwarming. However Yosh, being a total babble beak, managed to get Phoebe to start forming words, clapping her wings, and understanding how to ‘listen to her body’ when she felt a need to put stuff into her diapers.
***
Yosh, having turned five years old, was now off to Kindergarten and was, yet again, potty trained. However his last day with Phoebe was the most profound as, upon seeing her ‘potty dance’, he helped her hurry to the training potty, tore off her diaper, and was elated to hear her business fall into the training toilet instead of into her diapers that were so thick that Yosh almost considered another foray into going back to being in pamps again to just feel that much fluff against his stuff.
No surprise, but a tattle-tale informed the caretakers who only saw an underwear clad Yosh holding Phoebe’s diaper as she crowed, cooed, and chirped before running around the ‘Big Kid Room’ in a frantic search for wipes that was seen as Yosh trying to steal a diaper while sneaking Phoebe into a room where her ‘underdeveloped mind’ would run rampant in making a mess.
***
Yosh did not see Phoebe again until he was in the 2nd grade. His mind always curious as to what happened to the girl who seemed to be getting forced to do what he wanted to do. It just didn’t make sense…
…Until, after one day at recess, he spotted her in the so-called ‘Dumb Kid Classroom’.
Yosh, in one of his very few feats of defiance, outside of those Nishi got him into, broke free of his class and saw a very miserable young girl in a wheelchair moaning at the tray and straps that held her in place. He could smell her used diaper and knew she was more depressed than he got when he was told he couldn’t go swim in the pond at home.
As the other instructors in, what was actually the ‘Life Skills’ class, were distracted by other students. Yosh went about his quackery to learn how the girl’s name was Phoebe. Phoebe was sad as nobody listened to her and how she wanted to not be stuck in smelly diapers and be allowed to do what the kids she saw outside doing.
Yosh, having a heart bigger than his brain, worked hard at freeing the griffon-finch from the wheelchair. It was much like his sister’s car seat, and used his vast knowledge of all things ‘diapers’ to get Phoebe free of her overused pamps.
Unfortunately the increased smell, coupled with chirping and cheering from Phoebe, got Yosh busted, sent to the principals office, and Phoebe returned to her wheelchair prison, after a diaper-change of course.
***
Yosh, despite being told it was a “No, no.” to sneak into the ‘Life skills’ class, used a trip to the lavatory to try and find Phoebe again. He felt an obligation to help her. However she was gone, he was caught, the fear of getting in trouble made him wet his pants, and he was sent home with a very firm, “It’s because of you she’s not here anymore.”.
The little dino-duck was very sad. However this would not be the last time he would meet Phoebe Vogelsong…
WHAT DO YOU THINK:
Suggestions are welcome as I work to flesh out Phoebe from birth to when she reunites with Yosh post divorce.
Category All / Baby fur
Species Avian (Other)
Size 648 x 792px
File Size 37.1 kB
She'll feel like a 'Bird Of Paradise' once her life story catches up to Yosh's life story. :)
This story is an experiment, with a happy ending, to show what happens when you choose the path of 'Status Quo' without finding out if a 'birth defect' really is what textbook wisdom makes it out to be.
I was born with Glaucoma and my parents were told many stories of how miserable my life would be as I lost my sight by Age 1, Age 2, Age 10, Age 20, and, after they stopped with the whole 'doomsday talk', I lost all my sight when I was almost 37 years old. Not bad for a kid who, without being 'challenged' and 'encouraged' would've been given the "Intellectually disabled" label along with "Blind" label due to how a small-town school district was too afraid to offer me work that was beyond passing a beanbag around.
Hopefully, through this story and others, I can help show how "Status Quo" beliefs and "Textbook Diagnoses" are not the 100% of a situation. The human brain can do far more than the physical body may ever show. The challenge, for one's self and those around them, is to never stop doing all they can to see just where the 'true' limits lie. :)
Fortunately, with Phoebe here, Yosh is going to, after losing his wife to someone else, have fate strike him when he saves her from being committed to a 'Shelter' / 'Group Home' as, over more encounters, Yosh knows she is being misdiagnosed, underchallenged, and left to feel 'stuck' in a body that, if only someone saw more in her, would do a lot more than simply look incompotent.
***
At a personal level, I do not like how society has this tendency to throw in "Learning disability" with physical and/or psychological limitations. Often times it is just a matter of finding the right 'tools' and 'communication' that allow someone to be what they can truly be. Yosh, as he meets her more-and-more, will see to it that Phoebe doesn't stay stuck by a misunderstanding society when she has loads of untapped potential.
