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Companies like Bioware should not deny customers a steak because a baby can't chew it.
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The devs working on the Legendary Edition are regressive, backwards thinkers.
They pretty much confirmed they would change the character models if they could, but due to limitations, they could only change the camera angles.
I am sick of this puritan dogma infecting the gaming industry, and other media in the West. It only stops when we vote with our wallets.
They pretty much confirmed they would change the character models if they could, but due to limitations, they could only change the camera angles.
I am sick of this puritan dogma infecting the gaming industry, and other media in the West. It only stops when we vote with our wallets.
If you don't care about the changes, or think it's not a big deal, I respect your opinion.
But I never liked censorship, because when you give companies an inch, they take a mile. I bet when the game comes out, there will be lots of other things censored that we don't know about yet.
Because it's not just one butt shot; they said the changed multiple scenes. They waste time and money censoring such tame things in a rated M game, but everything wrong with Mass Effect 3 will be left unchanged?
Lots of fans loved those silly, out of place camera angles. They were funny. They inspired lots of fun art and funny memes. And now they took the funny out.
Sorry, but I have no interest giving money to companies that don't have a sense of humor, or don't appreciate one of the best asses in gaming.
But I never liked censorship, because when you give companies an inch, they take a mile. I bet when the game comes out, there will be lots of other things censored that we don't know about yet.
Because it's not just one butt shot; they said the changed multiple scenes. They waste time and money censoring such tame things in a rated M game, but everything wrong with Mass Effect 3 will be left unchanged?
Lots of fans loved those silly, out of place camera angles. They were funny. They inspired lots of fun art and funny memes. And now they took the funny out.
Sorry, but I have no interest giving money to companies that don't have a sense of humor, or don't appreciate one of the best asses in gaming.
Not only that, But things like this make me not want to give a company my money. I mean, who are they to tell me how I can and can't enjoy my content? Miranda's ass is a really integral part of her femme fatale persona. Taking that part of experiencing her character away is like taking away batman's cape. It's unnecessary, and the only reason it's being done is for some woke, political garbage that needs to be left out of entertainment
Yeah, and who tf remembers batman beyond? I mean, Yeah, it was a decent show, but when the world, indeed myself, hear batman, the Iconic image that pops into the head, the first image that immediately comes to mind, is the CAPED CRUSADER. BB is an afterthought. So no, it's not a shit argument just because you don't agree with it. If anything is a shit argument, it's your take on the steak statement. The way Drawsputin said it was to emphasize the fact that we should have the right to choose if we want steak, regardless of whether or not someone else can have it. You are trying to make the argument that everyone should give up their right to get steak however they like it, which is ludicrous. I am an adult, and I have the right to want my content, that I pay for, to be a certain way. It may not be a big deal to you. But it is to me, and many others. This isn't my post, and I don't wish this to spiral out of control, so I'm going to leave you with this. If you go to a restaurant for a particular dish, because it is made a certain way that you like, and then one day they just change the recipe in a way that makes it nasty to you because they believe their customers should be eating healthier, would you stand for that? I'm willing to bet not. You'd probably demand they go back to the old recipe, or go eat somewhere else. Good day
Look, sorry your poorly written character is only known for Fanservice, but that's hardly something worth politicizing, okay?
And no, you don't want steak, you want me to not have steak because your Vegan Lifestyle forbids it. Let me order my steak without who trying to throw red paint on me on you whiny, easily triggered, Politicizing Karen of a Soccer mom. Take your own words and heed the fuck out of them instead of expecting everyone else to live by standards you can't live up to.
And no, you don't want steak, you want me to not have steak because your Vegan Lifestyle forbids it. Let me order my steak without who trying to throw red paint on me on you whiny, easily triggered, Politicizing Karen of a Soccer mom. Take your own words and heed the fuck out of them instead of expecting everyone else to live by standards you can't live up to.
