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Yeah, I really do miss fencing, the ONLY sport I really like (with Sumo, but I am the complete opposite of a sumotori !!! XD ). I like it so much than despite having abandonned it more than ten years ago, I realized when I drew that I still know all the details and sewings of a fencing uniform !!! *sigh*
Yes, my legs are a little short in this pic, because once again I misjudged the available room on my sheet... ^^'''' And despite the fact that these are my legs that give me all my height (they are not "normally" proportionned to the rest of my body, which prevents me from driving almost all cars, including 4x4) - a backdraft in fencing, but I learnt to compensate with extreme agility.
One of the things that fencing brought me also, is the unability to walk with "classic" shoes made for town, they are not flexible and smooth enough and rapidly make me nauseous...
And yes, last thing, this face here is the best realistic compromise between the Squeetah and my real face for the moment... ;D
Yes, my legs are a little short in this pic, because once again I misjudged the available room on my sheet... ^^'''' And despite the fact that these are my legs that give me all my height (they are not "normally" proportionned to the rest of my body, which prevents me from driving almost all cars, including 4x4) - a backdraft in fencing, but I learnt to compensate with extreme agility.
One of the things that fencing brought me also, is the unability to walk with "classic" shoes made for town, they are not flexible and smooth enough and rapidly make me nauseous...
And yes, last thing, this face here is the best realistic compromise between the Squeetah and my real face for the moment... ;D
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Tu as commencé par le sabre ??? 0.o Malheureux !!!! Autant demander à quelqu'un qui n'a jamais vu plus d'eau que dans une baignoire de traverser le channel à la nage... Le sabre, à moins d'être spécialement doué, on n'y vient qu'après au moins une demi-douzaine de fleuret et/ou d'épée !!!!!!!!
Haha, well I actually stuck around (somehow made varsity too), I just didn't really do anything. My varsity record was 1-1!
Well, over the summer I'm hoping to do a bit of it to help me get back into shape. If you can find the time you should try and find a club near you and get back into it. College is keeping me a little too busy right now otherwise I'd do the same.
Well, over the summer I'm hoping to do a bit of it to help me get back into shape. If you can find the time you should try and find a club near you and get back into it. College is keeping me a little too busy right now otherwise I'd do the same.
Erf! get back into it. I know even around here there is places to practice and train. I think if you still have the stuff its not that expencive. I always wanted to get into sumo, more I mean the watching of, but you just cant get japanese tv around here -.- Nifty likeness too :D
Mmmmh... It is much more expensive than many other sports anyway, but the real problem, as always, is... time.
As for Sumo, for "material reasons" (the channel that broadcasted those was not available anymore), I stopped watching it soon before the end of the Ake-Taka period, one of the best ever as far as I know... :)
As for Sumo, for "material reasons" (the channel that broadcasted those was not available anymore), I stopped watching it soon before the end of the Ake-Taka period, one of the best ever as far as I know... :)
That's your opinion and you've got the right to have it. Anyway, you probably never saw a real competition at high level, it doesn't look ridiculous at all then. Beauty of the movements, rapidity, precision... Playing with amateurs is easy, not with people who got a few years of fencing behind them..............
Perhaps, but the guy will be so slowed down and embarrassed in his movements by his armor, as light as it may be (but enough to "protect" him from blades, so it will certainly weight much), that the fencer will have plenty of time to chose the best weak point and rapidly shoot the fatal attack.
With the proper strategy, light armor but high-mobility always overwhelmed heavy-protection but slow adversaries.
Anyway, to come back to the subject, may I remind you once again that you are talking about something made for shows as I'm talking about efficiency, for every movement of the first, the second got at the same time at least five occasions to shoot to kill, whatever the protection. that's something that always made me lightly laugh since I began fencing, all those films with plenty of beautiful movements... totally useless and irrealistic, you'd be dead in less than a dozen seconds in a real fight doing that.
With the proper strategy, light armor but high-mobility always overwhelmed heavy-protection but slow adversaries.
Anyway, to come back to the subject, may I remind you once again that you are talking about something made for shows as I'm talking about efficiency, for every movement of the first, the second got at the same time at least five occasions to shoot to kill, whatever the protection. that's something that always made me lightly laugh since I began fencing, all those films with plenty of beautiful movements... totally useless and irrealistic, you'd be dead in less than a dozen seconds in a real fight doing that.
I believe you are being misunderstood. Fencing is a sport, and no fencing sword is actually able to cut at all. Using a rapier is not fencing. Moves are different, and you can kill with it. A fencing guy will just only hinder his own movements and a real swordman will either outfast him and just wait the opportunity, since a fencing guy open his flanks and can't see outside of just his front. I read a good book on that.
Well, as for myself, I did not read that book, I PRACTISED, and I can tell you it's far more difficult to touch the flank, especially of a fencer who got the right defensive position, than the entire front of somebody who can only protect the side his arm is armed. As for the vision, it seems evident those guys who read the book NEVER tried fencing, with or without a mask. That's all I will add on the subject.
