Sad but true XD

yep >.>

Given the number of comments on this, new saying: Nobody cares if you're not posting porn, unless your posting things that aren't porn but reference posting porn.

well that's because there is "porn" in the title.

Post some porn.
Get 9000+ watchers.

true 'X3

You know this has been proven by me that my watchers doubled when I did O:

win.

thanks >w>

lots of them

yeah >.>

So very very true.

very very very <w<

true, it's true with every website too >>

the number of +favs is relative with the size of the boobs. everything is math.

haha true XDDD

Given the number of gay people on FA, I doubt the validity of this statement.

everybody loves boobs. >.>

Post suggestive porn.

People talk about how they wanna do it.

maybe my next one >>

I like the part when it's completely true

yeah '>w>

Best (Furry) Meme Evar!!!

nah there are a lot of worse... I mean better memes >w>

wow lol :P

hehe yeah '>w>

eu sei.. por isso desisti desenhar safadeza..

sim lindinha *abraço*

*abraço juntinho* melhor desenhar algo estúpido e engraçado que algo safado

hehe sim verdade *abraço*

um hurray pelos MLP *abraço*

hehe sim X3 *abraço*

I know one pony in your icon is Braeburn, but who is the other one?

my oc pony Sunshine

Ah.

eyup

Post porn

Get more pageviews

well, you do this one >w>

i should slow on porn in a few months |B have you the template of your picture?

well that's good. but keep posting cute gals.
and you should use your head floating <.<
I don't wanna become a meme.

crap no! that's why I prefer to see his gallery! it's so good to see there's not full porn here D:<

the internet is for...

wow I must listening to this song again.

BAHAHAHAHA

<3 this picture

thanks >w>

Actually I'd like to see more clean art from you.

indeed

well that's everything I do >.>

Whoops sorry ^^;
I thought you meant you used to draw porn but stopped and now no one cares

well that's what most of people over here fears >.>

I know what you mean

Doesnt have to be porn for it to be worth looking at

so you are in the 2% of people over FA who thinks like this >w>

Agreed =w=

so true

yeah >.>

Porn=More +watch and pageviews.
That's a fact of the sad cruel world we're living in internet.

yep '>>

I care...

oh well thanks <w<

While I do like porn, and draw a fair amount of it myself, I find it refreshing every now and then to look through a clean gallery. But I guess it all really depends on perception. What one considers porn, others may think is art.

heh well the problema is that a lot of people over here are drawing only porn. and a lot of users are over here only for the porn '>w>
well thanks for the comment.

No problem. Yeah, the porn is all fine and good, but there is so much more here, like music, flash games, fan art and such. I'm here to show off my art, the naughty and the clean! I like meeting new people, too.

So true, unless it's something like what you've posted, or this http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4242617/ which got me six watchers

yeah and I worked on a game for weeks and I got only 4 comments >.>

Link me to it and I'll changethat :D

change to 5? >w>
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5508818

Only if you say I can't post several comments in the way some of my OC's would respond

hehe its ok

Okay~

its true..its soooo soo true :0

the truth is so sad ;w;

it's a fact for just about everyone here in the community. :<

yep >w<

I must be Nobody then, because I care. I'll look at somebody's porn, if it's reasonably cute, but I won't fave it. Because anybody on FA can do porn. Those who can be interesting without doing porn are the greatest artists on FA. So they are more deserving of faves.

Also, though it may be true that doing porn can get you more watchers, are those really the kind of watchers you want? More is not necessarily better if you end up losing all respect for yourself as an artist.

well but looks like most of people over here just care about porn nowadays '>w>

Appearances can be deceiving. People who like porn are loud. People who like other stuff may be quiet.

Pay a visit and see how well she does without porn. How things look depends on where you look.

oh I'll visit her later

Ain't that the truth. xD:
It does suck that a lot of good artists get overlooked because they don't draw porn.

and some awesome artist got stuck on only drawing porn >>

Agreed

That's a nice ad

thanks >w>

Your Welcome:)

pssh yeah -_-;;;

yeah psssh ;~w~

Psh. I like to think I'm proof of this concept not working;

No matter what I post, no one cares. :B

oh I see <w<'

no problem for me 8D

I see '>w>

I"m down for the no pr0n :3

ok <w<

Infelizmente é verdade, imagina publicar livros entao.

sim <<''

I've long since gotten over being upset over this. Only in an environment where risqué' material is Verboten! (and there are no alternatives whatsoever) will aesthetics and artistic skill be the sole determinant of attention received (in other words, 'good luck with that on the internet').