Look, You're the one cussing and throwing a tantrum and acting undignified. That's how a triggered person acts. I was merely trying to explain to you why censorship is stupid. I don't know where you're going with that steak analogy, but I think it's safe to say it's gone a little off the rails at this point, and it's not even the point. If you enjoy being told what you are and aren't allowed to enjoy, or what you are or aren't mature enough to handle, more power to ya. I prefer having a choice, is all I'm saying. You literally started complaining about dude "Politicizing" a booty without realizing that the entire reason for the camera angle changes was to pander to "politicized" wokeness that many don't agree with, and shouldn't be shoved down our throats. So it was already a political thing, and THAT'S why so many people are upset over it. It's not even really about the censorship. It's about the reasoning behind it. Now please, stop pestering me. If you absolutely can't handle life without having the last word, then go ahead and respond, I guess. But I'm done with this conversation
The thing is that these changes are political. They are done to appease a vocal loud minority of people who get angry over sexy people in gaming and see it as objectifying. Most of the characters they attack for this are actually strong characters. Look at Cortana from halo. Sure she is pretty much nude but she still is a powerful character. She managed to hold off gravemind from finding earth for 30 days. Most people will conform. Her and captain keys are the only characters who managed to hold back on graveminds power. Not mention she pretty much is the one shooting down all the covie capitol ships in halo 2.
Not to mention they will lie and take things out of context about a video game they know nothing about
Back in hitman abosultion I think this lady said that the objective was to kill the strippers and move there bodys around but thats not true at all. You actually have to kill the corrupt strip club owner.
I could also go on about many other characters too and examples. But the truth is that this stuff is done appease people who take offensive to sexy people in video games and see it as objecting and its making most western entrainment today really stale and boring. Yet I see people complain that they can't wear what they want or look sexy so I am just rather confused.
Not to mention they will lie and take things out of context about a video game they know nothing about
Back in hitman abosultion I think this lady said that the objective was to kill the strippers and move there bodys around but thats not true at all. You actually have to kill the corrupt strip club owner.
I could also go on about many other characters too and examples. But the truth is that this stuff is done appease people who take offensive to sexy people in video games and see it as objecting and its making most western entrainment today really stale and boring. Yet I see people complain that they can't wear what they want or look sexy so I am just rather confused.
1. I have heard nobody but this specific comment section say anything even close to that. Once more, sorry your generic fanservice character is so poorly written they need fanservice to be justified.
2. Maybe you will, mr "Camera Lives Matter", heck, you even give me an example of you Fox News Karens doing just that.
3. Yes yes, your Christian Sensibilities are a major double standard about everything, we know. What was your argument again? I think you missed it.
2. Maybe you will, mr "Camera Lives Matter", heck, you even give me an example of you Fox News Karens doing just that.
3. Yes yes, your Christian Sensibilities are a major double standard about everything, we know. What was your argument again? I think you missed it.
1. I was talking about antia sarkeeseen she exactly said that in her videos. I don't even play mass effect I wouldn't know if its fanservice but there is nothing wrong with it imo. I give it all the time.
2. I don't watch fox news, I am pretty sure they are sellouts or something. I don't know what camera lives matter means. I don't get what karens have to do with this. I never asked for your manager. I am not a woman with a bowlcut.I haven't really gone out and protested this since I am not really a fan of mass effect and the only thing I know about it is the porn videos.
3. I am not Christian I believe your assuming this. My argument was that the people who want this "fanservice" to be gone are a vocal minority of people who aren't even fans of the product and they shouldn't be pandered too. It just makes company's lose money time and time again.
2. I don't watch fox news, I am pretty sure they are sellouts or something. I don't know what camera lives matter means. I don't get what karens have to do with this. I never asked for your manager. I am not a woman with a bowlcut.I haven't really gone out and protested this since I am not really a fan of mass effect and the only thing I know about it is the porn videos.
3. I am not Christian I believe your assuming this. My argument was that the people who want this "fanservice" to be gone are a vocal minority of people who aren't even fans of the product and they shouldn't be pandered too. It just makes company's lose money time and time again.
1. Jeez man, you gotta stop hanging on her every word and advertising her like that. You Sarkeesian fans are kind of the biggest problem in terms of this exact argument.
2. Wow, my talent in mocking the needless politicization of poorly written characters exising only as fanservice is wasted here. Bro, I mocked you for politicizing this like your buddy Sarkeesian. And for someone who isn't a Karen, you sure as hell shout like one, so sorry, but I am the manager, and you are indeed being a political whiner about your politics. If you sincerely missed the camera joke, you are a lost cause.
3. Yes, you are very vocal here, you are indeed a minority in that sense, and you are indeed being loud, whiny, and politicizing a simple creative change in camera angles. Sorry Anita Sarkeesian, you are your worst enemy here. Hell, if anything you convinced me to buy this collection just to mock you.
