god i am crying over the fact this man was taken away from his child over this

Her reasons are valid though. Risk of future drug addiction and bad influence [dishonesty] is not to be taken lightly.

I think the context should’ve been better if it was a bottle of pills over a cigarette
Although I come from different region of the world
And yes I do agree he should’ve not said “when your older” it feels more like the mother being overprotective and ripping the family apart
And the context of the last comic showing kaohto friend here showing a box of a “stranger” gives me the idea that there some lost custody since he refers to him as stranger
Plenty of dads smoke hell mine smokes pot on a regular basis so either there some deep seated animosity between mom and dad or the mother is just going overboard
But I don’t excuse him smoking in front of his kid or approving when he older I do agree that’s the bad part but it feels there now a void in this characters life they will never be able to mend since I’m sure the father has past since we see the lighter in the box

If I could place a heart as a reaction on your comment directly I would.

i legit dont think this incident warranted a mother seperated her child from father that clearly loved him with all his heart, all for smoking a cigarette. he didnt do it in front of him. that child came up to his father wanting attention and he legit was trying to keep it away from him.

in that regard he clearly knew the danger and omitted himself away. just literally smoking is not enough to pull a family apart like that. and from what i can garner from this context. the mother can be the root of the issues here, forcing some kind of mentality that "dad is a horrible person" when she clearly possibly drives a wedge between him and the child. i predict if i am reading too much into it. shes the type that sees only his flaws so he turns to hiding and taking a smoke to cope with a loveless marriage. in the end only the son and father suffer being apart, and i know this might seem even sadder but i predict the father might be passed now since that lighter is in a small box with the child.

all this kid knows now is the vague image of man that one point was in his life and for a brief moment had the love of a father that was taken away over literally a cigarette that was not even forced into the childs view, he came to his father not the other way around

Thats why I am saying Is it possible a thought crosses his head and he convinces his mom to go on a bit of a road trip to find him and cheer him up and be able to at least visit. If she REALLY DOES CARES ABOUT HIM. she will cave and let her son have his way since this is such a serious situation emotionally. (My mom was a nurse and raised me to embrace those impulses and do as good as I can to make everyone happy). It takes two to raise a kid into a propper and well man. Thats my opinion. But. Both have to dedicate themselves to the best they can be in order for things to work out and not end up in a mess like I grew up in. I hope theres impulses like that bouncing around in that flicker of that lighter. A bond already clearly was astablished between the kid and his dad. All he needs is a nudge.

Shes gonna be very cranky but if HER son is willing to go places he should be allowed to understand some things and hopefully she doesnt say no or make up a dumb reason.

well as i did mention i dont condone how he went about it, but i think personally the mother should at very least speak to the father, help him through the smoking addiction rather than focus on seperating the child from such a situation. it doenst help anyone it just alienates the issue.

my main issue with her and this situation is mainly how its conveyed as if the family is broken and this is the aftermath of such an event.

although invertetly it could be the father died of lung cancer and he never got over the habit. but i dont really know since we dont see it from other perspectives. i just think that the father at very least is not actively trying to smoke in front of his son but went about explaining in the wrong way, i will admit that entirely he is wrong for that but the mother also perhaps didnt seem to care about the addiction to support and try breaking the habit.

having a child creates a family but that also is a partnership between two people that should also be supporting one another. the father while shouldnt smoke, might have had this addiction for a while and the mother needs to see it from both sides. childs sake and her husbands sake. helping from both sides as long as the father is trying and moving forward is what matters. but from my reading it seems the father was cut and now considered just "a stranger"

I think the inner child in me tugs at me to make the kid and mother go see him.. I lost my parents too soon. If they got a shot at reuniting as a family in some way. They need to try it. I hope the mother understands what she made her son feel like deep down.

full agree there, i understand in some ways its true a family is better off if the mother or father is abusive or too far lost in thier own issues if its harming the entire family but this feels like its just a simple thing of communication

thats just my inner father coming out

I need more of a propper father in my life lol. Keep being awesome. Im just going with the flow of my life for now till the world folds in on itself or gets its head out of its ass

well proper fathers help everyone ease the burden of issue offering advice and love when needed platonically. its always a void filled for a nurturing figure to offering love and support when you need it most

Couldnt have said it better myself

hope i didnt seem forward i always offer fatherly advice to those needing it. no shame ever asking and i always got an answer to very least ease the burden

Yeah Im ok rn. You are good. I just run around helping people online these days because I cant get a job lol. Welcome to my world lol. If you got a job. dont lose it

One non-incident where nothing really happened doesn't justify separating a child from a parent he already knows and loves at a formative age.

