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Life in prison = 3 million tax payer's dollars spent on luxury that most of the tax payers can't afford themselves, on people that are below scum of the earth.
Death penalty = not 3 million dollars (not sure what it costs, but has to be less) to eliminate completely a threat to society. Ad for the pain factor of the death penalty. I think it SHOULD hurt. Good old fashion hangings would detour a lot of crime.
Death penalty = not 3 million dollars (not sure what it costs, but has to be less) to eliminate completely a threat to society. Ad for the pain factor of the death penalty. I think it SHOULD hurt. Good old fashion hangings would detour a lot of crime.
Nope. The death penalty actually costs more.
http://www.deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=42
http://www.deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=42
Sharply slanted statistics at best. Of course an anti death penalty site would do that, it proves their point. One more reason a good old fashion hanging would be better. $6 rope and a couple grand for a galose or however you spell it. The problem with California is that they have death row, but literally never excecute anyone. So of course it costs more. Prove their guilty, give them an speak or two invade someone had it in for them, then string them up.
Same here. I respect your opinion, but next time you cite the cost difference, use a valid source. The info you posted is a good place to start research, but its at least 3rd hand info. That site got it from a newspaper, who presumably got it from their source. Go to THAT source for evidence that will truly stand up in a debate. Also, California is a really bad example. They couldn't budget their way out of a paper bag.
I think it is valid to present an argument that someone has put together. This document cited proper sources. I did not feel the need to find primary documents for a comment on FA. However, I really only grabbed something I found on Google real quick to back up the general idea. Trust me, I am no stranger to proper research. I study physics in college. My education is based on proper research methodology. I just didn't see the need to do a few hours of research to make a small point.
Agreed about a civil debate, and i thank you for that. I am no stranger to college work myself, finished 6 years of it, i better be familiar. I still would have to say that source was not valid. Their primary sourceis a newspaper, which is not a credible sourcein most circles. If they had other, credible sources, i would say it was valid, but since their source isn't valid, I'd have to say no still.
Well, newspapers usually seem to be a good start point at least. I really just meant it to be a good jumping point. So you can take the information there or research it yourself. I was not planning on it being the deciding factor of any argument. I had researched the topic for a term project, and I found this article to summarize some of the basic statistics I had found during that project. I really didn't expect the source to be analyzed so thoroughly lol.
I wish we had the torture penalty followed by the death penalty.... I mean SURE, the Death Penalty is all good, but if I don't know, a murderer has killed some people he's made their loved ones suffer, and if we just kill him that's it, chances are he won't feel any pain, to be fair, he must feel pain as proper punishment for what he has done.
But that's just me and my opinion really o,,o -is also forever alone- DX
But that's just me and my opinion really o,,o -is also forever alone- DX
I think when you are sent to the death chamber, and you know you are about to be killed, and that this is your last 5 minutes on Earth, then you start to get scared..
And the lethal injection isn't painless although people say it is. It makes you go into cardiac arrest while you're paralyzed. The electric chair can be less painful and instant death if done properly.
And the lethal injection isn't painless although people say it is. It makes you go into cardiac arrest while you're paralyzed. The electric chair can be less painful and instant death if done properly.
true, but it's more about seeing it, I mean, I believe in the darkest depths of our soles and mind, we love seeing bad people getting a taste of their own punishment.
Now while I do know that lethal injection is painful as with the forcing of the organs to shut down and what not then rapidly decay, I'm not sure. But as for the last 5 minutes of their lives, I don't think being scared atleast to me is good enough I do understand you may disagree, but I don't know, I like knowing that if someone has wronged me in such an extreme way that they got what they deserved.
This is probabily one reason i shouldn't go into politics....not that I'd go far 8/
Now while I do know that lethal injection is painful as with the forcing of the organs to shut down and what not then rapidly decay, I'm not sure. But as for the last 5 minutes of their lives, I don't think being scared atleast to me is good enough I do understand you may disagree, but I don't know, I like knowing that if someone has wronged me in such an extreme way that they got what they deserved.
This is probabily one reason i shouldn't go into politics....not that I'd go far 8/
Aye, we in the UK still like to keep a smiley face on justice and human rights. But here which annoys me is there is a recent case, 2 knife wielding buglars broke into someones house and one of the robbers got stabbed to death by the owner of the house and the owner is going to prison, (sorry to change subject) I personally believe if you break into someones house you give up your human rights and all bets are off from there in.
Maybe I have a depressing look on this sort of thing, but it is what I believe in. o..o
Maybe I have a depressing look on this sort of thing, but it is what I believe in. o..o
No, but i'm talking about death penlty vs life in prision. I dont belive in the death penalty, but if they want to die and all they are doing is eating up tax money then fine just finish it. Also (not trying to be mean) if we use your logic then criminal justice is just a goverment funded vengence/eye-for-an-eye program. I beleive criminal justice is (or should be) used for 1) to discurage the offencer and others from doing it again and 2) rehabilitashion. Plus we shouldn't stoop to their level.
I understand where your coming from. However, we should never forgive the the crime but, the person is a differnt story, as strange as it sounds. Even if we dont ever forgive ( we should never forget (if we do we are doomed to repeat)) that dosnt give mean we should condem. Humans dont do bad things out of instint. Its the result of mistreatment, neglect, eventual coruptshion, revenge or some mental dilushion. Now, none of these are excuses and should NEVER be treated as such. I just mean to say that evil things are not base human natchure ( if they where then they would be accseptible). If they aren't human nature then they can be corrected. I'm not saying there should not be punishment. I'm just saying i'm not ready to give up on those whom socity deams garbage.
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