
What have we learned from the last ten years of online discourse?
- If you oppose eugenics and abortion, which the German National Socialist Worker's Party supported, you are a Nazi
- If you oppose gun control, which the German National Socialist Worker's Party supported, you're a Nazi
- If you oppose corporations and government blending together into a single entity, which defined fascism in general, you're a Nazi
- If you support patriotism towards the United States of America, whose freedom-loving soldiers fought to overthrow the German National Socialist Worker's Party, you're a Nazi
- If you support free speech, including freedom to argue in favor of German National Socialist Worker's Party and its policies so that others can openly refute them in great detail without censorship, you're a Nazi
- If you criticize any person of Jewish descent, including a former informant of the German National Socialist Worker's Party who uses his vast stores of wealth to push totalitarianism in the world to this day, you're a Nazi and only hate him for being a Jew
- If you even softly criticize a homosexual or literally any flavor of crossdresser (from people with a humiliation fetish to people suffering from actual clinical gender dysphoria) on anything even unrelated to their status as a "marginalized group" you are a Nazi
- If you think the color white looks cool on character designs, you're a Nazi
- Pinwheel designs for any reason are Nazis, clockwise, counterclockwise, having a significance in any other culture, not being at perfect 90 degree angles in each bend, doesn't matter
- If you are aware of and spread the fact that non-fascist totalitarian socialist regimes like Maoist China and Stalinist Russia murdered millions more people than the German National Socialist Worker's Party, you're just being an apologist for Nazis
- If you draw any comparisons between beloved leftist figures like Karl Marx, Che Guevara, or Charles Darwin on subjects like bankers, homosexuals, and blacks why that means you're just trying to downplay how these things were bad with the German National Socialist Worker's Party
- If you don't want to surrender all freedoms and do exactly what the government is telling you to do under the guise of your own safety, you're a Nazi
- Milk is a Nazi
- The OK hand gesture makes you a Nazi
- If you say something mean on Twitter and people aren't smart enough to come up with a clever retort, that makes you a Nazi
- If you draw a comic making fun of Nazis and modern day "Neo-Nazi" posers you are a Nazi
- If you draw a comic making fun of any sacred cow of leftism, you are a Nazi
- If you tell an edgy joke because people are easily offended at anything perceived as a Nazi, you are a Nazi
- If you're a Jew but are right-wing, you are a Nazi
- If you don't hear Nazi dogwhistles everywhere, you're a Nazi
- Even you've never showed any tendency towards or sympathy for Nazis, you're just hiding it because you're a Nazi
- Nazis need to be fired from their jobs
- Nazis need to have their businesses destroyed
- Nazis need to have all their assets seized by the state
- Nazis need to be rounded up in box cars and sent to re-education camps
- We need to find some sort of final solution for this Nazi problem
- If you oppose eugenics and abortion, which the German National Socialist Worker's Party supported, you are a Nazi
- If you oppose gun control, which the German National Socialist Worker's Party supported, you're a Nazi
- If you oppose corporations and government blending together into a single entity, which defined fascism in general, you're a Nazi
- If you support patriotism towards the United States of America, whose freedom-loving soldiers fought to overthrow the German National Socialist Worker's Party, you're a Nazi
- If you support free speech, including freedom to argue in favor of German National Socialist Worker's Party and its policies so that others can openly refute them in great detail without censorship, you're a Nazi
- If you criticize any person of Jewish descent, including a former informant of the German National Socialist Worker's Party who uses his vast stores of wealth to push totalitarianism in the world to this day, you're a Nazi and only hate him for being a Jew
- If you even softly criticize a homosexual or literally any flavor of crossdresser (from people with a humiliation fetish to people suffering from actual clinical gender dysphoria) on anything even unrelated to their status as a "marginalized group" you are a Nazi
- If you think the color white looks cool on character designs, you're a Nazi
- Pinwheel designs for any reason are Nazis, clockwise, counterclockwise, having a significance in any other culture, not being at perfect 90 degree angles in each bend, doesn't matter
- If you are aware of and spread the fact that non-fascist totalitarian socialist regimes like Maoist China and Stalinist Russia murdered millions more people than the German National Socialist Worker's Party, you're just being an apologist for Nazis
