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I don't want to say too much, as this drawing is already too controversial, but at the same time it is important to me as a way to make sense of everything that has happened.
I am very grateful for your
real support and attention in this difficult time!
I am very grateful for your
real support and attention in this difficult time!
Category Artwork (Digital) / All
Species Western Dragon
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File Size 218 kB
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No way. NO WAY. You and karu are together?! thats sooooo awesssome. Thats so beautifully awesome. He really need some1 like you, fawn. I wish you both the best from the bottom of my heart. Hot damn im so happy for you both. 2 of my fav dragons and artists meet up and date. GLORIOUS!!!!
I do understand your decision, and while the way it happened wasn't really the nice way, ultimately you did what's best for yourself, which is understandable and something I can stand behind and support (note: this refers to the *why*, not the *how*).
However, to me, this just feels like adding fuel to the flames, and that's not okay imo... It's not "too controversial", it's just disrespectful and hurtful. I know it's a way for you to express your thoughts, but doing so in public, given the circumstances, it just feels wrong...
I don't mean to dawntalk any of your emotions, but I felt the need to voice my concerns over this post. I hope that's understandable.
I also hope that you see it as the respectful approach I've tried to make here, despite the exhorting undertone, and not as an attack which it's not intended to be - after all, in situations like these, it's important to be able to have a calm, sober discussion (especially when posting something literally tagged "too controversial").
However, to me, this just feels like adding fuel to the flames, and that's not okay imo... It's not "too controversial", it's just disrespectful and hurtful. I know it's a way for you to express your thoughts, but doing so in public, given the circumstances, it just feels wrong...
I don't mean to dawntalk any of your emotions, but I felt the need to voice my concerns over this post. I hope that's understandable.
I also hope that you see it as the respectful approach I've tried to make here, despite the exhorting undertone, and not as an attack which it's not intended to be - after all, in situations like these, it's important to be able to have a calm, sober discussion (especially when posting something literally tagged "too controversial").
Agreed. Breaking up with someone, and then seeking someone else immediately after is problematic, because the pain from the first break clouds one's judgment and rational thinking. Its the worst gamble, because... sure, one might be jumping into another relationship in hopes of patching up the pain quickly, and it may feel comforting short termn, but the choosen second partner might do more harm than good because of a lack of knowledge about them, will lead to one thinking "Why did I choose them in the first place?" And they wont know the answer, another break up is extremely likely in that case.
That and... well, long distance relationships are generally a bad idea. Terrible. I hope everyone involved in this make it through as unharmed as possible, even if they probabbly are very harmed already.
EDIT: OF COURSE I could be exaggerating and they may just be friends instead of... well closer haha.
That and... well, long distance relationships are generally a bad idea. Terrible. I hope everyone involved in this make it through as unharmed as possible, even if they probabbly are very harmed already.
EDIT: OF COURSE I could be exaggerating and they may just be friends instead of... well closer haha.
Someone takes breakups with as much dignity as possible, someone not.
I had more harsh break-up recently as well, it was one way thing, i was holding on to those relationships till the last day for 4 years, such abrupt break-up felt disgusting and cheap, but after all - nobody told me or my previous couple a single word about "i personally think what you do sucks, i'd have done differently" and if anyone even said something, they were cut half-word from both sides, that's business of TWO people involved: what they do, how they are holding up after this, do they hate each other or still friends or closer - let them be. Whatever those two say to you or anyone else, maybe in a state of rage or depression or anger for the moment, only THEY know exactly what has been happening between them for real, others can only hear the story, with or without exaggerated moments, with fiction or completely true, but a story. You can not judge what you don't know for sure, even if you heard everything from both sides~
I'm glad that my ex came to her senses after some time and fixed some things between us, making the break up easier and not so bitter. Execution came not from me, but i never wanted to just delete her from my life, circumstances were forcing me after a harsh and sudden break-up. But when some people turn love into hatred right away - i don't, whatever bad and unfair stuff might've happened. It was sorrow, disappointment, but never a hatred. And... Now after dealing with our feelings and remaining issues, my ex and i are again normally and warmly talking, because both actually loved and still love each other.
So think about this - if one loved someone, would they turn their love into hatred immediately and start to turn everyone against their "object of love"? Was it truly love and care before then? Come on... There is nothing harmful in such comic, Iney can freely express her feelings just as someone else can go around and speak whatever they want about me, her or anyone else. I humbly ask to not judge others' relationships and breakups, people know how to handle those the best way for themselves. It happened, for me too. People don't fit sometimes. You can't help it. Nobody can.
I had more harsh break-up recently as well, it was one way thing, i was holding on to those relationships till the last day for 4 years, such abrupt break-up felt disgusting and cheap, but after all - nobody told me or my previous couple a single word about "i personally think what you do sucks, i'd have done differently" and if anyone even said something, they were cut half-word from both sides, that's business of TWO people involved: what they do, how they are holding up after this, do they hate each other or still friends or closer - let them be. Whatever those two say to you or anyone else, maybe in a state of rage or depression or anger for the moment, only THEY know exactly what has been happening between them for real, others can only hear the story, with or without exaggerated moments, with fiction or completely true, but a story. You can not judge what you don't know for sure, even if you heard everything from both sides~
I'm glad that my ex came to her senses after some time and fixed some things between us, making the break up easier and not so bitter. Execution came not from me, but i never wanted to just delete her from my life, circumstances were forcing me after a harsh and sudden break-up. But when some people turn love into hatred right away - i don't, whatever bad and unfair stuff might've happened. It was sorrow, disappointment, but never a hatred. And... Now after dealing with our feelings and remaining issues, my ex and i are again normally and warmly talking, because both actually loved and still love each other.
