
"The abandon of original timeline"
Warning : DILF is a story that I work several pages ahead of time. This is all pre-made I made (not include paper draft) before the story derail and end early.
Warning : All texts wasn't be proofread. Please read with caution.
Warning : It's April fools day today. I wish I could say that the ending is a lie. I wish I could say I'm fine. I wish I could lie to myself that everything will be ok. But I can't...My imagination for this story is all dead and it's not fun to do it anymore…I'm too scared to fantasize…
Warning : DILF is a story that I work several pages ahead of time. This is all pre-made I made (not include paper draft) before the story derail and end early.
Warning : All texts wasn't be proofread. Please read with caution.
Warning : It's April fools day today. I wish I could say that the ending is a lie. I wish I could say I'm fine. I wish I could lie to myself that everything will be ok. But I can't...My imagination for this story is all dead and it's not fun to do it anymore…I'm too scared to fantasize…
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I'm truly sorry you felt you had to abandon the comic thanks to some of the toxicity this fandom always throws out. I truly enjoyed it and was eagerly reading every page as it came out, always excited for the next panel. Even seeing the last few pages like this is a treat, and I wish beyond all wishes that it wasn't over. Some part of me wants to hold out the minor hope that perhaps one day in the future, you'll think of this project again and come back to it. I'd certainly be more than happy to help in any way I can, be it proofreading or just someone to generate ideas off of.
But I can respect when someone has made a decision, and I'll certainly stand behind you on it. I hope any future project you start working on goes well, I'll certainly keep an eye out for it!
But I can respect when someone has made a decision, and I'll certainly stand behind you on it. I hope any future project you start working on goes well, I'll certainly keep an eye out for it!
I agree with that i whish to someday maybe see the full storry that was planed because tis here show tis comic hat potential to be one off the best i have ever seen.
Wish you all the best luck and may all the wonds heal in the future and i hope you can forget at some point what happend.
Your a great artist Vavacung and i will always watch your art.
Wish you all the best luck and may all the wonds heal in the future and i hope you can forget at some point what happend.
Your a great artist Vavacung and i will always watch your art.
If I wasn't a narrator sure I would somewhat think the same but when page 3 came alarm bells rang he just knew too much of a dragon he never really seen...... so he had to learn it from somewhere....... then the part you speak of.... that was not bullying..... that just a feeling of the shoe being on the other foot.... just like the people had to run and hide from her he made her run and hide from him....... If I have to say looks to me he was putting on a act to show her how it feels to be on the run and hide from something you can't kill.....
When your approach is that confidant in page 3.... that was a sigh for me to read carefully or miss what really being said in this that you could trace but that damn stick is what made me wonder why.... it was so out of place he had spells and binding spells but he kept using that stick that's what really scratched off what people was thinking he was up to because if he could bind her that easy tho few time he would have been of done what they say he was trying to do.... and this really pointed it out.
Can I just point out how Vava got discouraged from doing this is a pound for pound recount for why they took so long to do the Secret Love life of a changeling because when they first made that story on a fanfic site they got berated into the ground for it which was why they were cautious even to start that comic in the first place. This is literally just that but in a different universe altogether and getting just as berated for it. Also, can you blame them for just saying to hell with it and destroying the universe with the comic pages after the fact so people don't berate them for not finishing the comic because people will do that and you have to be naive to think people won't do it either.
It's true that dragons respect thos that give them a challenge BUT, you have to think like a young dragon...... and... they tend to get themselves in trouble because they out testing they might and power to pretty much anything that moves or breaths..... but, she was just lay waste to anything and everything before something could give her that challenge she craved in the end there was no choice but to end it with basically nuking her. That's why that ending happened and why I said the point where she interrupted was likely him about to tell her this. It's the author spin on how that group interrupted the story.
This was his way of testing us..... He did say this at the start is why I said nothing through out the story on telling what was really being said or it would have ruin what he was doing this test for. So, it was meant to be directed based off how the readers responded to it.... and it ended like that because most of the responses was very bad and overwhelmed the good responses to it.