- If you draw any comparisons between beloved leftist figures like Karl Marx, Che Guevara, or Charles Darwin on subjects like bankers, homosexuals, and blacks why that means you're just trying to downplay how these things were bad with the German National Socialist Worker's Party
- If you don't want to surrender all freedoms and do exactly what the government is telling you to do under the guise of your own safety, you're a Nazi
- Milk is a Nazi
- The OK hand gesture makes you a Nazi
- If you say something mean on Twitter and people aren't smart enough to come up with a clever retort, that makes you a Nazi
- If you draw a comic making fun of Nazis and modern day "Neo-Nazi" posers you are a Nazi
- If you draw a comic making fun of any sacred cow of leftism, you are a Nazi
- If you tell an edgy joke because people are easily offended at anything perceived as a Nazi, you are a Nazi
- If you're a Jew but are right-wing, you are a Nazi
- If you don't hear Nazi dogwhistles everywhere, you're a Nazi
- Even you've never showed any tendency towards or sympathy for Nazis, you're just hiding it because you're a Nazi
- Nazis need to be fired from their jobs
- Nazis need to have their businesses destroyed
- Nazis need to have all their assets seized by the state
- Nazis need to be rounded up in box cars and sent to re-education camps
- We need to find some sort of final solution for this Nazi problem
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As I always say, it's an issue of not going into either extreme: People must understand that yes, there are real fascist psychopaths who hate people for who they are... at the same time, a fashion has formed in some circles to call anyone who disagrees with them a Nazi, while some ways of approaching even the issue of real ones go overboard (eg: destroying freedom of speech). Real fascism must be discouraged but without the absurd hysteria that's happening right now.
Speaking of Che Guevara, he wasn't even a real guerrilla fighter. He had no gift for strategy or logistics (which are crucial for mounting a successful guerrilla campaign against a bigger/stronger adversary). He was basically a glorified executioner. Oh, and he hated gays and believed homosexuality was a bourgeois tendency, apparently assuming that all gays were effeminate. But then there was Ernst Rohm who was a masculine gay Nazi of the SA brownshirts who liked to pair up with other masculine gays. Technically, that's totally in keeping with Greco-Roman tradition, and the Nazis generally loved that Roman stuff. But they also blended it with Teutonic motifs.
Oh, and let's not forget that Aleister Crowley (himself a hypocrite) recognized Hitler as a "black magician" (though Himmler was even more into that esoteric stuff). Not enough people nowadays talk about the occult aspect of fascism. They'll point out the militant papist support of fascism, and rightly so, but they won't delve into the hypocrisy of pro-fash papists supporting an ideology that's inseparable from occult sorcery.
Oh, and let's not forget that Aleister Crowley (himself a hypocrite) recognized Hitler as a "black magician" (though Himmler was even more into that esoteric stuff). Not enough people nowadays talk about the occult aspect of fascism. They'll point out the militant papist support of fascism, and rightly so, but they won't delve into the hypocrisy of pro-fash papists supporting an ideology that's inseparable from occult sorcery.
so whats wrong with abortion and giving women the right to choose?
whats wrong with having stricter gun laws that require better background checks and shit. so things like sandy hook dont happen again.
I don't understand half these "issues" "If you support patriotism towards the United States of America, whose freedom-loving soldiers fought to overthrow the German National Socialist Worker's Party, you're a Nazi"
Uhm, do you know how many extremist n@zi groups their are who have U.S. combat veterans in them? those who help teach military tactics to other members within these groups?
Specifically one group known as Atomwaffen?
Even you've never showed any tendency towards or sympathy for Nazis, you're just hiding it because you're a Nazi
- Nazis need to be fired from their jobs
- Nazis need to have their businesses destroyed
- Nazis need to have all their assets seized by the state
- Nazis need to be rounded up in box cars and sent to re-education camps
- We need to find some sort of final solution for this Nazi problem
all of these make perfect sense. kill the fascists. It's easy.
whats wrong with having stricter gun laws that require better background checks and shit. so things like sandy hook dont happen again.
I don't understand half these "issues" "If you support patriotism towards the United States of America, whose freedom-loving soldiers fought to overthrow the German National Socialist Worker's Party, you're a Nazi"
Uhm, do you know how many extremist n@zi groups their are who have U.S. combat veterans in them? those who help teach military tactics to other members within these groups?
Specifically one group known as Atomwaffen?
