
Sharps and Trapdoor
A mutant 1853 pattern Sharps with a Nepalese barrel along side a 1866 2nd pattern Trapdoor. The 1853 Sharps were only made in carbine length, but here one is with a 40.25 inch barrel, found in a Nepalese arsenal. It is in the original .54 calibre, using the paper cartridge and percussion pellet system (which still works!) The Trapdoor is simply that, in 50-70. I wanted to post some more real art, and will be doing more "real soon now", but this have been my current distraction, along with the Snider-Enfields and Martini-Henry.
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Very cool finds.
I have a .45-70 Trapdoor Springfield, with the Buffington Sights and that awful Needle bayonet. Pretty accurate, even though it has the trajectory of a rainbow. The thing that always surprises me, is the quality of the machining on Sharps carbines. Really well put together. Yours looks like a Sharps Rifles musket. Once again, Very cool stuff.
I have a .45-70 Trapdoor Springfield, with the Buffington Sights and that awful Needle bayonet. Pretty accurate, even though it has the trajectory of a rainbow. The thing that always surprises me, is the quality of the machining on Sharps carbines. Really well put together. Yours looks like a Sharps Rifles musket. Once again, Very cool stuff.
It is very much the 1853 pattern, though with the crazy long barrel which was not fitted in the model. The barrel is very much Nepalese manufacture, and the ONLY markings on the whole thing is a Nepalese "35" on the barrel. Best guess is that left over (?) 1853 model parts were surplussed out and ended up in Nepal, minus barrels and fore ends, as everything receiver and south looks like proper factory production
It might never have been used in original service(??) and next to never after it was brought to the US in perhaps the 1960s. IMA is offering a few more of these now (at much higher prices). It only has some minor dents, apparently due to storage and practically no wear or rust anywhere on it.
There is a movie called "Valdez is coming" (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt006792.....ef_=fn_al_tt_1) it's not mentioned much, but the sheriff, Valdez, was one of the Sharps shooters. dang things had a range of a Mile. if you could still see the target, you could hit it with that rifle.
Great finds. Love that 1866 Trapdoor - used to have a 1868 model Had a replica Sharps Cav Carbine by Garrett in 50/70 too. Ended up selling both off some time back, just didn't have time to do the bullet casting like i used to for them. Still have a few containers of sized and lubed bullets though.
My 1868 - well it was my Dad's - family member gave it to him in 1940 when he was 10 - was made in early 1869 - 3 digit serial number in the low 800's.
I used to freak folks out at the ranges in the Dallas Texas area when i'd shoot it.
'Nice replica" me: What replica - lock and stock are from 1863 and the barrel is from 1869 - was a century old when the first moon landing occurred.
The replica Sharps - odd story to that one - ran into a young guy who was selling off stuff from his late father - had no idea what he had and thought he'd get 50 bucks for it at a police buy back - Flagstaff PD was doing that for a while. I gave him 70 bucks and he handed me a big bag of loaded rounds - all Bertram brass .50/70
If I can find the pic of that one, I"ll post it. Had it with a 1858 Remington replica and a Green River trade knife - I used to joke it was the Dances with Wolves play set...
I used to freak folks out at the ranges in the Dallas Texas area when i'd shoot it.
'Nice replica" me: What replica - lock and stock are from 1863 and the barrel is from 1869 - was a century old when the first moon landing occurred.
The replica Sharps - odd story to that one - ran into a young guy who was selling off stuff from his late father - had no idea what he had and thought he'd get 50 bucks for it at a police buy back - Flagstaff PD was doing that for a while. I gave him 70 bucks and he handed me a big bag of loaded rounds - all Bertram brass .50/70
If I can find the pic of that one, I"ll post it. Had it with a 1858 Remington replica and a Green River trade knife - I used to joke it was the Dances with Wolves play set...
Where's your silver cast round?
Okay, I know it will destroy your bore, but....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfTgzIGG8e8
Okay, I know it will destroy your bore, but....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfTgzIGG8e8
In modern smokeless arms, especially rifles, silver is a great metal to use, even at jacketed bullet rifle loads. Can't confirm or deny any silver "leading", but doubt it would become an issue, as each bullet would tend to scrub out previous accumulations. I only cautioned for minimal rifling engagements in vintage BP arms as the increases resistance when fired might be a hazard.
In regards to this, I've heard something recently where I heard solid silver rounds are more prone to tumble after leaving the barrel. Unless they are not weighted correctly, I don't see how this could happen. Silver is not exactly a light metal. But I'm not knowledgeable on any type of firearms. Melee weapons are more my thing.
There is nothing intrinsic to silver to make it less stable as a bullet material. The only likely issue is that of poor manufacture, like if it was poorly cast. Bullet weight, in itself, is also not an issue. The factors for bullet stability are those of velocity versus barrel rifling twist rate and bullet length (rather than weight)
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