Woah I mean this is a very moral dilemma, because sure there's that but also trying to pass your addictions to your kids like that is very wrong :/

...he...he prevents the kid from touching the cigarette? Then makes a facetious comment about it? Is there some context I'm missing here?

Telling the kid he can when older and just keeping it a secret makes it ok.
Learning that so long as everything is done in secret, he can get away with it. Seems like father has been shady with this mindset hence the reaction.

That’s my take away at least. Had a junkie abusive father myself, these patterns are not new.

This isn't a pattern though! We're seeing one incident! You can't extrapolate from one datapoint!

I said it’s my take away. Not fact.

Star. Read my words. Go take a breather. Its just a comic. Breath. Youre diving too deep lol. Go touch some grass and remember the good times and feel free to pretend I dont exist.

I mean, right? it's suuuuper shady that it's being kept a secret and he's not outright denying the kid from smoking, smoking kills so many lives and it's so addictive, so getting your kid an addiction that will slowly kill them over the years and then play it off like yeah it'll be our secret, our dad and son thing, that's just wrong.

I'll just say, as a doctor, I will never defend a parent not discouraging their children from such a horrible addiction as smoking. It's like basically he's saying "Oh only older people can have this, don't worry some day you'll be cool enough to have some!" and then the kid will try to smuggle some, who knows what, because that's the role model he's getting. I don't condone that. Sure there's context we're missing, for all we know this might've happen several times before the mom took the kid away, or maybe it was a completely isolated event and the mom acted nuclear, which I mean, still don't fully blame the mother. In any case, it's wrong, you can't downplay smoking like that. If the father loves his kid so much he probably could've tried quitting it, knowing it could cause harm to the child, could smoke outside, could have proven he's out of smoking to get back his kid, idk I'm sure there would be ways to act after something like this would happen, but if the vice is too strong to handle in your imaginary scenario, then you'd understand why I think passing it to the kid is also quiiiite wrong.

Damn. The mom did the right thing at least in my opinion..... I know the damage smoke can do. That kids lungs will forever be cleaner despite the lack of him in his life

You clearly havent been the victim of father driven abuse and addiction like I have. You dont know how it feels and can only look at the surface. Get out of my sight know it all.

I do feel bad for the kid and wish I could cheer him up myself lol. It does suck not having a father.

You tell me how you feel when you do cpr on your dad while choking on smoke and the walls and certains and computer monitor in a overheating room are stained a disgusting piss yellow from nicotine. Thats what I had to live through because he wouldnt quit. Now im litterally stuck even after the fact and my throat is wrecked so when I get stressed out I end up throwing up

That... is what she's worried about the kid living through. Would you rather be lonely or be stuck with nowhere to go in life.

My dad was similar to a cop. Worked at a corrections facility. I wont say which one

Thats sad. The only thing I have to compare to that is my dad and mom not paying attention to me and me ending up with ferrets heading to the park at midnight in pajamas in a near blizzard. Yes. I DID THAT. And. To put the cigarettes topic to shame. How would you feel if your dad had the CLOTHES DRIER CLOSED WITH HIS ASS AND TURNED IT ON. He did that to me as a joke and rightfully got slapped so hard his head shattered a window and mom dug me out of the clothes.

If only you knew how I felt about you. You need a hug and a better life as much as I do. I hope you dont go through too much more bs in your life. Stay safe out there. Fight for whats right and try not to end up in this sort of fight too often alright.

If youre gonna block me and act like that you need a timeout. You started this and then felt bad and deleted everything related to what you said. Thats your doing dude. You acting like a jackass know it all started this. Have a good day.

Being honest. Its only been about 10 years. I wonder if he can go see his dad after all this time. The childish will I got is tugging at me and I want to see a continuation to this comic where him and his friend convince the mother to help them find the dad and see if the mans ok. I really want to see where this leads

If theres a way to at least find closure to thoughts that may be rolling around in the lil guys head before its too late.

Cunt.
Yes he was wrong but this?
No, you do not take a child away from a parent over this.

Rubs a tear off...

...ta mae.

Como es la vida, y como fueron cosas diferentes pero tan igual a la vez.
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