Bleh Black Legion. >->

it is the army that i have been playing for 12 years :P

IRON WARRIORS FOR LIFE!

nothing my devestator squad can't handle

nothing that a chaos sorcerer of slaanesh and a few obliterators cant take out in a turn.. that or just bomb the hell out of them with the defilers

the emperor has awsers for all things

IRON WITHIN IRON WITHOUT!

the imperial fist is going to LOVE you.

there going to love the iron cage. Just where they belong!

Poor Abbadon...he probably curses everytime the Demolisher cannon gets blown off and the Vindicator suffers from "One Gun Syndrome" courtesy a stray Autocannon from a Guardsman. :P

well, for that its worth, people tend to focus more on defilers then vindicators, so abandon dosnt get to pissy about it :P

Just too bad he can't pawn Iron Warriors Warsmiths to fix his armory. :P It's probably the only thing that keeps their vehichles running, especially with Obliterator distractions.

i really miss my old war smith... i ended up losing allot of my army over a few moves to new places, i am back up to 2000 points, but still.. i had an army that played in the eye of terror game held at the 2004 toronto games day

It's a good thing though right now that their Loyalist counterparts have but one wound. :P Now come the next Chaos Marines codex, they need some Cultists as a scouting meatshield.

lol true enough.. i am just gonna toss this one out there... i hope they bring cypher back, he was a bad ass

I use the current space marine codex for my Legion army. The current chaos marine codex sucks unless your doing a cultist army :(

i honestly think that the chaos army sucks so badly now because they were so good in the past. it seems that good always have to win, so they make the "evil" worse and the "good" better, i mean hell, in the horus heresy the mechanicum joined chaos, the people who make all the fucking armor, weapons, tanks. ect, but the last new thing chaos got was what? the defiler? that was how many hears ago? and how much new shit has the space marines and grey knights gotten, the forces of the emperor get new shit, when chaos have the men to make it... it is a real piss off

A big problem with Chaos Marines is that they are overpriced...look at the Rubric Marines - they are even more expensive than GK Purifiers. O_o The other big issue is effective anti-armor is expensive for them...and they have no psychic defenses.

Of course I could point out other issues (like the fact the Sanguinor and Kaldor Draigo, both the same price as Abbadon, can outclass Abbadon...or that the Chosen don't seem so elite as they should be), but I think the biggies is cost, anti-armor dakka and the lack of flavor in the units.