Oh goodness. I have to agree.

That and I really dislike the argument of when I post human or even semi-anthro art on here and people baww and want me to take it down because they don't find the human body "visually attractive"

Uhm. Hello? Furries are animals with people anatomy, even if you slap an animal penis on it, it's still standing upright like a person with hands and feet, human height ranges and weight ranges, etc.

I dunno I just don't understand that viewpoint. Dx

Fur and Scales add +100 Sexiness

Well in my view, if you fap to a human body with fur on it, it's still human anatomy. :/ Therefore you appreciate it and find it "visually appealing"

That and 99% of the furries I've gotten into debates over this subject (I'm not wanting it here too.) are those "forever alone and bitch about it so much" why? Because they claim to "only like furries and find humans disgusting" okay. Well. You're jacking off imagining you could tap that tiger girl's ass with your human dick, you're touching your human dick. If you're so repulsed why aren't you repulsed by yourself? You're a human get over it.

That and whenever there's a girl around, they show no interest in them because they're "not covered in fur or scales which makes them inferior"

Tl;dr version: Furries are fantasy beings, as nice as they'd be to be real, they're not. So get over it and like human anatomy, because you can't be in a suit forever. If you don't want to like human anatomy don't bitch about being alone in the world. (Or in some furries cases result to fucking animals :/)

That's just my thought, I love furries and the idea of them, but under that fur it's bare bones human structure. So fapping to it makes you just like everyone else, you're just using the ears, tails, and fur as a crutch to be a special snowflake.

Not all the anatomy is human, especially if you look into the less anthropomorphized characters. Not fully feral, but still only barely human.

And apparently you know not of the perceptions beyond the concept of visual reality...

I show no interest in girls, but thats because im gay.

And here is where I hate you, because you don't know what animals want, so don't you dare speak for them.

Repeat lines two and four here.

Barely human exactly. there's still human bits in there.

Visual reality? I know what's real, and what's fantasy, a person dressed up in a fursuit doesn't make anthromorphic creatures real. You're just in a costume, still human under it all.

And same the same situation applies to whatever gender you're attracted to.

Oh, and sure, I don't know what animals want but sexual intercourse with an animal is just wrong. You think the animal is enjoying it or "needs it" no. You're just filling your sexual needs and claiming consent, unless your dog can speak and say "let's fuck" then don't talk to me about me "not knowing what animals want" because neither do you. Also did you know you can cause severe trauma and even kill your dog by fucking it?

Oh wait. I forgot, it gets you off and you know so much about it from the internet right about "safety" with bestiality? Take it from someone in vet school. Animals are built differently to accommodate their own species, not you. (Oh and your dog humping you is a dominance thing, so don't try and play that card.)

Looking at the art is one thing, sure, but if you actually screw your dog it's another story. Therefore there IS a line between fantasy and reality.

Learn it.

Also: Way to make the furry community look like a bunch of 10 year olds on the internet "I hate you" such a childish reply.

Discussion over, my first post was satire, if it made you butthurt then get over it and don't be pissed off when I'm put into debate mode and spit out facts as well as my own opinions.

Have a good day. :)

Im not one of them so it doesnt matter.

And it has nothing to do with a fursuit, it has to do with what people with conceptualistic views refuse to believe exist.

As a well practiced empath, I know quite a bit more about an animal's wants and needs than what you claim to know. In your eyes, the person that has an animal make a legitimate come on, NOT DOMINANCE, the person is still at fault. Take it from someone who's had experiences with animals without wanting it t happen. Since it has nothing to do with MY sexual needs, then Im quite sure im not at fault. I dont care about dogs, they have incessant loyalty, so the situation is different.

And apparently you don't know the difference between Beastiality and Zoophilia. It's not always rape, especially when a sexual factor isnt necessarily pertinent in an animalistic relationship. Not all animals fuck for dominance or reproduction, quite a lot of them do it for the fun factor as well.

There is a line between fantasy and reality, but that line is controlled by people who guess what fantasy is, with know proof of what is real or possible. The scientific community is full of limited viewpoints based on conceptualism, with no real perception of what this world hides.

I have had real relationships with not dogs, but wild animals, so how about you LEARN SOMETHING, and fuck off.

when you're speaking to a group who has differing opinions from you, it's not only nice but also probably in your own interest to show some appreciation for, and acceptance of, their views. you sounded so egotistical i don't even want to respond to your argument with words. it doesn't feel like you deserve that. please, next time, just make an argument rather than releasing your anger inopportunely on everyone around you.

(Yet you reply to it anyways even when you claim it's not worth a responce?)

I like how I'm the bad person here when the person above me stoops to a 10 year old's attitude and says "I hate you" to me, when I never said anything like that to him.

Just because my moral code doesn't meet your standards doesn't give you a reason to "hate" someone.

Furries are so silly sometimes.

Have a good day. ;)

you're not the bad person; you just spoke in a tone that very much offended my sensibilities. and that's right: i said i didn't want to respond with words, but i did it anyway. i wanted to make sure that my detest for your arrogant attitude got across to you, which it wouldn't have with words like "i hate you," which are not altogether descriptive in terms of context. people who feel they are morally superior irk me because, as a person who's actually done thinking about her opinions and her place in the world, i realize that one necessarily comes to realize from doing so that it is reprehensible and ultimately futile to try to force one's own opinions on someone else. i'll wish you a good day too, but i'll actually mean it because you're a fellow living creature.

