got me right in da feels.

I would Iove to go but sadly I live in the uk

Wasn’t there actual nazis there?

Oh for gods sake shut UP with your stupid, canned far leftist "nahzees" BULLSCHEIZE. Come up with an actual argument instead of "X bogeyman exists therefore my shitty opinions and beliefs are better than yours." FFS "nahtzees" haven't been relevant since the 40s and todays "neonyahtzees" number around 10k, spread over thousands and thousands of miles.

Bro's argument so fragile they mediately explode with defensive spam

It's a rather childish response, but I get that guy's frustration. This whole scare story about "Nazi furs" running around is getting really old. I was at this so-called "fascist" con, yet I didn't encounter any white supremacists despite talking with just about everybody there.

I came for the reply's. The sheer unhinged mental illness was worth it. ;)

If anyone is mentally ill it’s the people attempting to defend nazis

Nobody's defending Nazis here. You're just going around calling people names and gaslighting us whenever we try to point out how you're wrong.

Defensive spam, and yet I posted one comment and everyone feels the need to start huffing copium and screaming at me in the comments instead of answering my questions. Sounds about right coming from people like you lol.

Defensive spam? Oh come on! You're the one spamming replies to literally everyone who comments here. Why don't you just take the L already.

Bro he is entirely correct, y'all are huffing so much copeuim that when someone says the word Nazi you get super defensive as if they were attacking you directly and personally. Fascism is a cancer, and the only reasonable reaction to cancer is to annihilate it. So getting that defensive, that quickly is sus as hell.

Who's being defensive here, Jeki? You're the one jumping to assumptions in an attempt to make yourself look better. We're not Nazis. We don't endorse fascism and never have. We're only mentioning these things because people like you keep bringing them up.

BRUH, you're so predictable. You just did exactly what I said was sus in an attempt to not be sus. I never said in words that I think YOU specifically are a Nazi. you could end the entire comment section with two words

Do you honestly expect people not to act defensively when you point at them and call them Nazis? Of course people are going to take offense to that. It's blatant gaslighting. You're not proving anything.

The whole point of this is that I didn't point and call you nazi. This whole thing started because someone said "Wasn’t there actual nazis there?" this is not a direct attack on anyone, nor is it pointing and calling someone a Nazi. This was followed by someone getting stupidly defensive and accusing the other person of calling them a Nazi when the original commenter didn't even know the other person existed. The only gaslighting happening is you trying to convince everyone of something that, simply by reading the comments, everyone can see is wrong. Stop digging a hole for yourself, I do not think you are a Nazi, but for fucks sake just say "Nazi bad" to end this stupid convo.

Okay, since you clearly aren't understanding my responses, let me summarize your gaslighting, seeing as you don't seem to know what it means.

Step 1: You call people Nazis.
Step 2: They object to being called Nazis.
Step 3: You claim that them being defensive makes them Nazis.

What else needs to be said?

DUDE, how dence are you? Step 1 does not apply because NO ONE CALLED YOU A NAZI. "Defensive spam? Oh come on! You're the one spamming replies to literally everyone who comments here. Why don't you just take the L already." There was no L to be taken, he is right. There were in fact nazis at that convention. They also show up to other cons, but the difference here was that THEY MARKETED THE CON TO NAZIS, and also the special guess is a blatant nazi. (He literally has a red arm band on his fursona) I do not know everything that transpired at that con, nor will I say that I do, but what I do know is please kindly shut the fuck up. I cannot call you a nazi, because you haven't given me the reasoning to think that you are one. HOWEVER, the way you replied to other comments, is in a manner that makes you sound like you are trying to defend against accusations (mostly accurate ones) of nazis at the con. This DOES give me the impression that you, in some way, sympathies with nazis, which would make you just as bad as a nazi for allowing the cancer of fascism to spread. I have given you so many opportunities to cover your ass, but you insist on brute forcing an argument style that only digs a grave for yourself faster. You could have said "I don't think there were any nazis at that con, but I'm not fully sure about that"
Or even better yet, said literally anything that would contribute to it, instead of just rambling about gaslighting when you have been using more gaslighting techniques than anyone else here, and I would know because they have been working on me. Why the fuck else would I be writing this.
I will not waste anymore time talking to cancer. Unless the next thing you say is, "I hate Nazis," I will not continue to lose braincells with this comment section.

Break a nazi's legs.

