I got good news. The gum you like will come back in style

Oder auf Deutsch: "Deine Lieblingsfernsehsendung kommt bald wieder zurück!" Warum auch immer. o.o

haha jepp! Naja ich hab die DVDs nur auf englisch geschaut. Ich mochte die Synchro irgendwie nicht

Joah, ich weiss das noch von der RTL/Tele 5-Ausstrahlung. Bevor es die DVDs gab, habe ich noch von meinen uralten VHS-Kassetten gelebt. :D

And there's always music in the air.

"i see you again in 25 years"

Black as midnight on a moonless night.

[also, this made my day.]

Whoops, apparently must have missed this comment. <.< Anyway, hope the day from two months ago continued to be awesome. :3

It did; you made my month. ^.=.^

This is so awesome

Dude, I love you for drawing this. Plus, Angelo Badalamenti is amazing, I've only heard his Twin Peaks work but it's entrancing! The themesong has stuck with me since I first heard it back in like '92.

I've heard the OSTs from the show and the movie so many times since then that I can play them at will in my head from memory. *g* The soundtracks he did for the other Lynch-movie are great too, btw. And the two albums he did with Julee Cruise.

I recently imported 'Fire Walk with Me' on Bluray from France. Did you know David Lynch had a role in the recent season of the show 'Louis CK'? He played a cantankerous TV show producer.

There's a boxed set that's out of print called 'The Lime Green Box' and though it is overpriced and replicates most of what you probably already have, it has almost 2 hours of deleted scenes from 'Wild at Heart', the entire 'Rabbits' series, 'Industrial Symphony #1' with Julee Cruise performing a Lynch live show on stage (most of what's on her two albums with Badalamenti), 'Hotel Room', and most of the rest of his online stuff that didn't make it to the 'Dynamic 1' set.

You'll probably think I'm crazy, but I saw 'Inland Empire' 3 times at the Main Art theater when it first came out. It was out the same time the 3 hour 'Grindhouse' was released in theaters, and I chose that over seeing 'Grindhouse' again. It's kind of like a 3-hour 'Un Chien Andalou', and believe it or not, the yucky DV aesthetic actually looked better in theaters, with it's intensely heavy grain levels, than on video, which is simply a direct digital transfer of the DV files. I'd like him to attempt something like it again with better cameras myself, maybe shoot it with a Red One HD cam?

Lastly, I...met David Lynch. It was briefly at U of M in Ann Arbor, MI some years back when he was giving a talk about transcendental meditation. It was both interesting to finally hear him speak in person, and a little annoying how he tried to curve every question back towards discussing meditation (he was accompanied by a doctor from that movie 'What the Bleep Do We Know?'). Afterwards, I ran up to the stage with my 'Eraserhead' DVD from his website, and got a signature from him! I laminated the signature to protect it, but now I have that memoir for whenever I feel like watching 'Eraserhead' again :P

I didn't know of that box set before and was almost tempted to hunt it down so it could find a place on my shelves... but then I saw the price. 180$ is a bit too big for my pockets (import costs not even added! D: ), and it's "only" DVD anyway. Since I own a blu-ray player I somewhat lost interest in that format. ^^'' The collection of "Wild at Heart" scenes sounds intriguing, however. I always assumed that they didn't exist anymore because the SE DVD that I have shied away from showing any of them. Is that infamous Grace Zabriskie/Harry Dean Stanton-scene among them?

I saw "Inland Empire" at the cinema too back then. It had a couple great scenes that were hilarious and/or extremely scary, overall I found it to be very exhausting to watch, though. I saw it a second time on DVD shortly before I posted this picture, thinking I'd be able to get into more... but found it even harder to get through than the first time. Actually, I even turned it off halfway through when that embarressing scene with the hookers discussing "Tits, tits, tits!" came along. X3

Awesome that you met him once in person, though. :D Was he a bit reluctant to sign the DVD... or did he do it right away?

Anyway, that one ("Eraserhead"), "Lost Highway" and "Twin Peaks" are my favourite works of him. :)

The infamous deleted scene of Grace Zabriskie having sex over Harry Dean Stanton's dead body isn't on that set, and probably will remain unseen since it provoked such a strong reaction at Cannes. The scene of Willem Dafoe blowing off his own head with a shotgun is still censored in some territories, but I think the French BD is uncut.

