F35s belly is like a tomboy's abs

What the liberal radicals don’t realize is Nuclear Weapons are ultra important for both National and worldwide security.

Oh, they have no problem, whatsoever with some people having nuclear weapons.
Their fondest dream is for Iran and Hamas/Hezbollah to have nukes to (I quote): "Bring some actual balance of strength & respect to the Middle East, and force the Zionist Occupational Government (ZOG) to treat the true owners of Occupied Palestine like human beings." (blah blah blah).

And yes, I heard variations of this same "argument" spouted by several different fine individuals over the years. The scary part is that they were as serious as a heart attack about it.

I wonder if those people would believe you if you told them that Palestine existed long before the "Palestinians" did. Palestine is the Roman name for Israel.

The average activist tends to treat facts like a truck stop buffet. The inconvenient and/or unpalatable ones are ignored and/or left uneaten on the plates.

Or, they take a page out of Orwell, and anything doubleplusungood just goes down the memory-hole.

Yeah. That sounds about right. It's the definition of bigotry. "My mind is made up; don't confuse me with the facts."

The F-35 is hated for noise and yet the F-15 Eagle next to it is not? How does that make a lick of sense when a single engine is much quieter than twin afterburning turbofans? I mean if it is a mater of which delivers more thrust, it's clearly the Eagle.

The F-22 Raptor is in my opinion, louder. The 15s engines aren't as loud unless taking off full afterburner.

Oh yes, I concur because those turbofans deliver much more thrust than the Eagle, but the comparison of one jet aircraft being an issue because of noise while an objectively louder machine is next to it does not make any sense. I would imagine they complain about all the fighter jets there.

The far left has been trying to close Truax for decades. It's a "Military base! Weapons of war!"

We had a battle-ready F-16 on display at Wings Over Alpena one year. Also with two SPs on security detail.

For a time, there were a group of little old ladies/militant nuns infiltrating airshows to damage first-line military aircraft with ball peen hammers. Most have assumed ambient temperature by now.

If the "SPs" were USAF, they were APs (Air Police). That said, I'm reminded of a story I heard when I was in Japan. A Major General wanted to enter the building where I worked. However, he didn't have clearance nor a badge to enter. An A1C AP stepped in front of the General and told him to halt until he got clearance to enter the building. The General was none too happy about it and fumed the whole time he had to wait. Finally, a Major came out and signed for the General to enter the building. When the General returned, he asked the AP what he would have done had the General forced the issue. The AP said, "Sir, I would have splattered your guts on that wall." The General looked at him for a moment before saying, "Good job, Airman." I don't know if that's a true story but knowing some of the APs I've known, I don't doubt it for half a second.

Is that what they call them now? I left around 2007 and we were called SF, Security Forces. Depending on the base we were either armed with M9s and driving Impalas and responding to domestic disputes, God I hated living in Nebraska...

Or we were riding in HUMVs with a 60 and later a M249. I usually carried the ammo along with the rounds for the 203 while my hun carried the gun.

Kinda miss those days though...

Actually, that's what they were called in 1977 - 81 when I was in the AF.

I do remember my recruiter calling them that when I was signing up. Said I'd get a nice desk job in Hickam, no prob.

After basic and 3 days into tech school 9/11 happened. Our training got accelerated, we got changed to Security Forces, and within 4 weeks my Floridian ass got sent to the middle of nowhere Nebraska where the snow went over my head. And they gave me a 249. And shortly after, off to the sandbox for the summer before coming right back to redneckland in the winter.

Apparently instead of being just a military cop we became the Air Force's infantry too.

That sounds about right. While airmen rarely are used as "soldiers", the APs were trained to fight if necessary. However, they were mostly used to guard and protect our a/c especially the VERY important ones such as the B-2, the B-52, the B-1, the F-15, etc.

And the thing I hate the most is all my Army, Marines, and Navy relatives keep teasing me about what I 'flew' in the 'chair force' and how many coffee runs I had to do in the 'air farce', and then I show them the pics of me in my Kevlar helmet, flak vest, M60 and up armored HUMV and it shuts them up really quick.

