
Most people that know me well have asked me if I have any recordings of myself, playing either piano or organ, and the answer is...“no”. This is mostly because, having been an accompanist, and church pianist, most stuff isn’t recorded, and even when it is, it’s about the performer, and not me. But, I do have several recordings of a pipe organ, on which I and a very good friend of mine did a lot of work and several days of performances on. During some of the pieces, while one can’t really call two organists a “duet”, they came pretty close. In this case, this performance is of the Navy Hymn, “Eternal Father, Strong to Save”.
Why did I pick this piece? Being a Navy man, I have always enjoyed this piece. I have sung this piece solo and as a member of a quartet, at more than one Navy function, retirements, changes of Command, and Memorial Services. In this case, it’s a performance of a very broad and majestic arrangement for organ and trumpet. In this case, I’m the “trumpet”, which is really me, taking over the “bombard” division of the instrument, while the other guy plays the accompaniment.
This piece is a very technically difficult one, with 4 hands and 2 feet going non-stop from beginning to end. If you’re timid-of-heart, then this piece is not for you. It goes from a moderate registration, to absolutely full-organ at the end. If you don’t have a good stereo to play this on, then you’ll not get the full effects of everything. The 32’ pedal stop of an organ resonate at 16hz at the lowest notes, which most stereos don’t deal with very well. The high’s for this instrument go well into the 8000hz range. In other words, just crank this right up, close your eyes, and let yourself BE there, listening to this live.
Dr Robert Vreeland is one of the finest organists I have ever had the privilege of working with. He and I have done some remarkable music together, from countless church services and multiple denominations, him on the organ and I on piano, to memorial services. Music is something truly in the here-and-now, and I think this performance illustrates.
I did all the sound engineering and mixing for the entire performance, which started out as a comedy of errors. I did everything by the total “math” and “geometry” of the room, pacing the mic’s at where they should have been mathematically the more sound-receptive. After about two hours of having Bob play a bit, recording a bit, and playing back, trying to adjust the various sound levels of the mic’s for optimal balance and clarity, things just weren’t going by the proverbial numbers. In fact, for sake of better description, the recordings were sounding like we’d taken the entire instrument, dropped it into the bottom of a well, and then had someone play while some else held a cheap, $20 microphone over the top, with bucket and all. It was just horrible. After another hour of messing with levels, I finally got frustrated, and threw the proverbial math book out the window. What better “sound sensor” do you have than your own ears? So, that’s what I used.
I started moving all 10 mic’s around, placing each one where it was best suited, and where those particular divisions could best be heard. The most humorous was trying to place the mic’s for the pedal divisions. Given that 32’ stops - those are those /really/ big ones, that go from floor to ceiling, that you can stick your whole face into and look around - can resonate down into the 16hz range (for the low, low “C”). That being the case, conventional microphones are simply out-the-door when it comes to trying to record a pipe organ. That’s where PZM’s come in. They don’t record sound /waves/ like most mic’s. They record sound “pressure”, which means that there are no “frequency” limitations that exist with most mic’s.
I had Bob continue to play, especially in the pedal registers, and he had a really hard time playing, mostly because after I’d thrown out the proverbial book, I had resorted to rather unconventional methods to fine where bets to place the mic’s. Let me illustrate things for you.
The stage was slate, which is wonderful for acoustic resonance. So as Bob would be playing, I’d be roaming around on the stage in circles of ever-decreasing diameters, looking for the highest clarity in the pedal notes. Eventually, once I’d narrowed down the area a little, I’d start getting lower, and lower, until eventually, I was on hands and knees, still going in little circles, with my ear about a foot off the stage floor, listening for the absolutely most perfect “sweet spot” to put the PZM’s. The pedal division is diatonic - meaning split into two sides of alternating notes - which means I had to repeat the entire humorous process for the other side as well.
In the end, after about five- or six-hours of set-up time, I had managed to pull the instrument back out of the well, and gotten the recordings to sound about 1000% better, so finally, we were ready for launch.
So, this is Dr Bob and Dr Mick, performing together, him playing the accompaniment, I on the solo stops and doing my evil, loud, obnoxious registration thing (that I’m totally known for), for the Vreeland/Manoram arrangement of the Navy Hymn, “Eternal Father”.
