All lives matter. Not black, not white, not yellow, not red. Only everything, without differences in skin color. Otherwise, you will get racism.

Or: our insides all have the same color.

We should turn ourselves inside out.

I was going to say that...

Well, there was that terrible fog in one of the Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episodes... think we can go find it?

I am reminded of the Conan the Barbarian story "Rouges In The House" where Conan encounter's the story's villain and comments that people have told him that his heart is black and that he wants to see if his blood is black too. Later on he observes, "His blood was red after all!"

You're awesome for saying "All lives" matter ^^

But they don't, which is the /point/.

Calling out white supremacy and racism isn't racism. Tani is from Germany - trust me, the Germans know better than most folks where the evils of prejudice go to when taken to their logical extremes. Germans actually learn their history, unlike the whitewashed version Americans and British learn about theirs.

Talking about white racism is dogwhistling. What about black racism? Failing to condemn all forms of racism is bigotry disguised as virtue. And no, we Americans know perfectly well about what our country is really like. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Racism is more than personal prejudice, it's a system of interlocking forms of oppression that disenfranchise people of color.

Think back 100 years ago and women getting the vote nationwide: while some women probably did hate men for being men, it's not as if they had any **power** to deny men the right to vote. On the other hand, men who despised women absolutely had the tools to ensure they political power and representation was denied to women.

What happened 100 years, or even 50 years ago has no effect on the present. Yes, I've already heard about "institutional racism" and all that claptrap, but I see absolutely no evidence for it. We elected a black President, remember? And he was just a party hack who turned out to be inept and kept trying to go on his "messiah" image.

"What happened 100 years, or even 50 years ago has no effect on the present."

Okay boomer.

I'm not a boomer, and in any case the statement is true whether I am 12 or 120 years old.

LongTom, things that happened hundreds or thousands of years ago can effect the present. Here in America, the legacy of slavery persists even today, and much of the South basically has never accepted the outcome of the Civil War. And the Middle East is still fighting over events from Biblical times.

The past has at best very little effect on the present. The Middle East fighting is over what is going on now, not what happened when Alexander the Great or the Roman Empire or Genghis Khan or the Ottoman Empire existed. The Iran of fifty years ago is quite unlike how it is now, and that can be said of every nation in existence. Societies and cultures change you know. And slavery and Jim Crow are as much as part of the distant past as the Napoleonic Empire. They don't exist today, and they are as dead as the idea of the divine right of kings, or the concept of matter being composed of air, water, earth, and fire.

Perhaps they are "Marginalized" for a reason, At some point the "Black community" NEEDS to take Responsibility for it's own actions for NO Other Race in america DOES this it has been well documented going back to the WATTS RIOTS in the 1960's and beyond.
We Need to look at this issue clearly with FACTS OVER FACE meaning we need truth to be more important than consideration over the others "Feelings" THE FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS and get away from the "Weasel words" of Language Manipulation. that the Left is so fond of.

It's going to come down to Separation or war; for actions speak louder than words and a lot of "Fence sitters" are coming to realization that Perhaps those that riot are unfit for civilization. all the Rioting and Looting has set the stage for moving the overton window for a lot of people who have up to this point refused to see the truth, and this new "Awakening" will spell a MASSIVE shift to the Right in this country.
Appeasement Never Works.

Texas closed down a lot of polling centers in minority communities on Super Tuesday.

"What happened 100 years, or even 50 years ago has no effect on the present."

False statement, as clarified below.

I said "at best very little". People are not affected by what happened to their ancestors, and just because your grandpa suffered during World War Two doesn't mean you share his sufferings. People whose distant ancestors suffered slavery or plagues or working in horrible farms or factories have not suffered what their distant ancestors suffered. So my statement still holds true.

Yep. Correct phrase is:
#blacklivesmatterTOO
So... #AllLivesMatter
Otherwise #blm looks like a black racism. Racism is bad, no matter white or black.
Police give no f*ck what color of your skin, they murdering and/or killing not black ppl only, "just 'cause they're black".
White and yellow ppl murdered no less than black. There's no main race or nation.

Exactly. This is all the more understandable now, when video is available from the personal registrar of the policeman who detained Floyd. All this is just the legalization of black Nazis and racists. Only a pretext for robberies and new murders. American Democracy.

Uhm, all due respect, but didn't you read the link about why "All lives matter" is wrong?

All lives can't matter till black lives matter

Aren't all lives matter?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZx50J0.....amp;name=large

That comic is so cute. ^w^

Wrong. Unlike races and ethnicities, rainforests don't think and have no socials.

Focusing attention on one of the communities might lead them to think they are special, thus excusing their behaviour. Black or feminist or gay, your fight ends on gaining equality, not superiority.

The death of a black dude was a clear violation of police instructions, no doubt. Though it's not an excuse for protesters to raid entire cities and loot somebody's property.

Wow you totally didnt get the point.
Its not working towards supremacy, Black People arent equal with white in America AT ALL so they fight now to reach that point. And the looters my dear Sir have ALL colors if you havent seen and the looters also have no f*cking connection to what happened to George Floyd, they are assholes using him as a cheap excuse.

Well then, I guess it's hard to get rid of stereotypes based on stats and life experience?

Though from my side it still looks like fighting the symptoms, not the cause. You can't just pretend to like your neighbours whatever they are, you want them to meet some standarts in terms of behaviour and knowledge or at least a job. I'm not talking about those who started in ghetto and made a PHD, I'm talking about the majority, and the problem here is community incapsulation. All these "we're sorry" or kneeling or government pays don't deal with the cause, but just incept the idea of opressed minority, causing even more problems. In my humble opinion.

But thats exactly the point again of racism. You already expect them to have bad behaviour, less knowledge and by that it happens people dont give them jobs.
Its not like they wouldnt want one, and since of people thinking the exact thing as above they dont get a change for a job.
Well summoned up what the acutal problem is, its simple racism.

>> You already expect them to have bad behaviour, less knowledge
Nope, that's not what I said. I said I'd expect my neighbours to have standarts, otherwise I won't pretend to like them.

I'd have no problems with blacks/whites/azian/gay/lesbi/disabled/whatever who have about the same standarts as I do. But not all people are like that. There are lots of people being like "Why do I need school?" or "Why should I carry my cig to the trash can?" and so on. That's my personal experience (oh, and most of these were white, just in case). And they always have their explanation "You won't understand, that's my life, that's my culture". And their community incapsulation only secures this idea. Telling everybody to like/support/feel sorry for them is not a solution. Solution is to give them the standarts of living you have. You start with education by letting (or forcing) them to study, so they could see outside of their surroundings. And so on...

I've followed your art for years, but this type of opinion is a big yikes for me. Going to unfollow now.

That's some next level red pill shit

Your loss.

You mean its Shepherds loss to unfollow wiredhoov?

I mean that it's Shepherd's loss to unfollow Tani Da Real, which is how I interpreted the post. Tani's artwork is beautiful.

Aah no I think it was their reply to WiredHooves comment since they clearly seem to not understand what racism is made of

Yes, my comment was directed at WiredHooves. Tani is awesome! #BLM

Oops! Sorry, NorthShepherd!

yeah, same here. blatant racist.
super happy to see you calling this out, North <3

With so many amazing artists around, why support trash?

Hell yeah. I'm also really happy to see Tani calling this out. So many great artists who are also great people, no need for any tolerance of racist shit like what wiredhooves is spewing in here.

Imagine if after the 2016 Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, FL the social media hashtag #queerlivesmatter trended globally.

Would that mean straight lives are worth less than queer lives? Of course not. It would highlight that based on the present context that homophobia and violence takes a dangerous toll on one group in particular - the LGBT+ community.

"Focusing attention on one of the communities might lead them to think they are special..." Which is why many white Americans feel entitled to lord it over everybody else, and will retaliate (sometimes violently) when other groups refuse to act as if they're inferior.

Yes, obviously. And how many of those will accept this BLM thing? None of them, I believe.

Honestly I feel like everybody here is too busy claiming me racist, so they won't even listen to my point. Adequate people know black lives matter as well as any other ones. But if you're targeting the haters, all this BLM stuff will only irritate them more, especially with this riots/looting/criminals background in TV. So, instead of saying "you must value them!" maybe it's better to do something, so people WILL value them?

It's easy to put BLM status in facebook, but how about some real deeds? I don't know, go to a bad neighbourhood and help some poor kid with his studies maybe?

You think these people who scream about "alt-right" and "white supremacy" genuinely care about the people in the slums and mean streets? Of course they don't They just want to virtue-signal without sincerity and prove how superior they are to the rest of us. They hate me because I can see through them and am not afraid to say so.

You Matter: unless you accelerate at the speed of light, then You Energy

All lives matter and we should support each other against the ruling class oppression.

Until Black Lives Matter, All Lives Matter will be hollow and vapid.

We can start be realizing that the vast majority black lives are taken by other blacks and all this talk about "white supremacy" is just virtueless virtue-signaling.

It's not virtueless virtue-signaling. The effects of redlining, racially-restrictive neighborhood covenants, and so much more throughout the American legal and political system have lingering effects to this day.

What happened 60 years ago has no effect on today. "White supremacy" is just a bogeyman for denying bad behavior on the part of blacks.

