More Fat Friend Friday art.
While typing up the description for the "Scrappy Sheila" portrait and going into some of the previously unreleased lore surrounding her kind and her world, I remembered I had designed a one-off Petaura using my "possible alternate fursona" color palette but never really did anything with him beyond that one-off drawing.
Not much to say here, really. Just a chubby sugar glider/possum critter with a big round butt and colorful undies being cute. I haven't decided if his kind have any sort of skin flaps or anything akin to real-world sugar gliders, and none of the previous art of this species shows any sort of flaps (although they could be retracted into the body somehow, perhaps, or limited to the armpit and upper-arm area, but in either case they're probably useful as a built-in parachute of sorts but not so helpful for actual gliding), but I have decided that they should have prehensile tails.
As a character, I suppose he's probably some sort of farmer, or maybe a shopkeeper of some variety, at least based off my previous drawing of him where he's holding some sort of alien fruit or vegetable. He does seem rather friendly and cheerful, like someone that might enjoy chatting with customers just a bit too much as they try to find the one or two fruit they need for dinner...
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While typing up the description for the "Scrappy Sheila" portrait and going into some of the previously unreleased lore surrounding her kind and her world, I remembered I had designed a one-off Petaura using my "possible alternate fursona" color palette but never really did anything with him beyond that one-off drawing.
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Fur Affinity ◈ Weasyl Not much to say here, really. Just a chubby sugar glider/possum critter with a big round butt and colorful undies being cute. I haven't decided if his kind have any sort of skin flaps or anything akin to real-world sugar gliders, and none of the previous art of this species shows any sort of flaps (although they could be retracted into the body somehow, perhaps, or limited to the armpit and upper-arm area, but in either case they're probably useful as a built-in parachute of sorts but not so helpful for actual gliding), but I have decided that they should have prehensile tails.
As a character, I suppose he's probably some sort of farmer, or maybe a shopkeeper of some variety, at least based off my previous drawing of him where he's holding some sort of alien fruit or vegetable. He does seem rather friendly and cheerful, like someone that might enjoy chatting with customers just a bit too much as they try to find the one or two fruit they need for dinner...
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That's sort of what I'm thinking, a little table or stall in the marketplace, where he sells the fruit he's grown and harvested.
Maybe some little scenes with shopkeepers displaying their wares would help with the whole "lack of motivation" thing I've been feeling for a while, or at least be an excuse to draw random props and environmental objects and food.
Maybe some little scenes with shopkeepers displaying their wares would help with the whole "lack of motivation" thing I've been feeling for a while, or at least be an excuse to draw random props and environmental objects and food.
That actually does sound quite interesting! I had to pay your galleries a visit to see how you've done this in the past (as an aside, DA seems to actually load for me now, maybe I'll consider uploading there again sometime but that's a rant for another time), it seems you tend to have the membranes sort of bunched up (for lack of a better term) and that definitely keeps them under control... although does that mean they have to take their clothes off to make use of the membranes, or are they more vestigial at this point?
I have noticed that, like quite a few of my characters, yours are anthropomorphic animals living alongside humans and seem to have adopted many human customs, including the clothing. I like thinking about how that might prove challenging for some species--don't ask me *how* my various deer and antelope are able to put on t-shirts!
(Actually, I'm sure a t-shirt designed for horned creatures could just have some sort of snaps in the back or something to allow a larger head opening, akin to a polo shirt...)
In the case of Menno and his kind, I'm not sure I have ever drawn them with any sort of distinguishable membranes or flaps or webs or anything of the sort. Being an alien creature based off gliders and possums, though, I'm sure I could just BS an excuse for their absence. I am sort of leaning towards a set-up where there's extra muscles to retract the membranes up close to the arms (as an aside to that, perhaps these muscles weaken or sag a bit with age, so the elders might have literal "bingo wings"), or perhaps as they evolved, the need for built-in parachutes just sort of made gliding less relevant and the membranes sort of faded as a result--perhaps they only have small membranes tucked up into their armpits now, vaguely useful for slowing or guiding a fall but pretty much useless for any sort of meaningful gliding.