Whenever someone comments like that I figure they're really into their own opinions. X3 Luckily even when artists hear people like that, it usually won't stop them from drawing males, females, humans, or whatever their narrow fans want.

xD I just can't understand the fandom sometimes is all. It's more a thing of "..we live in our world and fantasy is great but it's not healthy to run around with rose coloured shades on"

But apparently nobody in the descending comments from mine see it, or the humour, sadly.

Maybe if furry wasn't such a big, common thing for us all, we wouldn't take the community for granted, and we'd be happy whenever people drew furry things, instead of always expecting them to and being upset when they don't.

True. .__. I mean hell, compare it to Deviantart where furries are harassed and trolled to take their art down.

By the way, I wasn't intending for just a big fff. I don't even know what to call it. To happen but yeah, I'm sorry. D: I'm not a troll or anything. Just a hard headed woman who's not in the mood for anyone's crap right now really D|

The web is really different now, furry communities, art communities, and everything else is changing, and in a lot of ways not for the better. It's kinda hard to find any place with great intentions. So far I kinda like how a few websites I'm on have a "no drama" rule so people are more likely to be respectful, and then have a community that understands those rules support it when problems come up.

And it's okay, I don't mind. I was worried about much worse debates being on here. X3

Isn't a non-furry still weird? o.O

Everyone is weird but not everyone has caught on. 8D

We should remind people than. *Nods*

my non furry friend made sure today that i don't think that people outside the furry fandom really hate furries... they just don't ship the pairings and, since that's an integral part of our culture like any, it makes people uncomfortable to be around that a lot. those things you mentioned remind people of other things in their own culture that squick them. cubs of pedophilia, ferals of bestiality, and fursuiters of sad people in costumes who can't get laid any other way... i.e. a level of patheticness that they themselves could fall to. so that's why a lot of furries think the way they do. i've had friends tell me many times that they're squicked by pairings including cubs. ferals are fine... and fursuiters are even more fine cuz "they're just human underneath."

They think I'm weird, but not weird enough. I can clearly do much better to immediately unsettle those around me.

I dunno I got 100% weirdo vibe from you I remember clearly how shaken I was.

You could still walk, talk, and even draw a picture relating to the movie I showed you. Hardly qualifies as completely shaken in my book.

I didn't come back alive.

Such a shame. Good thing Ghost Nishi (Ghoshi) has picked up the slack nicely. That's all we can ask from specters these days anyway.

Lovely

the ones who claim to be normal are mostly the strange ones :3

Or even just annoyin' when tryin' to convince you how normal they are!

Well,,, this is a good question Nishi,,, Well I know that if some of my no furry friend would know that I'm furry and that I also draw cub pic I'm sure they would burn me on a stake claming that I'm an heretic I also have a friend who's not furry and he knows what I do... it doesn't bother him and I've also shown him furry website... He's a Dragon fan ans he like it... I'm quite sure he has an account here also but he dont want to tell me I think that has really gave a good idea... Yeah... it's more like a question of culture and mentality... Héhé I know that I'm not to weird... I think *Lift the Panda by the hip and go to a comfy place* Héhé sweet heart,,,, nice fuzzy bums Watcha you doing

Damn I wish I was so normal that I wore sunglasses indoors, or wherever that darker background is.

Only the common straight man on webcam can pull it off. B-)

tru

I don't get it, and frankly, I dislike anything human-related, so yeah.

Oh God! That's it! I'm going to pull down Lesbuni's pants and underwear and ferociously rub her vulva!

Well be careful, she might be a college student but once things get sexual a lot of people will say it only matter what it looks like. 8D

When I was a kid, all the way through to when I was a teenager, I would try and try to teach my pet cats and dog to stand on two legs and speak English. So in my imagination, that's what anthros are; animals who walk on two legs and speak English. That includes humans, which are also a species of animal.

the Panda is cool!

Oh, it's definitely really odd that people do that! I don't think anyone who's concerned about what's normal are going to think that furries are normal, except for a few furries themselves. And one thing that's really neat about the fandom is that there are lots of places and ways that people can do things that they're interested in, even if those things aren't thought of too well by everyone outside of it. So I wouldn't wanna give up those cool parts of furriness just to appease a few folks outside of it! But I guess for some people they really want to seem normal like you show, and so they think by attacking people who're different from them they'll make themselves seem better by comparison. You definitely make a great point here, and an enjoyable lil comic! :)

Haha, it's a tough subject to approach right! X3 I wanted to make it for a while, but even with political cartoons they seem kinda cheesy and I always wanna avoid that if possible. X3 It's definitely better to have fun doin' things your way, rather than shiftin' to make some strangers think someone out there isn't weird. X3 And whenever someone's all focused on seeming perfectly normal and not weird, especially by bashing others, it doesn't really work well or solve much or help anyone. X3 I'm definitely glad you're so cool with all your stuff too! (:

Well i actualy dont mind hooman sex irl. I just dont like cartoon hooman sex. Idk why i dont. I just dont