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They aren't trying to startle Lippie, and aren't purposely ignoring her yelps; it's just that it happens so often, it kinda blends into the background after a while.
Caedere did the character colors n' shades
(High-res version over on my Patreon!)
They aren't trying to startle Lippie, and aren't purposely ignoring her yelps; it's just that it happens so often, it kinda blends into the background after a while.
Caedere did the character colors n' shades(High-res version over on my Patreon!)
Category Artwork (Digital) / Comics
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File Size 1.62 MB
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depends on the library! most only enforce quiet in a specific area or study room; the main area will often have spots for children to play so no point in trying to maintain quietness in the main area. My sister's a librarian and would really like people to speak up a bit more when asking her questions, she doesn't have the best hearing
Valsalia hasn't mastered the ol' wood block or movable type printing press yet, I take it. So if there's no monastic orders (that we've seen) how does the scribe industry work, I wonder. Are scribes solely hired by ruling dynasties?
I do hope they let Pekkit checkout the good stuff this time around.
I do hope they let Pekkit checkout the good stuff this time around.
I feel like it's bold to assume they don't have any kind of printing press when their world is littered with pieces of ancient but advanced technology that they can try to reverse engineer. As for monastic orders, there's really no rule saying that things have to be written by monastic orders, as while that was the case for a relatively brief period in our own history it was also still very possible for anyone to write a book as long as they knew how.
Monastic orders didn't invent the printing press, block printing OR movable type. They were drawn to them as means to more broadly cast their religious ideas, but Chinese Emperors were ordering things printed by around 650 AD, in our years through block printing. The oldest complete book was indeed a buddhist scroll at the time, but only after it was invented and its inventor was in Imperial emply.
The books that made ceramic movable type famous were things like "The Book of Farming" near abouts 1040 AD. Clay was far cheaper for the common man but more fragile, took about a century to perfect wooden movable printing, and it took almost 300 years before both methods migrated through central asia to germany. Guttanberg's innovation focused largely on mechanization, perfecting metal print, and I guess an organization system to produce movable print frames faster for weekly newspapers and such.
The books that made ceramic movable type famous were things like "The Book of Farming" near abouts 1040 AD. Clay was far cheaper for the common man but more fragile, took about a century to perfect wooden movable printing, and it took almost 300 years before both methods migrated through central asia to germany. Guttanberg's innovation focused largely on mechanization, perfecting metal print, and I guess an organization system to produce movable print frames faster for weekly newspapers and such.
My point is that in China, the printing press was largely *used* by the ruling dynasties as a useful tool, but in no way was it *only* available to the emperor and their government, though im sure the emperor could afford such luxuries far easier than most. The book that made chinese block printing famous may have been a buddhist scroll, but chinese movable print was made famous by "The Book of Farming" which taught then advanced farming techniques. Libraries became status symbols and anyone with money could now put to use any reading skill they developed. It was targeted by religion, but wasn't itself a religious invention.
The whole point of monastic scribes was the continuing motivation and dedication such works take, and its clear that money is just as good a motivation in the short term, its just harder to sustain by a single company, as seen by how Gutenberg himself fared after his invention was reverse engineered.
HIS motivations were ultimately religious, but in China theres plenty of evidence that the information era was not nearly as focused on monestaries, religion and such but was instead based in both government and private sector education-for-profit programs.
My point is that religion is only one such motivation to invent a printing press. In China it was adopted more for governance, particularly making non fraudable paper money. The public also had uses that grew in popularity and itself created a "middle" learned class beneath merchants able to hire tutors.
More or less, block printing is a mirrored carving by impression of a freshly inked page and is cheaper and in lower tech times faster for dozens or under a few hundred versions of a moderately printed article. Movable type meaning single characters mounted on a frame per single page, was more time consuming for projects expecting to print fewer than many hundreds of copies, but then saved far more time against block printing after a certain point where blocks would start to wear and gunk up with dried ink, needing recarving or as lengthy a repair, viable once or twice anyways. Useful for bringing the numbers into solid hundreds, to thousands of copies before repair and reframing was necessary.
For something like the Val Salian reader, it reads to me to be a highly organized movable print operation, which was hard but possible with process and discipline, as long as you have enough of the letters made as you need its possible to organize many page frames to be worked on simultaneously by different members of staff. So maybe a dozen sets for each print blocker, and its clear Val Salia at least has the trade necessary to get the metal. Cheaper bronze will do.
In Val Salia theres reason to make something for HUNDREDS of people, but not exactly thousands unless they export such books, due to likely literacy rates, plus the variety of languages. So it could be either or. But knowing Viracrox's stated goals for knowledge, its likely he has the interest for that technology and the necessary innovation, organization, work force etc.. To give that work force practice in the form of weekly or faster news articles/pamphlets, and to gather knowledge for this purported use. It would make more sense to me if he was focusing on the movable print option which has greater potential, which was eventually mechanized into the well known printing press.
A lot of words to say: not necessarily.
The whole point of monastic scribes was the continuing motivation and dedication such works take, and its clear that money is just as good a motivation in the short term, its just harder to sustain by a single company, as seen by how Gutenberg himself fared after his invention was reverse engineered.
HIS motivations were ultimately religious, but in China theres plenty of evidence that the information era was not nearly as focused on monestaries, religion and such but was instead based in both government and private sector education-for-profit programs.
My point is that religion is only one such motivation to invent a printing press. In China it was adopted more for governance, particularly making non fraudable paper money. The public also had uses that grew in popularity and itself created a "middle" learned class beneath merchants able to hire tutors.
More or less, block printing is a mirrored carving by impression of a freshly inked page and is cheaper and in lower tech times faster for dozens or under a few hundred versions of a moderately printed article. Movable type meaning single characters mounted on a frame per single page, was more time consuming for projects expecting to print fewer than many hundreds of copies, but then saved far more time against block printing after a certain point where blocks would start to wear and gunk up with dried ink, needing recarving or as lengthy a repair, viable once or twice anyways. Useful for bringing the numbers into solid hundreds, to thousands of copies before repair and reframing was necessary.
For something like the Val Salian reader, it reads to me to be a highly organized movable print operation, which was hard but possible with process and discipline, as long as you have enough of the letters made as you need its possible to organize many page frames to be worked on simultaneously by different members of staff. So maybe a dozen sets for each print blocker, and its clear Val Salia at least has the trade necessary to get the metal. Cheaper bronze will do.
In Val Salia theres reason to make something for HUNDREDS of people, but not exactly thousands unless they export such books, due to likely literacy rates, plus the variety of languages. So it could be either or. But knowing Viracrox's stated goals for knowledge, its likely he has the interest for that technology and the necessary innovation, organization, work force etc.. To give that work force practice in the form of weekly or faster news articles/pamphlets, and to gather knowledge for this purported use. It would make more sense to me if he was focusing on the movable print option which has greater potential, which was eventually mechanized into the well known printing press.
A lot of words to say: not necessarily.
I hear some people saying they got a feeling the books were eaten, which would make me feel sad for Pekkit if that were true. On a side note, I don't entirely believe yinglets eat books; instead, I think the librarians were just stereotyping. Even that is sad, but I'm glad Pekkit is determined to show them wrong. Overall, I'm very interested in how this develops.
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