What about bad behavior on the part of whites, such as white cops (and the occasional civilian) killing unarmed blacks who were no threat to anyone? Or beating the shit out of peaceful protesters? Your attempts to deny the existence of white supremacy only prove that it's real, and as powerful as ever.

Whites killing blacks are quite rare, and most of the time it's the other way around. Screaming about "white supremacy" is like screaming about other bogeyman, and the reality is that white supremacists are at best an insignificant force. Black racism is a far more powerful force, but it's taboo to talk about it. And where are the stories about cops beating peaceful protesters? Along the lines of Bigfoot sightings? If we're going to talk about race, let's talk about it honestly or not at all.

"And where are the stories about cops beating peaceful protesters?" Thanks for asking! Here are some helpful links.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/.....rge-floyd.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/us/p.....-use-of-force/
https://tinyurl.com/texasprotests
https://tinyurl.com/bbconprotests
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news.....s-george-floyd

Okay, one of the links doesn't work for whatever reason. Here's the original link:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52932611

Problem: the Guardian and CNN do not have reputations for honesty. I've heard of news stories that turned out to be false. A recent example is the Duke lacrosse team story, where a stripper woman accused several students of having raped her, and the unscrupulous district attorney suppressed evidence to prove her a liar to help his reelection chances. It turned out not only did said DA try to frame the three students, he put other innocent people into jail too. So I'm not going to believe a news story until it is definitely confirmed.

And you accuse others of "dismissing" that opinion article you keep linking to on that alt-right propaganda website. Nice hypocrisy.

I noticed that not person has refuted anything that it said, but keeps calling it an "alt-right opinion article". Translation: my accusations are positive accurate, and you're afraid to deal with facts so you resort to smear tactics. There are some tremendous hypocrites here, and I am not one of them.

What is there to refute? You did not provide evidence, just an opinion.

But I did provide evidence and you called it "opinion". Enough already, there's no point in further discussion on anything with you.

When the article agrees with your opinion, where does their data come from and how does it support your argument? What is the evidence that it is anything other than an opinion? It's a simple question that you should be able to answer, were this anything other than your 'opnion'.

And honestly, anyone with anything being a high school-level of education should be able to provide this, as it is taught as part of any science education.

*anything other than a

"the reality is that white supremacists are at best an insignificant force." Um, you are aware that Donald Trump is a white supremacist, right? And he's been one for a long time, too. In 1973, he and his father were sued by the Justice Department for refusing to rent apartments to blacks. The "birther" bullshit against Barack Obama was the impetus for his entry into politics. His very first campaign speech had him ranting about Mexican rapists. And then there was his infamous comment about "shithole countries". Racism is at the very heart of Trump's presidency.

Donald Trump is not a white supremacist; if he were it would certainly have come out. You believe he is Putin's puppet too? You lost all your credibility, bucko.

"It would certainly have come out."

It came out in 1973, and it came out with birtherism, and it came out in his speech about Mexican rapists, and it came out, dude, it's out.

Telling about Mexican rapists is not racism, it's reality. You really are an asshat.

It always was like that. All humans are humans despite their hight, age, gender, sexual orientation or place of birth. It's all about state agents, who think they are privileged and who think they can treat everyone else like cattle. Everyone else can be on the George Floyd's place.

Good explanation for why "Black Lives Matter" doesn't mean other lives don't matter.

However, be very, very careful with that "all (good) lives matter" bit. Who defines what "good" means in this context? Because different people are going to disagree there and that can lead to massive atrocities as we saw in the 20th century.

Dominus tecum

I saw a short bit of a black comedian's routine. I really wish I'd seen it all instead of the TV advertising short. He explained the same thing as that comic in one short line.

"Save the whales doesn't mean fuck the dolphins"

YES omg that line. Perfect. Stolen. "Save the whales doesn't mean fuck the dolphins"

Not exactly stolen, at least not by me, if I knew the man's name I'd give full credit.

Dolphins are whales. They're under the parvorder Odontoceti, the toothed whales.

I'm glad that you get it; there absolutely is no race, period, that should be discriminated against, only bad individuals. Equality indeed.

To those saying all lives matter: No shit. We know that. We're saying Black Lives Matter because that the conversation we need to have. That's the issue at hand; racism against black people. That is the problem we're having and need to focus on. "All lives matter" is like saying "but what about straight pride?" when there is a gay rights movement. All Lives aren't what's at stake here. Don't derail progress just to win an argument.

Except that most black lives are not ended by whites, but by other blacks. Very few blacks are killed by police officers, and in many of those cases those are legitimate self-defense. You can't blame everything on white people; they're not responsible for the black community's problems.

Maybe you need to educate yourself about how whites oppressed blacks for centuries because of a superiority complex. Segregation didn't end that long ago in the scheme of things. When it ended, blacks weren't suddenly equal to whites and they haven't been treated as such since. So yes, white people are in a way responsible for the black community's problems. People who suffered through segregation are still alive and still dealing with the fear of white hatred.

I'm very well educated, thank you very much. And the idea that things that happened decades ago affect life today are laughable. Most of the people who have known Jim Crow are very old, and they are not the ones committing drive-by shootings and dealing drugs. In fact they are suffering from other blacks instead of whites. So no, you need to get out more and realize that blacks are certainly not treated as second-class citizens. I deal with them every day, and I can safely guess that you do not.

I do deal with black people regularly, thank you. I have black friends. And I'm not shallow enough to believe that all black people's problems come from other blacks. I'm done here

'except that most black lives are not ended by whites, but by other blacks.' - Citation needed.
'Very few blacks are killed by police officers' - Citation needed.

'they're not responsible for the black community's problems' - They live in the same country, don't they? Have the same voting rights, are members of that state. They are able to use their influence to help change things for the better.

See my response to your other post. And no, white people aren't responsible for others' bad behavior.

'white people aren't responsible for others' bad behavior.' - You're aware of the logical conclusions of that statement, right? Do you believe that prisons should exist?

You've got a better way of dealing with hardened criminals? If so, I'm all ears.

Ah, so suddenly you ARE responsible for others' bad action. Got it.

That's like blaming the rape victim for the rapist. You aren't too smart, you know that?

I'm not to smart? Great ad hominem, the last resort of people who can't support their own argument. I'm merely pointing out a glaring logical fallacy in your own argument.

What fallacy? No, white people are not responsible for the problems of the black community, and you completely failed to refute it.

Unless it's inconvenient for you, of course.

Black on black violence is a massive problem that black people have beem aware of for years. However it is inherently an issue that is based in many societal issues that wrap back onto either de jure (by the law) or de facto (" a state of affairs that is true in fact, but that is not officially sanctioned") racism. [https://onlinelaw.wustl.edu/blog/le.....factode-jure/]. You brought up Chicago with a link you posted in the comments but Chicago has a slew of problems that are highly generational (poor schooling, poor housing, etc) that contribute to black on black crime.

It's true that blacks to black killing is an issue, but that is not the issue that is even being discussed. To bring that up is a type of red herring.It's the issue of police brutality and killing. And there are clear stats showing police issues with black people are proportionally higher and there is clear disconnect in understanding between officers and the black community. Those are issues that are being discussed with these horrible incidents of police violence. (https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta.....ng-in-the-u-s/).

Most of us know it's a cultural issue. As for poverty, it is a massive problem among whites and other races, and they don't commit drive-by shootings or have babies at age 13.

As for police brutality, it doesn't just happen to blacks either. And is it really such a serious issue, or just a distraction? The police responsible for George Floyd have already been punished harshly, so the protests make no logical sense.

It's cultural and structural, especially when looking at a place like Chicago. That city has had years of housing issues that leave black families stuck with poor housing and schooling. As for poverty amongst other races that is definitely true and I won't deny that. However it compounds differently for other races. And I would argue against the fact that you don't see teen pregnancy and violence amongst poor races. This an issue for rural whites too. In fact, rural white poverty somewhat mirrors the issues in inner cities, but once again, that's a different issue than police brutality.

I an aware police brutality effects white people too. Which is part of the reason I think it should be addressed, it's not just our issue. But it is proportionally a HIGHER issue for black people even there are less of us in the US. When you say distraction, I'm curious as to what you think it is distracting from. And as to the point why protests are still going on is because people are sick of seeing this happen. It's 2020 and some police are acting like the people who beat the hell out of Rodney King in the 90s. Whether that be an issue of perception or what, people want their voices heard.

This Havard Study is a good one that covers what we are both discussing.https://www.hks.harvard.edu/sites/d.....ckViolence.pdf

The news media failed to show the whole video in the Rodney King case. The policemen did nothing wrong, and King himself was a lifelong alcoholic who only committed crimes when he got soused. Unfortunately, he never kicked the problem and it finally got him at age 49.

Also, I know we can talk about 300 years of oppression and all that, but let's be honest. Things got worse in the past seventy years, not better, when discrimination was a far worse problem. I have in fact read some fiction by back authors in school (not the famous stories), and you can learn a lot about what happened in the past by reading books and seeing movies that were actually made in the past. Stories may be fictional, but they do describe real problems that happened in that era, such as poverty and starvation, as well as ethnic and racial strife. You could get in as much trouble for being a Catholic as you could for being black decades ago. Yes, the Ku Klux Klan targeted Catholics too, and John Kennedy's being a Catholic was an issue used against him when he ran for President.

I really do come up with some surprises, don't I?

