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I being wondering about some traders if they got vehicles to drive around in (more likely metallurgy clan of derkir traders) as can see them using a steam powered vehicle early on (like one in anime Dr. Stone) before getting more advance vehicle due knowledge on magic. Also I can see that type group being more restrictive with language with consider disrespectful for someone to speak improperly and I can see them being one few groups tha Salivia are nice to due fact that type technology being somewhat out there knowledge.
As someone who has seen doctor stone it's not exactly a realistic show, mostly just a fantasy premise that passes and ignores a lot of realistic factors that go into making something like a steam powered vehicle. You need more than just copper metallurgy, you need tools, resource acquisition and transportation infrastructure (to get resource to manufacture location). Of course you need massive large scale and industrialized metallurgy. Finally you would need the ability and knowhow to construct every part of a steam engine (that most people wouldn't know how to build anyways) etc.
And you would need to have a secure amount of food, a steady flow of labor and free time to do so. These are hunter gatherer societies so while there is some free time, there is not at all a steady and secure surplus of food that would warrant them doing any of this.
And again this is just on the assumption that there is some guy who just, for no justifiable reason, knows a steam engine so well that he can build one from scratch. Steam engines are a product of the industrial revolution and all the interlocking and complimentary elements of infrastructure, labor, agriculture and manufacture technology that made them possible. Something that would be unreal to expect of anything short of an industrial society.
It's fun to watch but not at all realistic in a situation that is remotely grounded. It will certainly take drekir thousands of years before they really get into motorized vehicles. It's one of those fantasy conceptions people have about the post apocalypse that really isn't backed up by real world ethnographic, historical, and archaeological account and would be impossible in the DragonScape.
And you would need to have a secure amount of food, a steady flow of labor and free time to do so. These are hunter gatherer societies so while there is some free time, there is not at all a steady and secure surplus of food that would warrant them doing any of this.
And again this is just on the assumption that there is some guy who just, for no justifiable reason, knows a steam engine so well that he can build one from scratch. Steam engines are a product of the industrial revolution and all the interlocking and complimentary elements of infrastructure, labor, agriculture and manufacture technology that made them possible. Something that would be unreal to expect of anything short of an industrial society.
It's fun to watch but not at all realistic in a situation that is remotely grounded. It will certainly take drekir thousands of years before they really get into motorized vehicles. It's one of those fantasy conceptions people have about the post apocalypse that really isn't backed up by real world ethnographic, historical, and archaeological account and would be impossible in the DragonScape.
it took my grandfather years, but he did eventually come through the rescources to make a miniature steam engine for his grandkids. Granted, the whole town relied on him for plumbing and was well known at the church...
So my situation was special, he knew what he was doing with the copper and metal work from his career as an aircraft maintenance man with the USAF and being a plumber for 35+ years..
But...It is kinda possible? But yeah, I agree that it's not feasible in the dragonscape as presented in Dr. Stone.
So my situation was special, he knew what he was doing with the copper and metal work from his career as an aircraft maintenance man with the USAF and being a plumber for 35+ years..
But...It is kinda possible? But yeah, I agree that it's not feasible in the dragonscape as presented in Dr. Stone.
Well it is cool that your grandfather went through all that work! Smart guy
... Though in regards to the DragonScape situation this sitll wouldn't be possible even for a guy of his calibre.
Indirectly people have done a lot of that work, gathering and processing large amounts of copper (and presumably other metals) in a state that he could easily take and repurpose, plus a person who specifically has had several decades of continuous work in this sort of field, plus all the presumably modern tools that he must have used to build it (Soldering, modern hammers and heating equipment, etc.)
In other words he is an exceptionally brilliant and smart and skilled guy who was backed up by the infrastructure, tools, and lack of need to worry too much about finding and processing his own food to really dedicate his time to it.
Even in cases like this it is a wider complex system of things at play that allow geniuses like your grandfather to do the things he does.
... Though in regards to the DragonScape situation this sitll wouldn't be possible even for a guy of his calibre.
Indirectly people have done a lot of that work, gathering and processing large amounts of copper (and presumably other metals) in a state that he could easily take and repurpose, plus a person who specifically has had several decades of continuous work in this sort of field, plus all the presumably modern tools that he must have used to build it (Soldering, modern hammers and heating equipment, etc.)
In other words he is an exceptionally brilliant and smart and skilled guy who was backed up by the infrastructure, tools, and lack of need to worry too much about finding and processing his own food to really dedicate his time to it.
Even in cases like this it is a wider complex system of things at play that allow geniuses like your grandfather to do the things he does.
The Derkkir are about as advanced technologically as the Pre-columbian Native Americans, but they did breach the bronze age, and the Drekkir have a thing called Mana-Metal apparently, how well they can advance that quickly remains to be seen, or how strong it is comapred to trying to recycle some of the old steel to make something like a Sailcart, using wind power on the flat plains of the Snake River valley where they can. It's windy enough to create dunes, its also windy enough to drive a sailcart IMHO. Steam is wonderful, but wind power came before it on the technology ladder.
It's not quite the bronze age as the bronze age requires the use of bronze, not copper. Copper weapons and tools were a neolithic invention, then somebody eventually figured out that the silvery, useless metal that screeched when it was bent made copper stronger when the two were mixed.
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