This performance was recorded on 03-Oct-99, at Hillcrest Seventh-Day Adventist Church, in Bakersfield California, United States. The pipe organ was built by Wesley Pipe Organ Company, and is approximately 104 ranks, and 87 stops, and almost 6000 pipes.
The recording was created using 4 Crown PZM microphones, 2 super-heterodyne Sennheiser microphones, 2 heterodyne cardioid Sennheiser microphones, and 2 cardioid ElectroVoice microphones, mixed down on a Peavey 16-2 mixer, and recorded onto a hard-drive recorder in stereo, 44.1kHz, 16-bit sampled audio, originally into .wav format, for ADD quality.
Disclaimer: I hate to have to put this on here, but the performance is copyright myself and Dr Robert Vreeland. Please do not distribute, copy, alter, etc, without my permission. Having said all that, feel free to download and use it for your own inspiration.
Why did I pick this piece? Being a Navy man, I have always enjoyed this piece. I have sung this piece solo and as a member of a quartet, at more than one Navy function, retirements, changes of Command, and Memorial Services. In this case, it’s a performance of a very broad and majestic arrangement for organ and trumpet. In this case, I’m the “trumpet”, which is really me, taking over the “bombard” division of the instrument, while the other guy plays the accompaniment.
This piece is a very technically difficult one, with 4 hands and 2 feet going non-stop from beginning to end. If you’re timid-of-heart, then this piece is not for you. It goes from a moderate registration, to absolutely full-organ at the end. If you don’t have a good stereo to play this on, then you’ll not get the full effects of everything. The 32’ pedal stop of an organ resonate at 16hz at the lowest notes, which most stereos don’t deal with very well. The high’s for this instrument go well into the 8000hz range. In other words, just crank this right up, close your eyes, and let yourself BE there, listening to this live.
Dr Robert Vreeland is one of the finest organists I have ever had the privilege of working with. He and I have done some remarkable music together, from countless church services and multiple denominations, him on the organ and I on piano, to memorial services. Music is something truly in the here-and-now, and I think this performance illustrates.
I did all the sound engineering and mixing for the entire performance, which started out as a comedy of errors. I did everything by the total “math” and “geometry” of the room, pacing the mic’s at where they should have been mathematically the more sound-receptive. After about two hours of having Bob play a bit, recording a bit, and playing back, trying to adjust the various sound levels of the mic’s for optimal balance and clarity, things just weren’t going by the proverbial numbers. In fact, for sake of better description, the recordings were sounding like we’d taken the entire instrument, dropped it into the bottom of a well, and then had someone play while some else held a cheap, $20 microphone over the top, with bucket and all. It was just horrible. After another hour of messing with levels, I finally got frustrated, and threw the proverbial math book out the window. What better “sound sensor” do you have than your own ears? So, that’s what I used.
I started moving all 10 mic’s around, placing each one where it was best suited, and where those particular divisions could best be heard. The most humorous was trying to place the mic’s for the pedal divisions. Given that 32’ stops - those are those /really/ big ones, that go from floor to ceiling, that you can stick your whole face into and look around - can resonate down into the 16hz range (for the low, low “C”). That being the case, conventional microphones are simply out-the-door when it comes to trying to record a pipe organ. That’s where PZM’s come in. They don’t record sound /waves/ like most mic’s. They record sound “pressure”, which means that there are no “frequency” limitations that exist with most mic’s.
I had Bob continue to play, especially in the pedal registers, and he had a really hard time playing, mostly because after I’d thrown out the proverbial book, I had resorted to rather unconventional methods to fine where bets to place the mic’s. Let me illustrate things for you.
The stage was slate, which is wonderful for acoustic resonance. So as Bob would be playing, I’d be roaming around on the stage in circles of ever-decreasing diameters, looking for the highest clarity in the pedal notes. Eventually, once I’d narrowed down the area a little, I’d start getting lower, and lower, until eventually, I was on hands and knees, still going in little circles, with my ear about a foot off the stage floor, listening for the absolutely most perfect “sweet spot” to put the PZM’s. The pedal division is diatonic - meaning split into two sides of alternating notes - which means I had to repeat the entire humorous process for the other side as well.
In the end, after about five- or six-hours of set-up time, I had managed to pull the instrument back out of the well, and gotten the recordings to sound about 1000% better, so finally, we were ready for launch.