I'm not wasting any more time with this. You're just trying to get attention at this point, and it's getting ridiculous. Anyone who's reading these comments will immediately be able to tell who's actually trying to be reasonable here.

Bro your troll game is weak af.

Bruh. Take a chill pill. That was just so needlessly aggressive.

People who espouse terminally online talking points like calling everyone they disagree with a Nazi would net the same reaction in person.

It's tired and a lot of people are getting sick of it. People seek a weekend away from Twitter propaganda, conventions that actually prioritize furry fandom and not politics.

No sir, you are posting proudly about a con that had actual zoophiles and Predators in attendance and you want to call that "propaganda"? PLus I think it's really funny that you get paid to do some of the gayest art I've seen and yet you're happily supporting a con that has founders who are openly anti LGBT. You are a grifter by definition if you are able to turn a blind eye to these issues. I don't even use twitter so I have no clue where that came from. Don't try to dodge my question with a red herring, you know exactly what this convention was and who was there, you're just grifting hardcore.

None of the things you said have any actual evidence, but even if we were to go with the worst case scenario, how is that the con's fault? It's not like the people running conventions have the time to do extensive background checks on every single person who attends. If you're going to boycott Free Fur All, you might as well boycott Anthrocon and Midwest FurFest as well, seeing as a lot of those same people you're complaining about have attended those cons as well.

That’s the genetic fallacy. You can see evidence all over the internet and there’s even entire telegram archives of this stuff. https://youtu.be/wxBgBOHOlpg Notice how jasonafex hasn’t even denied that there were Nazis there.

It's called having a consistent argument. Where are people like you whenever Growly shows up at Anthrocon? That guy's literally been caught trying to groom minors, yet you'd rather not talk about that, so you spread disproven stories about Free Fur All's attendees instead. It's blatant projection, and the rest of us can see right through it. Also, Telegram screencaps can easily be edited and taken out of context, so excuse me if I'm going to be skeptical whenever someone tries to use them to "expose" people they've most likely never met in real life.

Gonna need some receipts for that unsubstantiated claim, fascist. :)

Bro you’re a moron. Fascists are literally a right wing ideology, the same ideology that is the umbrella term for Nazism. How’re you gonna call me out for not having any research but you don’t even know what the fuck you’re talking about?

Fascism is at the top of the political spectrum, not the right. Many fascist regimes actually had socialist leanings. To claim it's just part of the right wing is extremely ignorant of history.

Fascism is apolitical you child - it’s the endorsement of violence against ones political opponents. Communists are fascists who dont believe in private property. You are a juvenile.

Thank you! It's exactly like how I get called a homophobe constantly because I don't think, for example, hypersexualized caricatures of women aka drag queens should be around prepubescent children, in various states of undress. And I'm almost excessively gay. -_-

https://youtu.be/wxBgBOHOlpg I don’t prioritize politics, I prioritize not having our community turn into a safe haven for hate and white nationalism.

That's just the same nonsense we've heard countless times already. None of it has any real evidence. It's all just fear mongering.

But black nationalism is super cool tho? 😂. Progs are so racist lmao.

I'm hardly a leftist (in fact, I often find myself to lean a bit more right on a lot of different topics), but your extremely erratic and disproportionately upset comment gave me exactly the answer I needed. It's just very hilarious to me how furs were happily attending a con where people were in attendance who literally HATE the LGBT community whilst proudly profiting off of art with very gay themes. There is so much proof of tradcons being at this convention who openly advocate against basic rights for the LGBT community. you might want to get educated on what actually happened behind this con before you blindly defend it. I do not use the term "Nazi" very lightly, these people literally call themselves Nazis and Fascists openly. This isn't anything new.

They "literally hate" the LGBT community because it's a toxic echo chamber of leftist ideology. That says nothing about their tolerance of gay or lesbian people in general. If anything, even the most controversial people at Free Fur All are still pretty diverse themselves. PeaceWolf, despite being called a "tradcon", is currently getting a lot of hate for being freinds with Jasonafex and Kabier, who are from Canada. Even Foxler, the so-called "Nazi", has three gay boyfriends and isn't even white, so yeah, I think we're fine. If anyone needs to calm down, it's you.

You’re grifting just as hard as jasonafex and it’s very clear. I won’t deny the LGBT community has its faults but the response to that SHIULD NOT be to hate anyone and want to see them burn. The response SHOULD NOT be to want to have their actual human rights taken away. Are you out of your everloving mind or are you just too tapped in to whatever the people on the internet are telling you?