What "surprises"? That racism was even worse in the past? That the Klan has gone after Catholics (and other groups besides African-Americans)? Anyone who's read a little history knows these things.

When you called Donald Trump a "white supremacist", you proved once and for all you are a crank. I wouldn't believe you if you said "Good morning."

If Trump isnt a racist, then I dont know who is. Those who cant see that as easy as it is shown right NOW with all the troubles ongoing, should really get their nose a bit into history and find the differences and especially resemblances between Trump and lets say Hitler, one of the worlds worst racists.

You're right about one thing, you don't know who is. In fact you don't know anything and I find you a complete fruitcake too.

Yea it's really a shame that so many in this comment section don't seem to grasp this concept. Only shows how much progress there is still to make.

THIS

The Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement has many allies within the Progressive movement. Funded largely by the most liberal elements of the Left, especially those within the George Soros network, like his Center for American Progress, BLM has been a major motivator for the attacks on police officers all over the country. With chants like “Pigs in a blanket, fry-em like bacon” and “What do we want? Dead Cops!” the simple fact is that BLM has created an atmosphere of anger and hatred and has incited violence against law enforcement officers across the country. In no way has the killing and wounding of law enforcement officers dampened the enthusiasm of the BLM. It would seem that no reasonable person or group, regardless of how liberal, would want to be associated with any organization that advocates the killing of anyone, especially police.

None of the BLM supporters are more dangerous and hypocritical than the Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). SPLC is a self-appointed “Hate Group” watchdog that produces a deceptive list of people and organizations who are deemed “haters.” While there are no clearly stated criteria for groups being on this “hate” list, the SPLC’s specialty is the targeting and smearing of conservatives and conservative groups. As Laird Wilcox, an expert on extremist groups, has pointed out, "What they [the SPLC] do is a kind of bullying and stalking. They pick people who are vulnerable in terms of public opinion and simply destroy them. Their victims are usually ordinary people expressing their values, opinions, and beliefs – and they're up against a very talented and articulate defamation machine."

The hypocrisy of their support of BLM is that the SPLC conducts training for law enforcement groups in various parts of the United Sates. The SPLC also maintains a “law enforcement resources” page that – not surprisingly – claims the most credible threats to law enforcement are those arising from right-wing actors. While the SPLC is tacitly advocating violence against police by supporting BLM and its associates, they are simultaneously instructing police on how to identify “hate groups.” And the story gets worse.

Now it has been exposed through BLM’s own documents that they are unashamedly anti-Semitic. The recent release of the BLM “Social and Political Policy Agenda[AC1] ” accuses Israel of “genocide” and “apartheid.” Despite this, SPLC continues to support BLM while BLM calls for the cessation of all foreign aid to Israel and blames this U.S. ally for atrocities against the Palestinians. How can SPLC continue to support BLM when it is now abundantly clear that BLM is both anti-police and anti-Israel?

Part of the answer can be found in the events that transpired on August 15, 2012. The SPLC, having listed the Family Research Council (FRC) as an “anti-gay” hate group, may have sparked what FRC president Tony Perkins called, “an act of domestic terrorism” perpetrated by Floyd Lee Corkins. Corkins entered the offices of the Family Research Council (FRC) in Washington, D.C. and shot the building manager, Leo Johnson. Corkins admitted that he targeted FRC because they were listed as an anti-LGBT “hate group” on SPLC’s website. Corkins admitted that he was motivated to try and kill as many FRC employees there as possible because they did not support same sex marriage. Corkins’ conviction was the first ever under the Domestic Terrorism Statute in the nation’s capital. SPLC’s influence on Corkins through its reckless labeling was established in the court proceedings. Now the SPLC is once again tacitly inciting violence through its support of BLM, this time against police, while portraying themselves as police supporters.

By endorsing BLM, the Southern Poverty Law Center has demonstrated that it has no concerns about the consequences of its actions. Now they are complicit in the targeting of police and the condemnation of Israel, yet there seems to be no “hate” label anywhere in this. In fact, the SPLC has cheered BLM, stating it is not only not a hate group, the “perception that it is … illustrates the problem. Our society … does not accept that racial injustice remains pervasive.”

What hypocrisy.

[citation needed]

according to the 2019 Study On Police Shootings A Joint Study by Michigan State University and The University Of Maryland that Detailed EVERY police shooting, in Every Precinct in Every State in the Nation. Tabulating the results the report was published in The New York Times.

They found Nationwide there were a total of
1003 ARMED PEOPLE KILLED:
405 White
249 Black
349 Other

Nationwide there were a total of
55 UNARMED PEOPLE KILLED:
25 White
14 Black
16 Other

White people were disproportionately Killed in Police interactions.
When there Is A Police Shooting of a Black Civilian, the study found the suspect was More Likely to Be Shot By A BLACK COP.

Sorry if this flies in the face of "THE NARRATIVE" But Facts take precedent over Face; meaning there needs to be a commitment to TRUTH over offending the "Feelings" of Others.

You cited numbers that prove my point... Do you not understand basic Math? Have you even looked at population percentages by race?

You also seem to think that just because there are a few black people in the police force its somehow magically fixes policing culture.

Maybe its you that needs to look past your own feelings.

you seem to view the world through the Lens of RACE. i don't know if anyone has told you, but That Makes You a RACIST ...Just sayin.

Words are hard, I know its okay, it's not easy when you didn't finishing elementary school.

There is this thing called definitions. They are used provide meaning for words. You can look it up in a thing called a Dictionary.

I would say that your comment is a reflection on your personality. i will say UNDOOMED has a word for people like you....
time wounds all heels and I've got nothing but Time on my side.

Sorry I only speak English. Not sure what your gibberish is about anymore.

"Don't derail progress just to win an argument."

Clearly you didn't read the OP's comment.

I am countering the Rabid "Bending-Of-The-Knee" to a Racial supremacist group that has fomented a Rebellion in this nation. or haven't you heard of the "George Floyd Rebellion"
To react with "HASHTAG BLACKLIVESMATTER" is starting to sound more and more like the Salute given in Germany in 1939. those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

I'd worry more about that "Germany 1939" thing with Trump and his supporters than with the BLM movement, bud.

You are NOT a real Student of History, Are Ya Buddy?
if you didn't "HH" salute Immediately you were Beaten by the Brown shirts. same CRAP Happening TOday if You Don't "Bend-the-Knee" to BLM or not show Sufficient support they come and burn down your shop look at the "roving bands of BLM in London beating lone Whites who do not KowTow to the Mob.
TRUTH OVER FACE!

Go crawl back in your sad little hole and get out of the furry community please. We don't need people like you.

Typical response when you can not refute truth of the facts presented to you. go back to your "Safe Space" kid This is an ADULT conversation. TRUTH OVER FACE

There is no truth to refute. Have fun with your deep-rooted racism. I'm sure you'll make plenty of friends who think in the same disjointed way you do and turn out to be more dangerous than you think black people are. This will be my last response to your bullshit.

Far more cops have killed civilians (non-white ones in particular) than civilians have killed cops. No one would hate cops if they didn't murder people.

The FRC got listed as a hate group because it's members literally believe that homosexuality should be a criminal offense.

Israel gets condemned because it's a racist country that was founded by kicking Palestinians out of their homes and continues to routinely murder Palestinians. Opposing anti-arab racism is not anti-semitism. As a matter of fact, conflating Zionism with Judaism is anti-semitic.

Muslims also believe that homosexuality should be a criminal offense.
They throw Gays off tall buildings, the FRC has not.
You can blame the league of nations, the precursor to the UN for Israel. Ask yourself if "Multiculturalism" is such a wonderful thing, than Why is Israel the LEAST "Diverse" nation on earth?

What makes you think I support the actions of ISIS or Israel's racist laws that allow American jews with no connection to the land to immigrate but prevent Palestinians that have been evicted from their homes from returning?

and what the hell does that have to do with Communists and Negro's Rioting and Rebelling Here and Now? absolutely NOTHING!
and if you find my use of the word "Negro" to be "Problematic" Take it up with the UNITED NEGRO COLLEGE FUND
FACTS OVER FACE

This is very beautiful art work ❤️ And i very much agree.

oh i would have embedded myself in this little strip ^^ 🧡

I like that comic! Kinda changed my mind there

will this become a shirt?

This...this is absolutely such an amazing piece!

Good lord these commentators don't get it. TY Tani!

Or maybe we do. Maybe we realize that Black Lives Matter is not the civil rights group it purports to be, but a hate group that advocates for the killing of police officers. Sone of us actually know things.

Or maybe you don't. Let's leave it at that. I'm not going to bicker with someone who has no idea nor is bothering to care about the experiences that myself and my family has gone through. I appreciate Tani's support and understanding. Enjoy your weekend. :)

LongTom are you just going to keep making shit up all throughout this comment section without providing any evidence? You claimed earlier to be 'very well educated'. Educated people do not just spew nonsense without providing citations. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, after all.

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org.....ers-are-black/

Satisfied?

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/inte.....ctual-takeout/

Far-right bias - Lol, no. I asked for evidence, not an opinion piece by an alt-right propaganda site. You understand how evidence works, yes? When you said that you were well educated, I was assuming that you have some sort of experience with statistics, as all people educated in something like like do. Where is their information coming from, and is it published in a peer-reviewed article?