So, this is Dr Bob and Dr Mick, performing together, him playing the accompaniment, I on the solo stops and doing my evil, loud, obnoxious registration thing (that I’m totally known for), for the Vreeland/Manoram arrangement of the Navy Hymn, “Eternal Father”.
This performance was recorded on 03-Oct-99, at Hillcrest Seventh-Day Adventist Church, in Bakersfield California, United States. The pipe organ was built by Wesley Pipe Organ Company, and is approximately 104 ranks, and 87 stops, and almost 6000 pipes.
The recording was created using 4 Crown PZM microphones, 2 super-heterodyne Sennheiser microphones, 2 heterodyne cardioid Sennheiser microphones, and 2 cardioid ElectroVoice microphones, mixed down on a Peavey 16-2 mixer, and recorded onto a hard-drive recorder in stereo, 44.1kHz, 16-bit sampled audio, originally into .wav format, for ADD quality.
Disclaimer: I hate to have to put this on here, but the performance is copyright myself and Dr Robert Vreeland. Please do not distribute, copy, alter, etc, without my permission. Having said all that, feel free to download and use it for your own inspiration.
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Thanx! It was a lot of fun to so, both getting everything set up, and actually being able to perform.
Organ is a very challenging instrument, because even if you're technically proficient, that's only half the proverbial battle; registration is /everything/, and every instrument on the planet is different, even if they've got the same stops, and the same pipes, they're in a different room, which makes them acoustically different.
But in truth: Damn! I just love the sheer horsepower of a pipe organ!
Organ is a very challenging instrument, because even if you're technically proficient, that's only half the proverbial battle; registration is /everything/, and every instrument on the planet is different, even if they've got the same stops, and the same pipes, they're in a different room, which makes them acoustically different.
But in truth: Damn! I just love the sheer horsepower of a pipe organ!
"Our outer nature wastes, but inwardly, from day to day, we are by thee renewed, O Lord, our suffering here is soon endured..."
Nice recording there, ShastaCat the Polymath! I've heard it's very hard to get good recordings of organs, but now I know why.
Yay for having a reasonable stereo hooked to the computer - helps for the lower registers, though I'm sure it would still have been better to have actually been there...
Nice recording there, ShastaCat the Polymath! I've heard it's very hard to get good recordings of organs, but now I know why.
Yay for having a reasonable stereo hooked to the computer - helps for the lower registers, though I'm sure it would still have been better to have actually been there...
If you really want to hear things, use a good set of headphone, and crank it! :) It really does sound a whole lot better.
It was an interesting challenge to record this one, but I think it turned out okay, although a little lower in volume than I would have liked.
Thanx for your comments. I'm glad you liked it, even with the couple of sour notes I did. :)
It was an interesting challenge to record this one, but I think it turned out okay, although a little lower in volume than I would have liked.
Thanx for your comments. I'm glad you liked it, even with the couple of sour notes I did. :)
OMG!! That was so AWESOME!!! :D I knew you said you played instruments, but i didn't know you were /this/ good^^, This was great! Do you have any more?? Can i hear them? You HAVE to upload another one!!
Oh god... I am such a fanboy:p I love your work, i have your entire gallery in my fav folder^^, *Admires*
Oh god... I am such a fanboy:p I love your work, i have your entire gallery in my fav folder^^, *Admires*
Psst. Details:p I think the parts you did were the best parts anyway^^, They really made the anthem shine and made the whole thing SOO much better;)
Ooohhh^^, I hope i get to catch a live performance with you later on^^, That would just make my life worth living^^, You're my favorite musician/composer and photographer you know^^, *Loves*
Ooohhh^^, I hope i get to catch a live performance with you later on^^, That would just make my life worth living^^, You're my favorite musician/composer and photographer you know^^, *Loves*
Hot damn! Big cats, big boats and a pipe organ too! I am... well, wow. :) Another devoted fan. *wagwag*
I have to wince a little at the term "Navy hymn," though. You guys may risk more than most, but we all pray the same when a loved one's overdue on the ocean. I don't think I'll ever be able to sing Oh hear us when we cry to thee... without bursting into tears.
Anyway. Thank you for that, and for your well-rewarded hours of effort. And for the resulting goose-bumps.
I have to wince a little at the term "Navy hymn," though. You guys may risk more than most, but we all pray the same when a loved one's overdue on the ocean. I don't think I'll ever be able to sing Oh hear us when we cry to thee... without bursting into tears.