Ah oui, t'as raison, je ne l'avais pas vu!... Avec ta barbe tu me fais penser à un mousquetaire!!.. Un pour tous!.. Dingue le nombre de de personne qui fait de l'escrime sur ce site! Bon enfin, sinon j'ai rien compris pour les chaussures..Mais celles que tu as dessiné sont les "officielles"? C'est homologué ça?? Et comment ça bip la combinaison quand on est touché? Tu as raison, j'ai pleins de questions... ^^'''
LOL LOL LOL ^^
L'effet mousquetaire, c'était voulu - je n'avais pas le bouc à l'époque, mais je l'ai rajouté ici car je trouve que ça va bien ensemble, non ? ^^
Pour les chaussures, c'est simple : si je ne porte plus que des baskets déguisées en chaussures de ville, c'est à cause de l'escrime. Ce sport demande une telle souplesse du pied que progressivement, je ne pouvais plus supporter les chaussures classiques, ma dernière paire a failli me faire vomir à quelques mètres de chez moi car chaque appui du talon sur le sol me remontait jusqu'à l'estomac !!!!
Bon, pas contre, celles-ci ne sont pas "officielles" XD Il leur manque d'ailleurs la languette qui protège l'avant... Et c'est justement la seule partie de la combinaison qui ne soit pas spécialement étudiée pour ce sport, tu peux faire de l'escrime avec n'importe quelle paire de baskets du moment qu'elles ne déparent pas du reste (toute blanche de préférence) et qu'elles ne soient pas agressives vis-à-vis du revêtement du sol, qui est grillagé pour le fleuret.
Pour les touches, c'est différent pour les trois armes, fleuret, épée et sabre.
*Pour le fleuret, seuls le plastron et le dos sont autorisés pour la touche (sinon c'est fausse touche), ils sont donc revêtus d'une combinaison conductrice, le contact avec la mouche (le bout) du fleuret fait passer un courant électrique qui valide la touche uniquement sur cette surface conductrice.
*Pour l'épée et le sabre, toutes les parties du corps sont autorisées, à la différence qu'à l'épée on ne touche qu'avec la pointe, alors que l'on peut (c'est même recommandé) également toucher du tranchant (l'estoc) du sabre. Pour l'épée comme pour le fleuret, la mouche est donc en deux parties, le bout étant monté sur ressort (dont la sensibilité est réglée avec précision et testée à chaque début d'échange). Quand ce bout est pressé sur l'adversaire, il s'enfonce et établi alors un contact électrique dans la lame même pour l'épée -donc où que l'on touche- ou pour le fleuret entre la lame et la combinaison conductrice, qui établit un double feedback électrique et valide la touche (en-dehors des règles très strictes de parade/riposte), ou un simple feedback si c'est en-dehors de cette partie et invalide la touche.
Autre chose ? ^^
L'effet mousquetaire, c'était voulu - je n'avais pas le bouc à l'époque, mais je l'ai rajouté ici car je trouve que ça va bien ensemble, non ? ^^
Pour les chaussures, c'est simple : si je ne porte plus que des baskets déguisées en chaussures de ville, c'est à cause de l'escrime. Ce sport demande une telle souplesse du pied que progressivement, je ne pouvais plus supporter les chaussures classiques, ma dernière paire a failli me faire vomir à quelques mètres de chez moi car chaque appui du talon sur le sol me remontait jusqu'à l'estomac !!!!
Bon, pas contre, celles-ci ne sont pas "officielles" XD Il leur manque d'ailleurs la languette qui protège l'avant... Et c'est justement la seule partie de la combinaison qui ne soit pas spécialement étudiée pour ce sport, tu peux faire de l'escrime avec n'importe quelle paire de baskets du moment qu'elles ne déparent pas du reste (toute blanche de préférence) et qu'elles ne soient pas agressives vis-à-vis du revêtement du sol, qui est grillagé pour le fleuret.
Pour les touches, c'est différent pour les trois armes, fleuret, épée et sabre.
*Pour le fleuret, seuls le plastron et le dos sont autorisés pour la touche (sinon c'est fausse touche), ils sont donc revêtus d'une combinaison conductrice, le contact avec la mouche (le bout) du fleuret fait passer un courant électrique qui valide la touche uniquement sur cette surface conductrice.
*Pour l'épée et le sabre, toutes les parties du corps sont autorisées, à la différence qu'à l'épée on ne touche qu'avec la pointe, alors que l'on peut (c'est même recommandé) également toucher du tranchant (l'estoc) du sabre. Pour l'épée comme pour le fleuret, la mouche est donc en deux parties, le bout étant monté sur ressort (dont la sensibilité est réglée avec précision et testée à chaque début d'échange). Quand ce bout est pressé sur l'adversaire, il s'enfonce et établi alors un contact électrique dans la lame même pour l'épée -donc où que l'on touche- ou pour le fleuret entre la lame et la combinaison conductrice, qui établit un double feedback électrique et valide la touche (en-dehors des règles très strictes de parade/riposte), ou un simple feedback si c'est en-dehors de cette partie et invalide la touche.