I gave you evidence, and when it didn't tell you what you wanted to hear, you dismissed it. You're hopeless.

You gave me an opinion piece, not evidence. Where does their information originate? It's not a difficult question to answer.

No, I gave you evidence. Nuff said.

Is ANYONE going to mention that George Floyd was a Six Time FELON who served SIX Prison Sentences his Latest for a home invasion where he held a GUN to the Belly of a Pregnant Woman? or the fact he had a lethal dose of Fentinal in his system at the time of his arrest?
This is the "Hero" that BLM wants to hold up as virtuous?
the REAL difference between Blacks and Whites that people fail to grasp is Whites Don't Riot whenever one of our THUGS gets killed by the cops. perhaps they are "Marginalized" for a reason They are the only Race that Riots. Asians don't Riot, Whites don't Riot, Mexicans don't Riot. just the 13% seem to have this predilection going back to the 1960's... Perhaps THAT is what needs to be addressed and not the boogyman of "systemic racism" The Black Community needs to start taking Responsibility for it's actions. and Quit playing the Victim card it is unbecoming in civilized society. to try and defend their actions is exhibiting the soft bigotry of low expectations.
... Change my mind.

O, J, Simpson was made a racial martyr too. Nuff said.

White. People. Don't. Riot!?
LOLOMGWTFBBQ. Do you even fact check what you say before it comes out of your mouth. Or just uncritically believe what your racist teachers tell you?
You literally typed out what sounded good in your head before googling "riots in the USA" a country whose independence started in riots.

Oh, there were the Hard Hat Riots of 1970 when some construction workers beat up some long-haired radicals. But most rioters do so for fun and profit. But teaching you history is like teaching a mermaid how to do the splits.

Since you're so well educated, I'm going to ask you some questions that first-year natural sciences students are often asked: how do you know that you're right, and if you were actually wrong, how would you know? What methodology do you use to validate your opinion?

How is it you think you could even teach me history when you don't seem to know any of it? You have a short and narrow historical memory if a 1970 riot is the best you can think of.

White people rioting for no reason
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/201.....no-reason.html

Here are a few examples of what i am talking about, You may not have lived through these, I DID and remember the race-related riots that tore through U. S. numerous cities in the 1960s. Between 1964 and 1971, civil disturbances (as many as 700, by one count) resulted in large numbers of injuries, deaths, and arrests, as well as considerable property damage, concentrated in predominantly black areas.

here is an overview for YOU so I am speaking from observable History Kid. This is an Example of TRUTH OVER FACE

1965: Los Angeles

An identity check by police on two black men in a car sparks the Watts riots, August 11-17, 1965, in Los Angeles, which leave 34 dead and tens of millions of dollars' worth of damage.

1967: Newark

Two white police officers arrest and beat up a black taxi driver for a minor traffic violation, setting off rioting July 12-17 in Newark, New Jersey. For five days, in stifling summer heat, rioters wreck the district, leaving 26 dead and 1,500 injured.

1967: Detroit

Race riots in Detroit, Michigan, July 23-27, 1967, kill 43 and leave more than 2,000 injured. Trouble spreads to Illinois, North Carolina, Tennessee and Maryland.

1968: King assassination

After the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. in Memphis, Tennessee, violence erupts in 125 cities April 4-11, 1968, leaving at least 46 dead and 2,600 injured. In Washington, then-President Lyndon B. Johnson sends in the 82nd Airborne Division to quell riots


1980: Miami

The acquittal of four white police officers in Tampa, Florida, on charges of beating a black motorcyclist to death in December 1979 after he rode through a red light sets off a wave of violence in Miami's Liberty City, May 17-20, 1980, leaving 18 dead and more than 300 injured.

1992: Los Angeles

From April 30 to May 1, 1992, riots erupt in Los Angeles, with a toll of at least 59 dead and more than 2,300 injured. The violence was set off by the acquittal of four white police officers who were filmed beating up a black motorist, Rodney King. Violence also breaks out in Atlanta, California, Las Vegas, New York, San Francisco and San Jose

2001: Cincinnati

On April 9, 2001, rioting erupts in Cincinnati, Ohio, after the killing of a 19-year-old black man, Timothy Thomas, by a white police officer.

Mayor Charlie Luken lifts a four-night curfew on the city on April 16, after the city's worst rioting in more than 30 years, during which 70 people are injured.

2014: Ferguson

Ten days of protests and riots and heavy-handed police tactics in Ferguson, Missouri, take place August 9-19, 2014, after a white officer kills an unarmed black teenager, Michael Brown. In late November, the announcement that charges are being dropped against the police officer leads to a new explosion of anger

2015: Baltimore

On April 19, 2015, Freddie Gray, a 25-year-old black man, dies a week after suffering serious spinal injuries in a police van after being arrested by Baltimore officers.

The arrest is captured on video and broadcast, leading to rioting and looting in Baltimore, a city of 620,000 inhabitants, of which nearly two-thirds are black. A state of emergency is declared and the authorities call in troops

2016: Charlotte

In September 2016, in Charlotte, North Carolina, sometimes violent protests break out over the fatal police shooting of Keith Lamont Scott, 43.

Police say the shooting happened when they saw him hold up a gun as they approached his vehicle after seeing him rolling a marijuana cigarette. His family says he was unarmed.

The authorities impose a curfew and call in troops.


and Now in 2020 we have the GEORGE FLOYD REBELLION. that is going to end up for a call for the Left and right to Peacefully Separate in this Country, You can be a Racist if you want Expounding the Soft bigotry of low expectations playing the savior but I, who does not have the Social Disease of "Political Correctness" prefer To Speak Truth over Saving Face of others "feelings"

Here we go again,
Its only "bad" when black people do it. Thats a nice very selective view of history you have there.

You might want to find a therapist to talk about all the feelings you keep projecting onto others.

You may not have lived through these, I DID and remember the race-related riots that tore through U. S. numerous cities in the 1960s. Between 1964 and 1971, civil disturbances (as many as 700, by one count) resulted in large numbers of injuries, deaths, and arrests, as well as considerable property damage, concentrated in predominantly black areas. TRUTH OVER FACE Kid

WOH! You really got me there. I wasn't prepared for you to copypaste one of the first Google search results for "race riots" into FA. I'm really going to have to rethink my whole position of "being accepting of people of different races" paradigm.

Truth is truth kid don't try and discount it just because it goes against your indoctrination.

I'll pass on what your selling. Just because I played an asshole on TV doesn't mean I want to be one in real life. Thanks for showing me how you ignore facts and pick evidence to suit your own racist narrative.

Rickcoona, I've been considering whether to respond to you or not. "Change my mind", you say. If there's one thing I've learned from arguing with reactionaries online, it's that nothing will change their closed minds. No matter how much evidence you give them, they'll ignore or dismiss even the most reliable sources. And yet, at times like this, I have to try anyway. So here we go. Oh, and make a sandwich -- this is going to be a long response since there's so much to unpack.

1. "Is ANYONE going to mention that George Floyd was a Six Time FELON... [snip]"

First, according to this history of Floyd's life from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, "Floyd was charged in 2007 with armed robbery in a home invasion in Houston and in 2009 was sentenced to five years in prison as part of a plea deal, according to court documents." So yes, he was a convicted felon, although the article doesn't mention any of the lurid details you bring up. (Sources, please?) At any rate, Floyd had paid for his crimes long before he moved to Minneapolis. And even if everything you said above is true, none of it excuses Derek Chauvin or the other cops who watched his brutal, sadistic murder of George Floyd.

Second, whenever the police kill an unarmed black person, right-wingers always try to convince us that he or she deserved to die. The victim's past is always used against them, whether or not they were a threat at the time they were killed -- and Floyd definitely wasn't. The crime he was suspected of was passing a counterfeit $20 bill, which is hardly a capital offense. All Chauvin had to do was put the cuffs on Floyd. Instead, he chose to murder Floyd over the course of eight slow, agonizing minutes.

Third, if we can go into Floyd's past, we can go into Chauvin's too. Did you know that the two of them worked together, and they didn't get along because of Chauvin's racism? Read and/or watch the details in this report from CBS News.

2. "the REAL difference between Blacks and Whites that people fail to grasp is Whites Don't Riot whenever one of our THUGS gets killed by the cops." No, white people riot because their team won (or lost) the big game. Seriously. Check out this New York magazine article from 2014. Also, riots happen all over the world, in every race and culture.

3. "perhaps they are 'Marginalized' for a reason They are the only Race that Riots.... [snip]" Wow. I thought I was used to naked expressions of racism, but I never expected to read them at Fur Affinity. Thank you for being so honest about your hatred, though.

4. Finally, if you're going to argue that whites are a superior race, you need to upgrade your writing skills. Seriously, your post is full of incorrect capitalization (or lack thereof), run-on sentences, and empty cliches. Maybe you should take some remedial English classes. Your arguments will still be bigoted bullshit, but at least they won't read as if they were written by a grade schooler.

ignoring your ad hominim attacks you seem to exhibit the soft bigotry of low expectations where Blacks are concerned. I do not suffer from the Social disease of "Political Correctness" I Rather focuse on TRUTH OVER FACE: placing an emphasis on TRUTH over concern for the "Feelings" of Others. I've notices the usual accusation of "Racism" being thrown about whenever this subject comes up; I for one will NOT Kowtow ti that kind of attempted manipulation so common on the Far Left's playbook.
According to the Autopsy report your "Saint Floyd"(the Gold Coffin was a nice touch) Cause of death was not asphyxiation as one would expect from a "knee on his neck" but was high on Methamphetamine and had a Fatal Dose of Fentinol in his system that lead to "wooden chest syndrome the paralysis of the diaphragm The man Did This to himself.

