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i wonder why after helping him with edits the last time you still find a way to badger him for something hes done as common practice for years and yet no one else finds something wrong with it.
the story is simple and the characters are simple too, he does this frequently and it ties together more to character traits and broadening the people involved
the story is simple and the characters are simple too, he does this frequently and it ties together more to character traits and broadening the people involved
All I was saying is that you said something meaningless. He even agreed that his older stuff needs to be workshopped. And it does. I've been a watcher of his for years. His older comics need more attention. The reason no one says anything is because too many furries are more concerned with complacently safeguarding each other from criticism because they all view it as a personal attack, even when it isnt their body of work, like you.
kind of funny that i actually did work with him for a short while when we did a crossover. giving him some tips in showing more story to dive into characters and make shorter storylines. yes his older comics need more attention but he even says he revamped the series to a more linear move with tony finding a new place rather than living in the hobble he had originally, i even said this in my review of his work
What does any of that even mean? The comic is slice of life. It's multiple continual stories. And there hadn't been much change till I started collaborating with him.
Blake stopped being purely neurotic and has become more open through his relationship with Alex. Noticable but not 180.
Blake stopped being purely neurotic and has become more open through his relationship with Alex. Noticable but not 180.
I mean if you wanna go there.
He didnt approach Alex, Mike helped with that.
He left the theater with no explanation.
He was worried about a read text.
He was too nervous to ask Alex on a 3rd date and Rhonda helped with that.
And to hit the nail on the head, the owner of the comic acknowledged that he relied too much on that trait. A single trait doesn't make a character.
He didnt approach Alex, Mike helped with that.
He left the theater with no explanation.
He was worried about a read text.
He was too nervous to ask Alex on a 3rd date and Rhonda helped with that.
And to hit the nail on the head, the owner of the comic acknowledged that he relied too much on that trait. A single trait doesn't make a character.
to be honest crossfur, i do see things more on the optimistic side of the sepctrum.
i dont complacently demoralize another's work because i need to voice every nitpick on the issue, i review things and interview artist to get the fandom seeing they are all human.
i have helped people wiht their writing, plot, and development over time and they become better on their own, not crediting myself to it or saying i was the root of it.
you however do just that every time someone speaks your there to try and undermine someone else's project they pour passion into
i dont complacently demoralize another's work because i need to voice every nitpick on the issue, i review things and interview artist to get the fandom seeing they are all human.
i have helped people wiht their writing, plot, and development over time and they become better on their own, not crediting myself to it or saying i was the root of it.
you however do just that every time someone speaks your there to try and undermine someone else's project they pour passion into
it appears once more your the only one thinking that, and you really cant say that his writing is vastly underdeveloped due to the fact we can coherently see the value and story for what it is, and his is a simple story teller, not everything needs to be grand
its just how he works well, i mean others dont even use dialogue to tell a story
its just how he works well, i mean others dont even use dialogue to tell a story
You say negative but the vast majority of the furry fanbase prefers qualifiers over actual criticism.
Also, how can 3 seperate elements of the same comic have seperate reads? Also, you didn't need to list all that because it all falls under comic. That's just my pet peeve of tautologies.
Also, I don't ask for more just better. And explain where it can be improved.
Had I explicitly insulted by either saying it was bad in a vacuous and evasive manner, you'd have a point. Or if I just straight up used bad words.
Also, how can 3 seperate elements of the same comic have seperate reads? Also, you didn't need to list all that because it all falls under comic. That's just my pet peeve of tautologies.
Also, I don't ask for more just better. And explain where it can be improved.
Had I explicitly insulted by either saying it was bad in a vacuous and evasive manner, you'd have a point. Or if I just straight up used bad words.
So in other words, you love being negative, instead of "neutral" like you proclaim to be, and you still want more from a comic, and before you say it, yes by wanting it to be "better" you do ask more out of it.
If you are really want to help the comic to be "better" and help tony out, you sir need to learn to be truly neutral and to try some positive reinforcement, instead of all of this that you have been doing, because like it or not, you are lying to your very self, by just keeping this whole farce up, and keep denying all and marking the "negative" staff that you see (cough, cough, your own dislikes that is)
If you are really want to help the comic to be "better" and help tony out, you sir need to learn to be truly neutral and to try some positive reinforcement, instead of all of this that you have been doing, because like it or not, you are lying to your very self, by just keeping this whole farce up, and keep denying all and marking the "negative" staff that you see (cough, cough, your own dislikes that is)
You tell me. How does each unique story, that has its own style, do that? How does each comic tell its story, and captivate its audience?
