...oh.
Shit, better hope Nigel isn't still around

I get the feeling Toby would want Nigel to turn his life around... And knows his brother is watching.

Right, I agree. But I really doubt Nigel will be happy to see him

Its unlikely he would be happy, Nigel, I mean.

I bet Nigel would get real jealous of seeing Toby for a while

If Toby is anything like his parents, which seems likely, he probably doesn't hold Nigel in high regard

All things considered, Toby being a guard rather than a Guardian may have had him be disowned.

Toby likely just turned his life around rather than wallowed in Depression like Nigel did.

If that is the Case, of course Toby won't Hold Nigel in High Regard... Toby was able to flip his life around, while Nigel just burrowed deep into his own spite.

I still feel Toby would want Nigel to turn his life around though.

Who says Toby is a guard? Who says there is such a thing as "just" guards in this world? Seems like they're all guardians, just a question if they're out being badasses or doing lame patrols

If he were a Guardian, he would have said "Other Guardians", rather than "the Guardians".

Even if he were a Patroller, were Toby a Guardian, he'd refer to the other Guardians as if he were a part of them.

Also, Toby's weapon and outfit... Stands out too much. Much of the Guardian Gear and Outfits are supposed to be minimalistic, make them as down to earth as possible

You can see it from the cast here: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/34878068/ Alex's weapon is the only one to look fancy, and that is due to him being the God of Water, and during the battle Chapter which introduces Rah'Jan, you can see the Veteran Guardians use Plain Weapons https://www.furaffinity.net/view/47881416/

Toby's gear and Weapons stand out too much for him to be a Guardian.

You're gettinh hung up on semantics, You're also forgetting that Viktria's english is not perfect, and their work contains frequent spelling errors.

As for his gear? He's a rich kid. And who says the guardians can't use fancy stuff? The reason the majority don't is more likely because they don't get paid a lot, if at all.

Well, we won't know till the next Chapter...

...But Toby being accepted as a Guardian will give Nigel ZERO Reason to want to join as a Knight, even if Toby cacks it.

We already know who the knights are, we see them on the cover

That and we don't really know the exact circumstances in regards, to how they all become knights to begin with. Mira and Leo, is a given, considering their Guardians already, and for all we know Toby, could end up as one, and replaced by Nigel, we don't really know, as for the others, that's up in the air too. We know Toby's a Guardians, it's just a matter of what his role will be in the story, and how his presence affects Nigel's.

The funny thing is, Leopold was shown to be in a wealthy family, and his weapon looks less fancy than Chilli's, so it's likely just personal preference for each individual, they can use whatever weapon they wish if their comfortable with it, and their confident it can do the job when they use them.

And we know that Toby's parents spoiled him like they did Nigel

Toby is a guardian, because guards have uniforms like on page 70 :)

Many thanks. Really wish I noticed.

Still, it may mean Nigel will be very stubborn in Joining... I mean, It has been many years... And I get the feeling he's secretly proud of Toby... (Nigel's prologue did basically point out that Toby isn't a piece of shit...)

I still get the feeling he's going to "NOPE" his way out when he finds out he's now been chosen as a Guardian after so many years of not living up to the Standards...

Considering Toby's existence wasn't acknowledged until Nigel failed, and that he was raised the same way, and from the looks of it succeeded in doing what Nigel could not, while also taking into account Nigel got disowned.

Yeah it's a possibility he may not see Nigel in a positive light, that or he simply doesn't care.

So Toby became what Nigel wanted to be......Damn. :(

Tobey became what his parents wanted him to be.

Which can be the same.

No... He didn't.

Look at his dialogue. "We have to Gather the Guardians stationed nearby"...

He speaks as if his role is seperate from the Guardians, because if he were a Guardian, he would have said "The Other Guardians"...

This implies he failed to get chosen... But rather than fall into despair like Nigel did, Toby decided to became a Guardsman instead.

...This may give a big reason why Nigel did not call Toby a "Piece of Shit"... Because unlike Nigel, when Toby failed, he didn't fall to anger, but basically carved his own path to become a Guardsman, becoming better than his parents, who coasted off their Pristigious past, and pushed that onto their sons.

If I were to hazard a Guess, Nigel is secretly proud of his Little Bro, he just won't admit it... And I get the feeling the next page will involve interactions between Nigel and Toby.

Oh. My bad. ^^;

I do hope that Nigel still sees Toby.

Looks to me Toby, did in fact become a Guardian, considering Mira, and Leo become Guardians when they were kids, which gives plenty of evidence, considering Toby was raised the same way as Nigel, and would have has to go through the same ceremony at a similar.