One thing i do NOT See from those on the left is a CALL FOR The Black Community to Take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for Their own Actions, Why is that? Why is it that Blacks are doing so Poorly in inner city's Run for decades By Black Democrats? Why is the Single Motherhood Rate near,y 70% in the Black Community? and Why Was the Black Community Doing BETTER in 1960 than they are doing today after over half a century of Specialized Preferences under Affirmative Action and billions of Dollars invested into the "Black Community"? making them "Overprivilaged" in an attempt to balance the playing field

So you consider it " naked expressions of racism" to ask that because of a Well documented History of Riots going back to the WATTS RIOTS in the 1960's that perhaps they may be 'Marginalized' for a reason?
if you haven't the intestinal fortitude or emotional maturity to discuss social issues without resorting to the knee-jerk hurling the tired old launder list of accusations of "Ists" "ism's " and other overused attempt to deflect from the actual subject. Perhaps it comes down to the Incompatible "Worldview" here is what i see as the major differences between the two.

The Left's Worldview tends to incorporate the following Traits:

Tends to be Collectivist, a focuses on "Social Justice", Looks to the Past, Sees Society as Rigid, thinks Competition is Bad, believes in a powerful State, believes in Redistribution and Regulation, Ignores Rules, has No Standards, sees Testing Measures Failure, tends to be Pessimistic, Seeks Government Protection and when facing the unknown tends to be Fearful.

The Right's World View Tends to incorporate the Following Traits:

Tent to be Individualist, Believes in Individual Justice, Looks To Tee Future, Believe Society is Fluid, tends to thing Competition is Good, Favors Free Markets, and Limited Government, Enforces Rules and has More Rigid Standards, believes Testing Measures Success, tends to be Optimistic Believes in Self Defense and when facing the unknown tends to be Careful.

Perhaps this is where the Divide springs from?
Your Thoughts?

The reason why you get called a racist is because you clearly have a problem with black people.

i have found that i only get called Raciest by those who view the world through the lens of RACE, that would make YOU the RACIEST here pal, just saying...

Rick, I figured that after six days you weren't going to write back, but you have. Much of your reply just rehashes our first exchange. Still, for better or worse, there are a couple of points I feel compelled to respond to -- not because I expect to "change your mind", but because I have to set the record straight.

1. "The man Did This to himself." No. Two good articles about Floyd's autopsy are available here and here. They both reach the same conclusion: while Floyd had drugs in his system when he died, they didn't cause his death. Derek Chauvin did. Read the articles for details.

2. About allegedly left and right-wing traits: a few of these are true IMHO, but most of them are overly generalized because they can be held by people on either side. Also, a couple of them just seem wrong to me. The left "Ignores Rules"? Tell it to Donald Trump, who spends a lot of time trying to ensure that he and his wealthy allies can do whatever they want, no matter who gets hurt, despite pesky laws and regulations. The left "Looks to the Past" and "tends to be Pessimistic"? Sometimes, but for the most part progressives are trying to create a better future for everyone, even their opponents. Meanwhile, Trump's presidency is fueled not by optimism, but fear of the Other ("Mexican rapists", Muslims, blacks, LGBTQ people, etc.) and anger at so-called "American carnage", plus a desire to return to a past world where white guys didn't face as many challenges to their power and status. The right "when facing the unknown tends to be Careful"? Consider Trump's reckless response to COVID-19, which consists of ignoring the pandemic as much as possible to keep the economy going. Oh, and Trump is still helping corporate polluters who create climate change; that's no way to look to "Tee Future"! To sum up: this "traits" stuff is mostly wrong.

3. About ad hominem attacks: you mean like accusing someone of lacking "intestinal fortitude or emotional maturity"? The stuff I said about you is nothing to compared to the stuff you say about African-Americans. Please note that I agree with TabazanCoyote 100%.

4. Finally, your writing has actually gotten worse since last time. Please stop with the overused catchphrases and the Random capitalization Of every Other word; they make your posts hard to read. Between that and the angry ranting, I have to wonder if you were drinking while you were writing.

As to the Left / Right worldviews i used "tends to incorporate the following Traits" to be a generalization.
Your statement " Meanwhile, Trump's presidency is fueled not by optimism, but fear of the Other" i am going to have to disagree here he had the Best Economy on record, Highest employment of 'minorities' at any time, Forward looking plans with the project Artemis Rebuilding the infrastructure there is a ton of optimism what do you think the entire Make America Great Again thing was all about? it is about putting America First, and until this Chinese Virus hit things were pretty damn good for us working people. Trumps Response was to STOP people from infected areas of China from coming into the country, the DEMS and Media called that "XENOPHOBIC AND RACIST" believe what you will but will, You have Black Lives Matter who's focus is Looking BACK on the imagined outrage of "400 years of Slavery" on your side forcing you to kneel over your imagined white guilt and the coming Guilt tax of "Reparations"
We have ELON MUSK on ours and we are moving into the Future instead of being shackled by the past if this country is SOOO RACIST, than please explain why thousands of people from all over the world risk Everything to come here? I REJECT the leftist White Guilt narrative of systematic oppression. because there are far too many BLACK MILLIONAIRE'S AND BILLIONAIRE'S successful entrepreneurs and business owners that would NOT exist if your story of "Systematic oppression" were true as it disprove your implied Racist narrative it just does Not wash in the face of Reality. sorry kid try living in the REAL WORLD away from, your college indoctrination and try starting your own business

Since neither of us is going to change the other's mind, I decided to comment on just one thing here.

"the imagined outrage of '400 years of Slavery'" Imagined outrage? It sounds like you're saying that slavery literally never happened. Surely that's not what you mean, right? Please clarify.

no, i am saying that you can Not have "400 years of slavery" in a country that is only 244 years old. simple LOGIC should tell you this. If you hold the premise that slavery was in fashion in at the founding of the country in 1776 than it was outlawed in 1862 Meaning SLAVERY ONLY EXISTED FOR 86 YEARS Ergo the Claim of "400 years of slavery" in this country is an unmitigated FRAUD!
That is TRUTH OVER FACE anyone pushing anything other than the TRUTH is a Race Hustler with their hand out. As a sidenote the Bogus "1619 project" has been debunked by actual historians as nothing but a fiction to enable a con. Here is a bit of ACTUAL HISTORY you will never read in your Revisionist history books. The first slaves imported into the American colonies were 100 White children. They arrived during Easter, 1619, four months before the arrival of a the first shipment of Black slaves. Mainstream histories refer to these laborers as "indentured servants", not slaves, because many agreed to work for a set period of time in exchange for land and rights.

Yet in reality, indenture was enslavement, since slavery applies to any person who is bought and sold, chained and abused, whether for a decade or a lifetime. Many white people died long before their indenture ended or found that no court would back them when their owners failed to deliver on promises.Tens of thousands of convicts, beggars, homeless children and other undesirable English, Scottish, and Irish lower class were transported to America against their will to the Americas on slave ships. YES SLAVE SHIPS.

Many of the white slaves were brought from Ireland, where the law held that it was "no more sin to kill an Irishman than a dog or any other brute." The European rich class caused a lot of suffering to these people , even if they were white like them. In 1676, there was a huge slave rebellion in Virginia.

I've heard of indentured servitude, and no one is ignoring or defending it.

There is a massive difference between "not getting it" and simply not bending the knee and repeating the same mantra you are fed by social media and corporations that never cared about any of us.

Who is us?

The general public. Or if you prefer it that way the consumer.

What is the issue with saying that 'black lives matter', then? You managed to fit a load of herrings in your comment about bending the knee, corporations, and social media, without actually telling us what it is you think you get.

Hi. I just want to make one little suggestion here...
https://www.furaffinity.net/control.....roubletickets/

Report me for what exactly? Daring to think with my brain and not mindlessly agree with everything?

I think it's funnier if you don't know.

Go on spreading racist and alt-right propaganda on FA and DA (Látlak!) for the purpose of promoting bigotry and violence against peaceful dark-skinned Americans and their allies, and people will call you racist and alt-right and you won't know why. More and more people will block you and you won't know why. Eventually you'll say something so racist that it'll get you banned from FA and DA (maybe even YouTube), just like you've already been suspended from Twitter, and you won't know why.

But I know. And ECRI knows. And ERRC knows. And Orbán knows.

And if you expect me to believe that you don't know, I think that's pretty funny. Or if you genuinely don't know, that's even funnier.

I'm going to block you now. I bet you won't know why. And that's hilarious!

Ah Stevey my boy, one day you'll realise how much shit you talk. Maybe.

The issue is the hipocrisy on display. People love to chant it but if a black disagrees they have no issue turning on that person. Or the fact that these rioters destroy the livelyhood of other blacks. Where is their lives supposed to matter in the grand scheme of things? Or what about David Dorn the black police chief who was shot by the rioters?
Just belching out "black lives matter" is meaningless if the people behind it are violent and have no respect for human lives.

We all bleed red so what does skin colour matter?