This story is an experiment, with a happy ending, to show what happens when you choose the path of 'Status Quo' without finding out if a 'birth defect' really is what textbook wisdom makes it out to be.
I was born with Glaucoma and my parents were told many stories of how miserable my life would be as I lost my sight by Age 1, Age 2, Age 10, Age 20, and, after they stopped with the whole 'doomsday talk', I lost all my sight when I was almost 37 years old. Not bad for a kid who, without being 'challenged' and 'encouraged' would've been given the "Intellectually disabled" label along with "Blind" label due to how a small-town school district was too afraid to offer me work that was beyond passing a beanbag around.
Hopefully, through this story and others, I can help show how "Status Quo" beliefs and "Textbook Diagnoses" are not the 100% of a situation. The human brain can do far more than the physical body may ever show. The challenge, for one's self and those around them, is to never stop doing all they can to see just where the 'true' limits lie. :)
Fortunately, with Phoebe here, Yosh is going to, after losing his wife to someone else, have fate strike him when he saves her from being committed to a 'Shelter' / 'Group Home' as, over more encounters, Yosh knows she is being misdiagnosed, underchallenged, and left to feel 'stuck' in a body that, if only someone saw more in her, would do a lot more than simply look incompotent.
***
At a personal level, I do not like how society has this tendency to throw in "Learning disability" with physical and/or psychological limitations. Often times it is just a matter of finding the right 'tools' and 'communication' that allow someone to be what they can truly be. Yosh, as he meets her more-and-more, will see to it that Phoebe doesn't stay stuck by a misunderstanding society when she has loads of untapped potential.
okay
but thats not what Bird of Paradise means
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWfyw51DQfU
this is a bird of Paradise, it's a species of un-named Birds, and I hope Pokemon sees this and makes pokemon of these amazing avians
but thats not what Bird of Paradise means
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWfyw51DQfU
this is a bird of Paradise, it's a species of un-named Birds, and I hope Pokemon sees this and makes pokemon of these amazing avians
Eh, a lot darker backstory than I was anticipating.
Is the happiness vs sadness an example of contrast between the ducky and her? Yosh (happy life) vs Phoebie (not so much)
I can tell many things from this with parenting.
The Vogelsongs grew up in mostly suburban and/or city life haven't they? While I do not have much city-life perspective, from stories I've read, sounds like a choice a city dweller makes. Because the resources are there to care for Phoebie, so they will use it.
While the O'Ducky's (from my understanding) grew up in rather Rural Areas. I am under the impression that the O'Duckies value self-reliance. And due to this way of growing up. They find it more important for Yosh and Winry to still learn to do things for themselves rather then utilize these resources which they feel may hinder growth.
This reminds me of one of my characters: Oskar.
When the first sign of abuse was going on in Spec.Edu department at the school, his grandparents pulled him out immediately. Just like the Oducky's, the Smittys are from a rural background as well.
(Is my assessment correct?)
I would be investigating that IEP if I was calling the shots. Sounds to me they would rather just look after her rather than help her grow. The goal of education is to help instill growth to make a productive member of society, not just simply watch them and get paid regardless. And one of these things is helping her use the toilet.
pretty developed backstory, just a lot darker than I was expecting. It does tell alot of perspective in the respect of how the two families take different approaches to nearly the same situation.
Is the happiness vs sadness an example of contrast between the ducky and her? Yosh (happy life) vs Phoebie (not so much)
I can tell many things from this with parenting.
The Vogelsongs grew up in mostly suburban and/or city life haven't they? While I do not have much city-life perspective, from stories I've read, sounds like a choice a city dweller makes. Because the resources are there to care for Phoebie, so they will use it.
While the O'Ducky's (from my understanding) grew up in rather Rural Areas. I am under the impression that the O'Duckies value self-reliance. And due to this way of growing up. They find it more important for Yosh and Winry to still learn to do things for themselves rather then utilize these resources which they feel may hinder growth.
This reminds me of one of my characters: Oskar.
When the first sign of abuse was going on in Spec.Edu department at the school, his grandparents pulled him out immediately. Just like the Oducky's, the Smittys are from a rural background as well.
(Is my assessment correct?)
