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There is a certain topic that I had been holding back on. I wasn't sure how to discuss it in terms that non-religious people might understand. But now I may have figured it out.
There are groups who supposedly advocate for autistic people -- but, in fact, wish these people were never born. Such people would wish that I had been killed in the womb. How can we condemn such eugenics -- without it being a matter of personal taste?
If these words still don't click with you, then think about this: What if Twilight had broken Spike's egg -- instead of hatching it? Would we have lost a life? Or would there have been no tragedy? And what about that phoenix egg that Spike rescued from Garble and his gang? If that egg had been broken, would it -- in fact -- have been no big deal?
I don't have to be a conservative to make these arguments. They naturally arise from liberal principles, too.
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If anyone wants to have a dialog, feel free to message me. This way, we don't cause drama on an art page.
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Some people think that children on the autism spectrum should be terminated before they are born.
I was reading a blog post that condemns Autism Speaks. And the writer said, “Wiping out a group of people by stopping them
from being born is genocide.”
There's just one problem ...
The same writer said — moments earlier — “I'm pretty pro-choice, if you don't want a baby, don't have
one ... .”
Well — which is it? Is an unborn child human — or not?
If not, then there's no genocide — no clear reason to complain.
But if an unborn child is human ...
... then it's not just genocide. We're watching the mass murder of our own people (aka “democide”)!
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Drawings by pridark; drawings © M. Wayne Howell (me) and pridark. Characters © and ™ M. Wayne Howell.
Rocket Pop © astroluxtype (https://www.myfonts.com/foundry/Astrolux/).
There are groups who supposedly advocate for autistic people -- but, in fact, wish these people were never born. Such people would wish that I had been killed in the womb. How can we condemn such eugenics -- without it being a matter of personal taste?
If these words still don't click with you, then think about this: What if Twilight had broken Spike's egg -- instead of hatching it? Would we have lost a life? Or would there have been no tragedy? And what about that phoenix egg that Spike rescued from Garble and his gang? If that egg had been broken, would it -- in fact -- have been no big deal?
I don't have to be a conservative to make these arguments. They naturally arise from liberal principles, too.
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If anyone wants to have a dialog, feel free to message me. This way, we don't cause drama on an art page.
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Poster Text:
Some people think that children on the autism spectrum should be terminated before they are born.
I was reading a blog post that condemns Autism Speaks. And the writer said, “Wiping out a group of people by stopping them
from being born is genocide.”
There's just one problem ...
The same writer said — moments earlier — “I'm pretty pro-choice, if you don't want a baby, don't have
one ... .”
Well — which is it? Is an unborn child human — or not?
If not, then there's no genocide — no clear reason to complain.
But if an unborn child is human ...
... then it's not just genocide. We're watching the mass murder of our own people (aka “democide”)!
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Drawings by pridark; drawings © M. Wayne Howell (me) and pridark. Characters © and ™ M. Wayne Howell.
Rocket Pop © astroluxtype (https://www.myfonts.com/foundry/Astrolux/).
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In the interest of sending a constructive message, I removed the "holocaust" tag.
As I understand it, being "pro-choice" means not recognizing an unborn child as human (or saying it's okay to kill them anyway). There is a continuum, though. Some people may be "pro-life" about the third trimester, for example -- while "pro-choice" before that point.
As I understand it, being "pro-choice" means not recognizing an unborn child as human (or saying it's okay to kill them anyway). There is a continuum, though. Some people may be "pro-life" about the third trimester, for example -- while "pro-choice" before that point.
I would say "pro-choice" is a misleading term. I believe a woman has the same rights over her body as a man does for his. For me, the question is simply when the material for a baby becomes an actual human (thus becoming their own body). If we drop the terms "pro-life" and "pro-choice", I think most of us would find we have a remarkable amount of common ground.
You say it's human when it's viable outside the womb. If that is what many pro-choice people actually believe, then I apologize for possibly building a strawman. As for me, I believe it becomes a human no later than when the fetus starts to move.
For me, the question is this: When does the baby gain a soul? Is there a soul once the egg is fertilized? When the egg is properly implanted? Once the fetus starts to resemble a baby? Once the baby starts to move (or is about to)? Since you don't share my religion, my question may not make sense to you.