Yes. Otherwise slavery wouldn't have happened, redlining wouldn't have happened, the civil rights movement wouldn't have been necessary, Stonewall wouldn't have happened, the constant murder of black folx wouldn't have happened, and so on.

I feel you mean well by your comment, and that's appreciated. But to say this undermines how much different it is to live in the world and be black with the fear that you could get pulled over for a minor infraction and lose your life for it.

You may mean well, but you're naïve. Blacks are mostly killed by other blacks, and very few of them are killed by police officers, and even then many are killed in legitimate self-defense. White people are not responsible for black people's problems, and you can talk about what happened centuries ago, but those events have no relevance today. And BTW, you faced great bigotry for being Irish or Catholic or Jewish decades ago too. Maybe you should do some real research.

Hi there! I'd kindly like to see your resourses and also mention at no point did I say how I identify. So kindly keep those assumptions out of of this conversation. I will happily read any sources you would like to cite for what you claim are facts while calling me naive for no reason. :)

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org.....ers-are-black/

I'm busy at the moment and can't reply right now, but trust in that I will read it and respond. Thank you for your patience!

The site is not at all a reputable source and the article is very victim blamey, I'll just put that out there.

That is good. Trouble is, some people dismiss evidence when it contradicts their beliefs.

Just like You will probably refuse to believe the fact the FBI has found no link to antifa and the looting and rioters, yet HAVE found sources linking back to alt right groups. but you'll just ignore that cause it doesnt fit YOUR bs narrative.
https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi.....rotests-2020-6

Summercucumber: Translation: reality sucks.

Toklankitsune: Probably because your claim is completely without logic? That's like accusing Malcolm X of being in league with the Ku Klux Klan.

That...that's not a credible source at all. It's missing a LOT of the figures it's claiming are on there, it cited the CPD as it's primary source with a broken link, it's a blog post which means it's an opinion piece, it cited data from 2011 and was written in 2016, which was four years ago. Not to mention, it doesn't address how Chicago is a widely segregated city, it's an ENORMOUS city, and I can promise you there were probably unfortunately many more murders than that, coming from someone who grew up next to Chicago and went there often and still goes to the city often to visit family. Using this data as a sweeping assumption that black on black murder is the primary form of murder is incredibly biased and false. If this is considered your real research, then your real research is incredibly faulty and won't give you any basis to stand on in any sort of debate.

And though slavery was abolished in the US (though still exists in other countries) centuries ago as you say, there were SO MANY different laws and feet dragging from states (Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia to name just three of them) to follow with desegregation following the Civil War. When slaves were freed, they were often not welcome in areas, given minimal money, and were put into what were called 'the projects' of many cities which is a term we still use today - low income housing that was hastily and cheaply built, wasn't up to code, and was still in the midst of the 'separate but equal' camp. There were state laws that would actively attempt to keep black people from existing where white people lived, and there are still countless examples out there of black people being killed both by police and civilians when doing things not even close to a crime.

I can go on because I have, in fact, done my research both during my Masters in student developmental psychology and after that because I wanted to be a better read and informed person, but I'm going to stop here. I don't feel as if you have any intent to concede a point other than your own, and I can't trust in the sources you're using if they're all going to be similar to that site you showed me. However if you would like to see just a few of my sources, here you go:
https://www.amazon.com/White-Rage-U...../dp/1536667471
https://www.amazon.com/White-Fragil.....oks&sr=1-1
https://www.amazon.com/History-Unit.....89470&s=books&sprefix=a+queer+histo%2Cstripbooks%2C169&sr=1-1
https://www.amazon.com/Student-Deve.....ch%2C+and+practice&qid=1591489495&s=books&sprefix=student+developmen%2Cstripbooks%2C167&sr=1-2
https://www.amazon.com/Stonewall-Ri.....oks&sr=1-5
https://www.amazon.com/Transgender-.....oks&sr=1-2

What a coincidence-I grew up in Chicagoland too. And I've heard all about slavery and Jim Crow laws-all of which have stopped existing over fifty years ago. I may not have your education, but if you seriously believe black on black murders are NOT the vast majority of murders of blacks in the USA, all I can say is that you've blown your cortex. (Yes, there was a "The Far Side" cartoon with that joke.) Or you had some very bad education. I can assure you a lot of what I learned in school turned out to be wrong. For instance there is no evidence Idi Amin was a cannibal. Also, I was taught in school that manufacturers make it a point to eliminate unnecessary parts in their products to save money. In reality, manufacturers will put in unnecessary parts that do no good and even harm in their products because the customer wants them.

And if you thought I was kidding about "blown cortexes" real scientists have gone goofy in their later years, examples being Nikola Tesla, William Shockley, and Noam Chomsky are examples. Some of us get our knowledge from working in the real world rather than just books, which seems to be your case.

I'm not exactly sure what point you're trying to make anymore? You're judging based on your feelings and personal experiences and I just provided you a lot of sources I use, to which you said "you've blown your cortex." This isn't a discussion based on any semblance of fact so I'm going to remove myself from it and encourage you to have an open mind to things. I took the time to read your source, I won't take the time for you to go based on what you feel and insults.

My point? You read a few books and think you know it all. You don't. I go with the bad education conclusion then.

LMAO. I never said that. Man you like stirring up stuff - your source was a single website and what you felt. I'm done with this, I don't have the patience to defend myself from some random person on the internet when I have nothing to defend.

I just want to make one little suggestion here...
https://www.furaffinity.net/control.....roubletickets/

Nah, I hit that block button. That's more than enough - unless you have a suggestion on the specific part of the TOS that was broken?

https://www.furaffinity.net/coc
Mostly 2.6 and the last two sentences of 2.4

You can throw every scientific credential in my face, but that means nothing. People with scientific degrees can still be wrong,, or dishonest, or yes, they've blown their cortex. I go by real word experience, not crank literature, and your dismissal of my source as "alt-right" only proves your insincerity in your arguments. And that is exactly my point.

LOL suddenly Mr. "facts and numbers" doesn't believe in them anymore. And after criticizing others for not addressing his.... "facts" ...he's suddenly resorts to using ad hominid attacks.
Love watching how you cherry pick what you want to fit your narrative. You're debating like a used car sales man's "wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man", flailing around from one type of argument to the next. Did you actually sell anyone on anything? Or did you just come here to be the center of attention?

I came to tell the truth, nothing more. If you cannot stand me telling me what you don't want to hear, then go cry me a river.

LongTom believes he has a monopoly on the truth. Sorry dude but your actions speak otherwise. Only need to scroll up the thread to see that your the one that wont challenge your own assumptions. You seem to confused the different between your opinion, and the conclusion you want to support with the truth.

Just wanted to say it's (unfortunately) unusual for me to see FA users actually sharing sources for their research. Nice!

I guess that bad education Bachelor's and Master's and my career taught me something! :)

My PhD is in an unrelated (STEM) field instead, so I don't know much about your area. But I've followed your discussions here and they were both informative and professional in my humble opinion. Unfortunately some people will never stop and listen, instead throwing out one unsourced claim after another. So it's good to have people like you pitching in with your own expertise, if only for those observers who may not choose to interact but who will read what you have to say. Either way, I know where my expertise is lacking, and I'll personally take your sourced 'bad education' insights over those of the resident 'anecdotal experts'. Thank you!

Props to Kaevon for such an articulate response and on so much research. I think for your target it was more like pearls before swine, but for the rest of us it was enjoyable to read this and learn a little bit more.

Lol, there you go using that same far-right propaganda website again! You seem to be having difficulty answering basic questions about your sources. For example, where their data (if it exists, which is doubtful) is coming from.

I think he meant 'you' ("you faced great bigotry..") in his last statement as a general term, not *you* specifically. The english language is so much fun sometimes. Mind you, I'm not defending his opinions, just looking to add some clarification.

I meant deep down we're all the same and I judge people by actions not by looks or race.
If you go back far enough white people were also enslaved when the Roman empire swept across Europe.

No one should be in fear of their life just for living so I feel for you.

Love how there is a predictable cycle of bandwagoning but never a constant stream of support which would actually matter. (Where is this big activism when black on black violence kills innocents? Or when blacks are sold into slavery in Afrcia and the Middle East? etc) Every single virtue signaling picture I've seen so far only comes off as souless as the the black square text posts of [insert brand] just for clout chasing.

This 'bandwagon' is how social movements which lead to positive change are always kicked off. We cannot make change happen without widespread support and effort, rather than cynicism.

I see you didn't get my point. Let me explain this again. How many big "movements" did we have so far that only existed for the duration while it was relevant? Way too many. And every single time it is the same outcome. People fake their support for the cause but in actuality couldn't give a flying fuck. It's all for clout, to show how "virtous" they are. And do tell how is it postive to allow criminal scum to loot, arson and murder anyone they wish just beacuse a black man (who was high on drugs and had a criminal record) died?
Chanting "black lives matter" loses all merit the second you see that they have no issue killing blacks (remember David Dorn? figured you didn't) or when they burn down business owned by blacks, ruining said lives and their families. Is this your idea of support and effort?

How many big movements that made progress? The social movements in the US in the 1960s around racial equality made progress, the LGBT movements of the 1980s and 90s made a huge difference, I can walk around with a partner in the city without fear of being attacked now. The stigma of HIV, women's rights and the vote. Do I need to make a huge list of all the times when this has made a huge difference, or are you really that ignorant of history?

