Neat pistol, but I cannot lie for a solid three seconds when this first laoded I thought it was a makarov of some kind XD

Very nice artwork ^_^

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is the reason most of us know about the Makarov. Btw, I once saw a P-64 (Polish version of the Mak) at a gun shop in Fort Wayne, Indiana. It would have been back in 2007-ish, so it immediately reminded me of S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

This is so true XD
That terrible vanilla S.T.A.L.K.E.R. makarov will be stuck in my head, all those rounds blocked by a bandit's leather jacket XD

Thank you! It is chambered in 9mmMak! Not quite a PM but I love it all the same.

Hm... I've never heard of a VZ-82, though my first guess was it's history might be like the VZ-58, where it was literally a rebellious effort against the USSR by designing something that worked better than the Russian weapon they were handing out.
I checked, no not really, but still is hilarious in concept.
This is a knock off design of the makarov, which was a knock off design of the german walther PPK, a country Russia at the time kept struggling with both in WW2 and the cold war.
We have a inception of different countries indirectly making knock offs of the same gun as it Looks like the poles did something similar

The best part is the Czechs and the Poles were right next to the germans, they'd could have made a knock off of the source! But went with the Russian version instead, a country that they really didn't like.

I don't know the logic of everything of the history is just funny to me.



Anyway, don't worry your art is still as good as ever!

I used my own VZ-82 as reference. I'd say it's more than just a knockoff of the PM. The Czech design really added some features that set it apart from the PM or the PP. The ambi safety and ambi side button mag release is really nice and quite a step forward from the heel release of the earlier two handguns. It even uses a double stack mag for higher capacity. The Czechs really made a Western-like handgun while staying to the 9mmMak cartridge that they were forced to use by the Soviets.

So it is like the VZ-58 situation, the gun is the Czech way of saying "We'll show you how much you suck" to Russia.
Which from what I know of Czech history I've learned thus far, even to modern history, it is completely on brand with them.

It's a bit of the Czechs going "we can do it better in some areas" and "we don't want your stuff". The VZ-58 is more of a "we don't want your stuff" situation and they wanted a more domestic design rather than the AK regardless of how good or bad the AK was. I love the VZ-58 with how light, slim, and handy it is. But, mechanically, the AK does some stuff very right with how tolerant of sediment the inside of the receiver is. It's all a give-and-take with each design.

True. I mean I'm still trying to at least find someone who has both so I can come to my own conclusion which ones better (Though honestly style wise, VZ-58 wins for sure. Look, You give a AK a SKS makeover and you make me happy). Though I do know based on the fact things I like keep turning up to be Czech in origin (I don't know why either), is that the Czechs really do have a habit of finding very creative ways to be rebellious, and I do mean very creative, and the VZ-58 is a little bit of both "We can do it better" and "We don't want your stuff" but also probably also a little of a being a middle finger on top of that.

On whether its better, I'm kinda of on the "Each gun can do well in different areas, the only thing that determines if its good is if it can shoot without issues doing so"
Mostly because my taste in guns and what I like is a little weird in general. Some win style points, some win practical points, some win "Oh I can actually afford to shoot this thing" points, ect. And I have a list of guns I really want to try out, that probably won't happen, at very least for 8 years.
Although admittedly, if given an offer without the knowledge/experience, I'd still take a VZ-58 over an AK rifle, both in style and I like the ability to use stripper clips directly. It's too neat for me to pass up.

It's interesting how many Warsaw Pact nations had their own sidearm designs. My father has an East German Makarov(bought from Utah Connor, the designer of the UC-9/UC-M21 folding SMG; they were coworkers for a time) and I have a FEG PA63; it's interesting how many differences there are between the two. I prefer the side button mag release of the PA63, but the Makarov has a bit less bite in its recoil impulse.

I guess the same could be said for NATO states. The US held onto the 1911 for a long time, West Germany issued Walther and HK handguns, Italy had Beretta, Spain had Star, France had Saint-Etienne and Tulle, Belgium had FN. It's a whole collectors market for each of these fields and it's equally fascinating as it is confusing. And then there are the copies of handgun designs by other countries and then it just becomes a strange mess on either side of the Iron Curtain in terms of handgun designs that get adopted. I do like the PM. But once I got ahold of the VZ-82, it was honey to me. I haven't gotten ahold of a PA63 so I cannot comment on that from experience.

Realy nice, love the face. Armed and Cute :3

Thanks!