I would be investigating that IEP if I was calling the shots. Sounds to me they would rather just look after her rather than help her grow. The goal of education is to help instill growth to make a productive member of society, not just simply watch them and get paid regardless. And one of these things is helping her use the toilet.
pretty developed backstory, just a lot darker than I was expecting. It does tell alot of perspective in the respect of how the two families take different approaches to nearly the same situation.
It is 'dark' but, truly, you read my mind without me ever given that aspect of 'The parents Background' much thought.
Phoebe is my way to see the value in what my parents did for me. Her parents just going with 'textbook diagnosis' over seeing her 'true limits' along with 'learning to understand her' over 'Phoebe understanding them' is my way of illustrating how the "One size fits all" parenting guides, "Textbook Beliefs", etc. is as much right as it is 'wrong'.
***
Short story - When I was younger, my parents got me into regular public school. They were very often given a lot of negative opinions for sending a 'disabled child' into 'normal school'.
As I was going through 2nd grade, I was unaware the school district was pushing for me to be put in 'Life skills' and end my advancement through public school. However, unknown to me, my father tore into the school district and told them, "You are not challenging him! Wouldn't you get bored just passing a bean bag around over-and-over?".
My father's battle is what got me into 3rd grade. The rest was all me up until my acquiring my MBA. My father could have made it easier by allowing them to show me 'tools' to help me know what was on the blackboard, use a cane, etc. However, for this tale, we'll forget the 90% screw-ups and focus on those 10% of times his actions saved me, and also my sister, from having 'Intellectually disabled' added to 'Blind / Visually Impaired'.
***
IRL, I have talked to a lot of people with various degrees of vision loss. The saddest, and far too common, answers I hear from them are, "I can't do...". The worst of these being how, while in Colorado in 2005, I got to hear, for sake I said anything bad due to how 'independant' I was in my current situation, stories of how students who came to The Colorado Center Of The Blind who, in their 20s, were unable to bathe themselves, clean themselves after going potty, etc. This was heartbreaking and heartwrenching.
During my stay, I found a lot of 'lost' students who were sent to the school to 'learn' but never told 'why', or 'what' they were to learn. So I served as a coach to let them know how, to me anyway, it was a place to fine-tune your non-visual abilities while gaining 'confidence' in being able to do what they never thought, nor were encouraged, to do up until that point in their lives.
***
It pains me to give Phoebe Vogelsong such a back story. However, as our discussions about her came about, she does get a 'Happy Ending' as Yosh, who becomes more genuinely diaper-dependant when tina Bear leaves him, will find Phoebe again. However, before she is shuffled off to another 'Living Facility', Yosh intercepts her, takes the time to help her prove she isn't what society, misdiagnoses her to be, and, with her parents permission, has her live with him. Phoebe starts to learn just how much she can do and, within a year, she is more independent than she had ever been in all her life.
***
However, again, this is really a way for me to see 'what could have happened' and how, where I can, I try to help people not give in to stereotypes, stigmas, and dire 'self-fulfilling prophecies'.
NOTE:
Yosh has her by Age 30. She's about 28, going on 29, and the celebration is how her 30s are a decade of Phoebe's happy life with someone who, like her, was largely underestimated. The rest of their lives is all about appreciation, helping others, and showing her parents 'The Real Phoebe' over what others lead them to believe of her.
***
Truly, and I believe in this immensely, one person who cares, like you, can make a big difference in the life of someone, like me. :)
Phoebe is my way to see the value in what my parents did for me. Her parents just going with 'textbook diagnosis' over seeing her 'true limits' along with 'learning to understand her' over 'Phoebe understanding them' is my way of illustrating how the "One size fits all" parenting guides, "Textbook Beliefs", etc. is as much right as it is 'wrong'.
***
Short story - When I was younger, my parents got me into regular public school. They were very often given a lot of negative opinions for sending a 'disabled child' into 'normal school'.
As I was going through 2nd grade, I was unaware the school district was pushing for me to be put in 'Life skills' and end my advancement through public school. However, unknown to me, my father tore into the school district and told them, "You are not challenging him! Wouldn't you get bored just passing a bean bag around over-and-over?".
My father's battle is what got me into 3rd grade. The rest was all me up until my acquiring my MBA. My father could have made it easier by allowing them to show me 'tools' to help me know what was on the blackboard, use a cane, etc. However, for this tale, we'll forget the 90% screw-ups and focus on those 10% of times his actions saved me, and also my sister, from having 'Intellectually disabled' added to 'Blind / Visually Impaired'.
