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It's so strange! Crime rates in Little Rodentia have been way down lately. The officer we have stationed there almost never reports anything!
So, my wife and I were watching Zootopia the other day (5th anniversary!) and we got to the Little Rodentia scene, where the rhino officer shouts "Wait for the real cops!"
And I asked out loud... who exactly are they waiting for? The other large cops are going to be even less qualified than Judy to enter Little Rodentia. So what? Do they have rodent officers? Is there a whole rodent PD inside Little Rodentia that they have to put a call in to?
And my amazing, beautiful wife responded with "They've probably got a snake officer who handles these things."
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So, my wife and I were watching Zootopia the other day (5th anniversary!) and we got to the Little Rodentia scene, where the rhino officer shouts "Wait for the real cops!"
And I asked out loud... who exactly are they waiting for? The other large cops are going to be even less qualified than Judy to enter Little Rodentia. So what? Do they have rodent officers? Is there a whole rodent PD inside Little Rodentia that they have to put a call in to?
And my amazing, beautiful wife responded with "They've probably got a snake officer who handles these things."
Ask me questions on my Curious Cat! Feel free to ask questions to either me or one of my characters.
If you're so inclined, I'd much appreciate it if you'd buy me a coffee!
Category Artwork (Digital) / Vore
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Size 3200 x 2400px
File Size 1.01 MB
They were asked about reptiles and birds and more or less hand-waved it by saying "We don't go to those continents."
Of course, adding birds and/or reptiles would require them to explain why, in a modern information-driven "cell phone society" like Zootopia, not a single bird or reptile was seen anywhere in the city. So, while it would be amusing to see a snake patrolling the L.R., I'm expecting a force made of up of stoats, shrews and/or grasshopper mice (with Rescue Ranger cameos as the detectives)... And hoping that, if they rehash any scenes from the original in the sequel, one of them is Weaselton trying to escape through L.R. again and being met at the gate by rodents in armored vehicles.
Of course, adding birds and/or reptiles would require them to explain why, in a modern information-driven "cell phone society" like Zootopia, not a single bird or reptile was seen anywhere in the city. So, while it would be amusing to see a snake patrolling the L.R., I'm expecting a force made of up of stoats, shrews and/or grasshopper mice (with Rescue Ranger cameos as the detectives)... And hoping that, if they rehash any scenes from the original in the sequel, one of them is Weaselton trying to escape through L.R. again and being met at the gate by rodents in armored vehicles.
I'm not sure I believe it would be that hard to explain -- Zootopia's a big city, after all, and we only saw small parts of it over the course the small amount of time in the movie. Also, Zootopians are super racist, so it's entirely possible that reptiles/etc would be looked down upon and just don't have a lot of incentive to try to move there, which would make it even less likely to see them around.
That would be a pretty funny moment!
That would be a pretty funny moment!
Both of the key parts of that statement are certainly true. However...
#1: While it is definitely a big city, we got lots and lots of sweeping views with massive set pieces of that city. It's perfectly conceivable for a Zootopian to never get to know a non-mammal, but not to have never known there were any living around them.
#2: Yes, but they're the "I'm not racist, but-" kind of racist. The kind who, before Bellwether gave all of their anti-pred feelings a semblance of justification, probably would have been the ones saying "I'm not racist, I've got three pred neighbors".
There's also that Gazelle song, which contains the lyrics "birds don't just fly, they fall down and get up". Which does demonstrate that birds exist, but, were they just as sentient and civilized as the mammals, would be the equivalent of singing about how Asians are good at math.
Don't get me wrong -- I was as miffed as anyone when the original Zootopia decided to include the micros but not the non-mammals. But now the line's been drawn, and the last thing any sequel or other supplemental material should do is try to draw a new line somewhere else.
Personally, I'm hoping the sequel just tries to ignore it as much as the original did. Then maybe Disney can do another movie about... I dunno, birds living in Tudor England (or something), and if that one's a hit too, they can be all "Hey, guess what? That was one of the other continents!" and throw the birds, reptiles and Zootopia altogether like they did with Avengers.
#1: While it is definitely a big city, we got lots and lots of sweeping views with massive set pieces of that city. It's perfectly conceivable for a Zootopian to never get to know a non-mammal, but not to have never known there were any living around them.