He's also the only one I've ever drawn wearing any sort of shirt, and it was just a one-off, so I guess I could also just sorta dismiss that as non-canon one-off character development stuff and retcon in some flaps at a later point while also saying they never really wear proper shirts because it gets in the way, and their tops tend to be more of the "tunic" or "poncho" variety to accommodate their physiology.
It's definitely something I could play with a bit more when the mood strikes me. I honestly feel like I've stagnated quite a bit but I've also lost most of my motivation to actually push myself to do much besides the same few "safe" things...
I have noticed that, like quite a few of my characters, yours are anthropomorphic animals living alongside humans and seem to have adopted many human customs, including the clothing. I like thinking about how that might prove challenging for some species--don't ask me *how* my various deer and antelope are able to put on t-shirts!
(Actually, I'm sure a t-shirt designed for horned creatures could just have some sort of snaps in the back or something to allow a larger head opening, akin to a polo shirt...)
In the case of Menno and his kind, I'm not sure I have ever drawn them with any sort of distinguishable membranes or flaps or webs or anything of the sort. Being an alien creature based off gliders and possums, though, I'm sure I could just BS an excuse for their absence. I am sort of leaning towards a set-up where there's extra muscles to retract the membranes up close to the arms (as an aside to that, perhaps these muscles weaken or sag a bit with age, so the elders might have literal "bingo wings"), or perhaps as they evolved, the need for built-in parachutes just sort of made gliding less relevant and the membranes sort of faded as a result--perhaps they only have small membranes tucked up into their armpits now, vaguely useful for slowing or guiding a fall but pretty much useless for any sort of meaningful gliding.
He's also the only one I've ever drawn wearing any sort of shirt, and it was just a one-off, so I guess I could also just sorta dismiss that as non-canon one-off character development stuff and retcon in some flaps at a later point while also saying they never really wear proper shirts because it gets in the way, and their tops tend to be more of the "tunic" or "poncho" variety to accommodate their physiology.
It's definitely something I could play with a bit more when the mood strikes me. I honestly feel like I've stagnated quite a bit but I've also lost most of my motivation to actually push myself to do much besides the same few "safe" things...
In a a few of mine the patagium or gliding membrane dose tend to hang at the end of sleeved garments like arm flab. In one case a female sugar glider folds it forward to fill the bust of an evening dress. In bigger characters I imagine it being more vestigial because it wouldn't do much to stop someone human sized from moving. I like your idea that it might become more pronounced with age.
For smaller characters it gets a lot harder. Little round bodies with a lot of extra skin have frustrated me for a while now. I keep wanting to draw a Russian flying squirrel character but it always gets hung up in the sketches. They have these adorable round little pingpong ball heads, but I can't make those equally round flappy bodies look right or figure out how to clothe them.
The deer shirt thing is actually a conversation I've had with a few other people. I usually have bucks wearing button up shirts. I think it could be something to explore when it comes to how that might affect them as a culture when it comes to season and gender specific clothing norms that the shirt antler problem might create.
For smaller characters it gets a lot harder. Little round bodies with a lot of extra skin have frustrated me for a while now. I keep wanting to draw a Russian flying squirrel character but it always gets hung up in the sketches. They have these adorable round little pingpong ball heads, but I can't make those equally round flappy bodies look right or figure out how to clothe them.
The deer shirt thing is actually a conversation I've had with a few other people. I usually have bucks wearing button up shirts. I think it could be something to explore when it comes to how that might affect them as a culture when it comes to season and gender specific clothing norms that the shirt antler problem might create.
When I looked at my very first one-off doodle of what eventually became this species, it's clear to me that I was at least thinking of working in more of the glider aspect, even though I didn't draw it with any noticeable membranes back then, either. Even then I acknowledged that I was going for some sort of possum/glider hybrid. It seems as time went on, the physiology went more "possum" while the coloration stayed "sugar glider", so maybe I can just go with what I was thinking recently, and have the flaps retractable somehow. It might make for a rather dramatic display to have one jump from a high place (I imagine these guys living in treehouses not unlike the Ewoks and Wookiees do), only to unfurl previously hidden gliding flaps to slow their fall, and then engage in some further acrobatics with their prehensile possum tail, and then take to climbing rather expertly with the aid of their claws to harvest fruit or whatever purpose they had in jumping to another tree--or maybe they're just being a show-off in the presence of members of other species.