So think about this - if one loved someone, would they turn their love into hatred immediately and start to turn everyone against their "object of love"? Was it truly love and care before then? Come on... There is nothing harmful in such comic, Iney can freely express her feelings just as someone else can go around and speak whatever they want about me, her or anyone else. I humbly ask to not judge others' relationships and breakups, people know how to handle those the best way for themselves. It happened, for me too. People don't fit sometimes. You can't help it. Nobody can.
I do understand what you're saying and I agree with most of it, I really do. However, the issue is that this has been brought into public, so you kinda have to expect some reaction. If this were kept in private, I would've never said a word :P
This whole comic just raises questions, Karu, that's the problem. Questions like "If you haven't been feeling anything since January, why didn't you break up then? Why did you wait until you had someone else so it feels extra backstabby and hurtful for the other?" - That's what I mean by "not the nice way". Can you now see why a comic like this can come off as disrespectful/harmful? I can totally understand that Iney wants to express her feelings, it's her right to, but in situations like these you should always consider how the other (ex) might react to it as well. I mean, how would you react if someone basically told you "Oh by the way, I've been feeling alone for 6 months now despite you being with me"?
Now, of course I mainly know one side of the story, and this post here paints a bit of the other side. But that's exactly why I'm not judging the relationship or breakup itself. I'm rather criticizing the "methods" used, the course of action being taken, and how it's brought into public in that way. Yes, some people don't fit, and there's nothing I say against that (in fact, I even encouraged that in my post) - but that doesn't mean you can ignore that the other person has feelings as well. All I'm asking for is a bit more... tactfulness, a bit more of empathy, and I don't think that counts as "judging" - sorry if it came off that way.
Hope you can see what I'm trying to say here ^^
PS: Thank you for being so rational about it. It's really nice to see that, despite this being a very difficult topic, we're able to have an open, non-heated discussion.
This whole comic just raises questions, Karu, that's the problem. Questions like "If you haven't been feeling anything since January, why didn't you break up then? Why did you wait until you had someone else so it feels extra backstabby and hurtful for the other?" - That's what I mean by "not the nice way". Can you now see why a comic like this can come off as disrespectful/harmful? I can totally understand that Iney wants to express her feelings, it's her right to, but in situations like these you should always consider how the other (ex) might react to it as well. I mean, how would you react if someone basically told you "Oh by the way, I've been feeling alone for 6 months now despite you being with me"?
Now, of course I mainly know one side of the story, and this post here paints a bit of the other side. But that's exactly why I'm not judging the relationship or breakup itself. I'm rather criticizing the "methods" used, the course of action being taken, and how it's brought into public in that way. Yes, some people don't fit, and there's nothing I say against that (in fact, I even encouraged that in my post) - but that doesn't mean you can ignore that the other person has feelings as well. All I'm asking for is a bit more... tactfulness, a bit more of empathy, and I don't think that counts as "judging" - sorry if it came off that way.
Hope you can see what I'm trying to say here ^^
PS: Thank you for being so rational about it. It's really nice to see that, despite this being a very difficult topic, we're able to have an open, non-heated discussion.
I'd rather not proceed writing walls of texts, but would like to bring your attention to one thing - if you think that everything happened in one day and the couple haven't discussed it or never complained about it, haven't tried to get to a compromise, then you didn't truly understand my words about "you don't know the whole story". Please, don't try to put anyone's actions in a brighter light, there's no "right side". One speaks publicly, without hatred, the other creates rumors from the shadows - both doing what they think are right. I could start judging the other side, but they probably feel better by tossing mud at their ex-beloved instead of taking it with dignity, i named you a recent example of mine as a contrary. So, i can't fix a person there, their right to be so.
Let's drop the topic now. I think i explained everything pretty detailed for that =\
Let's drop the topic now. I think i explained everything pretty detailed for that =\
Well, I don't think that, and as mentioned, I do not know the whole story, all I can see and react to is what's given and how it would make me feel, personally, from what I know. I don't accuse Iney of hatred, never have - it's the tactfulness I'm on about. I've done mistakes like that in the past and they've hurt others and myself, so I just want to try to prevent similar things to happen, for the ones on both the "sending" and the "receiving" end. Ultimately I hope both will be able to look past this and just move on.
Just wanted to get this bit in before closing it. Thank you for your insight, though :)
Just wanted to get this bit in before closing it. Thank you for your insight, though :)
It's hard, yes but it's good to meet new people and just hang out. Say Hi and nothing can go wrong, you cannot go wrong with a hello, the worst that happens is you spoil a chance to make a new friendship. But to be honest, it's worse to never take the chance than take it and flop it, even with failures we learn new ways of doing things for the next time.
But whatever happens, thick and thin you are an amazing artist, and from what I've seen a fantastic person. Wish you the best and hope everything turns up sweet!
But whatever happens, thick and thin you are an amazing artist, and from what I've seen a fantastic person. Wish you the best and hope everything turns up sweet!
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