Plus if Toby failed, his parents would have treated no different than how they treated Nigel, which wouldn't have done any favours on his mentally. But from what we can see he's pretty much everything his parents wanted him to be, and he doesn't seem to be in a bad state of mind, while also looking like he's been very well groomed.

In short yes Toby, did in fact become everything Nigel wanted to be, and then some.

Yeah, No. In case you forgot, Up until Nigel failed the test, Toby was the one who was neglected... And for a good chunk of his life.

He'd recognize the pattern that if he failed, it would be back to being Neglected and replaced.

If he failed, I feel he'd bail out rather than go back to his family. Nigel became spiteful because he did not expect to fail and that he would be so easily replaced. Toby, on the other hand, has been there, and is aware he would be tossed aside for failure.

He'd be less likely to turn out like Nigel, seeing as he was raised by the Servants for a good while and knew how to live humbly, unlike Nigel who had to fall to realize that.

First and foremost at no point does it ever mention that Nigel's parents had servants, in fact, from we can see it was just them, and no other individuals within the household, so you either made that up, or your making statements based on someone else's opinion.

If you can find proof of that, with links, then by all means I won't say anything more about it.

Secondly we don't actually know how old Tody was, that said he's clearly not old enough to quite understand or really comprehend at the time, what exactly was happening within the household, despite being pushed to the background by his own parents. Otherwise he'd have acted in a similar manner to Nigel, or if not that, behaved in a way to get their attention. But from we saw, when they turned their attention to him, he didn't seem the least bit suprised, or seemed to question it, he may very well have thought the behaviour was normal.

Thirdly the prologue showed they began raising Toby the same way they raised Nigel, love, affection and all, and it's a tradition, to do this, and at some point, despite not starting the journey from their own free will, they would through their own volition, want to become Guardians.

No matter how you look it, Nigel's story pretty much, established that he's the black sheep of his family, and Toby succeeded were he failed and become what he wanted.

We do, actually. It was mentioned both oh Toby's introduction in Nigel's prologue, and when Nigel "Fell".

https://www.furaffinity.net/view/41765003/ < The first time were introduced to Toby, no mention of having servants of any kind, or his exact age.
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/42164821/ < When Nigel's parents began to neglect him, no mention of having servants of any kind.
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/42269720/ < When Nigel's parents turned all their attention to Toby, and pushed Nigel to back, pretending like he didn't exist, no mention of having servants of any kind.
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/42580257/ < When Nigel confronted Luna, about what's happened to him, no mention of having servants of any kind.
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/42793339/ < The end of Nigel's prologue chapter, no mention of having servants of any kind.
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/41878029/ < Picture of Nigel's entire family, Mother, Father, and his brother Toby, no mention of having servants of any kind.
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/42853020/ < Design evolution of Nigel, no mention of having servants of any kind.

Again you're either making that they had servants up, or your making statements based on someone else's opinion.
As I said earlier, if you can provide proof of this, I won't say anything more. Remember anyone can simply look at everything that's been shown so far, and confirm whether or not what someone say's is true or not.

Not to be that guy, but if you're going to correct someone, or clarify something that someone got incorrect, at the very least make sure what you claim can be proven or backed up, to clear up any misunderstandings, otherwise your going to end up in this situation, where someone asks you for proof in regards to what your claiming, and if your unable to prove your case, your not going to a seem like a credible source.

Nothing wrong with adding your own opinions, thoughts or hypothetical theories. Everyone does that, it's normal when someone's invested in story and is trying to figure out what's going to happen next. But please don't go around telling people, "nope your wrong, this is what's happening, this is what's correct, etc...", and provide nothing to back up your statements when someone questions what your stating.

Well... Is probably that the parents didn't treat Toby at the same way when he failed or probably he never did the test

Nigel saw them litterally replace him with Toby, like a broken wheel

He definitely did the test, based on Nigel's story, and what we were told/shown, there's absolutely no way he wouldn't have done the test, as he would've been raised exactly the same way as Nigel was by his parents.

The big difference here, is well, Toby succeeded, and continued being groomed into becoming a Guardian. If he failed it's likely we would have gotten a Nigel 2.0 considering how his parents treated him when he failed.

Or, if he failed, he immediately left his family without a single fuss unlike Nigel who pretty much trashed the House, and rather than wallow in spite, he decided to take a DIFFERENT path.

I mean, in case you forgot, Toby lived for much of his Life neglected until Nigel flunked. He'd know what was in store the moment he fails!

Wow Toby look good in that

Why do I have a feeling Toby is going to get murdered soon?

Not to say that in a dark way, but I have a odd feeling something going to happen to him real soon and its going to relate to Nigel

I get the feeling the next pages will involve Toby interacting with Nigel, wanting his Older Brother to turn his life around... And Nigel denying it to the point of saying something he will regret...

