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Here is yet another Clash of unlikely warriors proving who is the best of their group. I figured they both possesed powerful weapons, they both had an army behind them, Why not the two of them.
...back to the commish for me.....
Pirates vs. Ninja
Which side are you on?
WADAYATHINK?
...back to the commish for me.....
Pirates vs. Ninja
Which side are you on?
WADAYATHINK?
Category All / Fanart
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Yea, the Ninja were technically considered samurai, trained in the way of stealth and shadow. In reality, they were only recon officers, or spies, and made minimal use of the weaponry thats become so famous today, only using it when thier mission was jeoperdized, or they were forced/ordered to make an assasination. But they were also trained in the way of the samurai, so they could pick up the sword in times of war.
I read alot of it in history books, but the Wikipedia entry on ninjas gives some good descriptions of ninja at the time. heres a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja
Meat has a sound?!?!? 0.0
But yea, thats what I learned from reading. I learn mostly from my research, though my history teacher is actually the best teacher that Ive had so far, he actually makes everything sound good, instead of that boring crap teachers normally try to feed you.
But yea, thats what I learned from reading. I learn mostly from my research, though my history teacher is actually the best teacher that Ive had so far, he actually makes everything sound good, instead of that boring crap teachers normally try to feed you.
i think you need to recheck your sources. wiki isnt the most reliable website out there.
from what i've read ninja were peasents who were sick of the poor way the samuri treated them. they picked up their weapons and took to the shadows. i mean look at the weapons they are basicly farm equipment that could be useful in combat.
from what i've read ninja were peasents who were sick of the poor way the samuri treated them. they picked up their weapons and took to the shadows. i mean look at the weapons they are basicly farm equipment that could be useful in combat.
Heres what I said:
"Wikipedia entry on ninjas gives some good descriptions of ninja at the time."
I did not say Wiki was my only source. In fact I said:
"I read alot of it in history books"
Now if thats how the ninja originally started, then OK, but they where at one point given honor equal to or higher then that of a samurai. Thats not to say the Ninja weren't originally peasents, just at some point during the ninja legacy, they where given the ranking and training that a samurai was also given. Ninja were also skilled in warfare, due to their samurai training.
"Wikipedia entry on ninjas gives some good descriptions of ninja at the time."
I did not say Wiki was my only source. In fact I said:
"I read alot of it in history books"
Now if thats how the ninja originally started, then OK, but they where at one point given honor equal to or higher then that of a samurai. Thats not to say the Ninja weren't originally peasents, just at some point during the ninja legacy, they where given the ranking and training that a samurai was also given. Ninja were also skilled in warfare, due to their samurai training.
my vote is for Davey Jones all the way.. BUT if that shredder is from the 'comics' and the main graphic novels and such, then he's NOT a whimp..he can actually hold his own..but I'm figuring that he's facing down a major supernatural creature.. and that by itself, along with how that (by the movie if I remember right) its *impossible* to kill him because he has no heart.. then its Davey.. but if it *is* the shredder from the books and not those silly (but *fun!*) movies..then its GONNA be a rumble!
Well, the fact that they changed the name of the movie into an acronym says something about them changing things a little bit too much. They are trying to appeal to today's younger generation and are deviating too much from the way it was originally.
There was never a time when Shredder was flipping around all sneaky-like and chopping people's heads off. He always sent his minions to do his work, and when he did fight, it was always straight-forward, like a Samurai. Even in the movies, he was always slow moving and heavier hitting than what a ninja would have been.
There was never a time when Shredder was flipping around all sneaky-like and chopping people's heads off. He always sent his minions to do his work, and when he did fight, it was always straight-forward, like a Samurai. Even in the movies, he was always slow moving and heavier hitting than what a ninja would have been.
Ummm... hon, I'm a fan of the original Eastman and Laird comic... haven't even seen the newest movie yet. The TMNT acronym has been used extensively for well over a decade.
But, aside from that, you're throwing way too much reality thinking into a comic character. Shredder is known as a ninja, no matter how his fighting style comes across. He does not follow the bushido code, he does not have a fuedal lord, nor does he require a master to have self-value. His goals are self motivated, and he rules by force and power, not by honor and ritualistic pomp presentation.
And btw, if you're going to throw realistic thinking into your arguement... ninja's didn't typically flip around and chop folks' heads off. They observed and spied, dressed in common clothes, looked completely mundane, and used mythical fear, rumors, suspicions, poisons and misdirection FAR more often than ever drawing a blade in the first place.