***
IRL, I have talked to a lot of people with various degrees of vision loss. The saddest, and far too common, answers I hear from them are, "I can't do...". The worst of these being how, while in Colorado in 2005, I got to hear, for sake I said anything bad due to how 'independant' I was in my current situation, stories of how students who came to The Colorado Center Of The Blind who, in their 20s, were unable to bathe themselves, clean themselves after going potty, etc. This was heartbreaking and heartwrenching.
During my stay, I found a lot of 'lost' students who were sent to the school to 'learn' but never told 'why', or 'what' they were to learn. So I served as a coach to let them know how, to me anyway, it was a place to fine-tune your non-visual abilities while gaining 'confidence' in being able to do what they never thought, nor were encouraged, to do up until that point in their lives.
***
It pains me to give Phoebe Vogelsong such a back story. However, as our discussions about her came about, she does get a 'Happy Ending' as Yosh, who becomes more genuinely diaper-dependant when tina Bear leaves him, will find Phoebe again. However, before she is shuffled off to another 'Living Facility', Yosh intercepts her, takes the time to help her prove she isn't what society, misdiagnoses her to be, and, with her parents permission, has her live with him. Phoebe starts to learn just how much she can do and, within a year, she is more independent than she had ever been in all her life.
***
However, again, this is really a way for me to see 'what could have happened' and how, where I can, I try to help people not give in to stereotypes, stigmas, and dire 'self-fulfilling prophecies'.
NOTE:
Yosh has her by Age 30. She's about 28, going on 29, and the celebration is how her 30s are a decade of Phoebe's happy life with someone who, like her, was largely underestimated. The rest of their lives is all about appreciation, helping others, and showing her parents 'The Real Phoebe' over what others lead them to believe of her.
***
Truly, and I believe in this immensely, one person who cares, like you, can make a big difference in the life of someone, like me. :)
The story is the same with me. The schools tried moving me from public school to the resource classes. my Family threatened to take the school to court. Eventually, I stayed in public school, and other parents joined in with their kids.
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That is why I do not support Special Education, the problem is that some of them do not actually teach. and it creates an "institution to institution lifestyle" which is not the right thing to do. (In my opinion)
As mentioned, I would find a way to do away with them, while looking into more effective educational systems. One thing would probably investing more into Trade Schools. (which were projected to overtake public school, I'll have to look at newer sources into this as this study is a bit dated). To teach trades to these students that would help them.
(but this is more from my "Businessman in Training" perspective.)
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As I type this, I noticed you did a follow-up journal to this. I'll check it out when I'm not busy.
***
As for my accuracy in perception. It is something good to learn.
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Don't worry much about the "dark story line". Though I think there can be a counterbalance to some of the darkness. Even if it is minute.
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That is why I do not support Special Education, the problem is that some of them do not actually teach. and it creates an "institution to institution lifestyle" which is not the right thing to do. (In my opinion)
As mentioned, I would find a way to do away with them, while looking into more effective educational systems. One thing would probably investing more into Trade Schools. (which were projected to overtake public school, I'll have to look at newer sources into this as this study is a bit dated). To teach trades to these students that would help them.
(but this is more from my "Businessman in Training" perspective.)
***
As I type this, I noticed you did a follow-up journal to this. I'll check it out when I'm not busy.
***
As for my accuracy in perception. It is something good to learn.
****
Don't worry much about the "dark story line". Though I think there can be a counterbalance to some of the darkness. Even if it is minute.
Well, as you likely did notice, I do have a way to already 'repair' the oh-too-dark concept I developed as my life's experiences have shown me. It doesn't need to be so dark for a lovable lil' birdie like Phoebe. :)
So, with the voice and actions of Jay from "Birdz", I will be updating some details about Phoebe and her life. All are to improve her overall childhood while granting more time to connect off-and-on with Yosh.
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And, as a fellow MBA, you and I are on the same page when it comes to those who society may not properly diagnose, or even try to work with.
There are people who really and truly cannot do a job of any sort. However, if more effort was put into enabling the 'disabled', I am sure you'd find a notable percentage could be given jobs that make them feel 'involved', allow them to build 'self-esteem' and 'independence', and help society see that those they try to 'hide' are a part of the same world as they are and, surprise!, we can do important jobs, too! :)
So, with the voice and actions of Jay from "Birdz", I will be updating some details about Phoebe and her life. All are to improve her overall childhood while granting more time to connect off-and-on with Yosh.