Ah yes, the "grifter" talking point. I see you've pivoted to the next most popular strawman now. None of us are here to make money. We're just trying to set the record straight.

All these claims, and yet I see no evidence. Only radical insanity. : /

There’s evidence everywhere. Ain’t nothing radical about any of what I’m saying. How is it radical to hate white nationalists and people who want to see gays without rights? https://youtu.be/wxBgBOHOlpg

How many times are you going to keep linking Deadwing Dork's video about the con. He wasn't there. I was. You should trust me more than some random YouTuber trying to stir drama for clicks.

Wouldn't be suprised if a few were there.

I mean Nazis could be at any con Nazis could be all around us it’s not like we go around thought policing and asking people there belief’s and it does seem to be a term that’s easly thrown around these days and not in the manner it was intended for

Nope. After looking further into this con I found that several furs were leading it had openly and willingly advocated against things like gay marriage and various other facets within the community. Are we really just gonna continue to turn a blind eye to hatred when they're making it more and more obvious? There is a cultural obligation for us to disavow these people and their behaviors no matter how much you may agree, this is disgusting and I would never ever use the term Nazi lightly. Some of them literally call themselves Nazi.

You mean you saw a "call-out" thread on Twitter and believed everything in it. Guess what? People lie all the time on Twitter. Try doing your own research before parroting baseless talking points.

I don’t use Twitter you absolute schitzo

Neither do I, but I still recognize the talking points. Plus, that Deadwing Dork video you keep spamming links to uses Twitter as one of its primary sources, so you're basically parroting those rumors that originate from Twitter by proxy.

There are reasons to be against gay marriage aside from hating gay people. They're all wrong reasons, but people still have them. Do you understand what "being uncharitable" means? And what is this cultural obligation you... oooooh leftist monolithing of a naturally diverse group of people! Now would you like to inform us what specific races of people are obliged to think? :P

Look all I was saying is Nazis can be anywhere not sure why your going off and assuming everyone here must be a Nazi also for someone who claims to not use twitter you sure do use slot of twitter facts and links

I know for sure they had zoos attending as special guests and were welcoming openly hateful folks.

I bet even you would have been welcomed openly.

I would really, REALLY like to see your evidence for this scandalous claim. Because, you know, if you did have it, and could prove their attendance was intentional despite this clearly common knowledge, then, you know, you'd win the argument. Like, immediately. Coincidentally, have you have ever seen a theist argue in favor of intelligent design?

Wouldn't be surprised if a few of everything were there. Just like at every con. Or public gathering. See how nonsensical it becomes?

i feel like having a few nazis at a con is a bit more of a big deal then having a few democrats or republicans, or socialists, or libertarians etc. at a con

These people aren’t reasonable enough to see that though. There’s a difference between having certain opinions about the economy and just straight up hating people based on their ethnic background or sexuality.

Where's the hate you keep talking about? You can't provide any evidence other than an opinionated YouTube video. You weren't there. A lot of us were and are telling you that what you've been told is untrue.

Ok but you havent proven your claim. -.-

Really cause I know more then a few democrats and republicans who are agsinst gay marriage it’s also most like it’s a religion thing then Nazis but ya again you keep tossing that word around so it keeps losing its meaning

It’s only a problem if they arent asked to leave. Were they? Were there even any there? Where’s the proof???

You don’t seem to understand the gravity of what I’m saying. This con was promoted as a place for free speech which isn’t necessarily the issue, the issue is people interpreted that as “this is a place where I can promote my degenerate political views and hate minority groups openly. This is also the place I can openly talk about zoophilia and pedophilia.”

"This is a place where I can promote my degenerate political views and hate minority groups openly. This is also the place I can openly talk about zoophilia and pedophilia."

That has to be one of the most blatant strawmen I've ever seen. It's not even original either. No, freedom of speech does not mean promoting hatred and degeneracy. That's just a talking point used by people who want to censor speech while pretending to be reasonable.

This guy gets it! Reasonable person: 1 Lying midwit: -8

Gonna. Need.
Some. Citations.

Also, not to “kink shame” but I’ve seen your page - what moral high ground are you trying to preach from, exactly?

Have you peeked stop some of the groups he is part of a few of them have hsve nazi/facists members so it’s interesting to see him here

Good to see woke furs are still cringe...