There's a Blu-ray for "Inland Empire" in the UK, believe it or not. Other than HD sound, I don't know how that film would benefit from HD.

As for Lynch signing my DVD, he signed it right away. There were other fans glomping him with things to sign, and it was evident he was trying to escape, but I grabbed it in time. Grabbed one from Spike Lee months later too when he showed up at my college for a speech on Martin Luther King.

DVD isn't totally dead for me yet. There are still a lot of things that won't come out on BD, like Ken Russell's "The Devils". The studio behind it, Warner Brothers, hates it with a passion and refused to distribute it on BD, but at least they allowed a DVD release.

the german DVD that i have still has the head shot scene in all it's silly goryness ^^ Thou i've heard the second DVD issue was censored.

By the way, The Blu Ray of INLAND EMPIRE was possible because the DV Cam material got blown up and ended on a HD-CAM Master tape which also was the source for the 35mm prints and probably for some digital projections. I must say that i loved the DV look. As a matter of fact it is one of my most favourite films who got shot on SD digital video because David Lynch found a much more pleasing cinematography (even better than the DV flicks of Lars von Trier) and you can see how free he could work because he didn't had to wait for the light people, lighting everything due to the light sensitive image sensors of his PD-150 camcorder. I only have the DVD of INLAND EMPIRE and nobody wanted to go with me to the theater when it was out :( And i didn't want to go alone. The movie itself blew me away. And i haven't ever felt more like "home" like in that movie :)

I bet if he had shot on a PAL DV the image quality would have been a lot better due to more TV lines and better colors.


And yes, studios are fucking pricks. Especially Warner!!

ugh... forgot to add something to one sentence at "... found a much more pleasing cinematography.." it should have been : " ....found a much more pleasing cinematography than many other film makers who shoot digital". It makes more sense now ^^

I've heard that too. Honestly, it's one of those situations where I'm not sure whether or not the uncensored head shot makes that much of a difference over Lynch's censorship of the scene. It's still just as over the top, but Lynch found a way to do it without pissing off the MPAA, and other directors have since copied Lynch's self-censorship (Takashi Miike in particular, who said he was inspired by Lynch's censorship of his own images).

I do remember 'Inland Empire' in 35mm. The biggest differences between the DVD and the 35mm print involved the grain levels, which were really rich in the nighttime scenes and the scenes involving the color blue. The frame rate seemed smoother than the current DVD, and if the Blu-Ray of 'Inland Empire' improves the frame rate I may upgrade on that stipulation alone. The sound in the theater was almost deafening. Amazingly, with the subsequent 2 theatrical viewings I had after my initial lone viewing, I was able to get people to go with me both times, and they were of course David Lynch fans who already admitted to wanting to see it (one of whom, like me, dared to see it a 2nd time). LVT's DV flicks look ugly, and I suppose that's intentional, particularly with 'Dancer in the Dark', which alternated between ugly DV and slightly less ugly looking DV for the musical numbers. I realize Lynch was free to shoot whatever came to mind when he acquired the PD-150, and I will say it's the best looking DV film I've seen outside of Takashi Miike's 'Visitor Q', which had a really unique color palette. Still, I wanna see him do something lush again.

I love Warner and I hate them also. They've released many of my favorite films of all time, and continue to produce elite special editions with stellar transfers. But sometimes they just fuck up in ways that baffle me. I hate their treatment of 'The Fountain', which skimps on extras (Darren Aronofsky claims to have an armada of extras they refused to include, and they refused a commentary which he recorded and released online himself later) and was rather mis-marketed. Then there's the whole 'Exorcist 4' debacle where they commissioned Paul Schrader to direct 'Dominion' and then scrapped his film after determining it wasn't scary but more cerebral, and thus reshot the film as 'Exorcist: The Beginning' from scratch with 'Deep Blue Sea' director Renny Harlin helming. After it lost money, they reluctantly released an unfinished version of 'Dominion' on DVD to scathing reviews due to it's lack of effort to wrap it up in any digestible way. That doesn't compare to their treatment of 'The Devils' though. Yes it caused them a great deal of consternation and upset when it came out in 1971, but they also released 'A Clockwork Orange' that same year and made tons of money off of it. People have clearly expressed their love for 'The Devils' and yet Warners, nearly 40 years later, still turns their back to it. Their antipathy towards it is both illogical and irrational, and represents an old, broken sensibility within the studio that must be brought down.

