danm... thats really unfortunate. hope you re ok though

I'm ok

I Have Wrecked My Fair Share Of Cars, Driven On Ice, Snow, And Flash Floods.
I Find It Hard To Believe An Accident Such As Presented Above Was Simply Caused By Hydroplaning.
Unless You Were Going At Such Speeds That Made The Car To Do So, And In That Case, Would Be To Your Own Stupidity.

I was doing around 35mph and slowing due to traffic stacking up from the rainfall. I do think that had I been in the far left lane instead of the far right lane, I would have been able to either avoid the curb or lessened the impact.

According To The Picture, Your On A Straight

Also, I Have Never Heard Of Anything Ever Possibly Hydroplaning At 35mph, Not Even In A Puddle.

yes, you can hydroplane at 35mph (at most speeds as well)

Then Your Driving Skills Must Be Piss Poor If You Cant Control A Car At 35mph, Hydroplaning. Again, This Is User Error.

Also Givine Fact That The Sun Is Out, And There Are Dry Spots On The Ground. Even The Car Is Dry On The Sides

could be an oil slick spot if not water, also..you'd make a great lawyer /s

I Have Been Told By Many People That I Should Become A Teacher.

been there Thrisk... I had the same problem trying to avoid a bonehead on a wet road. In my case, the car had a light back end and the tires were worn just enough to lose all traction when I stepped on the brakes. In my case I was able visit the junk yard and fix it myself.

V.

This Vehicle Is Front Wheel Drive.

70% Of Brake Power Is In The Front

Even If This Was A "Hydroplane" Accident,
The Speed At Which The Car Would Of Had To Be Going Would Be Way Over 35mph To Destroy The Tire Rim

Also Note That The Tire Rim Is Pushed In On Two Sides, Meaning Heavy Impact On Multiple Objects

Also That The Axil Itself Is Completely Out Of Position

At speed impact with a highwall curb and into the pole, not everything comes to rest perfectly.

But It Is Not The End Result, It Is Cause That Lead To The End Result, Which Is The Picture Presented Above. Only Facts Given Are Stated In One The Comments By The Owner.

Ainoko 2 (Ya still alive, and the pole is undamaged so no having to pay a fine to fix the pole.) Pole 1 Car 0

Sorry, trying to lighten the mood.

Maybe we can raise you enough money to get yourself a Tesla.

This is highly suspicious to me, I'm sorry to say.

Its kinda hard to hydroplane at 35 miles an hour. Its just barely at the limits of hydroplaning possibility. You're going so slow, that if you tapped the breaks like you said, you'd slow down enough to stop hydroplaning.

On top of that, you mention driving in the left lane. You're in Texas, which means the left lane is the fast lane, and water pools up in the right lane. It would have to have been raining a lot, to get water all the way to the left lane.

Thirdly, full coverage insurance for a new car is required by law. The only way they will not cover the repairs, is if they find this to be your fault. If it is your fault, should you really be asking people to pay for it for you?

I'm sorry, but this is just my opinion, and views on the situation. Its really suspect and thats why you're going to have people have a hard time believing all this. I'm sure you'll hide this comment though so eh.

I was driving in the right lane, I should have been driving in the left lane in those conditions. Also, I have liability only on the car, which means I am screwed

I dunno, I just find this rather strange. Hydroplaning at 35 miles an hour should be ridiculously hard. Especially if it just started raining. Out here in Arkansas, we have flooded roads that have inches deep water for over a mile and we drive through them without hydroplaning too much and we're going faster usually. If you don't know how to drive in all situations, you should slow down considerably in conditions you don't understand, but driving in rain should be taught at all driver's ed classes to begin with. But whatever.

My primary reason for suspicion is that you hydroplaned at a low speed, practically the bare minimum speed to hydroplane at. A speed so low it should have resulted in no incidents unless you freaked out and panicked.

EDIT: As a side note, you don't need to fix 100% of everything. You can leave the dent in the car. Just fix what it needs to get driving again. The tire, and whatever else was damaged when that got shoved back. Dents are cosmetic.