The answer, it takes all the above and put it together to create it.
And if the artist/creator/ writer is good, he knows how to put them in order, and how to build this world they made, and they are ready to share.
Ofcourse, this work, will not always be liked by all, as not everyone has the same opinions on the matter, as some like more "real" stories than "fantasy" ones, to point the simplest example. Still, they do it. That is how all art starts.
Something that you should know as well, since you say that and all. I wonder though... Do you?
When was the last time you had made something original, a small story of your own. Something that you wrote alone. If you have anything like that, do share, i would like to see it. But if not...
If you really want to see the world truly neutral, then take off your negative blinders that you have put to yourself. That might be a good start for you.
The answer, it takes all the above and put it together to create it.
And if the artist/creator/ writer is good, he knows how to put them in order, and how to build this world they made, and they are ready to share.
Ofcourse, this work, will not always be liked by all, as not everyone has the same opinions on the matter, as some like more "real" stories than "fantasy" ones, to point the simplest example. Still, they do it. That is how all art starts.
Something that you should know as well, since you say that and all. I wonder though... Do you?
When was the last time you had made something original, a small story of your own. Something that you wrote alone. If you have anything like that, do share, i would like to see it. But if not...
If you really want to see the world truly neutral, then take off your negative blinders that you have put to yourself. That might be a good start for you.
Btw, I'll be heading to bed now. If you want to keep this farce up more, with your arguments over the arguments, just leave your "message" and will answer whenever I'm up again =w=.
In the meantime, do try to come with a solid argument (or at the very least learn what being neutral truly means -w-...)
In the meantime, do try to come with a solid argument (or at the very least learn what being neutral truly means -w-...)
Firstly, good morning -w-.
Secondly, optimism my little friend, does do wonders, especially to kind and heart-warming comics, or series, like Tony comics are. You just have to realize that.
But in order to do that, you must first understand that for yourself...
As you must understand that every person does love this comic, no actually any comic for his own reasons. Either it's the story, the art, or all together, each and every one of us love the stories they read for their own reason.
But you keep failing to see this.
I wonder though if you are doing it by purpose too, though, since all that i have just said, is both common logic, but the same time, a MUST logic, any kind of reviewer must have. Without it, you can be truly neutral. You can only be just a random child that just likes to throw tantrums, because he did not get what he wished for...
A shame really if you ask me, but this and every world seems to be full of people like this...
And if you still can't understand what i am saying, then I'm sorry, but i cannot really help you there. All i can do is point you the way back, to start from the zero and start over, because like it or not, you can't keep acting like this that you know better, when you haven't even the slightest experience on the matter that you so much proclaim that you know...
Secondly, optimism my little friend, does do wonders, especially to kind and heart-warming comics, or series, like Tony comics are. You just have to realize that.
But in order to do that, you must first understand that for yourself...
As you must understand that every person does love this comic, no actually any comic for his own reasons. Either it's the story, the art, or all together, each and every one of us love the stories they read for their own reason.
But you keep failing to see this.
I wonder though if you are doing it by purpose too, though, since all that i have just said, is both common logic, but the same time, a MUST logic, any kind of reviewer must have. Without it, you can be truly neutral. You can only be just a random child that just likes to throw tantrums, because he did not get what he wished for...
A shame really if you ask me, but this and every world seems to be full of people like this...
And if you still can't understand what i am saying, then I'm sorry, but i cannot really help you there. All i can do is point you the way back, to start from the zero and start over, because like it or not, you can't keep acting like this that you know better, when you haven't even the slightest experience on the matter that you so much proclaim that you know...
Yeah and people like steven universe even though it apologizes to quasi nazis. Or korra even though it fucks up the previous series and politics.
You say optimism can helps heartwarming series but that doesn't mean anything. Nor is it common sense. You're avoiding saying anything direct. Additionally, I'm currently his editor. The dinner double date series of strips was equally loved. But unlike the generic praise people offer it, there were more standout moments.
When Iade Alex unsire of the date, I kept it less exaggerated level. Also,people actually resonated with that experience. Because social anxiety is real. I make characters believable before I try making them generically kind. Because then they can actually be characters.
Nothing you say is in any way helpful advice because you like most fans wanna sit comfortably and consume everything without a care. You guys just take in all the content and project your own feelings onto it. That isnt how you write characters.
You say optimism can helps heartwarming series but that doesn't mean anything. Nor is it common sense. You're avoiding saying anything direct. Additionally, I'm currently his editor. The dinner double date series of strips was equally loved. But unlike the generic praise people offer it, there were more standout moments.
