So the only way forward is to push yourself right? Well I though it high time I actually try and make something that looked like it had semi realistic fur, and well..while i was at it, perhaps hair as well, cause i avoid stuff like that cause its tricky and so...here is Gem in all her adultness, no padding and more importantly no lineart. I took Reva's suggestion to step back and spend some time doing something to see what I could come up with and well for a first attempt at trying to make realistic looking hair and fur I think thats not too shabby. The only way is forward right?