Even you've never showed any tendency towards or sympathy for Nazis, you're just hiding it because you're a Nazi
- Nazis need to be fired from their jobs
- Nazis need to have their businesses destroyed
- Nazis need to have all their assets seized by the state
- Nazis need to be rounded up in box cars and sent to re-education camps
- We need to find some sort of final solution for this Nazi problem
all of these make perfect sense. kill the fascists. It's easy.
As much as I really hate Nazies and think in isolation banning them is a good. I dislike setting the precedent for political targeting is a thing.
Their is a fair case that Nazies tend to only pay attention to precedent when it is in their favor, but I feel like a healthy nation should be able to beat Nazies without going to such extremes.
Their is a fair case that Nazies tend to only pay attention to precedent when it is in their favor, but I feel like a healthy nation should be able to beat Nazies without going to such extremes.
"If you oppose eugenics and abortion, which the German National Socialist Worker's Party supported, you are a Nazi"
- The Nazis forced abortions on Jews whilst banning it for everyone else, please.
"If you oppose gun control, which the German National Socialist Worker's Party supported, you're a Nazi"
- Yes, guns are should be a fundamental right, the people, especially the working class, should be able to rise up should the government attempt to institute any more opression than it already provides through its mere existence.
"If you oppose corporations and government blending together into a single entity, which defined fascism in general, you're a Nazi"
- You've got it wrong, it is not state ownership that defined nazism, it is private ownership, the crushing of labor unions through force and the defense of private property, (private property being the means of production, personal property being e.g your house, car, dining utensils, etc. Nazis quite literally empowered the capitalists, fascism being a core component of capitalism during its decaying stage, arising as a result of the rise of workers movements.
"If you support patriotism towards the United States of America, whose freedom-loving soldiers fought to overthrow the German National Socialist Worker's Party, you're a Nazi"
- wtf r u on, there's a difference between patriotism and nationalism, get a grip
"If you support free speech, including freedom to argue in favor of German National Socialist Worker's Party and its policies so that others can openly refute them in great detail without censorship, you're a Nazi"
- Free speech is the freedom to speak out against a government, however it has consequences that come from the people, not the government, you've got to learn that you can't just call black people racial slurs and not get beat up (EXTREME EXAMPLE)
"If you criticize any person of Jewish descent, including a former informant of the German National Socialist Worker's Party who uses his vast stores of wealth to push totalitarianism in the world to this day, you're a Nazi and only hate him for being a Jew"
- No comment.
"If you even softly criticize a homosexual or literally any flavor of crossdresser (from people with a humiliation fetish to people suffering from actual clinical gender dysphoria) on anything even unrelated to their status as a "marginalized group" you are a Nazi"
- Depends on what you say when you criticize them, no one will call you homophobic if you say "ew that (something theyre wearing for example) sucks"
"If you think the color white looks cool on character designs, you're a Nazi"
- Depends on if you're throwing a fuss just because they're black and are "put in for inclusivity" or not
"Pinwheel designs for any reason are Nazis, clockwise, counterclockwise, having a significance in any other culture, not being at perfect 90 degree angles in each bend, doesn't matter"
- That's because of their association with neofascist organizations
"If you are aware of and spread the fact that non-fascist totalitarian socialist regimes like Maoist China and Stalinist Russia murdered millions more people than the German National Socialist Worker's Party, you're just being an apologist for Nazis"
- Capitalist Britain literally killed more than 100 million people in India get a grip
"If you draw any comparisons between beloved leftist figures like Karl Marx, Che Guevara, or Charles Darwin on subjects like bankers, homosexuals, and blacks why that means you're just trying to downplay how these things were bad with the German National Socialist Worker's Party"
- whar, Charles Darwin as a leftist? could nasa also be under control by communist jew penguins that try to tell you the world is round?
"If you don't want to surrender all freedoms and do exactly what the government is telling you to do under the guise of your own safety, you're a Nazi"
- MMMM ANTIFA (modern) IS WHEN GOVERNMENT, THEYRE TOTALLY NOT ANARCHISTS..
"Milk is a Nazi"
- wuh
"The OK hand gesture makes you a Nazi"
- Neonazis use it, it is a dog whistle, just like how 1488, 88, etc. are nazi dogwhistles, whileas 161, 1312, etc. are antifa dogwhistles
"If you say something mean on Twitter and people aren't smart enough to come up with a clever retort, that makes you a Nazi"
- Depends on what you say.
