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These two characters, Bridget and Yamato, are cisgender characters that the transgender community has for years been trying to "steal" and headcanon them as being trans because they completely misunderstand and misrepresent their backstories, Yamato especially. It got so bad that in the latest Guilty Gear game the writers made Bridget trans, no doubt due to pressure from the community, but didn't change his backstory whatsoever so him being trans not only doesn't make sense, it makes it very...sussy. As for Yamato, she's a character that heavily identifies with a certain hero of the past named Oden. In order to become closer to what Oden was, Yamato will sometimes refer to herself using male pronouns and acts like a man would but never in any page of the manga did she consider herself to be a man.
The only person who referred to Yamato as "Kaido's son" was Yamato herself, again because she wants to be like Oden thus the whole using male pronouns. Kaido sometimes does too but that stems from the fact that he wishes he had a son instead of a daughter because a daughter could never be his heir. The Straw Hats refer to Yamato with male pronouns because they respect her decisions and choices. It's not the same thing as being trans since Yamato has no issues with her body nor does she feel uncomfortable in it, she simply wants to be closer to a hero in therms of personality and heroics who happened to be male. Oh and then there's also that one Manga page titled" The girls of One Piece" and guess who's in that page? Yamato
It's actually a really complicated topic, since Wano draws so heavily from Kabuki Theater, and Kabuki is a theatrical tradition known for fucking with gender a lot (it was originally all-female casts, but then changed to all-male casts, despite there always being both male and female characters in the stories). Also the Japanese language just kinda... doesn't use direct third-person pronouns. Almost ever. So nearly all of the instances of 'he/him' or 'she/her' (in any manga, not just One Piece) in the english translations are added by the localization team. To my understanding, the idea of 'Yamato uses male pronouns and therefore is trans' doesn't hold much water.
Similarly, the Vivre card lists 'female' but that's supplementary material, and also some characters refer to Yamato as 'Kaido's son'. Then again, IIRC Kaido blatantly states that he wished for a son and was disappointed in having a girl, so Yamato adopting a male persona may have just been a convenient way for Kaido to get his way retroactively. The narration text does say 'Kaido's daughter (self-styled Kozuki Oden)', so the metanarrative at least acknowledges Yamato's birth gender.
Yamato appearing in the men's bath at the end is definitely a thing, but it's also very much played for comedy with everyone (except Luffy and Chopper) commenting and overreacting to the naked tits on display. The mask Yamato wears at the beginning of the arc is specifically worn in Kabuki theater by female characters in mourning (masks are a very big part of Kabuki shows, think of it like a character wearing a black face veil in a modern movie).
Nami and Robin actively ask Yamato to join them in the bath, which means it's not meant to be apparent to them that Yamato isn't a woman, but also Luffy gives Yamato a nickname that is essentially 'Yamabro', styled in the same way as he nicknames other male characters, so Luffy seems to accept Yamato is a dude. Except also Luffy is kind of an idiot who believes literally anything anyone tells him, so... maybe he's not the best judge of this? Then again Luffy has been shown to have surprisingly insightful and deep emotional maturity before...
My point is there's a LOT of fuckery with what Yamato views themself as, and I think that was intentional on Oda's part, given that Wano is blatantly and unapologetically 'the Kabuki arc'. My personal stance is that Yamato is very much meant to be an ambiguous character that people can draw their own conclusions about. I like to think of Yamato as generally femme-leaning NB, if you will, but I also think that if someone else draws a different conclusion about the character, that isn't wrong or invalid due to their nature and the influences of the story.
Basically, I don't care what take you have about Yamato's gender, I just care that it's an informed one.
Similarly, the Vivre card lists 'female' but that's supplementary material, and also some characters refer to Yamato as 'Kaido's son'. Then again, IIRC Kaido blatantly states that he wished for a son and was disappointed in having a girl, so Yamato adopting a male persona may have just been a convenient way for Kaido to get his way retroactively. The narration text does say 'Kaido's daughter (self-styled Kozuki Oden)', so the metanarrative at least acknowledges Yamato's birth gender.
