This is Oliver, i had this guy for manny yeas now, he will be 11 this year, i consider him my old man these days, as big as he is he thinks he is still a shoulder cat, i mean i do let him up on my shoulders, but he fits from one sholder to the other with little room to spare, and with that little room he will get up and move around and then settel back down again. I had adopted him when he was still verry young, just a month or so 2 old, he had been abused by his previous owner, and when i heard that and saw him and his name, it reminded me of the movie oliver and co, and so i adopted him and had him ever since. and has been a great companion over the years