2. Wow, my talent in mocking the needless politicization of poorly written characters exising only as fanservice is wasted here. Bro, I mocked you for politicizing this like your buddy Sarkeesian. And for someone who isn't a Karen, you sure as hell shout like one, so sorry, but I am the manager, and you are indeed being a political whiner about your politics. If you sincerely missed the camera joke, you are a lost cause.
3. Yes, you are very vocal here, you are indeed a minority in that sense, and you are indeed being loud, whiny, and politicizing a simple creative change in camera angles. Sorry Anita Sarkeesian, you are your worst enemy here. Hell, if anything you convinced me to buy this collection just to mock you.
1. I should have been more clear. It was antia who said the obejctive of hitman was kill strippers when it was not. I am not a fan of her. I believe she is a con artist and I am glad her show didn't get past episode 2.
2. The reason this change was made was purely political. "we don't want to pander to the male gaze" was one of the reasons the camera changes was done. I am not politizing something that is already politicized, I don't understand why you keep telling me she is fanservice. Like I said I don't find anything wrong with that and I wouldn't care or know. I haven't shouted at you. I have been civil this whole time. You are not a manger at all you don't own a store, I am not whining, if you read my post you would have known that I am not protesting this at all. I am just predicting its not gonna be a good move futhermore why would you joke during a serious discussion? It flew over my head because it was not funny and nobody but you understood what it really meant.
3.I think you are missing the point. I am calling the people who get angry about sexy women in gaming and get angry over fanservice and anime a vocal miniotry that shouldn't be listened to. We who don't want censorship in our games are not a miniotry however. Fans don't want censorship to be added to games. No I am not some Christian who hates sex in games or voilnce. I don't have double standards. I just don't want works to be censored to horrible 2020 norms where everything has to be safe, boring, repetitive. This is not a simple creative change in camera angles. It was done to please to the snowflakes who can't handle sex in a video game. Yeah I do agree anita is the worst enemy here. She doesn't really have a platform anymore and no one takers her for granted. However I don't think she would be angry over this actually probably happy since she hates seeing sexy women in videos games.
I don't think you actually read my whole post. I however read yours and in this response I responded with how I felt about your arguments.
I am sorry but this change was done for political reasons to appease an audience of people who get angry at seeing sexy women. This twitter audience is not only a vocal minority of people but they don't even like or play the product they complain about, They shouldn't be pandered to at all.
2. The reason this change was made was purely political. "we don't want to pander to the male gaze" was one of the reasons the camera changes was done. I am not politizing something that is already politicized, I don't understand why you keep telling me she is fanservice. Like I said I don't find anything wrong with that and I wouldn't care or know. I haven't shouted at you. I have been civil this whole time. You are not a manger at all you don't own a store, I am not whining, if you read my post you would have known that I am not protesting this at all. I am just predicting its not gonna be a good move futhermore why would you joke during a serious discussion? It flew over my head because it was not funny and nobody but you understood what it really meant.
3.I think you are missing the point. I am calling the people who get angry about sexy women in gaming and get angry over fanservice and anime a vocal miniotry that shouldn't be listened to. We who don't want censorship in our games are not a miniotry however. Fans don't want censorship to be added to games. No I am not some Christian who hates sex in games or voilnce. I don't have double standards. I just don't want works to be censored to horrible 2020 norms where everything has to be safe, boring, repetitive. This is not a simple creative change in camera angles. It was done to please to the snowflakes who can't handle sex in a video game. Yeah I do agree anita is the worst enemy here. She doesn't really have a platform anymore and no one takers her for granted. However I don't think she would be angry over this actually probably happy since she hates seeing sexy women in videos games.
I don't think you actually read my whole post. I however read yours and in this response I responded with how I felt about your arguments.
I am sorry but this change was done for political reasons to appease an audience of people who get angry at seeing sexy women. This twitter audience is not only a vocal minority of people but they don't even like or play the product they complain about, They shouldn't be pandered to at all.
1. If you don't like her, why are you do everything you can keep her relevant and politicize things exactly as she would?