When a person that is trusted to uphold the laws of the land kills someone ot makes it much worse than a random person. All murder is bad yes but again someone in power who does it and not so in the interest of the public needs to be held accountable. This along with the fact that a string of them has happened lately shows that POC are more effected.

You'd think furries who are always made fun of for their likes would be able to sympathize rather than victim blame.

Yeah, that's why everybody and his brother and sister condemned the police who killed George Floyd.

A, everybody condemned the murder.
B, don't give me this eternal victimhood crap.

I didn't victim blame (and the fact that you even bring it up proves you didn't even bother to think about what I posted), I'm pointing out the hypocrisy and disingenuine intents on display.
Also who is going to hold the looters, arsonists and murderers accountable after each riot? Your beloved celebrities and left wing political figures who keep bailing them out of jail?

"Where is this big activism... when blacks are sold into slavery in Afrcia [sic] and the Middle East?" We all do what we can, Mate. Anyway, there are people fighting against modern-day slavery. Here's a page that links to dozens of anti-slavery groups: https://www.endslaverynow.org/connect

My point is that this is nothing but peacocking for attention, every single time this happens people just try to squeeze clout for themselves out of it. Once the hype for this passes so will the interest of those people.

I've heard the "virtue signaling" before. It is perpetuated by conservatives who assume that everyone is as selfish and corrupt as they themselves are.

Riiight, because anyone who points out a hypocritical action it must be a dreaded right winger huh? Don't try and brush it off like that because you are doing what you claim to dislike.

First, who are you accusing here? The protesters, or the organizations in the link I posted? Second, all these people are acting on their beliefs, so how are they hypocrites?

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Thank you for the art and making your voice heard.
I'm sure many appreciate it without comment.

Sorry for, you know... *gestures to everything*

This is wonderful

ALL LIVES MATTER.

True. So why is it so hard to accept that black lives matter? A house that's on fire needs water - we're not gonna say "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE HOUSES NOT ON FIRE??? DON'T THEY NEED WATER TOO???" No. No they don't at this moment.

America is a unique place. It's a crazy, beautiful city where we celebrate our differences. This is not the America I know. The America I know is better than this. We don't just blindly assume blame. We know who the true culprits are who committed the crimes which ignited this unjustified rage & hatred already and they have been properly punished; but it is irresponsible to label all police and authorities as savages. We cannot let paranoia divide us. Please, give me back the America we love.

Thank you for keeping your response still sincere! I do appreciate that, honestly. Unfortunately, there's a long history of keeping people of color, particularly black people, from being successful in this country. Post civil war, desegregation faced countless obstacles over and over again from states, the country, and individuals to prevent black people from making it in the country. And any attempt to be successful was quickly ran out of town. I don't want to list all the sources I've read on this, but White Rage, White Fragility, A Queer History of the United States, and Stonewall were some of the books I read that informed me a lot on the unfortunate history that our country was built on.

We CAN make a difference with what's going on, but we all have to educate ourselves on what brought us here and I've been doing the best I can.

White people have faced discrimination as well. People with autism have been discriminated against too. LGBT have been discriminated against. More to list as well. There have also been when blacks and others of color have discriminated against their own kind just as whites have. It has been apparent since LONG before America has ever existed.

There is the fact that we need to trust in trust and find compromise. Ironically, the side raging against racism is the side who started it in America. The liberals were the Confederates and they have not learned from their mistakes. Instead they are DOUBLING down on it. They want to place blacks and other groups (including LGBT, women, and autistics) ABOVE everyone instead of on the same level. They do not care for equality. What's more is what they think is their greatest strengths (when it is really one of their biggest weaknesses and one of the reasons they feel empowered to get away with such cruelty) is the fact that THEY DON'T TRUST ANYONE; especially their own and the very people they claim to be doing all this in the name of, and are willing to turn on them at a moment's notice if it will benefit them in even the smallest fashion. There is NO way a group formed on that mindset can sustain itself, especially long-term.

I will stop you to question why you chose to group 'LGBT, Women, and autistics' together? That seems like a very confusing group. The point isn't to place other groups above white men, it's to raise them to the same level - which they haven't been. And I'm not making a comment on conservatives vs liberals at all, so I'm going to completely avoid that considering I have plenty of #feelings on the political party structure of the US. I will say to say the Liberals were the Confederates is a very loaded and misleading statement considering how political party alignments have changed over time (i.e. there used to be 2 then 3 then 4 then 2 then 4 then 2 parties in the US). It's like the equality vs equity vs liberation picture you can find here: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/.....e=image%2Fjpeg

And you're correct! Other groups of people with varying identities have faced mass discrimination, that's unfortunately very true! However, there's a theory/concept called intersectionality coined by Kimberle Crenshaw that states how the intersection or overlapping of identities creates varying experiences of prejudice and bias. It's not a race over who is put down the most, but to what extent are different people put down by different aspects of the world. For example - I'm white! Very very white. Does that mean I have privilege? Yes! Does that mean I'm only white? No! I have a physical health condition that severely impacts my life, and I'm on the LGBTQ spectrum. Those two factors carry with them a combined lack of advantages compared to other white people. Now consider someone who is black. Now consider someone who is black and a woman. Now considered someone who is black, a woman, and has a physical condition that limits their movement. Instead of just one category of minority identities that will face discrimination, there are three! It's not a race to see who's in a bad position or not - it's the idea of "Hey, black lives do matter. Also, that system that puts down black people also puts down women! And people with physical/mental concerns! And people who don't have the money to seek college degrees that are a stopgap for getting jobs!" It's not a fight by any means, and the BLM movement is about raising awareness that black folx have disproportionately suffered in a system where they have to deal with police violence and brutality.

There needs to be a balance.

While one cannot deny that rules and regulations are necessary to preserve peace; but as a bird whose wings are clipped cannot fly, those who subject themselves to a life under the iron fist of law would never enjoy the freedom of mind and the right to achieve their own hopes and dreams. While such a life of survival-of-the-fittest would be quite alluring, overflowing with the excitement and exhilaration that naturally comes from such unfettered freedom; said freedom born from chaos would also give birth to never-ending conflicts and competition, no one would be able to live in peace or contentment.

One must not attempt to pursue (or subject themselves to) either extreme; as in the end, it will only produce sorrow. It is only through balance that happiness is obtained. While difficult to achieve, it is important to strive for.

Jesus, some of the comments on here. Sorry, Tani. You’re picture is lovely and heart felt.

Pure, absolute drivel.

Pure, absolute reality. Deal.

Fantastic work Tani. 💜

FA comments never fail to disappoint.

Epic Explanation.
I wish I'd find the youtube video from some hollywood star where he explains that very, very emotionally.

Also, you could add an arctic fox and a sand colored fennec, to cover all foxes of the world!

The last thing we want to hear from are limousine liberals. Don't bother.

Oh, it sounded very sincere.
It was both emotional - which an actor should be easy to show off - but it was also LOGICAL! - and that's something that's a LOT harder these days.

"That's why it's called 'acting'." A line from the movie "Team America: World Police", whose purpose was to mock certain know-it-all actors who think they are noble and sophisticated, but aren't. It's not the Kardashians who are the only stupid ones.

I think the goal of this piece was to show morphs of the red fox (fur color being more akin to skin color), rather than various species of foxes.

Hmm... I thought along the line of "Foxes unite!" or "All the foxes of the world".
I gotta check the relations....

Woooha:

Rotfuchs
Birkfuchs
Kohlfuchs
Kreuzfuchs
Silberfuchs
Perlfuchs
Blaufuchs.

That is a LOT of variation for our colleague Vulpes vulpes!

Awesome art Tani! You're a kind soul in this world.

Very uplifting...
And cute! <3

I was just made aware of the direction that this comments section went in... The 'all lives matter' thing is ridiculously tone-deaf, and usually, from white males, I notice. Saying that 'black lives matter' does not belittle the fact that all lives, do in fact, matter; it is merely pointing out inequality. Black people are not treated the same as white people by the police, by the economy, basically by the entire system that they live under, therefore this deserves our attention. It is something that we need to fix, and shouting 'aLl liVes mAtTeR' is doing no good at all.

Thank god someone gets it.

>> shouting 'aLl liVes mAtTeR' is doing no good at all.
Mmkay, now I'm wondering how shouting "black lives matter" helps?

Shouting 'all lives matter' literally means nothing, there is no social movement or inequality that it points out. The black lives matter statements allude to a social movement in response to the stunning inequality in the US and elsewhere right now. It has the same purpose as the LGBT and women's rights movements had in the years gone by.

Christ the mount of willfully ignorant chuds on this site is staggering.
Either way, thank you, Tani. This is a very nice piece.

This is lovely, diversity is beautiful! #blacklivesmatter

This is beautiful, and thank you!

I expected controversy and arguing in the comments, I wasn't disappointed

Mean I like the animal drawings.

I just mean I understand that blacks had a horrible history in the past and how they were treated and they should be equal and have opportunity and freedom like everyone in the free country, and yeah I kinda know where your coming from you want to fix and change things but I guess fear this movement is going to get the idea of what we want wrong and sorry if I kinda shaken when seeing it on twitter.

