To penetrate, or not to penetrate.

Hard to argue with her. i do love me a nice small high velocity round. That being said, 7.62X51 is still my all time fave. That bad boy will deliver one hell of a thump.

I'm still told that I'm weird for preffering the 5.7 cartridge, even though it's no longer just the FN 5.7 and P90 chambered in it anymore.

It's not weird, just unusual. 5.7 just hasn't had many (if any) high-profile cases to show off how effective it is. I carry a .357 Magnum but from what i've seen 5.7 will get the job done just dandy.

I love my Rugar 5.7 handgun, thing is awesome and has virtually no recoil, super accurate, far easier to control than even a 9mm

Mah hart, mah soul. Only the sexiest rifles (FN FAL and CETME/G3) are chambered in 7.62 NATO. Glad to see someone who appreciates that round.

Wow! You intend that whatever you shoot doesn't get up. Don't you?

I'm guessing you know that the 45-70 was originally developed for the original Gatling gun back in the 1860s.

I just don't trust her because she has clothes on. if they were off she could show the penetration metaphor better.

Opinions? there’s only facts here. Red spoke out

Love that tanktop + panties combo with ammo talk.

It gives strong Meryl vibes doesn't it?

My only knowledge on this comes from Tarkov, so all I know is 7.62x39 is better because you can buy PS GZH rounds at LL1 Prapor which can pen class 4 armor. This will carry you til endgame, where you can upgrade to BP GZH to handle even class 6 armor without much difficulty. 5.56x45 guns have pretty good handling compared to 7.62x39, usually. But the guns are pricier, and you don't unlock decent ammo for it until at least Peacekeeper LL2 when you complete The Cult - Part 1, allowing you to buy M856A1 rounds.

Cute panties, btw.

I think, in Tarkov's case, 7.62x39 are actually more plentiful than 5.56x45 being a game set in a more Russian/Slavic setting where 7.62x39 is more or less the main ammo used. So 5.56 is actually the rarer ammo in comparison, as most of the guns you will find in the area are chambered in 7.62 and the 5.56 guns are rarer, as is the ammo in comparison.

That is why 7.62 is better for penetration, being a heavier round, and larger, which is inherently why it has the drawbacks listed. Heavier, less variety, in places like North America there are heavy restrictions on the ammo and other issues.

The rest of the unlock process matches up with this, too. Your first set of traders give you civilian market rifles and Soviet Era relics. You get access to both more modern Russian weapons and a larger variety of NATO with higher level.

Makes sense given the lore that guns are hard to smuggle in so most of what you'll see is what a Russian farmer or sport shooter might have access to.

Yeah, never played Tarkov myself, wanted to but the friend that was going to buy it to play with bailed on me, but from what I have seen, it seems that way, that you start from the bottom with easily replaced or mass-produced stuff, since if you die and lose it, there is no big deal, before you get to have more and more exclusive and good things after you have proven yourself.

Love my 7.62x39 firearms. But I've always had a thing for Russian design. Don't get me wrong I have plenty of AR and other 5.56 rifles to go with my AK's Mosins, and Dragunov, So I won't say which is better IMO. I have my preference, but they defiantly all serve a purpose.

Well, it looks like 7.62 trades off way more than 5.56.

But the few things it gains are the exact things that potentially save your life (or rather, end the other guys' life before he can end yours).

Accessories and availability are all nice and good until you're cowering behind a small rock wishing you had had the option of bringing just a bit more power to this fight.

Anyone else thought she was holding dildos when they first saw this?

Nothing like a woman with a full magazine <3 Love this! Thanks for sharing!

Neither, go with 6.5x39

As a British person, maybe one of the rare few here, I can only nod and agree >:)

So many Americans...

To be expected of course...😅

Lmfao

to kill russians pigs 155-mm is much better. approved in reality)

A more apples-to-apples comparison would have been 5.45 vs 5.56.

Hmm, now I’m more curious to know which is better between .44 magnums and .40-70Gov’ts

Owns a marlin .44 magnum. it is a mini guide gun.
Unless you are in Alaska or Siberia it is good enough.

Really, I'm curious to know the pros and cons of that caliber really

A 45-70 is damn close to a .458 Winchester magnum now.

A .44 Magnum hits harder under 150 yards than a .30.30. Now.

Think of it a a mini. 458 Winchester magnum. They really upgraded the ammo.

I see, alright that’s interesting to know, and I haven’t heard the gov’t is similar to a .458 either

Good question. I agree with Red though. But my absolute all time favorite is still a classic 30-06 hunting round I used to the range and fire from a 25-year old bolt action hunting rifle. Gawd that beauty would be 56 years old now if I still had it...

It's just...there is something satisfying, opening the bolt, sliding that round on, slowly closing and locking the bolt...taking careful aim, squeezing...and then damn near breaking your shoulder cause you didn't shoulder it quote right. 😂 But ohhhh so satisfying.

Just use 7,62x51 and be happy.

7.62×39 over 5.56×45 any day

+ 7,62x39 it is much much cheaper
+ This ammunition is available over everywhere in the world.

I think it's better to spend money and save a soldier's life than to have more ammo.

I love my .357s lol I use them in my carbines and my pistols. I have a large variety of loads and bullets for them I put together as well. It gains A LOT when fired through a longer barrel with ballistics similar to a 7.62x39. I find 5.56s to be awful for game hunting though, might as well be using a .22 magnum, Unless I am going for like rabbits or somethin.

well she's right about that. Right tool for the right job and all.

...and she is correct.