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And, as a fellow MBA, you and I are on the same page when it comes to those who society may not properly diagnose, or even try to work with.
There are people who really and truly cannot do a job of any sort. However, if more effort was put into enabling the 'disabled', I am sure you'd find a notable percentage could be given jobs that make them feel 'involved', allow them to build 'self-esteem' and 'independence', and help society see that those they try to 'hide' are a part of the same world as they are and, surprise!, we can do important jobs, too! :)
Very detailed. A little darker than I was expecting but characters and stories can be used to explore all sorts of ideas, and there's some potential here, so I'd love to see more developments. The idea that Phoebe VOgelsong (I LOVE that name) being the only other hybrid besides his sister could be interesting to see too!
The one choice of words near the end, though "wheelchair prison" was... I know the 3rd person description is supposed to be relating little Yosh's POV (I mean, I think it is?) but even then you generally don't want to suggest a wheelchair user is somehow, like, trapped by it?
It's nice to see you make an OC to compliment your own OCs!
The one choice of words near the end, though "wheelchair prison" was... I know the 3rd person description is supposed to be relating little Yosh's POV (I mean, I think it is?) but even then you generally don't want to suggest a wheelchair user is somehow, like, trapped by it?
It's nice to see you make an OC to compliment your own OCs!
Well, truly, you have Lanny to thank for helping me to wish to flesh one out.
And, for the descriptor, I was in 'Yosh Space'. This story, once lanny got me going, built itself up super-ultra-mega fast.
Why such a dark story? It was kind of like a 'personal challenge' to see what it would be like if someone, like my sister and I, did not have parents who 'fought' for us to be all we could be. They did not 'perceive' our limitations from birth as much as challenged us to discover what our real limits, if any, were at.
With Phoebe, her parents are what, given what I have learned from stories given to me by so many other people with visual limitations, along with other limitations from birth, I imagine going through life feeling truly 'trapped' in a body that, despite the known 'malfunctions', there is far more going on inside the brain than a test of motor and verbal skills can grant.
So, for Phoebe, it is like a 'restrictor'. Her parents did not want to, nor could think of doing, what my dad did for me. This was, in 2nd grade, they wanted to toss me into 'Life Skills'. What saved me? My father stepped up and said, "You're not challenging him! He is smart but wouldn't you get bored tossing a bean bag around over-and-over again?"
I was passed to 3rd grade, 4th grade, 5th grade, and, well, you get the picture.
Writing Phoebe is a way for me to go down the path of "What could have happened?". As you can see, Yosh, being a personification of myself, does not feel she should be 'held back' because nobody wants to take the time to learn how to 'empower her'.
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The overall story arc for Phoebe is that, over finding each other again-and-again, Yosh eventually has her live with him after Tina Bear leaves. He knows that she knows that she is more than what she was lead to believe. So, in later life, Yosh and Phoebe become apartment friends who support each other. (The non-pony Yosh gets a very weak bladder as time passes into adulthood and Phoebe, having not ever been encouraged to see how much 'control' she had, does appreciate Yosh for helping her improve on not making messes while seeing a world of possibility for the first time.)
No marriage, no dating, just two kindred spirits living their lives together without fear of anyone misunderstanding, mistreating, or misrepresenting them either again.
More simply, this character will be Yosh's 'Happily Ever after'. :)
And, for the descriptor, I was in 'Yosh Space'. This story, once lanny got me going, built itself up super-ultra-mega fast.
Why such a dark story? It was kind of like a 'personal challenge' to see what it would be like if someone, like my sister and I, did not have parents who 'fought' for us to be all we could be. They did not 'perceive' our limitations from birth as much as challenged us to discover what our real limits, if any, were at.
With Phoebe, her parents are what, given what I have learned from stories given to me by so many other people with visual limitations, along with other limitations from birth, I imagine going through life feeling truly 'trapped' in a body that, despite the known 'malfunctions', there is far more going on inside the brain than a test of motor and verbal skills can grant.
So, for Phoebe, it is like a 'restrictor'. Her parents did not want to, nor could think of doing, what my dad did for me. This was, in 2nd grade, they wanted to toss me into 'Life Skills'. What saved me? My father stepped up and said, "You're not challenging him! He is smart but wouldn't you get bored tossing a bean bag around over-and-over again?"