yeah it's the same to me too.. Warner.. like a hate/love... considering the fact that most of my DVD and Blu Ray collection are Warner titles... it still pisses me off how they treat the films and especially the soundtracks.. like putting original Mono or Stereo mixes only in dolby digital with a lousy 192 kbit/s on the discs but the pointless 5.1 or 7.1 remixes in DTS-HD..
Since i live in germany almost all of the movies we're get are dubbed and some studios like Warner, Paramount or particular Universal are sometimes changing the dubs for older movies. Usually because the old dubs were recorder in Mono or Stereo or Dolby Surround and they think people would not buy the releases if it's not 5.1 ot 7.1.... So they re-record the dubs with completely new voice actors and that ruins movies like "jaws" for many many people, including my mom who was seriously pissed off when she bought the DVD release a few years ago. They gave us the choice with the Blu ray Release that contains now both dubs and of course the original soundtrack as well. I usually watch the movies in their original language and if it's not english i'll add subtitles.

Warner has come a strange way.,.. They wouldn't make or produce films like "Zabriskie Point" today anymore...

I doubt that the Blu Ray will have a smoother framerate since it's video that comes with all it's limitations. 23,997 dropped frames instead of real 24 frames per second on 35mm. If it would be a European production everything would have been 25 fps. The original 35mm shots, the digital intermediate, the final master and of course the Broadcast masters and the Home Theater releases. But of course it would be 24 fps as well at the theaters because i hardly believe there's 25fps projections of 35mm reels. This is why people here think the image quality is better on video, because it's slightly smoother. But i actually could not care less. lol
There have been some Blu Ray releases that were 25fps but people in NTSC regions were complaining because they could not play the discs. I think "Nordwand" (Northface) was one of those films. But i'm not sure.

Yes, "Dancing in the dark" has a shakey DV cinematography that fits. I still cry like hell everytime i see that film :<

I really LOVE the look of Video on 35mm film or video on film in general. There is something happening with the image. Once electronic becoming photochemical. The filmstock gives it grain and makes videonoise look completely different. People might hate me for saying that but i also like "Blair Witch project". Because it was analog Hi8 Video on 35mm. It could have look better but it was of course due to the nature of the film heavily altered to make it look old and degraded. Even the 16mm shots. I have a few Super 8 cameras and i've been experimenting with that a bit, shooting a few video scenes that i have prepared, from my LCD screen that has a pure white LED backlight for optimal results (even with a daylight filmstock) and i kinda use it like that as an optical printer. Who knows.. someday.. it'll be 16mm or even 35mm :D Thou 35mm usually with a SLR camera. hehe. :P

Consider yourself lucky seeing INLAND EMPIRE at the theater. I'd so much been there too. And the soundtrack was sooo awesome too :D That movie is an esperience.
The selfcensorship on the other side is what pisses me off on him. He did that with "Mulholland Drive" too. Thou i must say it's the only Lynch movie that i don't like at all. :o

I LOVE 'Zabriskie Point'! Michelangelo Antonioni was one of the greatest directors of all time! The finale to 'Zabriskie Point' is an out of body experience. I checked online and in actuality, MGM commissioned 3 pictures from Antonioni, and they were 'Blow-Up', 'Zabriskie Point' and 'The Passenger' (which Sony Pictures currently retains the rights to). I think Warner is distributing them now, as they acquired a wealth of MGM's back catalog titles.

I'm with you on preferring the original mono mixes, although I have a few uncompressed PCM mono discs and they don't amount to a very high bitrate in the longrun. I don't care for 'The Version You've Never Seen' of "The Exorcist", not only for it's unnecessary additions to the film's running time, but particularly the re-recorded sound effects. The original 1973 'Exorcist' still is one of the best sounding films ever produced in the world, and it did not need to be changed in any way. As for 7.1 audio, since I upgraded to 7.1 HD, I can't tell the differences. I'm sure the spatial arrangement is there, and granted 'Jaws' had a couple effects of the shark ramming his nose into the boat coming directly behind the listener, but otherwise it's not that different from 5.1 audio. I'm a purist and rarely enjoy sound upgrades unless it's keeping with the original mono stems. I will say HD audio is a nice upgrade, and it shines in some films over others.