Yamato appearing in the men's bath at the end is definitely a thing, but it's also very much played for comedy with everyone (except Luffy and Chopper) commenting and overreacting to the naked tits on display. The mask Yamato wears at the beginning of the arc is specifically worn in Kabuki theater by female characters in mourning (masks are a very big part of Kabuki shows, think of it like a character wearing a black face veil in a modern movie).
Nami and Robin actively ask Yamato to join them in the bath, which means it's not meant to be apparent to them that Yamato isn't a woman, but also Luffy gives Yamato a nickname that is essentially 'Yamabro', styled in the same way as he nicknames other male characters, so Luffy seems to accept Yamato is a dude. Except also Luffy is kind of an idiot who believes literally anything anyone tells him, so... maybe he's not the best judge of this? Then again Luffy has been shown to have surprisingly insightful and deep emotional maturity before...
My point is there's a LOT of fuckery with what Yamato views themself as, and I think that was intentional on Oda's part, given that Wano is blatantly and unapologetically 'the Kabuki arc'. My personal stance is that Yamato is very much meant to be an ambiguous character that people can draw their own conclusions about. I like to think of Yamato as generally femme-leaning NB, if you will, but I also think that if someone else draws a different conclusion about the character, that isn't wrong or invalid due to their nature and the influences of the story.
Basically, I don't care what take you have about Yamato's gender, I just care that it's an informed one.
So basically BOTH characters are "victims" of parents who wanted a child of the other gender, but in Yamato's case it's a semi-supportive thing in that she actively desires to emulate her male hero and her father seems to encourage her in that pursuit, whereas with Bridget it's flat out psychological abuse i.e. "males are a curse (or something like that) so we're going to dress you like a girl and treat you like a girl and tell everyone you're a girl until nobody questions it" and, as I understand it, he eventually stands up for himself and not only fights to prove he's male but that being male isn't something to be feared or ashamed of. If you boil it down he had a "gender identity" forced upon him (i.e. an "assigned gender" to use a favored term) by parents wrapped up in "tradition" and superstition, and he's fighting against the gender bias and ignorance of that society. So basically he's doing what the trans community all claim to be doing, except he's doing it in reverse so they're all "big mad" about it because 1) they're desperate for "trans representation" and 2) because his situation shines a rather harsh light on the reality that far too many "trans-identities" are actually the product of abuse, manipulation, and essentially brain-washing from parents forcing their sexist gender-bias upon their kids, e.g. a mother who's had nothing but bad experiences with men so she abuses her son until he starts acting like a girl because that's the only way she'll treat him as human. "Bridget is trans now and totally identifies as female" is one of the most abusive and disrespectful things I've seen done to a character, because it basically spits in the face of his backstory and his entire purpose for fighting in the first place, like "yea, I engaged in literal life-or-death combat and faced my own mortality numerous times to prove myself as a man but hey, people think I look cute in a skirt so I'm totally a girly-girl now."
Long story short, yes, this IS a heterosexual pairing, and whether or not we ultimately agree on any of it I applaud you for not shying away from creating art that may yield controversy and debate. That is what art is SUPPOSED to do. It is MEANT to get people talking; to breach uncomfortable or uncertain topics in order to motivate people to talk about it. Silence on controversial subjects only polarizes society.
Long story short, yes, this IS a heterosexual pairing, and whether or not we ultimately agree on any of it I applaud you for not shying away from creating art that may yield controversy and debate. That is what art is SUPPOSED to do. It is MEANT to get people talking; to breach uncomfortable or uncertain topics in order to motivate people to talk about it. Silence on controversial subjects only polarizes society.
I'm no expert on Guilty Gear lore, but from what I've gathered, I actually accept and like Bridget being trans: the idea of casting off a burden forced upon you due to horrible circumstances (being raised as a girl because male twins are considered an ill omen) has been the driving force for the character since the beginning.
Since Bridget has gotten away from that and is no longer required to live as a girl, the question of 'what are you now?' comes into play. I think it's actually a pretty interesting to explore the idea 'living as a man' was not what Bridget actually wanted, and 'being raised as a girl' wasn't the issue at hand. Bridget wanted acceptance from their community, and achieved that through the previous games, but still felt like something was wrong. The conflation of being accepted by your community and your personal view of yourself is an interesting one, and realizing that she actually liked being a girl, and that's who she wants to be (now that it's an actual choice and not something being forced on her) is an interesting way to illustrate the concept that what you think you want and what you actually need to be fulfilled in life aren't always the same thing.
