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It's the weekly Lil'Prophets'N'Deities Potluck and Debate. Lil'M and Lil'J are engaged in the standard "How much responsibility does someone bare for actions done in their name if the actions go against everything you told people to do" they default to whenever no one can think of anything. Lil'G's been tasked with the research for the week, Lil'M's trying to think of something to say he hasn't said a hundred times before. Lil'B's wandered off and gotten distracted as he tends to do, Lil'C looks on. And Lil'A thinks the whole thing is a little silly, but sure is glad that the boys continue to get together so often.
I'll be honest. This is how I view Heaven. Or at least one of the fields in it. If you come back around 5:00, The good Baron is giving dancing lessons.
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At first, I wasn't going to take part in Draw Mohamed Day, but then I remembered that I'd been wanting to draw something like this piece for the longest ass time. So I should do it now. Remember, like the Lil'ones, while we may disagree on specifics, everyone agrees on a single core philosophy: Don't be a giant asshole.
(Pictured Lil'ones cover about 90% of the modern world. I didn't forget the other 10%, they're off to the side fighting over the chicken salad and playing cards.)
I'll be honest. This is how I view Heaven. Or at least one of the fields in it. If you come back around 5:00, The good Baron is giving dancing lessons.
*******
At first, I wasn't going to take part in Draw Mohamed Day, but then I remembered that I'd been wanting to draw something like this piece for the longest ass time. So I should do it now. Remember, like the Lil'ones, while we may disagree on specifics, everyone agrees on a single core philosophy: Don't be a giant asshole.
(Pictured Lil'ones cover about 90% of the modern world. I didn't forget the other 10%, they're off to the side fighting over the chicken salad and playing cards.)
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Right. Lil'M and Lil'M both say no to Lil'J's Pineapple and Ham idea. Lil'G suggests Pineapple and Jalapeno, but the other three think that sounds disturbing. Lil'C says they should ask dad, Lil'A wants to order out for noodles, and Lil'B will just have what everyone else is having.
Jalapeno and Pineapple is actually one of the fav pizza dishes for Indians in this part of California. It has no meat and it's a mix of sweet and spicy. Everything you need for proper Indian-style food. On a pizza. The Spicy Hawaiian is just that custom order bleeding back out into the national chain. With the meat added back in because we're all carnivores here. :)
I'm an agnostic, but you don't have to be religious to believe Jesus exist. In fact, for a non-royal who lived 2,000 years ago, there's an extremely large amount of contemporary or near contemporary documentation that he existed, including Christian, Jewish, Gnostic, and Roman records. (Just to give one example, Tacticus's Annals mentions him by name) See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus and in particular: "essentially all scholars in the relevant fields agree that the mere historical existence of Jesus can be established using documentary and other evidence"
Although I do love Wikipedia, for something like this, which requires extensive, peer reviewed information, Wikipedia does not make a good reference page.
However, to use the same page, and the same example, Tacticus does not refer to him by name, but rather "mention of Christianity and "Christus", the Latinized Greek translation of the Hebrew word "Messiah"".
Continued reading shows that there is debate over whether the passage is an echo of what has been said before by other Christians, as there are no official sources for Tacticus' work.
As one of the quotes puts it "Charles Guignebert argued "So long as there is that possibility [that Tacitus is merely echoing what Christians themselves were saying], the passage remains quite worthless"".
Basically, there are plenty of variables to keep the truth unknown. Of course, that is the hardships of dealing with history. It comes down to interpretations, which can be skewed if we assume only one solution from the beginning.
But I'm not arguing that there was or was not a leader behind the Christian movement, and that such a person was executed during that time. But at the same time there is no defining evidence to say that it was exactly the same person whom people call "Jesus."
However, to use the same page, and the same example, Tacticus does not refer to him by name, but rather "mention of Christianity and "Christus", the Latinized Greek translation of the Hebrew word "Messiah"".
Continued reading shows that there is debate over whether the passage is an echo of what has been said before by other Christians, as there are no official sources for Tacticus' work.
As one of the quotes puts it "Charles Guignebert argued "So long as there is that possibility [that Tacitus is merely echoing what Christians themselves were saying], the passage remains quite worthless"".
Basically, there are plenty of variables to keep the truth unknown. Of course, that is the hardships of dealing with history. It comes down to interpretations, which can be skewed if we assume only one solution from the beginning.
But I'm not arguing that there was or was not a leader behind the Christian movement, and that such a person was executed during that time. But at the same time there is no defining evidence to say that it was exactly the same person whom people call "Jesus."