"If you draw a comic making fun of Nazis and modern day "Neo-Nazi" posers you are a Nazi"
- whar, when did this happen
"If you draw a comic making fun of any sacred cow of leftism, you are a Nazi"
- wuh
"If you tell an edgy joke because people are easily offended at anything perceived as a Nazi, you are a Nazi"
- You cannot call people slurs with historic/symbolic meaning and not expect backlash.
"If you're a Jew but are right-wing, you are a Nazi"
- Are you talking about being far right or right wing.
"If you don't hear Nazi dogwhistles everywhere, you're a Nazi"
- if you say them or whatever, you are.
"Even you've never showed any tendency towards or sympathy for Nazis, you're just hiding it because you're a Nazi"
- Have you done a 180 or sum, why are you sympathising with nazis now
"Nazis need to be fired from their jobs"
- what does this have to do with anything
"Nazis need to have their businesses destroyed"
- What does this have to do with anything??
"Nazis need to have all their assets seized by the state"
- not by the state given the state is largely displaying more and more elements of fascism
"Nazis need to be rounded up in box cars and sent to re-education camps"
- whar
"We need to find some sort of final solution for this Nazi problem"
- whar
- The Nazis forced abortions on Jews whilst banning it for everyone else, please.
"If you oppose gun control, which the German National Socialist Worker's Party supported, you're a Nazi"
- Yes, guns are should be a fundamental right, the people, especially the working class, should be able to rise up should the government attempt to institute any more opression than it already provides through its mere existence.
"If you oppose corporations and government blending together into a single entity, which defined fascism in general, you're a Nazi"
- You've got it wrong, it is not state ownership that defined nazism, it is private ownership, the crushing of labor unions through force and the defense of private property, (private property being the means of production, personal property being e.g your house, car, dining utensils, etc. Nazis quite literally empowered the capitalists, fascism being a core component of capitalism during its decaying stage, arising as a result of the rise of workers movements.
"If you support patriotism towards the United States of America, whose freedom-loving soldiers fought to overthrow the German National Socialist Worker's Party, you're a Nazi"
- wtf r u on, there's a difference between patriotism and nationalism, get a grip
"If you support free speech, including freedom to argue in favor of German National Socialist Worker's Party and its policies so that others can openly refute them in great detail without censorship, you're a Nazi"
- Free speech is the freedom to speak out against a government, however it has consequences that come from the people, not the government, you've got to learn that you can't just call black people racial slurs and not get beat up (EXTREME EXAMPLE)
"If you criticize any person of Jewish descent, including a former informant of the German National Socialist Worker's Party who uses his vast stores of wealth to push totalitarianism in the world to this day, you're a Nazi and only hate him for being a Jew"
- No comment.
"If you even softly criticize a homosexual or literally any flavor of crossdresser (from people with a humiliation fetish to people suffering from actual clinical gender dysphoria) on anything even unrelated to their status as a "marginalized group" you are a Nazi"
- Depends on what you say when you criticize them, no one will call you homophobic if you say "ew that (something theyre wearing for example) sucks"
"If you think the color white looks cool on character designs, you're a Nazi"
- Depends on if you're throwing a fuss just because they're black and are "put in for inclusivity" or not
"Pinwheel designs for any reason are Nazis, clockwise, counterclockwise, having a significance in any other culture, not being at perfect 90 degree angles in each bend, doesn't matter"
- That's because of their association with neofascist organizations
"If you are aware of and spread the fact that non-fascist totalitarian socialist regimes like Maoist China and Stalinist Russia murdered millions more people than the German National Socialist Worker's Party, you're just being an apologist for Nazis"
- Capitalist Britain literally killed more than 100 million people in India get a grip
"If you draw any comparisons between beloved leftist figures like Karl Marx, Che Guevara, or Charles Darwin on subjects like bankers, homosexuals, and blacks why that means you're just trying to downplay how these things were bad with the German National Socialist Worker's Party"
- whar, Charles Darwin as a leftist? could nasa also be under control by communist jew penguins that try to tell you the world is round?
"If you don't want to surrender all freedoms and do exactly what the government is telling you to do under the guise of your own safety, you're a Nazi"
- MMMM ANTIFA (modern) IS WHEN GOVERNMENT, THEYRE TOTALLY NOT ANARCHISTS..