2. So because you politicized it with your "Camera lives matter" spiel and are in fact spreading the word of your Sarkeesian shit, I'm bad for asking you NOT to do the thing you just did? Look man, a cigar ain't political, a skin tone ain't political, a camera angle ain't political. You're making a big stink over nothing when you could just as easily go "Oh well" then google "Ass". Really this is on you, some of us have real problems and you're making yourself look like the absolute worst kind of person. Sorry Anita, your Sarkeesian shit ain't welcome here.
3. The point is that you're mad at sexy women in gaming, I KNOW. Jesus fuck Anita, will you shut up already? I am tired of hearing of your fans wailing about some kickstarter I could've gone my whole life without hearing about. Your Christian Sensibilities are not being harmed in any way by a change in camera angle, stop trying to control how people enjoy things.
4. I did read them, what is there to say? You end up repeating the same Anita Sarkeesian points over and over over and over and over again. You're literally accusing me of things I didn't do or care about until you yourself committed them and told me about what you did.
5. Then what's your problem? You're not getting appeased at all and are so far literally one of only 3 people who seem to give a shit about it. Go home Anita, you're done, nobody cares. Stop trying to cancel people you Cancel Culture loving Republican.
In short, you realize that we live in an era where Nazism has come back and you're choosing THIS to whine about and politicize? Get your politics out of my porn, KAREN.
2. So because you politicized it with your "Camera lives matter" spiel and are in fact spreading the word of your Sarkeesian shit, I'm bad for asking you NOT to do the thing you just did? Look man, a cigar ain't political, a skin tone ain't political, a camera angle ain't political. You're making a big stink over nothing when you could just as easily go "Oh well" then google "Ass". Really this is on you, some of us have real problems and you're making yourself look like the absolute worst kind of person. Sorry Anita, your Sarkeesian shit ain't welcome here.
3. The point is that you're mad at sexy women in gaming, I KNOW. Jesus fuck Anita, will you shut up already? I am tired of hearing of your fans wailing about some kickstarter I could've gone my whole life without hearing about. Your Christian Sensibilities are not being harmed in any way by a change in camera angle, stop trying to control how people enjoy things.
4. I did read them, what is there to say? You end up repeating the same Anita Sarkeesian points over and over over and over and over again. You're literally accusing me of things I didn't do or care about until you yourself committed them and told me about what you did.
5. Then what's your problem? You're not getting appeased at all and are so far literally one of only 3 people who seem to give a shit about it. Go home Anita, you're done, nobody cares. Stop trying to cancel people you Cancel Culture loving Republican.
In short, you realize that we live in an era where Nazism has come back and you're choosing THIS to whine about and politicize? Get your politics out of my porn, KAREN.
You do realize Anita is not a republican right? You say I repeat her points. You do realize she would want these camera changes right? The reason I say you didn't read my post is because you think that I am mad at sexy women in gaming but I was saying the people getting censorship done are. Like I don't know if you have some reading problems but in my posts I was NOT attacking you or saying you are made at sexy women in gaming
what I was saying is let me say this for the 3rd time. The reason the camera changes where done was to pander to a bunch of losers on twitter who hate seeing sexy women in gaming and it was done to not appeal to the "male gaze". They censored it to appeal to people who aren't fans and don't even play the game. it is censoring the porn in the game and it was done for POLTICAL reasons.
my problem here is that you clearly have no idea of what the fuck we are talking about and you have done zero research on this. You called antia a republican and said that she loves cancel culture. I hate to break it to you but you do realize its the left that does cancel culture most of the time right? They do it every day on twitter to people who don't deserve it.
This is not even cancel culture. We aren't harassing and threatening the devs of mass effect to give back the old camera angles. We are just not gonna buy it. Simple as. The real cancel culture are the people who constantly get pissed and ape out over seeing sexual things in video games and then complain to companys. Then they actually buy into it and censor it all. Then they lose money.
Also Nazism is not back at all. its just a buzzword used by people who want to demonize people they don't like. Nazis Have ZERO power if you want to see where they really are go to /pol/.
what I was saying is let me say this for the 3rd time. The reason the camera changes where done was to pander to a bunch of losers on twitter who hate seeing sexy women in gaming and it was done to not appeal to the "male gaze". They censored it to appeal to people who aren't fans and don't even play the game. it is censoring the porn in the game and it was done for POLTICAL reasons.
my problem here is that you clearly have no idea of what the fuck we are talking about and you have done zero research on this. You called antia a republican and said that she loves cancel culture. I hate to break it to you but you do realize its the left that does cancel culture most of the time right? They do it every day on twitter to people who don't deserve it.