Anyway. Thank you for that, and for your well-rewarded hours of effort. And for the resulting goose-bumps.
I'm glad your twin made it home safely. Any deployment that you come home from is a good one.
I will be off on my ninth deployment in thirteen years on Naval Service (6 of them active duty, 2 more in reserves, and now 5 more as a silly-vilian) in about a month. So I know all about coming home. :)
Please pass on my salute to your twin; my gesture of respect for those that still serve, and have served.
I will be off on my ninth deployment in thirteen years on Naval Service (6 of them active duty, 2 more in reserves, and now 5 more as a silly-vilian) in about a month. So I know all about coming home. :)
Please pass on my salute to your twin; my gesture of respect for those that still serve, and have served.
(Shasta grins) In truth, I can relate entirely.
My Step-Grandfather, which I claimed as my own for a lot of reasons, was a Merchant Marine in WWII. Quite frankly, I couldn't not be a tenth the sailor he was in a dozen lifetimes. He had three ships shot out from under him, and he kept going right back out to see on the next one they assigned him to. He went from E1 to E7 in those four years. He deserved every ounce of gold in those anchors on his collar.
Now technically, he wasn't Navy. The WWII Merchant Sailors, by Act of Congress later on, were considered Coast Guard, which some folks have said were not “real” sailors. While perhaps they’re not the “blue water” sailors that the Navy is, they are still some fantastically courageous folks that serve in the USCG today. But by virtue, he was old-school Navy, from WWII no less, and he had ocean water in his blood, which I think it probably true of anyone who has been to sea in the service of their country, and fell in love with the seas of the world that they sailed.
So, having been - and perhaps still am, though a civilian again - a Navy man through-and-through, and my Grandad having been the “real” sailor, then this song has always, and indeed /will/ always have very special meaning.
The Hillcrest Church pipe organ is quite the nice instrument. The console and instrument itself are entirely computerized. For the organist, it’s nice, as the console has a lot of “bells and whistles” that make it much easier to play. One of my favorite features was the sequencer, which means, I could punch a button, and it would literally record /everything/ that was being played. Then, press “play”, walk away and sit half-way back in the church, and let the computer play back everything /exactly/ as you played it. It makes audio recording a little easier, as we could focus on playing, rather than anything else, and then, when we were happy with the recording, we’d commit it to ADD audio recording. But, back to my story...
In truth, when listening to this piece, especially having been part of playing it, once the piece has built and built, and probably about 85% of the instrument’s resources have been brought in, at the last chorus, when the 32’ Bombards, 32’ Resultant, and 32’ Subbasse in the Pedal Division come in, I am very often reduced to tears myself. While I am most certainly quite passionate about my music, there are only a very few, organ pieces that will set me to tears; this is one of them. I did an arrangement of this piece, with this same arrangement for the organ, but with a new composition for the piano to go with it. The piece essentially takes the trumpet, and brings it over to the piano, with all kinds of improvisation and gibberish added in. While the piece has been performed twice, it has never been recorded. Maybe that’s good, and I am not quite half the pianist that’s required for the piece. Nonetheless, at the end chorus, when Dr Bob bring in the last of the 32’s, and I am quite literally banging away until my fingers hurt, and am no longer able to see the music through the tears in my eyes.
For those folks that have served in the Navy, they will always know this piece as “The Navy Hymn”. It was composed by four, Navy chaplains, and even the words represent not only the sailor, but the airmen, the soldiers, and the Marines, that have, many times in this country’s wars have all fought side-by-side. So in some ways, it is an “Armed Forces Memorial Hymn”. I have had the privilege, and profound honor, of having been able to perform or sing or conduct this hymn at half a dozen services. The most moving have always been the Memorial Services. Since the loss of my grandfather, I have not been able to perform this piece without tears. I suppose, that is the way it will be from now on.
I am most pleased that you have enjoyed the piece. I am even more please that it moved you to tears. Knowing that, simply means that we, Dr Bob and I, played it /right/.
Anyway, I guess that’s plenty enough verbiage from me tonight. Thank you sincerely for your kind comments.