I have to agree with pretty much everything you said. The joke dragged on for way too long, so I feel that the response braver received may very well have been the fault of the story's pacing. Had we gotten this flashback sequence directly after Braver confronted DD about her fake story it would likely have changed everyone's perception of the character and resulted in a far better opinion of him by those critiqueing the comic. The more I see it, the more apparent it becomes that the pacing is what did it. We went for months on the same joke, taking multiple 4 panel posts when in reality the gag should have just been a page long.
Vavacung: the world is ready for your kobold. While I was surprised with how you ended your comic... I'd honestly much rather see it continue given what these panels are showing. There was definite promise there, and more than what we were seeing in the lead up to your breakdown. I sincerely hope that you're able to continue on with it, and remember: toxic assholes on the internet don't matter, the comments here aren't worth the bits they're displayed on. You make what you like, and don't let the remarks of others stop you from it.
Vavacung: the world is ready for your kobold. While I was surprised with how you ended your comic... I'd honestly much rather see it continue given what these panels are showing. There was definite promise there, and more than what we were seeing in the lead up to your breakdown. I sincerely hope that you're able to continue on with it, and remember: toxic assholes on the internet don't matter, the comments here aren't worth the bits they're displayed on. You make what you like, and don't let the remarks of others stop you from it.
It truly breaks my heart to see how much you suffered with this because of a bunch of toxic assholes. You loved this comic and it was a really nice comic. The ideas you had, the references you made, and the silliness was all great.
Don't be scared to fantasize. Don't be scared to create something YOU want to create. There's always gonna be that group of idiots who think they are the moral police. Ignore them, block them even if you have to. They don't care about your art, just about policing everything they can. Block them and continue doing what you love. So many people support you and love your work. We don't wanna see you lose yourself over a bunch of random jerks who only show up to heavily criticize things they don't understand. Don't let your imagination die Vava. Don't give in to the toxicity.
Don't be scared to fantasize. Don't be scared to create something YOU want to create. There's always gonna be that group of idiots who think they are the moral police. Ignore them, block them even if you have to. They don't care about your art, just about policing everything they can. Block them and continue doing what you love. So many people support you and love your work. We don't wanna see you lose yourself over a bunch of random jerks who only show up to heavily criticize things they don't understand. Don't let your imagination die Vava. Don't give in to the toxicity.
I am really sorry if your scared and that we are constantly harassed by toxic viewers
I'd advise if things are that bad you may want to step away from drawing for awhile
Because the last thing you need is second guessing yourself over words that are not even advice or opinions
And if you do want to do something like this again (even if it is not thi setting) I'd be all for it
I'd advise if things are that bad you may want to step away from drawing for awhile
Because the last thing you need is second guessing yourself over words that are not even advice or opinions
And if you do want to do something like this again (even if it is not thi setting) I'd be all for it
Well. This is a right kick in the nards. Watching a comic with a charm get destroyed by the comments section and then seeing what could have been.
Personally. I liked Braver. Even when the comments section didn't. A smart planner with a goal. And as the story progressed, a bigger reason to drive for that goal. A min/max character who knew he was gonna keep on doing one point of damage. Can't tell you how many times in games I saw one damage and continued pressing on. Especially if falling back wasn't the best of options. So to see it play out in a character like this was a fun little charm.
Comments say he became a bit too preachy. Honestly. I didn't see it that way. He just had a counter to everything Dragon said or did. He was literally made and had all the right tools and knowledge/foresight to fight a powerhouse. And I get it. You can't learn about the two if there isn't any dialogue between them. Which kinda gets lost when Braver is beating on Dragon like a nat.