This is not even cancel culture. We aren't harassing and threatening the devs of mass effect to give back the old camera angles. We are just not gonna buy it. Simple as. The real cancel culture are the people who constantly get pissed and ape out over seeing sexual things in video games and then complain to companys. Then they actually buy into it and censor it all. Then they lose money.
Also Nazism is not back at all. its just a buzzword used by people who want to demonize people they don't like. Nazis Have ZERO power if you want to see where they really are go to /pol/.
1. Bro, how else can I interpret your argument? You are mad because a sexy character exists. Like, it's not they're suddenly wearing a burka and speaking only Swahili. You're just another Sarkeesian wannabe hoping to get mad enough that your vocal minority gets appeased. Go away Anita.
2. Yes yes, you're a loser on Right Wing Safe Spaces like Twitter, we know. Why do you demand pandering an appeasement? I mean, seriously, you're looking at a purely visual change that does nothing to anything anywhere ever. Considering the last 4 years, the fact that you're choosing to politicize your inability to google booty is truly mindboggling. PLease stop politicizing porn, Anita.
3. Okay Anita, let's look at logic. There are 3 people online at all yelling about this thing. Meanwhile, I posted how stupid it was to yell about this thing here https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9773177 and 4 people have said "Wow, that is stupid". So logically, with evidence, I can safely say that more people don't care. Seriously, you're just pissed that a vocal minority of Twitter losers is not getting appeased. Do you see what I am saying yet Anita? Do I need to say "Bizarro Sarkeesian"? Do I need to ask why your youtube series of whining and bitching and moaning is doing anything at all? Come, I don't care what you say you believe, you're acting exactly like Anita Sarkeesian with this Politicization of pornography.
4. You're doing much much much much much worse though, you're trying to turn porn political with shitty whines like this. Congrats on succeeding at your "tHiNk Of ThE cHiLdReN" spiel Sarkeesian, you totally got what was coming to you, and you made me purchase this reboot on day one just to make you cry.
5. January 6th says otherwise, you Sarkeesian shitstain.
2. Yes yes, you're a loser on Right Wing Safe Spaces like Twitter, we know. Why do you demand pandering an appeasement? I mean, seriously, you're looking at a purely visual change that does nothing to anything anywhere ever. Considering the last 4 years, the fact that you're choosing to politicize your inability to google booty is truly mindboggling. PLease stop politicizing porn, Anita.
3. Okay Anita, let's look at logic. There are 3 people online at all yelling about this thing. Meanwhile, I posted how stupid it was to yell about this thing here https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9773177 and 4 people have said "Wow, that is stupid". So logically, with evidence, I can safely say that more people don't care. Seriously, you're just pissed that a vocal minority of Twitter losers is not getting appeased. Do you see what I am saying yet Anita? Do I need to say "Bizarro Sarkeesian"? Do I need to ask why your youtube series of whining and bitching and moaning is doing anything at all? Come, I don't care what you say you believe, you're acting exactly like Anita Sarkeesian with this Politicization of pornography.
4. You're doing much much much much much worse though, you're trying to turn porn political with shitty whines like this. Congrats on succeeding at your "tHiNk Of ThE cHiLdReN" spiel Sarkeesian, you totally got what was coming to you, and you made me purchase this reboot on day one just to make you cry.
5. January 6th says otherwise, you Sarkeesian shitstain.
I don't see how it's censorship. The Destroy All Human remake changed camera angles for cinematics too. Is this censorship?
Look, after all these years of you Soccer Moms yelling "Think of the Children" and forcing a rating system on us, I find it deeply ironic that you suddenly feel the need to remind us that you babies can't chew the steak and want it ruined for us. You can go ahead and not buy it, but stop demanding to see my manager, not everything has to be political.
Also, since when was Mass Effect a comedy?
Look, after all these years of you Soccer Moms yelling "Think of the Children" and forcing a rating system on us, I find it deeply ironic that you suddenly feel the need to remind us that you babies can't chew the steak and want it ruined for us. You can go ahead and not buy it, but stop demanding to see my manager, not everything has to be political.
Also, since when was Mass Effect a comedy?
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