I was passed to 3rd grade, 4th grade, 5th grade, and, well, you get the picture.
Writing Phoebe is a way for me to go down the path of "What could have happened?". As you can see, Yosh, being a personification of myself, does not feel she should be 'held back' because nobody wants to take the time to learn how to 'empower her'.
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The overall story arc for Phoebe is that, over finding each other again-and-again, Yosh eventually has her live with him after Tina Bear leaves. He knows that she knows that she is more than what she was lead to believe. So, in later life, Yosh and Phoebe become apartment friends who support each other. (The non-pony Yosh gets a very weak bladder as time passes into adulthood and Phoebe, having not ever been encouraged to see how much 'control' she had, does appreciate Yosh for helping her improve on not making messes while seeing a world of possibility for the first time.)
No marriage, no dating, just two kindred spirits living their lives together without fear of anyone misunderstanding, mistreating, or misrepresenting them either again.
More simply, this character will be Yosh's 'Happily Ever after'. :)
Oh neato! I remember ya wanting to make a character, and one that Yosh can look after a bit and help and feel tied to sounds neat. (: There aren't many characters out there with these kinda issues, so it's good to have a bit more of that out there. And better to have it come from someone that knows about it!
I think from here, I'd be curious about her personality a bit more, or seein' more conversations and interactions with her and Yosh. I might've missed something, so only if she's able! She could be the quiet type. Either way, good job with more birdies!
I think from here, I'd be curious about her personality a bit more, or seein' more conversations and interactions with her and Yosh. I might've missed something, so only if she's able! She could be the quiet type. Either way, good job with more birdies!
Oh, she is definitely able to talk and interact with Yosh. The fun part of the tale is showing how Yosh, being one who knows what it is like to be mistreated for being 'different' takes time to figure out what she needs to be able to talk.
There's a character named 'Jay' in the show "Birdz" who I see her voice most resembling. She appears in episode 4 and that episode is one where, due to the main character desperate to go out on a date with his robin girlfriend, brings along his turkey pal, Tommy. Turkeys can't really fly so he uses a 'balloon' to support himself while in flight.
Jay takes a liking to him, as she is the cousin of Spring Robin. Our main character, Eddie, tries very hard to defend his friend in his need of the balloon. However things get to where Eddie, along with the rest of the class, push him to fly without the balloon and, well, he gets injured enough to be out of school for a bit.
The notable thing is that Eddie feels awful for being a bad friend and, when Jay comes to Tommy's home to talk to him, she tells him she'd like to go out with him again with 'one condition'. Tommy thinks it is to not have his balloon. However she tells him to not forget his balloon as she cares about him and not what he requires to fly in a world of birds.
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This episode has left a lasting mark on me as Eddie isn't all-out mean to Tommy for the balloon. However the pressure he gets during the episode pushes him to make a bad choice to push his pal to do something not in anyone's interest beyond himself.
With Phoebe being in initial development, I am going to try and scale back some of the 'dark' about her past. I don't like knowing I'm bringing a character of mine any degree of 'suffering' and, well, life experience has showed me this sort of thing does happen. However, I will not make it happen so harshly to Phoebe.
However, if you ever can spare a few minutes on YouTube, check out "Birdz English Episode 04" and you can hear how Phoebe sounds when she talks. I don't know if Jay has a particular condition, but the voice reminds me of someone who had a slow, or stalled, development in speech.
*Snugs* thanks for reading and commenting. :)
There's a character named 'Jay' in the show "Birdz" who I see her voice most resembling. She appears in episode 4 and that episode is one where, due to the main character desperate to go out on a date with his robin girlfriend, brings along his turkey pal, Tommy. Turkeys can't really fly so he uses a 'balloon' to support himself while in flight.
Jay takes a liking to him, as she is the cousin of Spring Robin. Our main character, Eddie, tries very hard to defend his friend in his need of the balloon. However things get to where Eddie, along with the rest of the class, push him to fly without the balloon and, well, he gets injured enough to be out of school for a bit.
The notable thing is that Eddie feels awful for being a bad friend and, when Jay comes to Tommy's home to talk to him, she tells him she'd like to go out with him again with 'one condition'. Tommy thinks it is to not have his balloon. However she tells him to not forget his balloon as she cares about him and not what he requires to fly in a world of birds.
