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>.> I wouldn't say goth.

Well I can tell you this, No real goth would dare wear Snake bites.

And there are plenty of goth furries too { :  gothfurs I've yet to see an emo group XD

Goth isn't about darkness and who's darker. Its more about...well music, yet with a love for dark clothing. We tend to get the Thugs in there which make it look like, its a bad thing when really... its just a bunch of people who have a different look on life, and also, here is some real goth music... nothing Manson or Cradle of Filth related at all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH9ete7kDlg

HEY I'M HALF GOTH AND HALF EMO AND HALF SCENE so this is offensive

Lol, yeah, that's not Goth. Real Goth poetry is about beauty, in a dark twisted way, and really, no one cares about conformists or things like that { : We be happy people Lol. And I like his Old stuff :D

No, I'm actually talking about the Elder Goths, the ones Who was originally there when it became known in the 80s. Just as anything, hollywood gets a hold of it, then the people who watch it think they are like what hollywood said, and start to fake it, and because its such a cool looking subculture people get into it having expectations when they really don't research and dig for the truth.

I don't doubt it. My mom is 53, and well, Lol, I got her into the real subculture on one of our trips and well.. She won't admit it, but she actually had fun