...Which may give reason for Nigel to go on the trip, because since if something bad happens to Toby, it would give reason for Nigel to want to go as a Guardian, as an attempt to carry on his Little Bro's spirit.

Exactly. Because as things are now, Nigel would spit in Luna’s face if she were to offer him the position of knight now. He needs a reason to accept the position.

Wait a sec... Is that Nigels brother that was the new center of his parents life after Nigel didnt hit the incredible expectations of his parents?

Well, its not Toby's fault then.

It seems he's a guard rather than a Guardian, a Police officer of the town.

Quite the Coin flip.

Well even then his parents are more focusing on him than on his older brother.

Only because "Their First kid flunked, better put the spare on"... And we don't know if Toby is still part of the family.

That can't be Nigel younger brother.... Can it ó_ò'???

Nigel's brother's name was "Toby"... And he's not a Guardian, he's a Guard.

Ah

Toby's a guardian, there's to much evidence to suggest otherwise.

From I can see, he's doing he's doing the same job as Mira, who as we know, is also a Guardian, as she passed the ceremony as a child, like several others similar to her age, were shown to have done...well, except Nigel of course.

...I doubt it. Toby's weapon is too fancy.

From what I have seen so far, Guardians are not supposed to have overly fancy weapons like Toby does, but are supposed to have plain weapons, as seen here: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/47881416/ and here: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/34878068/

Also, Nigel's Prologue shows that Wars have happened, and that not every "Protector" Role was that of a Guardian.

The weapon examples, that you brought up, doesn't really prove anything.

Weapons are weapons, there's no Guardian weapons, or you have to use these weapons instead of these ones.

I'm pretty sure their free to use whatever weapons they wish, if Toby's weapons happen to be a bit fancy, then so be it. You can't deny someone from using a weapon, cause it happens to look higher quality than others, that makes absolutely no sense. Your pretty much forcing a handicap on someone.

There's also the fact, Nigel's prologue story, very clearly stated, that EVERY single person in his family became a guardian.

With the fact they came form a long family line of guardians it could be that toby had money to get the best weapon and honestly it doesn't look so Fancy if anything it feels like just bit cartoony or more accurate brass ring and parts we are mistaken them for gold.

Yeah in my eyes it's just look high quality, nothing fancy or flashy, he pretty much looks like his father ( who we know is a Guardian ) does when he was training with Nigel. Similar weapons, appearance and attire.

Fairly true. Hope Toby doesn't die QwQ but then again Hope Nigel doesn't harm him either.

At this point it's a flip of a coin in regards to what Nigel will do when he sees him, and how he feels about him, it's just something we'll have to wait and see. From what we do know, at this point he absolutely detests Guardians, whether or not this includes Toby, has yet to be revealed.
As for Toby's fate, I do see some red flags, though he may not necessary die, at least not yet anyway in my opinion, for all we know it could be something else entirely that impacts his life. We know next to nothing about him, aside from the small snippets that's been shown of his past, it's a bit too early to kill him of I think.

True on all what you said.. also If Zummeng reads this thread forgive us for Broad daylight discussing things WE HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT OWO.

Isn't that the whole point of following a story that your invested in? Discussion things, trying to figure out what happens next, sharing ones thought, nothing to really be forgiven about XP
If anything I'm sure Zummeng is happy that many individuals are interested in her story, and are discussing many topics amongst themselves because their curious about the things that could happen/have happened in the story.

True again as well but never the less It be more sense of us blowing the thread notifications so much they may get frustrated lol

But that's just me being a worried bug

Unless someone's spamming a bunch of nonsense repeatedly, and causing problems for everyone, I doubt a thread having a large amount of discussion within it will be an issue. Plus if it was an issue, I'm Zummeng would say so.

Fair enough

Don't worry you'll be fine XP

Oh, Hi Toby!

...By the looks of it, he's not a Guardian, but a Guard, so he's technically not what his family wanted... But still of high enough prestige.

...And it looks like Chilli's got the hots for him. Cute.

I feel she's actually feeling sorry for Tristan though on those last panels. After all it was just an accident, and that rich guy is acting a bit douchey, Tristan stealing his gold or not.

I think that's a bruise, not a blush

Good to prison, bad free, I think /feeling the choose wish the tree to hell.

Well I did not see that coming but now kind of makes me pissed at Luna.

He's actually a Guardsman.

You have to look deep into the dialogue.

From what I can see he and Mira and doing the same job, and he speaks as if he and her are within the same faction, considering he says "we" first and not "you".