Again, not an expert on the lore by any means, so I may be missing some major pieces of context here. This is just the understanding I have pieced together from seeing people discussing it since the latest game sparked all this controversy.
Since Bridget has gotten away from that and is no longer required to live as a girl, the question of 'what are you now?' comes into play. I think it's actually a pretty interesting to explore the idea 'living as a man' was not what Bridget actually wanted, and 'being raised as a girl' wasn't the issue at hand. Bridget wanted acceptance from their community, and achieved that through the previous games, but still felt like something was wrong. The conflation of being accepted by your community and your personal view of yourself is an interesting one, and realizing that she actually liked being a girl, and that's who she wants to be (now that it's an actual choice and not something being forced on her) is an interesting way to illustrate the concept that what you think you want and what you actually need to be fulfilled in life aren't always the same thing.
Again, not an expert on the lore by any means, so I may be missing some major pieces of context here. This is just the understanding I have pieced together from seeing people discussing it since the latest game sparked all this controversy.
Basically, Bridget's village have a thing where 2 boys being born is terrible juju, so his parents raised him as a 'girl'. Bridget knows he's a boy and was trying to get away from the messed up reasons for how he was raised. Basically he was groomed into being a girl under messed up circumstances. Him claiming that he's a girl pretty much erases all the lore and history built up over the decades, that is why people had a problem with Bridget saying that he's a girl now. All of that history and lore was stepped on for the sake of pandering to the gender specials.
I get all that, but I actually like the idea of Bridget realizing it wasn't 'being a girl' that was the issue, it was 'not having the choice to be a boy or girl'. Now that Bridget has the choice, going through a journey of self-discovery that explores the idea that 'hey, you can still be a girl, but now it's because you chose to be one, rather than because you were forced to be one' is an interesting one.
A lot of the time, self-discovery stories like that just end up as 'the option you were forced out of is the only choice', but I think it's interesting to explore the idea of sticking with the option you were forced into, but examining how it's different now because you chose that option instead. Just going to 'the other side' from how you were raised is sometimes not really represented as a matter of choice: Society forced you to be X, so now you HAVE to be Y as a matter of defiance. What happens when being Y doesn't actually lead to the fulfillment you were hoping for? What happens when what you thought you wanted isn't what actually makes you feel better, and you're actually more comfortable with what you had before, so long as it's not something that was forced on you?
Ultimately I think it's a very personal story that should be up to personal interpretation. it's subjective, and especially given that it's only one possible ending for the character's story, it doesn't have to be take as Canon, just one possible way to explore the idea of self-discovery and how to find fulfillment once you have finally acquired the freedom to do so.
A lot of the time, self-discovery stories like that just end up as 'the option you were forced out of is the only choice', but I think it's interesting to explore the idea of sticking with the option you were forced into, but examining how it's different now because you chose that option instead. Just going to 'the other side' from how you were raised is sometimes not really represented as a matter of choice: Society forced you to be X, so now you HAVE to be Y as a matter of defiance. What happens when being Y doesn't actually lead to the fulfillment you were hoping for? What happens when what you thought you wanted isn't what actually makes you feel better, and you're actually more comfortable with what you had before, so long as it's not something that was forced on you?
Ultimately I think it's a very personal story that should be up to personal interpretation. it's subjective, and especially given that it's only one possible ending for the character's story, it doesn't have to be take as Canon, just one possible way to explore the idea of self-discovery and how to find fulfillment once you have finally acquired the freedom to do so.
With how the recent social climate has been, anyone who did know of Bridget's story should have seen this coming.
But yes, the kid never really had a choice in the matter, and people forget that in Japanese media even back then, such trans and cross-dressing characters were treated as comedic jokes to laugh at (either how that character acts or how others figure out what their physical gender is and the typical 'shocked' expressions and all that, such as when one character hit on Bridget in the past).