"Milk is a Nazi"
- wuh
"The OK hand gesture makes you a Nazi"
- Neonazis use it, it is a dog whistle, just like how 1488, 88, etc. are nazi dogwhistles, whileas 161, 1312, etc. are antifa dogwhistles
"If you say something mean on Twitter and people aren't smart enough to come up with a clever retort, that makes you a Nazi"
- Depends on what you say.
"If you draw a comic making fun of Nazis and modern day "Neo-Nazi" posers you are a Nazi"
- whar, when did this happen
"If you draw a comic making fun of any sacred cow of leftism, you are a Nazi"
- wuh
"If you tell an edgy joke because people are easily offended at anything perceived as a Nazi, you are a Nazi"
- You cannot call people slurs with historic/symbolic meaning and not expect backlash.
"If you're a Jew but are right-wing, you are a Nazi"
- Are you talking about being far right or right wing.
"If you don't hear Nazi dogwhistles everywhere, you're a Nazi"
- if you say them or whatever, you are.
"Even you've never showed any tendency towards or sympathy for Nazis, you're just hiding it because you're a Nazi"
- Have you done a 180 or sum, why are you sympathising with nazis now
"Nazis need to be fired from their jobs"
- what does this have to do with anything
"Nazis need to have their businesses destroyed"
- What does this have to do with anything??
"Nazis need to have all their assets seized by the state"
- not by the state given the state is largely displaying more and more elements of fascism
"Nazis need to be rounded up in box cars and sent to re-education camps"
- whar
"We need to find some sort of final solution for this Nazi problem"
- whar
This kind of sums up my concerns. We do not know the story behind the post, maybe said author ran into a rather rabid bout of leftists. But it more sounds like they ran into the Nazi propaganda. I do get the impression the alt right accuses leftest of this stuff more than leftists do it. Leftest tend to be horrified when someone actually leftest does that.
Than again I do not hang around that many internet circles, and stay off Twitter and Facebook, hang more on spacebattles, other fanfiction sites and so on. So maybe I am hearing more about the right wing crazies than the left wing crazies.
Do right wing and left wing mean anything, mixing complicated political systems into a single axis seems over simplying them. Often both sides of the extreme start to look strangely like the same thing, making one wonder if one judging them right.
I consider myself a moderate leftest who thinks capitalism has some critical pros, but needs to be tightly regulated. I do not think communism works, but I think capitalism destroys itself if you give it the freedom to. Companies must pay the price of their externalites which can be negative for positive ones, trust busting hammer must be kept ready, and becoming rich is reasonable, becoming so rich one can buy a senator off is terrifying. I wish we can find a progressive tax scheme that can avoid being loop holed by the mega rich, and allow one to have wealth as a nice diminishing curve in the amount of effort required to increase it.
Also please replace first past the post with ranked voting, first past the post breaks hugely when one looks into the details. Voting should be a holiday too.
The story about the OK symbol is intresting. It started when channers decided to trick leftists in thinking OK is a Nazi symbol, but actually Nazies got into it. So the whole ok symbol thing is both Nazi propaganda and fact. I can respect it being a pretty good piece of alt right propaganda while being horrified that so evil a cause pulled it off.
Than again I do not hang around that many internet circles, and stay off Twitter and Facebook, hang more on spacebattles, other fanfiction sites and so on. So maybe I am hearing more about the right wing crazies than the left wing crazies.
Do right wing and left wing mean anything, mixing complicated political systems into a single axis seems over simplying them. Often both sides of the extreme start to look strangely like the same thing, making one wonder if one judging them right.
I consider myself a moderate leftest who thinks capitalism has some critical pros, but needs to be tightly regulated. I do not think communism works, but I think capitalism destroys itself if you give it the freedom to. Companies must pay the price of their externalites which can be negative for positive ones, trust busting hammer must be kept ready, and becoming rich is reasonable, becoming so rich one can buy a senator off is terrifying. I wish we can find a progressive tax scheme that can avoid being loop holed by the mega rich, and allow one to have wealth as a nice diminishing curve in the amount of effort required to increase it.
Also please replace first past the post with ranked voting, first past the post breaks hugely when one looks into the details. Voting should be a holiday too.