I still cry everytime I see 'Dancer in the Dark' too and I don't know why. I know full well LVT is manipulating me and relying on classical melodrama from older films and he pushes the melodrama beyond the point of realism while filming it as realism, and yet it just has this weird effect on me where I just wanna start weeping. 'Antichrist' had a couple of moments that came close, but mostly my reaction to that film was a mixture of shock and awe at the film's lush visuals. That still might be my favorite LVT picture.

I think the only time I heard about BD frame rates involved Gaspar Noe and his film 'Enter the Void', which he stated during the theatrical release that he would prefer if projectionists played it at 25fps instead of the usual 24fps or 29fps in PAL. I believe the BD reflects his intended frame rate. My all-region BD player plays everything pretty well, and does a much better job with PAL to NTSC conversion than my last all-region DVD player.

I'm a fan of 'The Blair Witch Project' and saw it a few times at the theater when it came out. It was projected theatrically in 1.33:1 academy ratio, which I still don't entirely get as it could've been hardmatted into 1.85:1, but whatever. It's still an enjoyable little creepout for me, even if people give it flak for the behavior of the kids involved. Some of the 16mm shots in that film are really haunting though.

I sort of had my ears perked for a while as to where and when 'INLAND EMPIRE' would be playing, as Lynch was touring the film himself and his company Absurda struck their own 35mm prints for theatrical exhibition. It simply appeared on the Main Art Theater schedule, and as soon as I saw it was playing there moments later I drove out to the theater to see it. It was a packed house and I sat relatively close to the screen.

...you really didn't like 'Mulholland Drive'? That's one of his glossiest and prettiest films, and for me the most autobiographical concerning Lynch's experiences working in Hollywood. The whole "this is the girl" argument at the film studio is Lynch satirizing his 'Dune' experience with Universal Studios. Incidentally, 'Dune' was made around the same time as Terry Gilliam was making 'Brazil', so Universal sort of became known as the studio that really duked it out with filmmakers concerning final cut (although to be fair, Lynch relinquished final cut willingly and found out the hard way later what a bad idea it was). I dunno, to me 'Mulholland Drive' was sublime. I like everything of Lynch's though (save for 'Dune', I really don't like that film).

Maybe i need to watch it again ^^ And i like Dune :P But ONLY the theatrical cut and not the hideous extended TV cut "by Allan Smithee" ;) Too bad the publishing rights for "Dune" are spread over many companies in germany. Many smaller Labels like Astro or Marketing Film have released their own releases. None of them are really outstanding. They even released a pseudo 3D version....
That's with many other films as well. Many Paramount pictures releases are published by other companies like Concord or Koch media. Yes, Warner has a lot of old MGM backcatalog titles now, like "the wizzard of oz" or "2001" and "2010". But i still prefer the new MGM own releases like "The Terminator" with it's true colors now (still no Mono mix . ) and "Bill & Ted's excellent adventure".

The reason why we both cry at "Dancing in the dark" is ... Lars von Trier.. literally killed Bambi in that movie :(
But i like the depressing hopeless world he creates. Especially in his latest masterpiece "Melancholia". It was shot in 25p... but the Blu Ray ended up being 24p. That pissed me off a lot. I think "Antichrist" was a 25p Blu Ray. Both are currently my favorite von Triers :)

I suppose if Mulholland Drive should have been a TV series but ended up as a Pilot with a closed ending. I would give the movie another chance

David Lynch disowned 'Dune'. When I met him at his Q&A about transcendental meditation, people kept asking him about 'Dune', much to his chagrin, groaning "yeah, I didn't have a good experience on Dune because I didn't have final cut". He's even more vehement about his distaste for 'Dune' in his book 'Catching the Big Fish': "the end result is not what I wanted, and that is a sadness".

Hrrr...fuck 3D. Other than perhaps seeing some of the 1950s 3D pictures, Alfred Hitchcock's 'Dial M for Murder', and Paul Morrissey's "Flesh for Frankenstein", 3D is a pretty cheap excuse for jacking the ticket prices up in my opinion. I saw James Cameron's 'Avatar' in 3D and found it tolerable, and when the 3D was gone on a secondary viewing it was intolerable. 'Jackass 3D', while mildly more invasive in 3D, is still Jackass at the end of the day, whether you like those John Waters wannabees or not.