Just to be clear -- the poster is not actually focused on my religious beliefs. It is focused on the moral inconsistency some people show over early (or middle) terminations of pregnancy. Namely, they wouldn't have wanted to be aborted -- but are often fine if others are. This shortsightedness helps to build credibility for my own position.
For me, the question is this: When does the baby gain a soul? Is there a soul once the egg is fertilized? When the egg is properly implanted? Once the fetus starts to resemble a baby? Once the baby starts to move (or is about to)? Since you don't share my religion, my question may not make sense to you.
Just to be clear -- the poster is not actually focused on my religious beliefs. It is focused on the moral inconsistency some people show over early (or middle) terminations of pregnancy. Namely, they wouldn't have wanted to be aborted -- but are often fine if others are. This shortsightedness helps to build credibility for my own position.
Very interesting way to relate the topic to something that isn't political. You make it more about the ethics / morals of how each person interprets moments from MLP and concepts of eliminating those lives that are 'pre-diagnosed' in utero.
'Autism Speaks' has been well-spoken for in the 'Spectrum' community. What is bad, at last I was informed, is how 'Autism Speaks' keeps insisting on 'finding a cure' when, truly, there is more need to cure the way so-called 'normal people' view those diagnosed on the spectrum.
Many people on the spectrum are brilliant and capable. The trick is finding out how to best interact with each person with Spectrum diagnoses instead of stereotyping them all under a single blanket belief.
For example, Spectrum is associated with inability to fend for one's self along with lacking intelligence. There are extreme cases where spectrum can reduce the learning ability of the one who has it. However there are also countless ways to help these people live strong and fulfilling lives. The trouble is lack of funding and poor reception from 'normal people' makes this impossible due to ill-conceived, man-made falsehoods.
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I often do think of how, given how I am viewed with my condition, how I'm lucky to be alive. I could have easily been just sent to a pointless life in Life Skills and, soon after, tossed into a care facility to rot for the rest of my days...
...Fortunately my parents never gave up on seeing that me and my sister could be more than a throwaway. Sure I am not successful in a professional / career sort of way. However, to me, I would like to believe that I have contributed to humanity through my efforts to advocate for myself while aiding in uniting others under a common banner for a better tomorrow.
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So, given your examples of Spike's egg being smashed and Spike almost smashing the Phoenix egg, the issue comes down to, "Can you live knowing you ruined a life before it even began?". Adoption came about for those who are unable to care for a child and there are lots of good families who would welcome that life into the world while nurturing it towards their full potential.
I know people who have had abortions and they often struggle with 'what might have been'. I try to believe in the lost soul finding a way to another body. Though, sadly, most who 'make the choice' do not do so without both short and long term mental trauma at how a life never came into being.
'Autism Speaks' has been well-spoken for in the 'Spectrum' community. What is bad, at last I was informed, is how 'Autism Speaks' keeps insisting on 'finding a cure' when, truly, there is more need to cure the way so-called 'normal people' view those diagnosed on the spectrum.
Many people on the spectrum are brilliant and capable. The trick is finding out how to best interact with each person with Spectrum diagnoses instead of stereotyping them all under a single blanket belief.
For example, Spectrum is associated with inability to fend for one's self along with lacking intelligence. There are extreme cases where spectrum can reduce the learning ability of the one who has it. However there are also countless ways to help these people live strong and fulfilling lives. The trouble is lack of funding and poor reception from 'normal people' makes this impossible due to ill-conceived, man-made falsehoods.
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I often do think of how, given how I am viewed with my condition, how I'm lucky to be alive. I could have easily been just sent to a pointless life in Life Skills and, soon after, tossed into a care facility to rot for the rest of my days...
...Fortunately my parents never gave up on seeing that me and my sister could be more than a throwaway. Sure I am not successful in a professional / career sort of way. However, to me, I would like to believe that I have contributed to humanity through my efforts to advocate for myself while aiding in uniting others under a common banner for a better tomorrow.
***
So, given your examples of Spike's egg being smashed and Spike almost smashing the Phoenix egg, the issue comes down to, "Can you live knowing you ruined a life before it even began?". Adoption came about for those who are unable to care for a child and there are lots of good families who would welcome that life into the world while nurturing it towards their full potential.
I know people who have had abortions and they often struggle with 'what might have been'. I try to believe in the lost soul finding a way to another body. Though, sadly, most who 'make the choice' do not do so without both short and long term mental trauma at how a life never came into being.
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