The only thing I find bothersome is the persistent implication that other fandoms would remain completely wholesome by comparison if they had to rely on their fans to produce the bulk of their material (without artificial content restrictions (glances at DA)).

well and most of people over FA who wants the porn aren't actually artists.

Yep <.<

sim >.>

Caramba a Palavrinha Porn é magica hahahahahaha e só coloca-la e bum lota de gente lol

Hey irmãozinho Aha não se renda a o Porn,pois vi mta gente que dizeno que nunca jamais ia desenhar porn e algum tempo de pois so tinha sacanagem e da brava >.<

eu antes procurava desenhar porn para assim treinar o desenho da nudez na arte mas fiquei brava de ver o pessoal gostava muito mais de ver esses desenhos e não os desenhos limpos, então decidi apagar todos eles e não voltar desenhar porn, estou voltando novamente desenhar o que antes fazia, desenhos para todo o pessoal incluindo crianças possam ver :3

Devo ter uma ideia de como é, ninguém liga para arte só pra sacanagem mesmo.

Para muitos desenhista isso é ruim pq depois que ganha a fama de desenhar porn pra tira é um porre, e neguinho ainda charopa contigo chamando vc de um monte de coisas.

nah eu não tenho como fazer isso. mas conheço gente que por causa disso, tem apenas porn na galeria '>w>

>_>...
...<_<
Nunca diga nunca irmãozinho Aha, vai que um dia vc acabe fazendo e BUM =P porn por todo lado, pq isso parece que vicia lol

não tenho tempo nem pra desenhos normais '>w>

oh really?

ok >w>

sweet finally no porn in my updates!

well there is the word 'porn' over there, so technically.. >.>

(Vader "NOOOOOOO") oh well!

This is why it's harder to get noticed in dA. >.>

maybe <<

Epic win. XD

thanks >w>

And that's why you are still respected around here. ^^ Fave!

because of my silly face?

That too! XD Nah cause you are more playful than anything. Its addictive and fun to watch your art postings! ^^

oh well thank you >w>

Vageta!? What does the Scouters say about this statement!?
Vageta: It's ovah 9000!!!!!

'>w>

Pra dizer a verdade.... eu não desenho porque não consigo... se disesse o contrário eu seria um hipócrita, mas já fiz o teste com minha fursona a pouco tempo (vc deve se lembrar)... O pessoal sempre valoriza mais o conteúdo adulto.

Meus desenhos tem entre 60~90 views e 10~15 faves... ^^;
Risew conseguiu mais de 400 views em 2 meses... rsrsrs

Quanto ao respeito, creio que vai do que o artista faz de sua própria arte...
Não vou desenhar porn nem outras coisas que não gosto só pra ganhar visitas.
Mas quero sempre fazer o que me deixa feliz. X3

e eu nem tenho tempo pra fazer nenhuma das duas coisas >>
e tem gente que está com auase 100% da galeria porn por aqui '>w>

Verdade... Tempo é um recurso escasso e não renovável... ^^;
Li o que você disse a respeito de gastar semanas pra fazer um joguinho e quase ninguém comentar... Eu geralmente sou quele cara que dá "fave'n run" por não ter tempo (e milhoes de pessoas na watch list... ^^; )
Admiro muito seu trabalho, sem querer puxar o saco, você é um cara talentoso e criativo (e vejo muitos por aqui que tem talento, mas nenhuma criatividade e vice versa).