Of course, in reality, the membranes extend from wrist to ankle so if they're wearing any sort of clothing at all it seems like that might get in the way, so perhaps some sort of stylization that has the patagium ending somewhere on the torso instead could come into play.
I do quite like the idea of a sugar glider using her "wings" as a bit of impromptu bust enhancement, but that does raise another question I think about fairly often when it comes to furry art, giving female characters humanoid breasts, especially on non-mammal creatures. What are your thoughts on that? I suppose a lot of that does come down to aesthetics, and with less realistic and more "cartoony" styles, a lot more liberties can be taken in that regard.
I do get the feeling that in mixed company, especially when said "mixed company" includes humans, there would be a lot of blending of fashion. Would, say, reptilian females wear bras at the beach even if they have nothing on their chest to cover, just because it's customary?
I had to look up these flying squirrels, and what I found sort of reminds me of a hybrid of a dwarf hamster and a flying squirrel. I can definitely see the appeal. As for dressing one, though, I'm not sure. Perhaps something a bit more "primitive" like a loincloth of some variety, and not much else? As I'm unsure what sort of customs are in place in your universe, would actual clothing even be necessary in this case, or could they simply get by with things that are more along the lines of fashion accessories rather than actual clothing that covers their bodies in a meaningful way?
I have noticed your art style is much more realistic and detailed and grounded in reality than my own, something I do need to work on a bit more. I fully acknowledge I'm just doodling cartoons and perhaps I put a bit too much thought into random things like how deer would wear shirts, but only *after* I have drawn bucks with full racks of antlers wearing what is clearly a t-shirt, with no visible buttons or snaps whatsoever. It's not just deer, either, but a variety of antelope and other random horned creatures that I seem to draw wearing off-the-shelf t-shirts despite there being little logical explanation of how said shirt could even get onto them. In those cases I would probably just explain it away as there being some sort of snaps or buttons or Velcro in the back, as I do tend to notice and wonder about stuff like that myself fairly often, but not often enough to actually let it affect my designs.
This whole issue could be resolved if I just stuck to giving the horned creatures button-up shirts and similar garments that open in the front, but where's the fun in that?
Of course, in reality, the membranes extend from wrist to ankle so if they're wearing any sort of clothing at all it seems like that might get in the way, so perhaps some sort of stylization that has the patagium ending somewhere on the torso instead could come into play.
I do quite like the idea of a sugar glider using her "wings" as a bit of impromptu bust enhancement, but that does raise another question I think about fairly often when it comes to furry art, giving female characters humanoid breasts, especially on non-mammal creatures. What are your thoughts on that? I suppose a lot of that does come down to aesthetics, and with less realistic and more "cartoony" styles, a lot more liberties can be taken in that regard.
I do get the feeling that in mixed company, especially when said "mixed company" includes humans, there would be a lot of blending of fashion. Would, say, reptilian females wear bras at the beach even if they have nothing on their chest to cover, just because it's customary?
I had to look up these flying squirrels, and what I found sort of reminds me of a hybrid of a dwarf hamster and a flying squirrel. I can definitely see the appeal. As for dressing one, though, I'm not sure. Perhaps something a bit more "primitive" like a loincloth of some variety, and not much else? As I'm unsure what sort of customs are in place in your universe, would actual clothing even be necessary in this case, or could they simply get by with things that are more along the lines of fashion accessories rather than actual clothing that covers their bodies in a meaningful way?
I have noticed your art style is much more realistic and detailed and grounded in reality than my own, something I do need to work on a bit more. I fully acknowledge I'm just doodling cartoons and perhaps I put a bit too much thought into random things like how deer would wear shirts, but only *after* I have drawn bucks with full racks of antlers wearing what is clearly a t-shirt, with no visible buttons or snaps whatsoever. It's not just deer, either, but a variety of antelope and other random horned creatures that I seem to draw wearing off-the-shelf t-shirts despite there being little logical explanation of how said shirt could even get onto them. In those cases I would probably just explain it away as there being some sort of snaps or buttons or Velcro in the back, as I do tend to notice and wonder about stuff like that myself fairly often, but not often enough to actually let it affect my designs.
This whole issue could be resolved if I just stuck to giving the horned creatures button-up shirts and similar garments that open in the front, but where's the fun in that?
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