When Iade Alex unsire of the date, I kept it less exaggerated level. Also,people actually resonated with that experience. Because social anxiety is real. I make characters believable before I try making them generically kind. Because then they can actually be characters.
Nothing you say is in any way helpful advice because you like most fans wanna sit comfortably and consume everything without a care. You guys just take in all the content and project your own feelings onto it. That isnt how you write characters.
Wow, I must have struck a nerve back there for you to try and create random negative issues to various shows -w-...
And how am i avoiding being direct to you, while I literally answer every single one of your questions, but then I am answer back with the opposite argument!? Don't blame me dude when you can't decide yourself what you want, or for being plain negative.
I have thrown a handful of helpful advices, you just keep saying it is random, because:
a) you are not steady with what you ask
b) you ignore common facts and knowledge
c) you deny it all, and want things to happen your way.
You say that I am like any other fans, but I'm afraid you are far more than I will ever be.
Ooh, do please stop being overdramatic with the Ocs, and how the story is laid out, will yah? Why? Because it is yet another common knowledge of how any comic is made. My advice, try to keep that kind of zeal to people that might ever interview you (if there gonna be ever any) about the story and its OCs.
Plus, not all fans will dive so deeply into the story they read right away. The first thing all the notice is the simplest aspects of the story that are given. That is the beginning for any fan to start falling in love with each story, and after that, the development comes, little by little.
You said that you want to be better, and by that, like it or not, you meant you want more, but you can't have that. Like it or not, you need to want to DO better, because then it's when you will truly be better. With every passing page that is made, it will be better and better, even when you find negative people in life that will want to keep pushing you the wrong way, or keep finding only the bad things in your stories... And that is optimism.
And how am i avoiding being direct to you, while I literally answer every single one of your questions, but then I am answer back with the opposite argument!? Don't blame me dude when you can't decide yourself what you want, or for being plain negative.
I have thrown a handful of helpful advices, you just keep saying it is random, because:
a) you are not steady with what you ask
b) you ignore common facts and knowledge
c) you deny it all, and want things to happen your way.
You say that I am like any other fans, but I'm afraid you are far more than I will ever be.
Ooh, do please stop being overdramatic with the Ocs, and how the story is laid out, will yah? Why? Because it is yet another common knowledge of how any comic is made. My advice, try to keep that kind of zeal to people that might ever interview you (if there gonna be ever any) about the story and its OCs.
Plus, not all fans will dive so deeply into the story they read right away. The first thing all the notice is the simplest aspects of the story that are given. That is the beginning for any fan to start falling in love with each story, and after that, the development comes, little by little.
You said that you want to be better, and by that, like it or not, you meant you want more, but you can't have that. Like it or not, you need to want to DO better, because then it's when you will truly be better. With every passing page that is made, it will be better and better, even when you find negative people in life that will want to keep pushing you the wrong way, or keep finding only the bad things in your stories... And that is optimism.
You know, for someone who claims to starts with the "neutral approach" you are truly doing a poor job showing it. I do suggest you to try and see the positive things for once, and like Cris said, do realize that not all comics need to have too many details on them to make them good.
Plus, do us a favour, and do not start a giant conversation here, on the comic you "help" to make. If you want so badly to say something, then open a private conver. And DO mind to include me too. I am really want to hear what you want to say to boyfriend -w-...!!
Tony forgive me pls, but this is a special last message to a "child" that literally blocked me after throwing his tantrum (
crossfurr ) so I "won't be able to answer him back" after calling me names and ect.
You really don't like people pointing out your flaws, don't you kid? Oh, well, not my problem anyway. I'm stopping here anyway, 'cause I see now that I'm dealing with a child that doesn't even try to listen to what the others have to say (or to common logic that is).
A couple of small things before I go though. First, next time you want to start a "conversation" with someone, make sure you do it in a private site. I was texting here by purpose to see how much you "respect" Tony, that you say you "help".
Lastly do not mess with my boyfriend again, because if you do, I'll make sure you learn that true stupidity and arrogance have big consequences kid. That I promise you.

You really don't like people pointing out your flaws, don't you kid? Oh, well, not my problem anyway. I'm stopping here anyway, 'cause I see now that I'm dealing with a child that doesn't even try to listen to what the others have to say (or to common logic that is).
A couple of small things before I go though. First, next time you want to start a "conversation" with someone, make sure you do it in a private site. I was texting here by purpose to see how much you "respect" Tony, that you say you "help".
Lastly do not mess with my boyfriend again, because if you do, I'll make sure you learn that true stupidity and arrogance have big consequences kid. That I promise you.
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