100% de porn? ^^;
Haha Acho que sim.... E não devem ser poucos... O_O

bem no caso o jogo não teve muitos +favs também >w>
e segundos as minhas pesquisas, quem gosta só de porn, normalmente tem bem mais tempo livre que quem não gosta <w<
e sim, quase 100% '>w>

I prefer clean art.
In all honesty.. I wish there WAS MORE clean furry art out there.
I hate the fact that I was told I'm not a true furry artist because I DON'T draw porn.
It was like.. "Yeeah. Ok." Pft.

well people who draw clean art most of times get a bit sad over here. sometimes they do an awesome work and get only few comments. then someone else draw a crap porn and gets lots of comments. >.>

Exactly. Its frustrating. Granted.. I have done 2 images of 'porn' but in all honesty. I prefer the clean art as well as tasteful nude art. For serious.. its like.. no wonder people think we furs are sex crazed freaks. Look at all the shyte they gotta look at. e.e -snorts-

yeah and I mean, of course some people can draw well done nude pics, for example. but most of times a crap porn gets more attention that a nice clean work >w>

Such a cute face too...

hehe well thank you

:3

A friend of mine had an account here and posted two adult pieces about a year ago. I've nearly caught up to her in pageviews now.

heh I see '>w>

Welcome to the internets.

but I didn't take the red pill...

o.o no porn XD weeee

si X3

Ironically, if all the people who complain about this would take the effort to comment on not-porn, there wouldn't be any such problem.

well so I do my part. >w>

Its funny how true this is, have the perfect example on my gallery something I put close to no effort on and just posted it without even bothering to properly outline etc got 1000+ views almost instantly because its porn. Now the super awesome animation that I'm proud of finishing after 5 days+ of work has less than 30 views xD

hehe yeah that happens with everybody over here I guess >w>

I wik thish =D *hugs*

hehe thanks

Story of my account.

oh TwT

Not sure if you heard this one before, but "SO TRUE"


...But really, though. It's like, if you don't post porn, you get less attention, whether you're an amazing artist or not. And it's sad because people who don't NORMALLY post porn, when they do, they get 25436547658765 watchers in less than 0.5 seconds (which is typically what ANY artist could wish for just by posting a serious picture), and the art on it could even be complete and utter crap. To be blunt. heh

I really don't get it. I mean, I know FA is labeled a porn site, but don't people have any sense that what they're looking at might be just a tad... badly drawn (giving notice to the many porn pictures that have VERY awkward anatomy and positions that are nearly impossible)? Anyway, going by official statistics on the site, most of the members here DON'T post porn. So... does that mean that those members that make up practically the whole site, go unnoticed because they aren't as sexually driven?


^philosoraptor over here

yeah over here, most of times, a crap porn pic gets more attention then a nicely done clean work. also there is the commissions thing. I think like 75% of the commissions are porn things. most of time are people who can't draw their own stuff. and looks like those people are the ones with more money to use. so people over here have to draw porn to sell their work. >.>

I think I have noticed this phenomenon too.

and theres no way to stop it. it's like a tsunami >.>

Don't let it get you down, there's people out there who love people that don't post porn (or at least not lots of it). I is one of them. Keep your integrity! Don't succumb! :D

hehe well thank you ^^

I don't post porn
Even if you have epically good art and you don't post porn
People shit on your face

well not that extreme, but over here some cheap porn worth more than a nice and clean drawing '>w>

Like everyone says, it's true.

If I posted porn I would become much more populair.

hehe yeah

whats even worse is the same thing goes for everything i've tried with my stories. it would seem action adventure exploration heck even yoshi's don't gather peoples attention. :( i don't do porn it doesn't suit me.

well try make the story like suggesting it's gonna be porn but then... no porn. >w>
then you say "problem?" >w>

omg i couldn't do that. i'd give myself away before then. heh besides all anyone would really need to do is look through my gallery first. XD

So true.

hehe yeah

Ye it is kinda true in some cases, but imo it comes down to how skillfull and artist is that makes people watch them. If someone with exceptional skills posts things that aren't porn then that person would still get a lot of fans just because people like looking at skilled work that have resulted from thousands of hours of hard work to get to where they are. It's not for nothing the greatest names in art are the greatest. (But on FA porn is a way to get watchers fast lols)

I draw porn because I like to draw porn and post what I think is good of the works I make, not to get watchers but just because I can lols.