There is no best firearm there is only the best firearms for you. Yes the multiple was intentional.

FYN = FYH + 1
In which...
Firearms You NEED (FYN)
Firearms You HAVE (FYH)

Fisk I've watched you ever since I was a young teen, Your still awesome.

I'm less of a rifle lover and more of a pistol lover. Don't get me wrong, I love the P-90 design, but I see it as more of an SMG than a service rifle. The AR-15 is just a sportier M16A2 which I used in the military, while the AK-47 (while looking scary) used the same ammo as the M240 Golf I fired in training.

As far as lightweight, but with good penetration is concerned, I prefer the .475 Wildey Magnum ammo if you're looking to take down a rhino in less than 4 shots, and a .357 Magnum just for your average bad guys.

The P-90 isn’t really a service rifle, it was designed as PDW (personal defense weapon), for rearward troops . So, yes, it’s closer to a sub machine gun. Not that accurate, but close enough at 200 m.

Here is some nice gun poetry. Roses are red, Violets are blue, Here is bullet for you in 7.62

I'm better at talking pro and con A4 vs Legal US, so A4 is metric, cut in half you get A5, take 2 you get A3, 2 A3 give you A2, same to get A1 and two A1 for A0 witch is one square meter. And width divide by height give you square root of 2. Pure math so lovely
Legal us is just a nonsense !

A4? Are you talking about international standards for sheets of paper?

Yes, it's an explosive theme that can lead to extreme fight !

CORRECT ANSWER

Peasants! 6.5 Grendel when you're going loud, 9x39 subsonic when subtlety is required.

Trying to make sure pet hair doesn't get into magazines is hard enough already, I can't imagine the annoyance of having my shedding jamming up all my firearms as an anthro.

I never learned the breeds of guns and at this point I'm afraid to ask

She's completely right!

I only shoot .338 Spectre, those other rounds are too mainstream.

:P

I find myself in awe at the sheer abundance of gun-owning furries.

Here I am wishing more game designers could balance their games around trade offs instead of "rarer = better" or whatever.

I mean, she's right. Though, out to about 300yds, the ballistics of the 7.62x39 are on par with the 5.56. Its after that where it starts to deviate a lot more, at least from my experience. Granted, I'm not the best shooter.

Let's adjust the question to which caliber is her preferred?

And I half expected her to be pantieless 🥵

7.62x54R or nothing.

Sexy Red

.308 vs 7.62 x 51?

spitting those ammo facts!!! (wish I could look as cute doing it XD)

oh.. and I'm a 3-.06 kind of girl... let's get that nuzzle-velocity!!!

MORE POWER

R R R R R R

7.62×51(.308 Win) because fk you and the guy behind you. Anything below is for folks not strong enough to cope with a propper kick and according damage on the other side.

FN FAL <3

Well wasn't this a pleasant surprise. I'm so glad you're still drawing Red, she's been a favorite of mine among your characters for over a decade!

And given her line of work she probably has extensive experience with both. ;)

I do disagree with the higher recoil. I mean, it really depends on the rifle set up, but I've found that with a lot of firearms, it's not really softer, harder, lighter, or whatever, but just different. A .45 ACP doesn't kick the same way a 9mm does, etc., but that's my experience. Very on-point with the diversity of the 5.56 cartridge though.

I've shot 5..56 AKs and 7.62 AKs. Even with the same mechanism, the 5.56 is more controllable.

I like your take on Red's answer overall. Not better or worse, but with tradeoffs. I'd love to fire an AK chambered in 5.56 and/or 5.45. I think the platform would be an interesting switch! I am amazed at what they've done with 5.56 (and 9mm) though. It's not a simple cut-and-dry "Which is better?" anymore, but rather what specific ammo you're using.

She's not wrong. Having had worked at Colt Firearms back in the late 1970s, It took me years to accept the 5.56 as an effective battle weapon. This was especially true, having worked with a number of highly opinionated Vietnam veterans who hated the M16. It took me years to cast off the influences of others.

My personal experience with 7.62 x 39 comes from two Rugers: a Mini 30 (semi-auto) and an M77. They are both surprisingly accurate. I first fired an M16A1 in 1979 and I realized a bunch of opinionated veterans weren't necessarily the best resource and that a full-auto carbine was easily handled (and out of my reach, financially). So, I own a AR15 type. The round is fast, light and if well-placed, effective.

What would I carry if I was still in the 'Have Gun, Will Travel' business? The answer to that, as Red indicates, requires the consideration of the assignment and the tradeoffs.

AK-47 Never Jams.
Sergent Kalashnikov knew a thing or two.

Yeah it does.

pff..Sergeant Kalashnikov is a underdog and mediocrity. AK-47 is a copy of Hugo Schmeiser auto-rifle.

The real answer was 5.45x39, eh.

Excellent piece. There needs to be a version of this where she's comparing cocks or dildos. Or hamburgers and hotdogs
~Wolve

Whichever one you happened to buy a few thousand rounds of when it was on sale... >.>

Yeah, I generally do that, especially when I find the more obscure rounds I like on sale XD

Pick your weapon of choice.

Savage 110 in 7MM Magnum.

Well, there are different AKs for different countries…
As far as I know, non-russian made AKs tends to be overgassed

I shot a 5.56 AR for the first time this year and it genuinely surprised me how much louder it was than .223's

Everyone here discussing and debating about rounds, and I'm the only one like:

"Ancap panties! No friggin way!"

.38 and .308 have never failed.

Ok... she's a SMART gun girl. With red hair. I am officially interested.