There's a company in the US named 'Olive Films' which is releasing many, many Paramount back-catalog titles on Blu-Ray. Warner Brothers is doing this thing called 'Warner Archive' where they've released many of their back catalog titles from all ages, and I bought a few myself (mostly Ken Russell titles). However, they are DVD-R discs and are wonky on some players. I own 'The Terminator' on Blu-Ray and it comes with the mono track as well as the 5.1 remix.

I'd recommend investing in an all-region BD player. I paid...let's see, about $175 for mine. It's out of circulation, but there might still be a few floating around on ebay and such. http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/hardw.....su_bdp-899.htm The review refers to a Momitsu player, but it's the same as my model, the Sherwood BDP-5004. It's a little bit noisy when playing BDs, but overall it plays everything I own. I had to set a couple of codes to get it to work, but I've been able to import anything. By the way, www.dvdbeaver.com is the most comprehensive website on DVD/BD discs from around the world, even comparing international releases side-by-side. I sincerely recommend you dabble into their site, for it's hard to stop once you begin.

'Melancholia' and 'Antichrist' seem to be companion pieces in large ways. They maintain the same visual sense, both open in slow motion with epic visual effects of apocalypse on Earth and classical music, and both star Charlotte Gainsbourg losing it at some point or another I think I prefer 'Antichrist' for it's brevity and immediacy, but both are wonderful for their own reasons. 'Dancer in the Dark' isn't a film I watch very often as I find it very draining emotionally, particularly when the escapist musical numbers only amplify the croaking melancholy. 'Antichrist' on the other hand I could watch at almost any time, for I regard that film with the same sense of visual awe and splendor that I would with, say, '2001: A Space Odyssey' or 'The Fountain'.

The pilot for 'Mulholland Drive' in it's original form ended up on youtube, and some scenes were recut or trimmed into what they currently are. That's one of my few BD imports, actually. I wound up getting the Studio Canal disc from France (it's in the UK also). I am, however, eyeing up the German 'Lost Highway' BD, as the French BD costs an arm and a leg. As for 'Mulholland Drive', as it is, it's one of his most artistically successful films in that it both maintains his abstract surrealist narrative with dopplegangers and past experiences recalled the way the protagonist wants to remember things, and it speaks freely of Lynch's personal problems with marraige (that he douses his wife's jewelry in paint reflect's Lynch's past with one of his first wives and how she probably reacted to him painting their house black twice for the short films 'The Alphabet' and 'The Grandmother') and of course the inner workings of the Hollywood system. I was a little surprised he visited Hollywood again with 'Inland Empire', which in the end gave me a clearer understanding of what it means to really 'go places' with an actor.

yeah and "Eraserhead" can be seen as an interpetation about his scares of fatherhood. I think he visited Hollywood with INLAND EMPIRE beacause he still lives there in LA and Laura Dern was moving near his home when he started working on ideas for the movie.

I know the site DVD beaver and Blu beaver for a long time now. Came to it because my bets buddy showed it to me. It has been my trustworthy friend over the years for checking out screencaps, bitrate informations and comparisons between versions. Love the site so much!

My current Blu Ray player is a PS3 Slim and it does a fine job so far. I have no imported Blu Rays yet but i'm very interested on the US version of Stanley Kubrick's "The Shining" because it has a few more scenes than the European cut. I'm curious and i'd so much like to see these extra scenes because both versions US and EU are his directors cuts. So i can watch it knowing it is approved ;)

I'd love to see the extended ending scene that only played in the first week of the US release and has been cut out of it ever since... but from what I've heard it doesn't exist anymore. :( Which is a bit of shame, from the description it seems to be pretty interesting.

Either way, I'm looking forward to the first official release of "Fear and Desire"! It's already out on BluRay in the US on Kino... and there's going to be a UK release in January next year in the Masters of Cinema series.

Agreed on "Fear and Desire". Been wanting to see that for some time. I actually still have yet to see "Killer's Kiss", which is included on the US Criterion BD for "The Killing".