"While we do not have the fullness of biographical detail and the wealth of firsthand accounts that are available for recent public figures, such as Winston Churchill or Mother Teresa, we nonetheless have much more data on Jesus than we do for such ancient figures as Alexander the Great... Along with the scholarly and popular works, there is a good deal of pseudoscholarship on Jesus that finds its way into print. During the last two centuries more than a hundred books and articles have denied the historical existence of Jesus. Today innumerable websites carry the same message... Most scholars regard the arguments for Jesus' non-existence as unworthy of any response—on a par with claims that the Jewish Holocaust never occurred or that the Apollo moon landing took place in a Hollywood studio." -- Michael James McClymond, Familiar Stranger: An Introduction to Jesus of Nazareth, Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 2004, pp. 8 & 23–24
And more specifically, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_myth_theory
And more specifically, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_myth_theory
Yes I looked at that. Though I find the term "pseudoscholarship" rather funny since pseudo-scholarship "refers to research which, while giving the appearance of legitimacy and objectivity, actually violates the principles of scholarly research, often in pursuit of a predetermined agenda."
Therefore, any pseudo-scholarship should not be taken as evidence, since it fails to follow the rules of legitimacy in scholarly research.
And I do not know enough about the author or that book (I can't seem to find any good reviews on it) to cite much. Although I know he is Christian, so I question some of the biases that may be present, but I cannot say for certain about his research.
And, let me state for the record, so we end this back-and-forth comment session, that I do not deny that a "Jesus" existed. I deny the divinity of the man, and question some of the stories and ideas about him, but that there was a person whom the stories center around is quite possibly true. Many legends are based on the events and lives of real people - just exaggerated by a lot.
Therefore, any pseudo-scholarship should not be taken as evidence, since it fails to follow the rules of legitimacy in scholarly research.
And I do not know enough about the author or that book (I can't seem to find any good reviews on it) to cite much. Although I know he is Christian, so I question some of the biases that may be present, but I cannot say for certain about his research.
And, let me state for the record, so we end this back-and-forth comment session, that I do not deny that a "Jesus" existed. I deny the divinity of the man, and question some of the stories and ideas about him, but that there was a person whom the stories center around is quite possibly true. Many legends are based on the events and lives of real people - just exaggerated by a lot.
Well this is probably true (I haven't taken enough time to really examine the research), but I was referring to the "holiness" of them all.
My first comment was too general. I know there are definitely records of Confucius, though I'm not sure about Jesus (at least, if he was one specific person or is a combination of a bunch of different stories).
At any rate, I retract my earlier comment in realization that it is incorrect on some levels.
My first comment was too general. I know there are definitely records of Confucius, though I'm not sure about Jesus (at least, if he was one specific person or is a combination of a bunch of different stories).
At any rate, I retract my earlier comment in realization that it is incorrect on some levels.
Lil'G is my man. Or....uh....avatar. Whatever.
Meanwhile...
"Ugh, how saccarine can you get? Where's the damn mystery in a gang of insufferable little chibis? This artist needs to be fed to one of the Somethings in the basement."
"Buh-buh-but, Cain, it's nuh-not about the image, it's abuh-bout the stories..."
"Oh, shut up, you fat slopbucket. Don't make me get the poker again..."
Meanwhile...
"Ugh, how saccarine can you get? Where's the damn mystery in a gang of insufferable little chibis? This artist needs to be fed to one of the Somethings in the basement."
"Buh-buh-but, Cain, it's nuh-not about the image, it's abuh-bout the stories..."
"Oh, shut up, you fat slopbucket. Don't make me get the poker again..."
The only one I didn't know was L'il A.
But don't let L'il G to the research. He's a tricky one too. He'll come back and tell you that "Kosher" means to douse everything in hot maple syrup, that the Ten Avatars of Vishnu were just all his dad's old drag outfits, and that all of Kun-Fu-Tzu's alleged "wisdom" were just his best pickup lines that he used when visiting Shan Keng.
But don't let L'il G to the research. He's a tricky one too. He'll come back and tell you that "Kosher" means to douse everything in hot maple syrup, that the Ten Avatars of Vishnu were just all his dad's old drag outfits, and that all of Kun-Fu-Tzu's alleged "wisdom" were just his best pickup lines that he used when visiting Shan Keng.
L'll A was borderline for a few reasons. I'm sure there are other traditions with more adherants, but they don't show up in anime and I'm a horribly under-educated white boy, so...
And to me, those are reasons to totally let L'll G to the research! He's always got the best facts.
Plus, he's the only one in the bunch wearing pants.
And to me, those are reasons to totally let L'll G to the research! He's always got the best facts.
Plus, he's the only one in the bunch wearing pants.
A doctor's waiting office that's 40 years out of date. You're stuck in there with a bunch of other people who're also serving time. The TV up in the corner is playing out parts of your life that perhaps you should've done differently. The magazines have articles about the cool crap upstairs you're missing out on because you're refusing to get your shit together and work through all the issues that brought you down here in the first place.
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