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This episode has left a lasting mark on me as Eddie isn't all-out mean to Tommy for the balloon. However the pressure he gets during the episode pushes him to make a bad choice to push his pal to do something not in anyone's interest beyond himself.
With Phoebe being in initial development, I am going to try and scale back some of the 'dark' about her past. I don't like knowing I'm bringing a character of mine any degree of 'suffering' and, well, life experience has showed me this sort of thing does happen. However, I will not make it happen so harshly to Phoebe.
However, if you ever can spare a few minutes on YouTube, check out "Birdz English Episode 04" and you can hear how Phoebe sounds when she talks. I don't know if Jay has a particular condition, but the voice reminds me of someone who had a slow, or stalled, development in speech.
*Snugs* thanks for reading and commenting. :)
Haha aw Jay sounds cute! In most the episode she just has little lines and doesn't quite seem to talk in full correct sentences, except sorta at the very end! She looks cute and shy, and pretty too with a mint bow on top of her head! Some kids just talk kinda different and grow at different paces, I suppose? Haha even as a kid I noticed kids in shows talked like an adult was writing them. It's nice to see a mix of that, and actual kid talk. One of my nephews is actually kinda like that too - I think he's getting to second or third grade, but still hasn't really gotten to the same social level as others his age? I dunno, but it's definitely best having variety in media so people know to still treat everyone like a person, however they sound, whatever they do, etc.! Hehe hopefully I said all that right enough, anyway.
Yep, yep, yep! You got it right. :)
There's another aspect to Phoebe that will be added, too. This being how she keeps the bow in her hair / feathers throughout her life. The reason being as, for each time Yosh finds her, he recognizes the bow first. She wears it in hopes he'll find her again to help get it across that she's more advanced and capable than "Status Quo" belief on what defines 'growth' and ability.
I wish I could have seen Jay in "Birdz". Though I bet she looks kind of cute and nerdy. Unlike her cousin, Spring, she isn't really caring about what is, or is not, socially acceptable and just enjoying the opportunity to go out and have some fun.
Perhaps, and this is a guess by me entirely, Jay doesn't get out much and is told she is going to the theme park with her cousin, Spring. Spring, feeling Jay is a massive third wheel, insists Eddie find somebirdy else as a 'distraction' and Eddie chooses Tommy as he knows Tommy is, of his friends, the most appealing. (Greggory Woodpecker is one of those over-the-top types while being very shy in large social settings. Sleepy Bat is, well, forced to be awake during the day for school and is prone to living up to his name until after dark.)
I'm just glad for jay as, in the least, I now have a 'ref' to best describe Phoebe outside of being the "What if....?" scenario of parents, family, and professional medicine failing to work beyond the boundaries of the textbook way things should work.
There's another aspect to Phoebe that will be added, too. This being how she keeps the bow in her hair / feathers throughout her life. The reason being as, for each time Yosh finds her, he recognizes the bow first. She wears it in hopes he'll find her again to help get it across that she's more advanced and capable than "Status Quo" belief on what defines 'growth' and ability.
I wish I could have seen Jay in "Birdz". Though I bet she looks kind of cute and nerdy. Unlike her cousin, Spring, she isn't really caring about what is, or is not, socially acceptable and just enjoying the opportunity to go out and have some fun.
Perhaps, and this is a guess by me entirely, Jay doesn't get out much and is told she is going to the theme park with her cousin, Spring. Spring, feeling Jay is a massive third wheel, insists Eddie find somebirdy else as a 'distraction' and Eddie chooses Tommy as he knows Tommy is, of his friends, the most appealing. (Greggory Woodpecker is one of those over-the-top types while being very shy in large social settings. Sleepy Bat is, well, forced to be awake during the day for school and is prone to living up to his name until after dark.)
I'm just glad for jay as, in the least, I now have a 'ref' to best describe Phoebe outside of being the "What if....?" scenario of parents, family, and professional medicine failing to work beyond the boundaries of the textbook way things should work.
I got a lil description of Jay for ya!
She's a light-purple bird, with a long light-purple beak, and sorta-dark turquoise legs/talons. She's kinda average height and size, slightly on the skinny side. She has little golden rings around her wrists, and one around her right ankle. She wears a simple white-collared t-shirt, and a skirt that's sorta got a pattern on it - it looks like a lighter turquoise skirt but the top half is purple, and it looks like either the purple color is dripping down, or like it's green wavy hills, or something kind of curvy separating the colors. She also wears a little golden necklace with a small watch on the end of it. She has yellow eyes with small black pupils, a few eyelashes, light pink hair (slightly on the purpler side) and a light-turquoise... bow tied around her head, between her hair and feathers. The bow part is kind of small and rectangular and is about equal with the ends of both of her circular eyes. She also has like three cute lil feathers behind her butt.