Autre chose ? ^^
Oh, BTW, a friend once broke his blade on my chest, I had a wide blue area that hurt a whole week ! A direct hit also broke my watch once (I was stupid to keep it on) - but I realized this only at home -, I took a hit in the throat I felt two whole days, and so on... Saber may hurt more, but it's less dangerous !!!! XD XD XD
LOOOOL
Oui, et c'est venu tout seul : au départ, j'avais dans l'idée de faire un écupard "classique" (si tu regardes les traites de construction de la tête, ils sont un peu plus rondouillards que le résultat final), et puis au fur et à mesure, j'ai décidé de rajouter le bouc, puis de faire un visage plus conforme à la réalité (je me suis regardé dans la glace pour faire les sourcils par exemple !)...
J'ai déjà inclus certaines parties de moi dans d'autres dessins, un de ces jours vous aurez le Madox dans son ensemble en rassemblant tous les morceaux !!! LOL
Oui, et c'est venu tout seul : au départ, j'avais dans l'idée de faire un écupard "classique" (si tu regardes les traites de construction de la tête, ils sont un peu plus rondouillards que le résultat final), et puis au fur et à mesure, j'ai décidé de rajouter le bouc, puis de faire un visage plus conforme à la réalité (je me suis regardé dans la glace pour faire les sourcils par exemple !)...
J'ai déjà inclus certaines parties de moi dans d'autres dessins, un de ces jours vous aurez le Madox dans son ensemble en rassemblant tous les morceaux !!! LOL
Saber not dangerious?..Unfortunately not so..
I once witnessed a match in London back years ago. One fellow was caught in the chest with a powerful lunge by his opponant. Despite his protective vest and the rubber tip on the blade - the point pierced the man's heart. "It's alright.." he said - then the blade was withdrawn by his shocked opponant. His white fencing uniform turned red - and the man dropped dead on the spot. I kid you not.
I once witnessed a match in London back years ago. One fellow was caught in the chest with a powerful lunge by his opponant. Despite his protective vest and the rubber tip on the blade - the point pierced the man's heart. "It's alright.." he said - then the blade was withdrawn by his shocked opponant. His white fencing uniform turned red - and the man dropped dead on the spot. I kid you not.
My, I NEVER said saber was not dangerous !!! I do believe you without any question, people "who died without noticing it immediatly" are not that uncommon. You must have been quite shocked, seeing somebody dying almost in front of you is not an harmless experience...
While I was doing fencing, I've heard a somehow similar story (and true, newspaper spoke about it after) during a competition : an épée that broke passed through the mask (and the head) of the adversary. Hopefully, all those accidents are very rare, the weared gear is incredibly resistant !!
While I was doing fencing, I've heard a somehow similar story (and true, newspaper spoke about it after) during a competition : an épée that broke passed through the mask (and the head) of the adversary. Hopefully, all those accidents are very rare, the weared gear is incredibly resistant !!
Saber ? Wow, I'm always SO impressed by those who are into that branch... Yes, you probably lost much, but I also think that's something you can re-learn very fast - I'm always surprised to see some reflexes I got to keep balance for example, that come from my fencing days, and that was 15 to 20 years ago !!
<--- Foil / Epee
It's the best sport I've joined. I was lucky enough to find myself an Olympic coach. Now we're in the process of certifying myself. lol
The head coach is making beginners start left handed regardless of preference or ability. What a hard ass! XD
Honestly, the team consensus is that saber is a charity weapon. (Free points even if you suck). All of the fencing jokes I've heard are about saber. Not sure why, but a lot of people I talk to agree. >.>
It's the best sport I've joined. I was lucky enough to find myself an Olympic coach. Now we're in the process of certifying myself. lol
The head coach is making beginners start left handed regardless of preference or ability. What a hard ass! XD
Honestly, the team consensus is that saber is a charity weapon. (Free points even if you suck). All of the fencing jokes I've heard are about saber. Not sure why, but a lot of people I talk to agree. >.>
Strange - for me, saber was way ahead from my capacities, and indeed only two people in the coach I was in, of more than twenty people, actually tried it. I said to myself I would try it later when I'll be OK with foil, but it never happened as I had to abandon this sport I loved...
Why'd you have to quit?
to tell the truth, starting with foil and taking what you learn into the saber realm will put you with the best of the saberists. The one's who are VERY good at saber tend to only be able to do saber. I fenced our team saber dude a few weeks ago and kicked his but because he had forgotten how to fence foil and epee. lol
to tell the truth, starting with foil and taking what you learn into the saber realm will put you with the best of the saberists. The one's who are VERY good at saber tend to only be able to do saber. I fenced our team saber dude a few weeks ago and kicked his but because he had forgotten how to fence foil and epee. lol
Lack of time alas. Plus moved where it was more difficult to get a good team.
Mmmmh, I see what you mean for saber. With all the rules from the other weapons, people coming from there are far more technic while saber requires rapidity above all. You can more easily go from one to the other than the contrary...
Mmmmh, I see what you mean for saber. With all the rules from the other weapons, people coming from there are far more technic while saber requires rapidity above all. You can more easily go from one to the other than the contrary...
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