"Which Air Force did you join?!" they'd sometimes ask me.
"US Air Force ya ignorant fucktard." I'd tell em back.

...still wished I joined the Navy like my pops though.

What you should have shown them was a photo of you walking your perimeter in snow up to your buttocks. My father laughed at me because I was in the Air Force until I showed him a photo of me in Misawa, Japan, and standing in a snowbank that was about that deep.

I did with me wearing all my Gortex gear. Snow was neat to look at but a bitch when working 12 hour shifts. And driving on ice, good lord.

But as much as I hated Nebraska winters, I really disliked desert nights. Did not realize how cold it got when the sun went down.

Yeah. But, when you realize that there's nothing in the desert to hold the heat at night, it isn't really surprising to realize it can reach freezing a short while after sunset.

Found that out the hard way when I didn't bring out my coat that first night. Only thing I hated more than the cold were the camel spiders. Good lord those things were like tailless facehuggers!

LOL

Poor babies. It's protecting their Commie @$$es and they hate it.

Who could hate the noise? I lived by a NAS a few years ago, even the early morning fly-bys were like music to my ears lol

Jet noise, the sound of freedom. Actual signs outside of Davis Monthan AFB.

They have the same signs by the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station.

I remember when we got a chance to guard some F-22s during a Red Flag about 15 years or so ago and I was shocked at how tiny it was next to the F-15s. I'm sure they were smaller than the 18s and 16s we had around too.

So expensive and it can only carry 6 missiles max?

At least from what the crew told me when chatting with them the 22s and 35s can link up with multiple other crafts such as 18s being used as missile boats while the 22/35 can tag distant targets when they are farther up ahead and enjoying the benefits of stealth.

Sounds impressive at least.

The F-16 pilots used to (I don't know if it's still a thing) refer to the F-15 as "The Great Prehistoric Bird Rodan" for its size. On the other side, I've seen a cartoon of an F-15 with two F-16s slung on underwing pylons.

Do you get the impression they're saying "Look, but don't even think of touching."

only jet their thats more bad ass than the F35 and F22 is the F15 why it can carry more weapons than both stealth fighters and can still fly even after a wing has come off making the F15 the most bad ass plane in the US fighter arsenals

No one was complaining when the 176th FS had F-16s, and now everyone in MSN wants to pretend theyre outraged with F-35As there.

You're not wrong. Collage student babies and certain demographics are coping.

The 115th FS had F-16's as well before converting to the 35s. The liberal leftists hated them too. They had an utter melt down a few years when a F-16 was forced to drop an empty drop tank into lake Mendota due to a broken bracket. The drop tank landed in the middle of the lake without any mishap. BUT it was witnessed by several people who mistook the tank as bomb. And the howling ensured!! "THAT COULD HAVE DESTROYED THE CITY!!!" "THAT JET WAS TRYING TO BOMB THE CITY!!" "THAT COULD HAVE EXPLODED AND SEND A MASSIVE TIDAL WAVE TOWARDS UW!" Some fisherman in his boat fishing a distance away, went over, tied the tank and towed it towards a dock since it floated like a big pontoon. The media was quickly there as the Air Force showed up with a truck and a couple airmen grabbed it and simply tossed it in the back of the truck. The citizens nearby treated it as if was a live bomb. Despite the Air Force showing the media it was simply an empty drop tank . The Mayor then demanded that the Air Force NOT fly over the city because that empty tank COULD HAVE EXPLODED LEVELING THE CITY!! The Air Force , to calm down the lunatics, altered their flight path out of the city when taking off.

And Yes, the hyperly fragile locals even complained when Truax once housed A-10s "Because they are loud!" and "They are armed with a massive cannon!" But the two biggest complaints over the F-35 was A: The loud engine, B: IT CAN CARRY A NUCLEAR WEAPON!!!" An Air Force spokesman said "Literally anything that flies can carry a nuke." OMG!!! ABOLISH THE AIR FORCE!!!

During Farmers Market around the Capital on Saturday mornings I still see the Hyper Left covering their ears as if a Fire Truck siren was going off 10 feet away or they flip off the passing jet grumbling over the "Display of Jingoism!"