It shouldn't matter what race or color your skin is or even animal for that matter were all living beings, but these sick corrupt media keeps bringing this up and they want anarchy and hurt our country. And I feel like it make all police look bad there are bad police but all of them bad? https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9514490/

Well, BLM is racism. I doesnt care about Skin color. And about the situation i dont see a racist action about the police in the USA. The Officer was to hard with the action and a criminal dark skinned people died. Police officer is arrested and the world freaks out. G. Floyd was not a good guy, he was criminal.

But currently the people thinks the police a complete racism because they shoot on dark skinned ppl. ehm No.. its wrong. Police killed more light skinned people as dark skinned.

Yeah some ppl can be racist, but its less ppl. And mostly dont have problems, Aprove Barack Obama was President...

Its downright frightening some of the utterly disparaging commentary that plays out on a post that adresses the shit far to many people simply want to pretend is posturing. Thank you for doing this Tani *smallbows*

Hell yeah.

This song predates Black Lives Matter by decades, but now you know what the movement is really about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu1vrb-cvwU

It would be nice to know what Ice-T has to say nowadays. I heard he has acted in several police-themed television shows.

People understand perfectly. It's people like you who are the real haters and bigots.

^^ Most accurate reply on this post.

LMFAO! Holy hell, I cannot love your snipe of a comment enough. Something's wrong in the head with that MF, for real.

Dont worry your turn is coming :) also the number of outright racists on here right now is mindblowing.

As the old saw goes, "A racist is a conservative who is winning an argument."

Such a great pic, such... hate and lack of thought and compassion in the comments though, Youd think people would understand by now, especially over these last few weeks. Proof that theres a lot to still be done.

These fucking comments. All Lives Matter makes about as much sense as "End Heterosexual Genocide". White people aren't subject to racial profiling, police brutality and harsh prison sentences for drug possession (which is not something anyone should go to prison for, for that matter) disproportionately. White people aren't smeared as "thugs" or "gangbangers' whenever they run around with assault rifles. If George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery and Brianna Taylor were white, they would not have been killed. I guarantee that.

All Lives Matter is pretty much a statement of utter apathy at best, an admission that black people deserve systematic racism at worst.

God are you naïve. Most people in prisons are in fact violent hardened criminals, and yes, more white people are killed by police than blacks. You need to get out more.

Wrong. Prison sentences in the US are done for a variety of different "crimes", not just violent ones. America has the highest incarceration rate on the planet, with black men being incarcerated the most. This is the result of the "War on Drugs", which was largely an excuse to put black people in prison. The solution to this incarceration rate is two-fold. 1) End institutional racism and 2) do away with the concept of "drug crimes". Smoking crack rocks is not in anyway equivalent to murder.

That's because there are more whites in America, when you take statistical odds into account, the chances of being killed by a cop increase if you're not white.

Good God what a fucking stupidass you are. You believe Elvis Presley is still alive too?

The truth, which you deny, is the fact that most criminals in prison are violent criminals. Black people are not the majority of prisoners because of any supposed "institutional racism", it's because they commit most of the crimes, and it's not smoking crack. You can come up with all the cockamamie conspiracy theories you like, but everything I say stands. Black people have far more reason to fear their fellow gangbangers than they do any police.

'Good God what a fucking stupidass you are' - Wow, can you not support your own argument without including logical fallacies every single time? Tell me, you have stated that you're 'very educated', and you clearly think that anyone with a different opinion in stupid; what is it that you do for a living that makes you so much smarter, so much more qualified to have this opinion than other people in this comments section? By the way, you are calling people stupid who work in science and statistics, whilst doing nothing yourself to provide any of either to support your claims.

Ever heard the story of Tycho Brahe, a brilliant scientist who refused to believe that the Earth travelled around the Sun, and even came up with a very elaborate mathematical proof that the Sun and planets travelled around the Earth. Problem is, his student Johannes Kepler found a very tiny error which invalidated this proof. So scientists can be wrong too, and it so happens that new scientific theories are accepted not because people with old beliefs change their minds, but because they die out. I may not be brilliant, but it's obvious to see when someone sounds ridiculous in the way they out things.

I once had a coworker who was convinced of a massive conspiracy by the CIA to assassinate President Kennedy, despite the fact that no proof exists and overwhelming proof exists that it really was Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone, and that if Kennedy were not assassinated he would have died soon anyway of Addison's disease (not publicly known at the time). The Piltdown Man was an obvious hoax, but due to political reasons, scientists wanted to believe it was real. People believe in Sasquatch and the Loch Ness monster, too. Vampires don't exist, yet the Twilight stories are so popular.

In other words, people WANT to believe that blacks are in jail because of some massive conspiracy against them and not because of their bad behavior. Easier to find an outside scapegoat than realize it's your own fault. There is/was even a website called "itsnotyourfault", which tells people what they want to hear. You yourself have dismissed evidence that refutes what you want to believe too.

Long Tom: I would suggest reading some of the papers and documentation from J.Edgar Hoover's operation of the FBI even into the early '70s. You may not believe this but there was active suppression of blacks, especially those of the original Black Panthers and Malcolm X in order to present only the worst possible image of those people and their efforts. Worse, they and anyone that supported them were harassed to the point of bankruptcy and worse to prevent any of the supporters of these groups from receiving handouts and other publications supporting PEACEFUL protest. Quite literally, the whole image of the 70s riots was propaganda intended to make black people into "animals" rather than real people to the American public. The facts are there and they refute your claims.

Ah, somebody is taking this issue seriously, rather than just making childish screaming. Well, I have a few responses. For one the FBI didn't just investigate the political left; the Ku Klux Klan got investigated too, as undoubtedly did the John Birch society and others. Second, Jim Crow and other such laws were already being repealed during the 1960's; the riots came afterward. It was the Nation Of Islam who assassinated Malcolm X, probably because he was breaking away from them. The Black Panthers were as much a hate organization as the KKK and committed violence too. Also, it wasn't blacks who were doing all the rioting; plenty of white student protesters were doing to same thing. In fact, the Hard Hat Riot of 1970 was by construction workers against those people, not against blacks. It helps to know the whole picture of that era; you might be in for some surprises. Such as most college students having nothing to do with the political movements of that time.

The biggest problem with Black Lives Matter is that some few believe that means, "ONLY Black Lives Matter." It is a perceptual problem, not a real one. Black lives DO matter but the rebuttal that "All Lives Matter" is read as trying to belittle that belief. I used to suffer the same false perception and this most recent issue has brought out information long suppressed through this country's highest levels of law enforcement. Yes, racism was politically enabled and newly released documents from the FBI prove it.

It's time to stop dividing this country and bring it together as it never has been before.

If all lives mattered we would not have chronically underfunded public schools in predominantly black communities, let alone poor white communities, a lack of African history in education, a profound lack of access to healthy food in poor communities, a lack of real job training let alone no good jobs that pay a living wage. If all lives mattered gay kids or even perceived gay kids would not be killed by their parents let alone the murder of transgender people of color. A profound lack of access to health care. the problems go beyond police brutality it's across the board.

A lot more whites are killed by blacks rather than the other way around. And being educated is called "acting white" when you're in the ghetto. Yes, I heard reports from real ghetto kids,

spare me your preaching, 40 something year old that did not carry the torch and grew up sheltered, my parents fought the fight in the 60's and I will carry on that fight. but if you don't don't want to don't care too, thats on you sugar, that says more about you and you're values then mine big man! Not to mention you know nothing and are already stuck in a narrative formulated by your own environment and generation.

This ain't the '60's, and things are very damn different today. Don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs.

I don't say this lightly and I did not ask for your two cents, since clearly we do not agree, and you have nothing of substance to add to any meaningful conversation worth consideration. I would advise you to refrain from posting points of personal opinion that will result in the harm of your character.

My character involves telling facts, not opinions. Just because the truth offends does not make it untrue.

Then prove your facts with empirical data given by trusted sources rather than an opinion piece on an alt right website. Numbers. Use them. Shut up until you can. Seriously

I provided facts, but you people simply dismissed them as "alt-right". So I know proving anything to you is a waste of time-and you should shut up yourselves, since you never prove anything you say. Where are your numbers? Your proof from trusted sources? Pathetic hypocrite.

Great picture, lousy comment section though, I expected this site to be more opened-minded about this sorta thing.

As the old saw goes, the problem with an open mind is that there are people who want to throw garbage in it.

That is definitely true.

You can stop proving it now.

No, you have. People like you know nothing about race.

#Foxlivesmatter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkY.....uEw&t=123s

You know, I commented earlier, but since then some new information has come to light, so disregard my last comment

I am PROUD of BLM, because of regardless of the police brutality they face, they are still doing their damnedest to peacefully protest.

The rioting is not nessecarally thier fault. It's bad agents taking advantage of the situation to cause chaos and destruction. It's opportunists hiding in the shadows to grab free stuff. Blm as a whole are doing the right thing. They are making thier voices heard largely peacefully, and they have my support.

As for police brutality. I've now heard stories and seen videos cropping up of police batoning somebody who was tazed already, grabbing people by the neck and throwing them to the ground, knocking people over and arresting people for no reason, and packing them into cells like sardines with no access to water, sanitation, or medical needs. They are even arresting CHILDREN!!

We need to think about some serious changes to policing in this country. The over zealous actions off officers hurt and kill indiscriminately, but especially in the black community. Something NEEDS to be done about this, and soon.