#2: Yes, but they're the "I'm not racist, but-" kind of racist. The kind who, before Bellwether gave all of their anti-pred feelings a semblance of justification, probably would have been the ones saying "I'm not racist, I've got three pred neighbors".
There's also that Gazelle song, which contains the lyrics "birds don't just fly, they fall down and get up". Which does demonstrate that birds exist, but, were they just as sentient and civilized as the mammals, would be the equivalent of singing about how Asians are good at math.
Don't get me wrong -- I was as miffed as anyone when the original Zootopia decided to include the micros but not the non-mammals. But now the line's been drawn, and the last thing any sequel or other supplemental material should do is try to draw a new line somewhere else.
Personally, I'm hoping the sequel just tries to ignore it as much as the original did. Then maybe Disney can do another movie about... I dunno, birds living in Tudor England (or something), and if that one's a hit too, they can be all "Hey, guess what? That was one of the other continents!" and throw the birds, reptiles and Zootopia altogether like they did with Avengers.
I'm not sure any of that actually refutes what I said? I mean, yeah, big sweeping set pieces, but Zootopia is a big city and there are large parts of it we never saw. Maybe there are snakes living in the desert?
Regarding #2, I don't think that would make people any more eager to move in next to them.
The gazelle song just says that birds exist, not that they're non-sentient. The statement isn't necessarily patronizing -- or maybe Gazelle is, as you put it, the "I'm not racist, but" kind of racist. Or, maybe birds are non-sentient, but reptiles aren't?
And the directors seem to have gone out of their way to not draw a line on this, as far as I can tell.
We can agree to disagree. If Zootopia 2 introduced a continent of lizards, I wouldn't be offended. Or I'd be totally fine if they just ignore the idea!
Regarding #2, I don't think that would make people any more eager to move in next to them.
The gazelle song just says that birds exist, not that they're non-sentient. The statement isn't necessarily patronizing -- or maybe Gazelle is, as you put it, the "I'm not racist, but" kind of racist. Or, maybe birds are non-sentient, but reptiles aren't?
And the directors seem to have gone out of their way to not draw a line on this, as far as I can tell.
We can agree to disagree. If Zootopia 2 introduced a continent of lizards, I wouldn't be offended. Or I'd be totally fine if they just ignore the idea!
Well... No, it doesn't refute anything you said. It was just filling in the blanks for a fuller picture, I guess.
Gazelle: "Birds don't just fly, they fall down and get up."
(eye-rolls from all the ostriches, penguins and emus in the audience)
If they do intend to introduce other continents, I'm hoping they do it gradually. Like have the villain talk about overpopulation, ask Judy if she thinks "a starving fox" will extend the mercy he will show her to her many hundreds of siblings or something like that, and just when it starts to look like the villain's assessment may be legit, somebody throws out a line like "Dude, that's a way, way long way off. There are entire continents on which no mammal has set foot in centuries." Then they can explore that later and not worry about the exposition swallowing the plot.
Gazelle: "Birds don't just fly, they fall down and get up."
(eye-rolls from all the ostriches, penguins and emus in the audience)
If they do intend to introduce other continents, I'm hoping they do it gradually. Like have the villain talk about overpopulation, ask Judy if she thinks "a starving fox" will extend the mercy he will show her to her many hundreds of siblings or something like that, and just when it starts to look like the villain's assessment may be legit, somebody throws out a line like "Dude, that's a way, way long way off. There are entire continents on which no mammal has set foot in centuries." Then they can explore that later and not worry about the exposition swallowing the plot.
Alright, that's fair! It came across like you were trying to argue with me. XP
And yeah, I think we can both agree that if they decide to include reptiles in the future, it could be done well, but it could also easily be done really poorly. They could always ease in the idea in that new show!
And yeah, I think we can both agree that if they decide to include reptiles in the future, it could be done well, but it could also easily be done really poorly. They could always ease in the idea in that new show!
#1 reason I was opposed to the Star Wars acquisition was because I figured "Why pay top dollar for an existing franchise when you can mint a brand new one?"