Also you have to remember, Mira and Leopold become Guardians as kids, not adults, which would mean Toby would have had to have also gotten the title at around the same age.

Plus it is hinted that Luna is intentionally putting Mira on town duty, so she doesn't potentially get killed fighting on the front lines.

Toby was confirmed to be Guardian by Zummeng herself XP

wait how did Toby become a guardian? thought he wouldn't have been chosen for the same reason as his brother.

He didn't, he became a town's guardsman. Probably his parents acted the same way they did when Nigel failed, but instead of getting angry at the Tree or his parents, Toby simply focused on another similar role that, while as not as prestigious, is on the same vein

Looking at Toby, it seem it wasn't just the way his parent rised him: there was something in Nigel too, probably exactly what Luna seen back in that day...

Btw, good guy Tristan strikes again: not sorry to have make a pompous noble purse lighter, he's sorry he may have hurt Chili.

Huh, look at that.

Chili seems flush in the face 😏

That's where she got hit.

Oops, but hey we never know what the story has in store for us

That’s a bruise.

Oh ok

Toby!? T-T-T-That would mean an intense drama scene in future!

Nigel brother if i remember correctly?

Yeppers

oh wow toby actually became a guardian, that mustve really pissed nigel off

Minor correction: He's a Town Guardsman. He does not refer to Guardians as if he were a part of them, but instead, speaks as if they are seperate from his group.

Toby's likely been Disowned, but unlike Nigel, he chose to turn his life around, rather than drown in his own spite and self-hatred like Nigel did, and picked being a Guardsman.

I get the feeling Toby's going to bump into Nigel and try to talk him into turning his life around... Moreso if Nigel tries to leave the Ceremony when he finds out he's a "Chosen". (I mean, all these years of drowning in self-hate after being told he was "Not Ready", then getting revealed he was chosen as a Guardian NOW of all times? I get the Feeling Nigel's going to say something Rude to everyone and stomp off, with Toby having to follow his brother to tell him to "Take this Chance".)

why di ii have a feeling that toby is going to die?

I get the feeling too.

You are gonna make me go back and read Nigel's back story again and I can't take that kind of psychic damage a 5th time.

I feel like this whole page is just an excuse to show off Toby and his man pecks glittered with gold and long floppy ears XD

Damn! I didn't expect to see Nigel's little brother so soon but I won't deny that he looks better than the older one. Also, from the way Toby talks here, it sounds like he couldn't have been a Guardian, which is a pity, though it looks like he could at least have become a Guardsman; good for him. And lastly, I must say that it's good that Tristan apologized to Chili; that's another nice gesture from him.

If you scroll up a bit, Zummeng replied to a post revealing that Toby did in fact become a Guardian, funny enough to the guy, who was replying to everyone's post adamantly telling them that he wasn't one and that he failed like Nigel ;3

I found a comment from Viktria in this comment section confirming that Toby is indeed a Guadian; thanks for answering me anyway. Greetings.

Greetings to you too :)
Also Zummeng and Viktria are one in the same, sorry if I didn't make that clearer in my previous post ^_^;
And if you already knew that, then either way now you know about Toby XP

Technically, I already knew that Zummeng was actually Viktria; I used the name she uses here to be precise.

Oh alrighty then. admittedly, for me at least, it kinda gets confusing at times when people use both names ^_^;

No problem. :3

Nice look Toby. He even good sir to Tristan, meaning to say I think he saw his kindness to the child and he know that the other was a rich prick

This world you've created is blowing my mind. :D

I mean, in a good way.

Got a feeling Toby is as stuck up and arrogant as his parents, and only puts up the facade of the "good guardian"

I have a feeling I know who the new guardian is going to be. :3c
Tristan is such a sweetheart. Chili and Tristan better become the best of friends. <3

The monkey did nothing wrong

Poor Toby thought all his childhood he was moved and was convinced he did his dream job when really they never cared for him HIM and chose his path, yet saw nothing. At least he is happy

......This guy is likely a spoiled jerk, and I question ToL's decision to pick him over Nigel.

I hope she accepted Toby's application because by the time of his ceremony they had become so short of guardians and recruits that she can no longer afford to refuse anyone, even if he did not have all the "qualities" required.

I wonder if he remembers his brother at all.....or if his parents have any regrets.. I doubt the latter but am curious about the former.

Hey the little brother cool. The thief and healer would make a perfect couple.

Toby is hot, Im sorry I had to be the one to say it but it had to be done

You're not the only one to notice this. I was going to post it myself, but wound up losing my net the moment I was about to post it XD

Damn, Toby coming hard right out of the gate with that "Golden God" vibe.

To Solus-the-lone-wolf: I wouldn't be so sure about Toby.