My Step-Grandfather, which I claimed as my own for a lot of reasons, was a Merchant Marine in WWII. Quite frankly, I couldn't not be a tenth the sailor he was in a dozen lifetimes. He had three ships shot out from under him, and he kept going right back out to see on the next one they assigned him to. He went from E1 to E7 in those four years. He deserved every ounce of gold in those anchors on his collar.
Now technically, he wasn't Navy. The WWII Merchant Sailors, by Act of Congress later on, were considered Coast Guard, which some folks have said were not “real” sailors. While perhaps they’re not the “blue water” sailors that the Navy is, they are still some fantastically courageous folks that serve in the USCG today. But by virtue, he was old-school Navy, from WWII no less, and he had ocean water in his blood, which I think it probably true of anyone who has been to sea in the service of their country, and fell in love with the seas of the world that they sailed.
So, having been - and perhaps still am, though a civilian again - a Navy man through-and-through, and my Grandad having been the “real” sailor, then this song has always, and indeed /will/ always have very special meaning.
The Hillcrest Church pipe organ is quite the nice instrument. The console and instrument itself are entirely computerized. For the organist, it’s nice, as the console has a lot of “bells and whistles” that make it much easier to play. One of my favorite features was the sequencer, which means, I could punch a button, and it would literally record /everything/ that was being played. Then, press “play”, walk away and sit half-way back in the church, and let the computer play back everything /exactly/ as you played it. It makes audio recording a little easier, as we could focus on playing, rather than anything else, and then, when we were happy with the recording, we’d commit it to ADD audio recording. But, back to my story...
In truth, when listening to this piece, especially having been part of playing it, once the piece has built and built, and probably about 85% of the instrument’s resources have been brought in, at the last chorus, when the 32’ Bombards, 32’ Resultant, and 32’ Subbasse in the Pedal Division come in, I am very often reduced to tears myself. While I am most certainly quite passionate about my music, there are only a very few, organ pieces that will set me to tears; this is one of them. I did an arrangement of this piece, with this same arrangement for the organ, but with a new composition for the piano to go with it. The piece essentially takes the trumpet, and brings it over to the piano, with all kinds of improvisation and gibberish added in. While the piece has been performed twice, it has never been recorded. Maybe that’s good, and I am not quite half the pianist that’s required for the piece. Nonetheless, at the end chorus, when Dr Bob bring in the last of the 32’s, and I am quite literally banging away until my fingers hurt, and am no longer able to see the music through the tears in my eyes.
For those folks that have served in the Navy, they will always know this piece as “The Navy Hymn”. It was composed by four, Navy chaplains, and even the words represent not only the sailor, but the airmen, the soldiers, and the Marines, that have, many times in this country’s wars have all fought side-by-side. So in some ways, it is an “Armed Forces Memorial Hymn”. I have had the privilege, and profound honor, of having been able to perform or sing or conduct this hymn at half a dozen services. The most moving have always been the Memorial Services. Since the loss of my grandfather, I have not been able to perform this piece without tears. I suppose, that is the way it will be from now on.
I am most pleased that you have enjoyed the piece. I am even more please that it moved you to tears. Knowing that, simply means that we, Dr Bob and I, played it /right/.
Anyway, I guess that’s plenty enough verbiage from me tonight. Thank you sincerely for your kind comments.
(much belated comment) Hmm. Oddly, I sang - or tried rather - to sing it at my grandad's funeral. He was in WWII, and had 5 ships shot out from under him, and he /still/ went back out on the very next they'd give him. He was an amazing man, and so I tend to think of him every time I hear this piece, and it's usually hard to not shed a tear or two, even when I'm more on the performance side of things.
I hope that you found it moving.
I hope that you found it moving.
(much belated comment) Awesome! I was always told by most of the music folks I worked with, before, during, and after college/university, that I should have been at least a music minor, but I never did. I will always love music; it's one of my most deep-seated passions.
So, thank you much for your appreciation!
So, thank you much for your appreciation!
(snickers) True. I guess after 9.75 degrees, I'm a bit burned out on going back to school.
I /would/ like to finish my Wildlife Bio postgrad tho. That would make it an even 10. Woo-Hoo!
I've been thinking more about that lately. Just a field research project and my dissertation to go. :) I should prolly do that one of these days.
I /would/ like to finish my Wildlife Bio postgrad tho. That would make it an even 10. Woo-Hoo!
I've been thinking more about that lately. Just a field research project and my dissertation to go. :) I should prolly do that one of these days.
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