She's a light-purple bird, with a long light-purple beak, and sorta-dark turquoise legs/talons. She's kinda average height and size, slightly on the skinny side. She has little golden rings around her wrists, and one around her right ankle. She wears a simple white-collared t-shirt, and a skirt that's sorta got a pattern on it - it looks like a lighter turquoise skirt but the top half is purple, and it looks like either the purple color is dripping down, or like it's green wavy hills, or something kind of curvy separating the colors. She also wears a little golden necklace with a small watch on the end of it. She has yellow eyes with small black pupils, a few eyelashes, light pink hair (slightly on the purpler side) and a light-turquoise... bow tied around her head, between her hair and feathers. The bow part is kind of small and rectangular and is about equal with the ends of both of her circular eyes. She also has like three cute lil feathers behind her butt.
*Snugs* Oh, thank you, thank you, than-Q, Oxnard! I always saw her as being blue with a black beak, white t-shirt, and no other accessories.
From what I do get to know of the character designs, I do firmly believe a lot of effort was put into the show. It only ever got to air its 13 episodes 'once' on CBS and, truly, it is as sad as how Hamtaro was cut short here in the states. :(
1998 was certainly a big year for a lot of things. We got "Yoshi's Story", "Ocarina Of Time", "Pokémon" and lost treasures, like "Birdz". :)
From what I do get to know of the character designs, I do firmly believe a lot of effort was put into the show. It only ever got to air its 13 episodes 'once' on CBS and, truly, it is as sad as how Hamtaro was cut short here in the states. :(
1998 was certainly a big year for a lot of things. We got "Yoshi's Story", "Ocarina Of Time", "Pokémon" and lost treasures, like "Birdz". :)
I noticed the “Birdz” references. As for Phoebe, I was thinking that Yosh remains a beacon of hope and inspiration for her. She grows increasingly rebellious, and some people start to see that she’s acting like any other troubled person. More people start calling out the child abuse for what it is.
Maybe at one point, she befriends a school bully, who gives her a sense of power she never had before. It might be a she-bully who acts like a jealous girlfriend. I thought, she should develop a strong sense of agency but have to learn not to forget about friendship in the process.
Maybe at one point, she befriends a school bully, who gives her a sense of power she never had before. It might be a she-bully who acts like a jealous girlfriend. I thought, she should develop a strong sense of agency but have to learn not to forget about friendship in the process.
<LoL!> You figured me out! Yep, yep, yep! "Birdz" has been such an ongoing inspiration for me, as I rewatch it over-and-over almost nightly in my sleep, and it just felt right to bring some aspects of the show into it.
The relationship to 'Mick The stork', now 'Dr. Mick Storkawits', is much like how, unbelievably, my dentist was related to my retina doctor! They lived about 200 miles apart, too!
As this is 'Version 0.1' for Phoebe, and I've been told how very dark it is, I may modify the tale to be a tad bit more 'gentle'. I can be 'dark', but I don't want to ever make a character seem like they are suffering beyond what is necessary to create a tale of how misunderstood those with special needs / birth defects can go through when improper advice is followed without trying to find ways, as parents, to the key to unlocking their child's true potential.
The relationship to 'Mick The stork', now 'Dr. Mick Storkawits', is much like how, unbelievably, my dentist was related to my retina doctor! They lived about 200 miles apart, too!
As this is 'Version 0.1' for Phoebe, and I've been told how very dark it is, I may modify the tale to be a tad bit more 'gentle'. I can be 'dark', but I don't want to ever make a character seem like they are suffering beyond what is necessary to create a tale of how misunderstood those with special needs / birth defects can go through when improper advice is followed without trying to find ways, as parents, to the key to unlocking their child's true potential.
It depends on the intended audience. I feel we should expose some of the true evils done in the name of caring for the handicapped. By the way, you may have heard of electroshock therapy on autistic people. Saphy’s own story about Fallen Angel is surprisingly dark. I believe that dark themes must be confronted to bring out the true light. And that is the key: We’re not to get into darkness in order to wallow in it, but to bring brightness everywhere.
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