The story about the OK symbol is intresting. It started when channers decided to trick leftists in thinking OK is a Nazi symbol, but actually Nazies got into it. So the whole ok symbol thing is both Nazi propaganda and fact. I can respect it being a pretty good piece of alt right propaganda while being horrified that so evil a cause pulled it off.
my apologies for taking so long to respond, i genuinely did not understand how comments worked, i did not understand how i can find responses to my comments, and i just forgot about this, however, "Do right wing and left wing mean anything, mixing complicated political systems into a single axis seems over simplying them. Often both sides of the extreme start to look strangely like the same thing, making one wonder if one judging them right."
- Yes, the whole point of the left right thingy, while being used incorrectly, is a means of categorising people as progressive, conservative, and reactionary, it started all the way back in france or smth, as the progressives, revolutionaries, etc. sat on the left of the parliament, and the reactionaries, monarchists, and conservatives sat on the right, in the modern day, the term has become increasingly overused and used wrong, but it is still a moderately valid means of describing politics rather quickly, even if there are things such as economically leftist but socially rightist societies, namely the USSR under stalin (pre ww2) where he regressed women's, minorities, and gays rights, and reinforced certain social hierarchies in the USSR, namely, through attempts of russification, yap yap tldr is yes it does
"I consider myself a moderate leftest who thinks capitalism has some critical pros, but needs to be tightly regulated. I do not think communism works, but I think capitalism destroys itself if you give it the freedom to. Companies must pay the price of their externalites which can be negative for positive ones, trust busting hammer must be kept ready, and becoming rich is reasonable, becoming so rich one can buy a senator off is terrifying. I wish we can find a progressive tax scheme that can avoid being loop holed by the mega rich, and allow one to have wealth as a nice diminishing curve in the amount of effort required to increase it."
-This idealistic thought, while seeming correct at first, has some critical loopholes, which can only be solved either through abandoning regulation, or abandoning capitalism, there are other means of achieving the "pros of capitalism" without allowing for private ownership of the means of production
- Yes, the whole point of the left right thingy, while being used incorrectly, is a means of categorising people as progressive, conservative, and reactionary, it started all the way back in france or smth, as the progressives, revolutionaries, etc. sat on the left of the parliament, and the reactionaries, monarchists, and conservatives sat on the right, in the modern day, the term has become increasingly overused and used wrong, but it is still a moderately valid means of describing politics rather quickly, even if there are things such as economically leftist but socially rightist societies, namely the USSR under stalin (pre ww2) where he regressed women's, minorities, and gays rights, and reinforced certain social hierarchies in the USSR, namely, through attempts of russification, yap yap tldr is yes it does
"I consider myself a moderate leftest who thinks capitalism has some critical pros, but needs to be tightly regulated. I do not think communism works, but I think capitalism destroys itself if you give it the freedom to. Companies must pay the price of their externalites which can be negative for positive ones, trust busting hammer must be kept ready, and becoming rich is reasonable, becoming so rich one can buy a senator off is terrifying. I wish we can find a progressive tax scheme that can avoid being loop holed by the mega rich, and allow one to have wealth as a nice diminishing curve in the amount of effort required to increase it."
-This idealistic thought, while seeming correct at first, has some critical loopholes, which can only be solved either through abandoning regulation, or abandoning capitalism, there are other means of achieving the "pros of capitalism" without allowing for private ownership of the means of production
To be fair about the okay gesture, I think actual Nazies were trying to make it a Nazi thing. The getting anti Nazies confused over what is Nazi and not Nazi is a victory for Nazies and they know that.
Have not been seeing the Nazies need to assets stolen by the state stuff. Maybe I been hanging around the moderate leftwing spaces, but the most radical it gets is saying free speech should not protect things like Nazies. Which is pretty radical in America, and while I understand their reasoning, I do not agree with it.
I mean Pepe the frog, swastikas and so on were innocent things until the Nazies got their hand on it. Pepe the frog has been reclaimed, but not so much swastikas.
It also worth noting imperial Japan was pretty evil too. One thing you have to credit Germany, is they took responsibility for their evil in the way Japan did not.
Have not been seeing the Nazies need to assets stolen by the state stuff. Maybe I been hanging around the moderate leftwing spaces, but the most radical it gets is saying free speech should not protect things like Nazies. Which is pretty radical in America, and while I understand their reasoning, I do not agree with it.
I mean Pepe the frog, swastikas and so on were innocent things until the Nazies got their hand on it. Pepe the frog has been reclaimed, but not so much swastikas.
It also worth noting imperial Japan was pretty evil too. One thing you have to credit Germany, is they took responsibility for their evil in the way Japan did not.
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