GG Strive gave Bridget more growth to chose how to live on his..no, HER terms, instead of trying to conform just-because.
You generally figured it out, Baku, but seems other folks haven't.
But yes, the kid never really had a choice in the matter, and people forget that in Japanese media even back then, such trans and cross-dressing characters were treated as comedic jokes to laugh at (either how that character acts or how others figure out what their physical gender is and the typical 'shocked' expressions and all that, such as when one character hit on Bridget in the past).
GG Strive gave Bridget more growth to chose how to live on his..no, HER terms, instead of trying to conform just-because.
You generally figured it out, Baku, but seems other folks haven't.
Bridget has never once wanted to be seen as a girl with his appearance in Vastedge XT set 5 months before Strive in the timeline saying things like I want to break the rules of the village. To return to the village as a boy....." and "Cute is unnecessary... I'm a man"
The proof these lot claim to show Bridget is "trans" is a single line that only occurs when you have a heartloss on Stage 7 despite a flawless ending having Ky's lesson to Bridget was to stay true to oneself (human) despite what people see (Gear), which only makes sense if Bridget stays true to oneself (boy) despite what people see (girl).
Also depending on how they are losing the argument, they'll claim Daisuke decided to make this change OR he always planned it from the start despite the logic that nobody would wait 20 years to reveal something about a character being something that wasn't commonly known in the Western zeitgeist, let alone Japanese one, in 2002 because "the world wasn't ready" despite other trans characters existing in anime decades prior. He was recorded at Anime Expo 2009 saying, and I quote, "While I was creating the characters in Guilty Gear, I had a spot for a cute character. I thought it would be too boring if the character was just cute, so I thought it would be more interesting to make the character a guy."
ArcSys opened a studio in California in 2017 and since then Strive has censored the game to appease China by removing references to the Ughyrs, Tibet and Taiwan... It isn't too far a stretch to say these factors influenced him to retcon Bridget's goals to be seen as a man to instead accept the identity forced on him from birth under duress because China hates media depictions of feminine men and the liberal left's hatred of them because they see it as "transphobic"... He even admitted to being "fairly conscious about marketing to the overseas audience and were strongly conscious about compliance to global standards"
The west never wanted Bridget back, you know who did? The Japanese who funnily enough Strive was selling poorly in Japan until the Bridget DLC and to this day Japanese fans still refer to Bridget as an otokonoko or crossdresser
The proof these lot claim to show Bridget is "trans" is a single line that only occurs when you have a heartloss on Stage 7 despite a flawless ending having Ky's lesson to Bridget was to stay true to oneself (human) despite what people see (Gear), which only makes sense if Bridget stays true to oneself (boy) despite what people see (girl).
Also depending on how they are losing the argument, they'll claim Daisuke decided to make this change OR he always planned it from the start despite the logic that nobody would wait 20 years to reveal something about a character being something that wasn't commonly known in the Western zeitgeist, let alone Japanese one, in 2002 because "the world wasn't ready" despite other trans characters existing in anime decades prior. He was recorded at Anime Expo 2009 saying, and I quote, "While I was creating the characters in Guilty Gear, I had a spot for a cute character. I thought it would be too boring if the character was just cute, so I thought it would be more interesting to make the character a guy."
ArcSys opened a studio in California in 2017 and since then Strive has censored the game to appease China by removing references to the Ughyrs, Tibet and Taiwan... It isn't too far a stretch to say these factors influenced him to retcon Bridget's goals to be seen as a man to instead accept the identity forced on him from birth under duress because China hates media depictions of feminine men and the liberal left's hatred of them because they see it as "transphobic"... He even admitted to being "fairly conscious about marketing to the overseas audience and were strongly conscious about compliance to global standards"
The west never wanted Bridget back, you know who did? The Japanese who funnily enough Strive was selling poorly in Japan until the Bridget DLC and to this day Japanese fans still refer to Bridget as an otokonoko or crossdresser
The text is also the color (and pattern) of the straight pride flag. This isn't about how they're both trans, it's about how funny it is that both 'sides' in what I see as a very silly and pointless argument (about 2 characters who I see aa very much so up to personal interpretation) end up at the same place: a straight couple.
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