A friend of mine was moving and he was going to throw away these 2. They where none functional. I replaced the fuses and now have them working they where damaged. They still need a lot of cleaning. I have order a SD2IEC+ from The Future Was 8 Bit so I can download all of the old games and play them. Now the only thing i need to take care of is that it is a pal version. His Dad was Air Force and got it when he was station in England. The best thing is I got them for free and had spars fuses from the Vic-20 restoration I did.