This Is 100% True Statement.
Like That Edit Note, As We Say Here 'West Virginia Chrome' (Car Held Together With Duct Tape)

You're kinda rude with how you're behaving in the journal, so I've been ignoring you. I tried to be as delicate about my suspicions as I could.

Life - The Real World - Reality - Everything Physical, Living And Non - Does Not Give Second Chances. Do You Expect Me To Be Polite In A Situation That Could Of Been Prevented Using Pure Common Sense?

Just This Weekend, A School Student Died Base Jumping Into A Lake.
All Of Which Could Of Been Of Avoided If People Would Take That One Second And Think.

Though A Tree Is Only The Reason I'm Still Here. Slid Into It Going To Fast On A Dirt Road, And The Tree Prevented Me From Falling Down The Drop Off.

Personally, I Would Rather Someone Tell Me The Facts, Up Front And Straight,
But That Is My Opinion. I Am Not The One To Get Their Feelings Hurt Like Todays 'Softer Than Butter' Society

His tires look pretty worn, and the water looks deep enough that it would have been less hydroplaning and more just the sudden force of water on the tire causing it to drag more on one side than the other.

There isn't enough information to determine the exact cause, and it looks like it had just finished raining by the time he was driving.because I can see darker clouds reflecting off the water where the open sky is behind him based on the reflection in the window.

I still feel odd about it. Its pretty hard to hydroplane at low speeds. I even told my mother about it and she was like "How do you hydroplane at 35 miles per hour?", we've hydroplaned before. It floods a lot out here, we get pockets of water several inches deep, and even roads submerged enough to drive a mile through water several inches deep. Even driven through severe hail. You just gotta know how to handle weather conditions I guess. But yea. This was like, the lowest of conditions that it happened which makes it so strange.

If the angle is just right you can bounce a tire off even a shallow pool of water, water is heavy and non-compressible, so it if you hit the puddle just right, it can be done.

As a Professional Driver, to me it looks like roughly 40-45MPH, Tire blows out on water, skids into Curb (Thus the double crunched points of the Rim and damage to the wheel well) and then scratches on the car from the pole.

I wasn't there but that's the kind of look it has to me.

Still sucks that insurance can't help them though

I was driving in the right lane during the downpour, could have hit a puddle that started the whole thing

or a Pot Hole, both can cause issues. It's been awhile since I drove in Texas, but also remember the longer between a downpour, the more oil from both the asphalt and cars is going to mix with the water and cause issues.

Hell, this happened on one of the dozen or so major road near AT&T Stadium and the new and old Rangers stadiums, the roads aren't always at their best

You want to see bad road conditions.
Come to my area, where well traffic is a 24/7 Thing. Not Even patches Can fix the Pot Holes In Our Roads.

guess I should not have been driving in the right hand lane then. I have stated that had I been in the left lane, things could have played out differently, or even had far more room to recover. In rainy conditions, water runoff does pool to the sides of the road, so at 35mph hydroplaning is very likely.

So you admit error on your part then.

not error, I was in the right lane when it started raining, had it been raining when I left work, I would have naturally been in the left lane. I was slowing down when the rain started, so any oils, loose debris and runoff puddles would have been contributing factors in the accident. The one thing I will admit to doing wrong when the car started hydroplaning, was pumping the brakes instead of letting up or gently applying pressure to the brakes.

You Provide Information That Doesn't Follow The Photographic Evidence. IF It Had "Just" Started Raining, And The Accident Was Around That Time,
Why Would You Wait Such A Long Time Before Taking The Photo? Most Of The Rain Water Is Already Gone,
And As Another Commenter Posted, There Is Even Blue Sky Reflecting From The Windshield.
Not To Mention The Entire Tire Itself, Is Dry, So The Car Would Of Had To Sit Stationary For A Good While, "IF" This Where A Hydroplane Accident.

Also, Due To Liabilities And Such, With How Questionable This Post IS,
Also Knowing That Petty Cash Is Iliegle, And Most Definitely In A Scenario That Is Completely Falsified With Insurances.

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That they aren't

Yeah, I only had liability on my car. So, I had to go out to a buy here pay here dealer so I wouldn't miss work on monday. Should not have done a buy here pay here dealer.

i know you r pain to well had to fix my car to for the same reson