0--0 There is two of those around my area floating around, one is all black even the rims. Wrapped in limo tint.
The other is all white with chrome rims.
These cars equal <3

Never, EVER call a Skyline photo 'stormtrooper' You have just insulted the best films ever by putting them near a photo of a piece of shit skyline.

Haha, wow, I'm not sure whether to take this comment seriously or not. First of all, "Storm
Trooper White" is what Switzer calls their optional
matte white paint. Not my term, I just think it's fitting. Second, "piece of shit Skyline"? Pretty strong words coming from someone who probably drives his mom's hand-me-down Camry. I don't care if you don't like Nissan, or if you're a muscle car guy or something - if you can't respect a daily-driven car that can keep up with or beat a $1.5M Veyron, you're an idiot, plain and simple.

I drive a Nissan that I bought with my own money, a 2002 Sentra. But just because I like Nissan does NOT mean I have to like the skylines. I do, in fact, think they are shit, just like the Veyron. The skyline requires no skill, just like many modern supercars, because with all the electronic doodads, the car drives itself. The driver is basically useless.

So, basically you're saying it's a piece of shit because it's so good? Give me a break. Now, don't get me wrong, I can sympathize with the complaint that modern cars are, to an extent, becoming less "driver's cars." A pure, raw car with no driver-aids is unlike anything else (have you ever actually driven a "driver's car"?). But to hate a car because it's able to harness cutting-edge technology to squeeze every last bit of performance out of a chassis/tires? Please. Yes, I agree that driver-aids make cars like the GTR easier to drive. But all that's really doing is closing the gap between what a novice driver can do and what an expert driver can do. If you think a shitty driver can hop in a GTR and go head to head with, say, an F1 driver in another GTR, then frankly, you're a fucking idiot, you've probably never driven a car even close to this, and you need to stop talking (I'm thinking it would have been more fitting if you said "the car drives itself, according to Jeremy Clarkson," because that's probably about the extent of the basis of your opinion.)

Sure, the fact that the car is so capable means that a driver might deserve a little less respect for a putting down a quick lap time (if he did it with all the driver-aids on), and you're welcome to dislike a car because it's not a "driver's car" (I can see it being not quite as 'fun' with all the save-your-ass technology), but that doesn't make the car a "piece of shit."

You sound like the kind of guy who hates dual-clutch transmissions without ever actually haven driven one. While I love rowing through the gears in my 6-speed, there's no denying that a dual-clutch transmission is superior on the racetrack. Your logic is to deny the advancement of automotive technology.

Hey, y'know what? F1 drivers must be a bunch of sissy girls, because they use sequential transmissions (and, formerly, traction control). F1-style gearboxes require no skill, and with traction control, any joe-schmo can drive an F1 car at the limit, so fuck F1 cars. They should get -real- driver's cars. Like a 2002 Sentra. Yep.

First off, skylines are a piece of shit, period. Second of all, dual clutch sequentials on street cars are pretty pathetic. Watch the top gear review of the Aston Martin Vantage (I believe it's the Vantage anyway) The "floppy paddle gearbox" as Clarkson calls them actually cause the car to severly jerk. Most other cars with sequential have a severe lag time between button press and actual shift. And I am all for safety advancments, but when you make the car control itself, then the car is ruined. I would rather use no controls and post a shit time so I could say that I myself made it, than make a good lap because the car corrected every mistake. And I enjoy my Sentra because it takes more skill to throw around a basic tech car than to throw around a hightech supersports car IMO.

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I'm going to disregard your first statement, seeing as it's lacking empirical data or logical justification. "Pathetic"? Just answer me this, have you ever actually driven one? Or are you just going off of what you heard on Top Gear or read in a few reviews? You're a fucking sheep. Make some opinions of your own or shut up. If I want to know what Jeremy Clarkson thinks about "flappy paddle gearboxes" I'll watch the show. I don't need a cadre of Clarkson-fanboys parroting his every word as if it were fact.

First of all, no Aston Martin has a dual-clutch gearbox, and you clearly can't consider a review of a mechanized-manual gearbox from one manufacturer as applicable to the whole of dual-clutch gearboxes. Do the "most other cars" you refer to have dual-clutch gearboxes, or just autos with manual-override? (Those suck). My family owns an Audi TT 3.2 Quattro with the DSG, and as much as I like manuals, that is a brilliant piece of automotive engineering. The upshifts are instantaneous, and the rev-matched downshifts are phenomenally smooth. It does both faster than I could. Is it as 'fun'? No, I suppose not. But does it free up a little bit of attention so you can focus more on going around the corner? Hell yes. That's why NO top-tier competitive racing series uses H-gated manuals anymore (NASCAR doesn't count).

Consider this quote from Car and Driver's review of the Porsche Boxster with Porsche's Dual-Clutch Gearbox (PDK): "On the track, even regular automatic operation proved capable, but we loved the sport plus mode, with downshifts in particular being so good in their logic and immediacy that we barely even noticed they’d happened. Indeed, partly because it’s so damn good and partly due to the difficult steering-wheel-mounted thumb buttons involved in manual-mode shifting ... we largely let PDK do its own thing." Yeah, sound pretty terrible to me! </sarcasm>

News flash: No car "controls itself". The car can't see the corner. Advanced drivetrain and stability management systems can detect understeer and oversteer, and bias power to best attempt to dial it out, but there are still very real limits as to what even that can overcome. The car can't find the perfect line. The car can't find the perfect braking point. The car can't guide itself to the apex. If a ham-fisted driver barrels into a corner going 20 mph too fast, will it stop him from killing himself? Probably. But is that lap time going to be as good as a properly-driven lap? Not a chance.

Oh, and I'm sorry, but a car as slow as your Sentra has MUCH more of a safety margin than something like a GTR. Not because of the technology difference, but because its just that much slower.