As for the rapist thing. Shrug. My own character is known to lose fights by challenging bigger and tougher opponents. So to me, "Beating into Submission", just sounded like he was going to continue until Dragon finally saw him as the superior in the bout and let him have his way. Spoils of war as it were. And let's be 100% honest here before people flame me for this. There is NO WAY Braver could actually rape or would try to rape Dragon. A well-planned kobold like that would know that without her consent, he is dead. If she even still has an ounce of strength or recovered even an ounce, he is dead. One bite. One swipe. Hell. Even if she closed her legs. Too many ways to get bested after your victory if you don't somehow crack her shell and get her to consent. It was the act of cracking that hardened shell that got most people calling rapists.
Sure. Let's not lie. It was sexual harassment and I'm sure some people would say that it was setting up for Dragon to develop Stockholm Syndrome. But given the setting. Dragon wouldn't give anyone a chance to rise up. Do you look like a challenge? You're dead cause she will fight you early on when you're not prepared. And whoever COULD stop her, like her mother here, won't because they are other dragons or more powerful beings who won't get involved cause of traditions. So enter Braver. Someone who appears low level. Weak. Checks all the boxes to fly under the radar. And does so. Capable opponents have all tried and failed. So when I started reading that he was a "stalker", I scratched my head. These panels of what should have been only helped clear up how he knew the truth of her back story. Knowing how the opponent fights is easy when you're hired by multiple kingdoms to take down one threat that they themselves have lost to. Meaning to me that they have tried numerous things in numerous ways. So combat and combat prep wasn't a big surprise in that category.
Why Lay the Dragon instead of Slay the Dragon? Honestly. I don't think it was truly explained. Like out of all his reasonings before, it never sounded like a true PERSONAL reason. If we did get the actual page 49, it would have made a hell of a lot more sense. And let's all be honest here. Without a personal reason or intent. NO ONE will sit there and continue hammering out one point of damage all day and all night. Even myself when I'm stuck in these situations, it's usually because I haven't saved or I really. really. want this thing dead. Or to just see if I can. For Braver though. Poor kingdoms can't offer him gold. They could have offered him a wife, but I don't think that fits Braver's character much. Or maybe it does but it wouldn't fit his intentions.
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All in all though since I'm a scatterbrain and know I'm missing a lot of details. Braver and his actions never gave me the whole rapist vibe. He had an intent that was clear from the get-go. Had reasoning. And ironically was the only person in that world's existence who even thought about NOT killing the dragon. To me. Everything played out like a well-written script. Granted. It was one with a bunch of gags and funny twists. But overall understandable and reasonable.
I think another issue though is that most have become adaptive to the usual "lay the dragon" trope. Where the "big bad dragon" is either easily overpowered or just rolls over when the hero unsheathes his "sword". This story showed an actual uphill battle that didn't stick with the trope and would have been nice to see reach an ACTUAL conclusion instead of where it ended. It wasn't an, "ok. I've changed my ways." Kind of story. And I'm sure the whole "Braver show more character progression/Braver learned the error of his ways," side of the house might have quieted down if his backstory had a bit more time to show.
Personally. I liked Braver. Even when the comments section didn't. A smart planner with a goal. And as the story progressed, a bigger reason to drive for that goal. A min/max character who knew he was gonna keep on doing one point of damage. Can't tell you how many times in games I saw one damage and continued pressing on. Especially if falling back wasn't the best of options. So to see it play out in a character like this was a fun little charm.
Comments say he became a bit too preachy. Honestly. I didn't see it that way. He just had a counter to everything Dragon said or did. He was literally made and had all the right tools and knowledge/foresight to fight a powerhouse. And I get it. You can't learn about the two if there isn't any dialogue between them. Which kinda gets lost when Braver is beating on Dragon like a nat.
As for the rapist thing. Shrug. My own character is known to lose fights by challenging bigger and tougher opponents. So to me, "Beating into Submission", just sounded like he was going to continue until Dragon finally saw him as the superior in the bout and let him have his way. Spoils of war as it were. And let's be 100% honest here before people flame me for this. There is NO WAY Braver could actually rape or would try to rape Dragon. A well-planned kobold like that would know that without her consent, he is dead. If she even still has an ounce of strength or recovered even an ounce, he is dead. One bite. One swipe. Hell. Even if she closed her legs. Too many ways to get bested after your victory if you don't somehow crack her shell and get her to consent. It was the act of cracking that hardened shell that got most people calling rapists.