IMO, Zootopia has the potential to be THAT big... So yeah, I wouldn't mind being able to put a pelican in my Z/0 stuff, but I am prepared to wait however long it takes to do it right. ^_^
IMO, Zootopia has the potential to be THAT big... So yeah, I wouldn't mind being able to put a pelican in my Z/0 stuff, but I am prepared to wait however long it takes to do it right. ^_^
Yeah, they said reptiles and birds and all that exists, just Zootopia was meant to be a more mammalian-focused city, not that there aren't reptiles or birds there, but that due to different needs and desires of residents, there are major reptilian and avian cities that exist in other parts of the world that are built differently from one for mammals mainly, but as one of the major cities of the world, modeled after New York and London, you can bet there are collections of reptiles and avians that exist but may stick to areas we didn't see in depth.
The only thing NOT considered having intelligence this is free to eat seems to be fish and bugs, and even then I personally like to imagine it's more like Beastars/Beast Complex with the Fish, that they every way as smart and advanced as the land animals, but are okay with being food, and making food of others. Like if you met a shark, it could speak, be intelligent, hold a conversation, but wouldn't mind eating you since in their culture being eaten is not a major thing, and it's a more vore-friendly mentality because of that.
We know the diet of the carnivore races in Zootopia is made up of bug and fish-based meals, to try to put them off from eating the meat of other residents but give them all the nutrient they biologically need, not that it changes the fact there is probably plenty of residents of Zootopia that eat each other, given most animals are at the very least opportunistic omnivores, be it cows, rabbits, deer, mice, rats, and so on. ;9
The only thing NOT considered having intelligence this is free to eat seems to be fish and bugs, and even then I personally like to imagine it's more like Beastars/Beast Complex with the Fish, that they every way as smart and advanced as the land animals, but are okay with being food, and making food of others. Like if you met a shark, it could speak, be intelligent, hold a conversation, but wouldn't mind eating you since in their culture being eaten is not a major thing, and it's a more vore-friendly mentality because of that.
We know the diet of the carnivore races in Zootopia is made up of bug and fish-based meals, to try to put them off from eating the meat of other residents but give them all the nutrient they biologically need, not that it changes the fact there is probably plenty of residents of Zootopia that eat each other, given most animals are at the very least opportunistic omnivores, be it cows, rabbits, deer, mice, rats, and so on. ;9
Does she just like slide into her suit, or does someone have to help her into it? How would she get out with no arms? More importantly, apparently the suit is made to stretch... we can deduce the tie is, in fact, a clip-on. Tie fabric isn't elastic, she wouldn't have been able to 'arrest' someone. How does a snake clip one on?
Real problems innovators had to tackle in Zootopia.
Real problems innovators had to tackle in Zootopia.
"And my amazing, beautiful wife responded with "They've probably got a snake officer who handles these things.""
Ok so here me out here, you should do a series just based on the random things your wife says, as so far all of them have been amazing (tbh all your art is amazing but I digress) so I think that would be pretty cool.
Ok so here me out here, you should do a series just based on the random things your wife says, as so far all of them have been amazing (tbh all your art is amazing but I digress) so I think that would be pretty cool.
Well, it turns out there's another snake police officer who gained some notability since Zootopia's release.
Hint: It's Torque. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy5wxhgWw5I
Hint: It's Torque. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy5wxhgWw5I
*Squeak!* Wearing a blue blouse and skirt, pretty against her grey fur, the mousette came to an abrupt halt as she approached the curb where a snake in a police uniform, her badge reading Officer Slithers, was staring down at her. "oh no. . ." the mouse muttered, shoulders slumping as the officer took out a pad with her tail, propping it in a holder in her vest that seemed made for that purpose.
"Were you aware you were crossing the street, outside a crosswalk?" the snake asked casually, as her tail went for her pen.
"Well. . .yeah. . ." the mouse admitted. "But there was no traffic!" she exclaimed. “It was perfectly safe!”
The officer's expression was disapproving, as her tail fiddled, trying to grab the pen. "That's no excuse for ignoring the law," she said sternly. “Name?”
“Penny,” the mouse answered quickly. Realizing her mistake, the mouse switched tactics, making an effort to be ingratiating. “Yeah, yeah, you’re right!” She admitted. “I know it was a mistake. . . But I can’t get another ticket!” she exclaimed. “Not now!” She smiled her sweetest bucktoothed smile. She put her paws behind her back, pulled her shoulders back, trying to look as cute as she possibly could. “Pleeeeease,” she begged. “Couldn't you just not report me?" she asked, smiling sweetly. "Just this once?"