It's suggested (from what I gathered) that Stuart Ullman is implicated in the original deleted coda, as Mr. Ullman hands Danny the ball that rolls towards him from room 237.

I have the book "The Stanley Kubrick Archives", put together by his estate, and there are some still photos of the deleted coda from "The Shining", which was cut from the film 1 week after it first premiered. Incidentally, Kubrick cut down "The Shining" himself for international markets after critics complained of it's length. There are a few more scenes, but I've never seen Kubrick's final cut side-by-side with his original US theatrical cut, so I've no frame of reference to contrast the two cuts.

...but luckily there's this. ;)

http://movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=1215

Having looked at the page, and having seen "The Shining" uncut for so long, it's impossible for me to imagine the film without those scenes.

Hah, for me it's the complete reverse. I can't wrap my mind around the thought that those pictures could be part of the film. :D

...btw, because of this comment thread I somehow ended up on the dark side of youtube and found myself watching silly "documentaries" which explain how Kubrick encoded messages into "The Shining" about how he directed the Apollo 11 landing on the moon. I expect to be completely paranoid by the end of the evening. *lol*

I better should go watch "The Killing" and "Killer's Kiss". Still haven't seen them.

I think whomever made those documentaries should try and make a case for the munchkin hanging himself in the forest in 'The Wizard of Oz' (it's actually an ostrich dipping it's head, but conspiracy theorists want to believe in a darker urban legend than that). Kubrick did used to call Stephen King around 3-4am when he was making 'The Shining' and ask questions about whether or not he "believed in God".

Also, Stanley Kubrick's favorite film of all time was David Lynch's 'Eraserhead', and when he was making 'The Shining', he made a point to screen it multiple times for the entire cast and crew to get them in the mood for their scenes. David Lynch said upon learning of this, that he could have died peacefully there and then and not need to make another film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLSWR2EnHEs

"Killers Kiss" is one of my most favorite early Kubricks I would say it's even better than the kinda cheesy "The Killing".

I suppose if Mulholland Drive should have been a TV series but ended up as a Pilot with a closed ending. I would give the movie another chance

This.

The ending is just too tacked on, and even if you don't know the history behind the film it's obvious that the last 30 minutes or so were shot some time later. There's a big difference in tone and production and it just doesn't gel very well. Besides, the ending makes so many scenes that came before redundant and pointless. As fine and funny the storylines with the killer and the director are (or the one with the diner near the beginning), they really shouldn't have been kept in... or at least been rewritten, reshot or whatever. They just don't tie up and lead nowhere, and it feels like they're in the movie because Lynch couldn't let go of them.

Personally I think it would have been better if the pilot had been released as it was... with leaving it up to us imagining/wondering how the series could have been like. ;) The way it is now I just don't think it works...

Anyway, I always wondered though what was up with that almost unreasonably high acclaim it got from the get go. Maybe it's because critics felt bad for pissing all over "Lost Highway" and wanted to be right this time... and from that point on the perception of the film took a life on its own and went a bit out of control, I don't know. I though will never forget the deafening silence that went through the audience in the fully packed theater when the ending credits came up... cut by the voice of the guy a few rows in front of me, bursting out in a loud and disbelieving "You got to be kidding me."... and everyone else bursting out in laughter in reaction. ;)

In the end I think that Mulholland Drive has A LOT of fantastic performances and individuals scenes, but no matter from which angle I look at it... it just isn't the sum of its parts.

Oh by the way, a couple of years ago before the Burton Theater closed down, I went to see Crispin Glover's film 'What is It?', which he's currently touring with alongside it's sequel 'It is Fine. Everything is Fine.'. Afterwards, he did a Q&A and talked a lot about David Lynch and his involvement in 'Wild at Heart'. I think I learned more about Lynch that evening than I did the evening Lynch came to speak about meditation. Best part was getting to meet Crispin and get a photo with him. He was really friendly and eager to answer any questions people had about his work or past experiences with other directors.

I just realized we're blowing up your page with endless film talk. Want us to stop? Take it elsewhere?

Actually I didn't notice that all this talk here happening, FA decided not to inform me about a single comment.

Hey, FA! Just because I wasn't involved in the discussion directly doesn't mean that I'm not interested! *shakes fist*