Really interesting you got there,Also what's Watership Down

Dark movie about rabbits. It's meant for kids but it can be scary for them.

How dark are we talking

I haven't seen it but I think it might be "Return to Oz" levels of dark? Kid-friendly, light-hearted in general with several scary moments. It was originally a book, BTW.

Watership Down is one of three "children's" movies that are notoriously bloody, dark and scary. Plague Dogs, about two infected dogs who escape from a disease lab and are hunted, Watership Down, about two rabbit warrens fighting to the death, and Grave Of The Fireflies, about two orphan children trying to survive in the ruins of nuked Hiroshima are all pretty bleak.

For some reason this is just remind me of animals of the farthing Woods

Actually yes, that was the one I forgot. Animals of Farthing Wood is the third of three super grim children's works featuring talking animals.

Any reason why would anyone make that

It had a story to tell and the story wasn’t a happy one.

i see..What was your actual favorite movie that was not dark

That features talking animals? Zootopia. Among all movies? GOTG1, I can have it on the background a couple of times a week and not complain.

What is GOTG1?

Guardians of the Galaxy 1.

Alright just wondering

That's a common description but Grave of the Fireflies actually takes place in and around Kobe, which in some ways was worse than Hiroshima. It was firebombed twice, with casualty numbers approaching that of Hiroshima's before the war's end. Gets even worse when you realize the story is semi-autobiographical - it's based on a real incident during the war.

I haven't seen it myself. In fact I haven't seen any of the super bleak ones I mentioned, unless I maybe saw Watership Down as a kid. I was traumatized enough by old horror movies as a kid, I didn't need animated ones too. 83

Heh. I'm a horror fan (of certain kinds of horror - slashers don't interest me much). Everyone talks about the animated Watership Down but it struck me as way more of a horror story than the book was. Not to mention the casting folks must have been on drugs - their comic relief for a supposed kid's movie was ZERO MOSTEL?! The book was, frankly, far better and far more balanced toward optimism vs. cynicism.

Grave of the Fireflies is essentially an autobiography for the director, save for one important and obvious thing: He survived (while his expy in the movie did not). It was his way of putting his survivor's guilt to good use, and that's why it is so unremittingly bleak. The funny (as in black humor) part is that it's held up as one of the greatest anti-war movies of all time, even though the director never intended to make an anti-war piece. (He wasn't exactly pro-war, but he didn't intend it to be a political statement).

Actually started out as a book, which I have a copy of.

I personally like to think of myself as a 3/4 feral... Sapient, can talk, can use forepaws as hands, but still walks on all fours almost always and has a feral body shape.

I ran out of room for text or I would have pointed out that morphology is a spectrum. Some ferals are almost semi-feral, some semi-ferals are almost anthro, etc. Feral, Semi-Feral and Anthro are convenient labels but not hard and fast rules.

Two of the Maker's three peoples (the praka and the gul) have all three morphologies represented in their populations. Being a full feral is a slight disadvantage but ferals do certain things better than semi-ferals or anthros.

Yeah, there are only so many morphologies you can put into a picture before it becomes ridiculous. I just like to have the advantages of an anthro while having the body shape of a feral.

Yes this is perfect for explaining semi ferals

That was the idea.

i have literally bent over forwards and backwards in trying to explain it to some people but this makes it so much easier

very nice work with these explanations, another good example of semi ferals could be the Redwall series, and for anthros the Beastar anime

That looks right. I never read Redwall for whatever reason, I think it came out after I aged out of kid's books and I would have rooted for the "vermin" anyway. 83

heheh, i never actually readed them either, i just saw a (very very very) old clip of a snake villain that seemingly ate a rat (it cuts to black, it doesnt really show it) and found out that it was a cartoon adaptation of an (even older) book franchise.

Wanna know a interesting detail? there are 22 Redwall books, and the only reason why there aren't more it's because the writer died after finishing the last one.

That aside, i really like the semi-feral designs of the characters in the cartoon, that's why the moment i readed your semi-ferals description i inmediatly remembered that show.

Another semi feral example i could think of would be the Charr race in gw2, sin they are basically anthropomorpic cats that walk on two legs (yet keep their digitigrade design), use weapons, and while being able to run in two legs they favor all fours when their hands are free. (i think this is the only mmorpg out there with an actual semi-feral playable race)

Any creature that can run on all fours but stand up to work in a human way is probably semi-feral. Zootopia critters, Rocket Raccoon, Skyrim werewolves (who run just fine on all fours) are all semi-feral. Charr do the same thing. To make a critter semi-feral, leave the body long, probably narrow side to side and wide front to back like a quadruped's, and make the arms and legs the same length.

Nice explanation about semi-feral animals! I wanna borrow it for a fanwork about therianthropes, using a semi-feral design for their hybrid form (I think therianthropes can shift between fully human, fully animal, and a hybrid form used for self-defence as a best of both worlds).

Therianthropes in many settings have several forms: human, animal, and were-animal, sometimes with variations between the forms or different sizes for the animal shapes. Wererats can sometimes turn into normal sized or giant rats, for example. And yes, feel free to borrow it.

Thanks!