yeah at some point yes. but sadly that makes the artist kinda not motivated to post some 'normal' art. like when she/he posts porn, she/he gets a hundred of comments, critiques and intensive words, also a lot of +favs and views. then they try to post some non-porn, and the result is 20% only of the comments/+favs/views. the same for the commissions. most of commissions over here are porn. because of that I know people over here that forgot how to draw clothes already '>w>
nudism is fine for art, the artist can practice the anatomy. and some 'naughty' scenes are interesting if you think about the interaction with two characters in the same drawing. it's not that easy so I guess it may help you someway. but people over here [not them all of course] are almost like forcing you to draw only porn with their attitudes. I mean they could comment and +fav the drawings the same way, no mater if it's porn or not. '>w>
oh yeah and of course in your case i see no problema. but I know people who where "forced" to draw only porn '>w>

If someone want to get serious about art then they should ignore the people who only want porn and listen to themselves what they want to draw and not what other people want. Self-satisfaction is more precious then watches, favs and views. And since the attitude on FA is very porn-directed then one could actually find another place to also post normal stuff ya know.

yeah but most of artists on the interent do what their views want. same for blogers and everything '>w>
but sometimes they forget what they like because of so much porn >w>

Favin' because it's true~

thanks >w>

and that's why the sonic fan base is pathetic

why?

well it's not that porn in the sonic fan base is bad I'm actually a bit of a fan of it however at the same time I can't really supported because I just think it's gotten out of hand of how much pornography is made if you want the full story you could look at my rant on deviant art on my journal but short version

(sonic hentai is like fast food have it in moderation it's a good treat but having it all time it just makes you very unhealthy)

and that's my opinion I'm not against it or for it as much as in the middle was it and I think the simple if you don't like it don't look at it quote doesn't work anymore since there's so much of the stuff and how sexualize the entire fair base has become

well I'm not against porn as well. I just don't use it to get pageviews. and also there are porn pics and erotic pics. but also there are... "things"
and don't worry about the grammar when you talk to me.

oh yeah sorry about the bad grammar it's a long story to mention let's just say I have reading and writing problems

I guess you're right in some sense there is a difference between the two but what I'm trying to say is that rather than being soft on hard core it's still sexual and over all the influences that fan base or at least that's what I led to believe not just in sexual card but an average work as well mainly on how people to sign their fan characters I mean it seems like a requirement for every female that have the same body form as rouge the bat or out most of their outfits do a good job at showing off those ... Features I just think that there's so much sexual influence that exists influences the entire fan base to seriously though sexual which that's why I don't approve I rather prefer to sexual line of things to stay underground instead of being a huge part of the van base which I know some people may disagree that it is but from what I saying it's very true to put it simply the fan base needs to learn more self control but I can also understand why people like those sort of things like I said I'm a fan of sonic hentai myself so I can completely say it deserves to be obliterated like most people suggest

( sorry for the long comments on the guy who enjoys the debate are just enjoys talking in general ^^' I'll just quit replying if it gets annoying to you)

well anyway something I don't like as well about that and about all the fanbases is the modification of the personality/body of one character. like if the character we know would never do that, don't make him/her do that. if the character isn't like that, don't draw her/him like that. but well I mean I just think it's not fun. like make a character fall in love for a character he/she dislikes. if you want to make that, you need to do first a very well done explanation.

you do guide point I've noticed that as well no actual examples of love more like hate to sound rude but more like fuck Buddy after fuck Buddy and it's far too often that kind of stuff is posted no actual storyline or explaining billing up to the sexual scene it slide someone's watching a romantic movie and skips all the way to the one sex scene this is why I'm talking about when it comes to actual influencing and the fans based there's too much sex that that it over clouds everything else not to mention like I may have already sonic is originally supposed to be a kid thing can we have enough respect and responsibility as a fan base to just keep our naughty stuff private and just in pornographic websites and does every fan character needs to look like rouge the bat or just a masculine Guy with a sonic care workers head photo shopped on their sorry I like to read a lot and believe me this particular subject has been on my mind for a while ^^'

well the problem is that most of people over here don't want storylines they just want... porn. any kind of porn. they don't mind.
and then, we back to my pic/avatar.

aaaaa ya if only they care and see how they or harting the fan base

well either way I enjoyed and appreciated this chat I was worried at first posting a comment like that here I figured all I was going to get was they fuck off sort of thing thanks for proving me different good to see that

heh well no problema.

AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yeeessssss...?

i agree with the post. Pretty much if you draw what you dont like, then you get attation. You sir, show proof that is not always the case.

well most of people just prefer some cheap porn.

its like posting meta porn

meta porn?

porn of porn, or porn about porn.

Wot? - No porn, srsly, what am I even doing on this gallery then?

Lol... your flashing avatar caught my attention, and then it occurred to me "...that fox character's kinda familiar". Long time no see ;) (And no I won't be surprised if you have no idea who I am :p )

hehe well I don't know.
glad my avatar caught your attention. that means it worked.
and well I guess you are Ryuujin-0 on dA. >.>

This is old but meh
It looks quite awesome!

heh thanks!

i agree and approve this message

yay!

I care! I care!
HAHA! I like this alot.

hehe thanks X3

The history of my accounts u.u

I know the feeling ;w;

dude you are already, popular here. I'm sure even if you didnt post porn youd still get a legion of people kissing your ass about it.

pff nah I'm just over here for a long time >.>

Hi

eh hi

I had no idea what to say lol so "hi" it is

ok '>w>

I support this message.

yay

I fave more porn than I post. I guess I like the ballsy artists. Then again, I might be learning from them too. ~_@

I see >w>

Though sometimes it just gets boring after awhile. It's nice to see other artists try their hand at some good nudity art besides just hardcore porn all of the damn time. I think I like the good nudity art better versus the porn (though sometimes I confuse the two), furry porn, slash, ect. I'll comment and add some stuff to my faves, but I try to take in more of what I like and use the rest as 'practice art canon'. I'm still somewhat prudish when i comes to drawing nude art. I like seeing nude art, but I don't see myself in much nude art.

Aid it definitely sucks that really good art is often ignored in favor of the porn (FA) and all of the fanart (DA) - Although I don't have too much of a problem with this, I had a good friend leave for this second reason.-

well that's true. good art is good art anyway.

*edit - And it definitely sucks..*

Strange. I shall defy this phenomena!

wut?

U don't post porn either? me 2

XD

hehe cool

It's not how little attention clean art gets. It's knowing that some people can still truly appreciate something non-pornographic. And take that from someone who does not do anything but watch!

well I just wish good art should get more attention than bad porn >w>

Oh umm... Good point.

...I care...I CARE A LOT.

o_o

heh glad to know X3

true......

yep >w>

^^

Sex sells after all >.>

I guess X3

It's something I struggle with a lot. In fact, I've had a few artists turn me away for wanting something clean, silly, and fun. It made me really sad along with the fact some have... been passive aggressive about me wanting only clean art.

I've had sex. Awful and amazing, but I'm not entirely driven by the need to see it constantly. Some suggestive, non-nude, pictures are sometimes okay for good anatomy/color/line-art. Being that my fursona is physically based off me, down to markings and body shape, it would be far too personal for me to be engaging in explicit activities that I feel are more personal and private for me. So all the fun, bright, and silly things for me. Maybe something a little contemplative. :)

Also, I was wondering if you made that icon and if you did, would you be open to a commission for one similar to yours with a different phrase? Also, pricing? :3

hehe yeah people demand too much naughty stuff over here. but sometimes suggestive pics can be way more hot by the way.

and well that's just my "ahavatar" i turned into a silly gif. so the price would be the same as an avatar

I indeed o get aggrevated when I can't sell clean art and its mostly porn that does sell 8/ gotta pay the bills tho.

and most of times the clean art is much better and cheaper '>w>

refaving :P

rethanks!

Feet, porn, or some text explaining some highly complex sci-fi machinery.

Or be insanely good.

There are no popular non-fetish writers....

Well without resorting to porn you will get attention from people if you make fanart of something popular or do something really surprising and out of the ordinary... (Don't take this as an offense but I consider myself and most people to be ordinary... And even though a dressing game is an impressive feat, if it only features your original characters it will not get much attention I think..). Without resorting to porn, I managed to get a certain level of attention doing Banjo-Kazooie fanarts, it really got the attention from other fans... However my original works were never really noticed.
Here is the cover of a comic I wanted to release in 2016 but never did it: https://dreams-n-nightmares.deviant.....over-566183741