You're thinking of ninjaz, the intarweb versions.
But, aside from that, you're throwing way too much reality thinking into a comic character. Shredder is known as a ninja, no matter how his fighting style comes across. He does not follow the bushido code, he does not have a fuedal lord, nor does he require a master to have self-value. His goals are self motivated, and he rules by force and power, not by honor and ritualistic pomp presentation.
And btw, if you're going to throw realistic thinking into your arguement... ninja's didn't typically flip around and chop folks' heads off. They observed and spied, dressed in common clothes, looked completely mundane, and used mythical fear, rumors, suspicions, poisons and misdirection FAR more often than ever drawing a blade in the first place.
You're thinking of ninjaz, the intarweb versions.
Yeah, I know. It was more or less a joke about the flipping out and killing people. I do know about the Ninja culture and other things like that. Its just that when I was a wee little boy, all I remember was Shredder being all hulking and bad, never conniving and such.
But what I mean about the acronym is that sure, it is used in speech and the like, but to actually title a movie like that... it just seems a little dumb to me.
Eh, oh well. I just remember him being more of a Samurai than a Ninja just because of the way he looked and acted and such. Personally I havent read many of the comics, nor taken the time to do so since college is eating up my time.
If there is anything you recommend that I read in the way of Turtles stuff, please let me know. Im always looking to get into something new, even if it is old.
But what I mean about the acronym is that sure, it is used in speech and the like, but to actually title a movie like that... it just seems a little dumb to me.
Eh, oh well. I just remember him being more of a Samurai than a Ninja just because of the way he looked and acted and such. Personally I havent read many of the comics, nor taken the time to do so since college is eating up my time.
If there is anything you recommend that I read in the way of Turtles stuff, please let me know. Im always looking to get into something new, even if it is old.
look, It'll go down like this. It'll be shredder vs Davy. Davy will draw is sword, shred dude will draw his and they'll battle, battle a lil more, then battle a lot. Shredder will be losing, and then finally, when things look bleak, he'll drink the last vial of ooze.
Super Shredder: WHAT. NOW?!
Davy: ............fuck.
Super Shredder: WHAT. NOW?!
Davy: ............fuck.
*scoffs* ... these matchups you keep presenting are clearly rigged. It's like you're intentionally pitting the worst pirates of all time against the best ninja.
I mean, come on, the Shredder? He may have the worst ninja minions, but he himself survived getting crushed in a garbage truck. You just can't beat that.
I mean, come on, the Shredder? He may have the worst ninja minions, but he himself survived getting crushed in a garbage truck. You just can't beat that.
Well, just to clarify: NINJA WIN!
Before this goes into a ninja/pirate reply rant, I base this on Chapter 3 of the doctor mcninja webcomic. (DrmcNinja.com) Chapter 3 in the archives has the origional battle between the pirates and the ninja (and arguably the source of the ninja/pirate battles in the first place); including a fun history lesson on how the rivarly came to be in old Ireland.
Go read the comic, its hilarious o.o and violent, but mostly funny. (http://drmcninja.com/page.php?issue=2 Direct link to the ninva vs pirates chapter)
Before this goes into a ninja/pirate reply rant, I base this on Chapter 3 of the doctor mcninja webcomic. (DrmcNinja.com) Chapter 3 in the archives has the origional battle between the pirates and the ninja (and arguably the source of the ninja/pirate battles in the first place); including a fun history lesson on how the rivarly came to be in old Ireland.
Go read the comic, its hilarious o.o and violent, but mostly funny. (http://drmcninja.com/page.php?issue=2 Direct link to the ninva vs pirates chapter)
Eh, gotta go with Davey, mostly because I'm biased; that, and the whole immortality thing.
Though I think alot of the battle would consist of them sending out Flying Dutchman crew and Foot Soldiers at the opposing faction, until they both became bored with the entire concept and ended up getting a beer together...or some rum, or maybe sake! Something alcoholic. :D
Though I think alot of the battle would consist of them sending out Flying Dutchman crew and Foot Soldiers at the opposing faction, until they both became bored with the entire concept and ended up getting a beer together...or some rum, or maybe sake! Something alcoholic. :D
And stay tuned next week for this http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb.....rakCthulu1.png ! Cthulhu vs The kraken! Will the son of Hades lay the smack down on Cthulhu's ass!? Who will win!? Find out next time on FA!
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