Sure. Let's not lie. It was sexual harassment and I'm sure some people would say that it was setting up for Dragon to develop Stockholm Syndrome. But given the setting. Dragon wouldn't give anyone a chance to rise up. Do you look like a challenge? You're dead cause she will fight you early on when you're not prepared. And whoever COULD stop her, like her mother here, won't because they are other dragons or more powerful beings who won't get involved cause of traditions. So enter Braver. Someone who appears low level. Weak. Checks all the boxes to fly under the radar. And does so. Capable opponents have all tried and failed. So when I started reading that he was a "stalker", I scratched my head. These panels of what should have been only helped clear up how he knew the truth of her back story. Knowing how the opponent fights is easy when you're hired by multiple kingdoms to take down one threat that they themselves have lost to. Meaning to me that they have tried numerous things in numerous ways. So combat and combat prep wasn't a big surprise in that category.
Why Lay the Dragon instead of Slay the Dragon? Honestly. I don't think it was truly explained. Like out of all his reasonings before, it never sounded like a true PERSONAL reason. If we did get the actual page 49, it would have made a hell of a lot more sense. And let's all be honest here. Without a personal reason or intent. NO ONE will sit there and continue hammering out one point of damage all day and all night. Even myself when I'm stuck in these situations, it's usually because I haven't saved or I really. really. want this thing dead. Or to just see if I can. For Braver though. Poor kingdoms can't offer him gold. They could have offered him a wife, but I don't think that fits Braver's character much. Or maybe it does but it wouldn't fit his intentions.
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All in all though since I'm a scatterbrain and know I'm missing a lot of details. Braver and his actions never gave me the whole rapist vibe. He had an intent that was clear from the get-go. Had reasoning. And ironically was the only person in that world's existence who even thought about NOT killing the dragon. To me. Everything played out like a well-written script. Granted. It was one with a bunch of gags and funny twists. But overall understandable and reasonable.
I think another issue though is that most have become adaptive to the usual "lay the dragon" trope. Where the "big bad dragon" is either easily overpowered or just rolls over when the hero unsheathes his "sword". This story showed an actual uphill battle that didn't stick with the trope and would have been nice to see reach an ACTUAL conclusion instead of where it ended. It wasn't an, "ok. I've changed my ways." Kind of story. And I'm sure the whole "Braver show more character progression/Braver learned the error of his ways," side of the house might have quieted down if his backstory had a bit more time to show.
Vavacung this story is a amazing regardless but I'm sorry had to face such toxic people but know this, we're your true fans that would rather see how everything turns out. Cause with them complaining how YOU are making the comic just shows they want a child friendly ending instead of doing what most people would say "if don't have anything nice to say then don't say it at all." Along with "if you don't like the comic then don't read it" I hope in the future that you can make wonderful comics regardless what people say cause after all, you're in control of your art, not them and they shouldn't tell you how to make a comic or anything art related unless it's a commission.
So much beauty. So much potential. All squandered thanks to the toxic comments of people who had nothing better to do than ruin fun for everyone else.
I hope things get better for you and that you regain that passion. Don't be scared to fantasize. Best thing you can do to counter toxic behavior is make sure they can't bother you again. No artist should have to go through what you went through. Its sad that we might never see your original vision come to light. But I'm glad we got a hint of it here.
Thank you for doing your best.
I hope things get better for you and that you regain that passion. Don't be scared to fantasize. Best thing you can do to counter toxic behavior is make sure they can't bother you again. No artist should have to go through what you went through. Its sad that we might never see your original vision come to light. But I'm glad we got a hint of it here.
Thank you for doing your best.
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