Silently cursing, still trying to pick up the pen, Officer Slithers sighed and looked back down at the mouse, only to forget her frustration. Penny's posture, presenting herself to the snake, was indeed having an effect on the officer, though perhaps not the one the mouse had intended. Officer slithers looked down and up the shapely mouse. Her tongue flickered out and tasted the doe's pleasant scent. Penny's offer was certainly tempting. The snake's eyes flicked back and forth. The pair were alone. Familiar with the area, Slithers knew there was an abandoned alley just around the corner.
"It is a pain to write a ticket," she admitted, giving up trying to pick up the pencil, and putting her her tablet away. “And I guess there’s no need to take you to the station.” She smiled. “I’m sure you can make up for your transgression through. . . community service!”
Penny squealed with delight, jumping into the air. “Oh thank you!” she squealed. “Thank you! Thank you, Thank you!” Smiling up at the snake, she didn’t notice the officer’s tail slipping around behind her. “You won’t regret this!” she squeaked. “What do you need me t *SQUEEEEEAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!* The snakes coils wrapped the mouse up and squeezed all the air from her lungs. She could barely inhale as the coil held her. Her heart raced as Officer slithers carried her off.
“I’m sure I won’t!” Officer Slithers agreed. Mmmmmm, the plump mouse doe felt so nice in her coils, soft and warm blooded, kicking and jerking, her heart racing so fast. It had been too long since she had gotten the opportunity to indulge in enjoying her natural prey. Slithers flickered out her tongue; the taste of the doe’s scent was stronger than ever, mouth watering, and accented by her fear. Penny kicked and wriggled, looking up wide eyed as the pair entered the alleyway. Oh yes, there was no need to fiddle with the pencil, or to bring the mouse to the station. Penny’s record would remain clear, in return for her service.
"Were you aware you were crossing the street, outside a crosswalk?" the snake asked casually, as her tail went for her pen.
"Well. . .yeah. . ." the mouse admitted. "But there was no traffic!" she exclaimed. “It was perfectly safe!”
The officer's expression was disapproving, as her tail fiddled, trying to grab the pen. "That's no excuse for ignoring the law," she said sternly. “Name?”
“Penny,” the mouse answered quickly. Realizing her mistake, the mouse switched tactics, making an effort to be ingratiating. “Yeah, yeah, you’re right!” She admitted. “I know it was a mistake. . . But I can’t get another ticket!” she exclaimed. “Not now!” She smiled her sweetest bucktoothed smile. She put her paws behind her back, pulled her shoulders back, trying to look as cute as she possibly could. “Pleeeeease,” she begged. “Couldn't you just not report me?" she asked, smiling sweetly. "Just this once?"
Silently cursing, still trying to pick up the pen, Officer Slithers sighed and looked back down at the mouse, only to forget her frustration. Penny's posture, presenting herself to the snake, was indeed having an effect on the officer, though perhaps not the one the mouse had intended. Officer slithers looked down and up the shapely mouse. Her tongue flickered out and tasted the doe's pleasant scent. Penny's offer was certainly tempting. The snake's eyes flicked back and forth. The pair were alone. Familiar with the area, Slithers knew there was an abandoned alley just around the corner.
"It is a pain to write a ticket," she admitted, giving up trying to pick up the pencil, and putting her her tablet away. “And I guess there’s no need to take you to the station.” She smiled. “I’m sure you can make up for your transgression through. . . community service!”
Penny squealed with delight, jumping into the air. “Oh thank you!” she squealed. “Thank you! Thank you, Thank you!” Smiling up at the snake, she didn’t notice the officer’s tail slipping around behind her. “You won’t regret this!” she squeaked. “What do you need me t *SQUEEEEEAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!* The snakes coils wrapped the mouse up and squeezed all the air from her lungs. She could barely inhale as the coil held her. Her heart raced as Officer slithers carried her off.
“I’m sure I won’t!” Officer Slithers agreed. Mmmmmm, the plump mouse doe felt so nice in her coils, soft and warm blooded, kicking and jerking, her heart racing so fast. It had been too long since she had gotten the opportunity to indulge in enjoying her natural prey. Slithers flickered out her tongue; the taste of the doe’s scent was stronger than ever, mouth watering, and accented by her fear. Penny kicked and wriggled, looking up wide eyed as the pair entered the alleyway. Oh yes, there was no need to fiddle with the pencil, or to bring the mouse to the station. Penny’s record would remain clear, in return for her service.
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