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Speculative Anatomy - Dragon PAS system
I love my science classes, giving me inspiration to work on speculative dragon anatomy some more. XD
This time, I've explored a little into the pulmonary air sac system and how it might be helpful for draconic wing anatomy and respiration. Here is some more detail in terms of 'explaining' the decision to use the PAS system in this way for a dragon wing plan (this can be read in the comments, but this is to save viewers' time):
I have mostly been using pterosaur aerodynamics and flight physiology to help find what might work best for a dragon. In the case of the dragons I think of, they are usually about 10-15 feet in length with 30-foot wingspans (15ft for each wing). In a particular scientific article - "Respiratory Evolution Facilitated the Origin of Pterosaur Flight and Aerial Gigantism" by Leon P. A. M. Claessens, Patrick M. O'Connor, David M. Unwin (seen here http://www.plosone.org/article/info.....l.pone.0004497 ), numerous specimens have been studied, and as the animals became bigger, there has been observation of the presence of pneumatic structures in the body. The article states,
"There is a strong correlation between pneumaticity and size. Pneumaticity is generally absent in small pterosaurs, or confined to the vertebral column, but is almost always present in individuals with wingspans in excess of 2.5 metres and seemingly universal in all taxa with wingspans of 5 metres or more (Fig. 4). This suggests that density reduction via the replacement of bone and bone marrow by air-filled pneumatic diverticula likely played a critical role in circumventing limits imposed by allometric increases in body mass, enabling the evolution of large and even giant size in several clades." (Claessens, et. al.)
Subcutaneous air sacs are also seen in larger birds. To further quote the article:
"In birds, pneumaticity of forelimb elements distal to the elbow is restricted to large-bodied forms such as pelicans, vultures and bustards (Table S3). In these birds an extensive subcutaneous diverticular network, originating from the clavicular air sac, is responsible for pneumatization of skeletal elements distant from the main pulmonary system [20]. The occurrence of pneumatic foramina in distal limb elements of ornithocheiroids and azhdarchoids, and of a layer of spongy subdermal tissue in an exceptionally well-preserved fragment of wing membrane of an azhdarchoid pterosaur [16], [42], together suggest that a subcutaneous air sac system was present in at least some pterodactyloids. The primary role of such a system is likely to have been density reduction, as in birds [43], but it may have had other advantages. Differential inflation of subcutaneous air sacs along the wing membrane could have altered the mechanical properties (e.g., relative stiffness) of flight control surfaces in large-bodied pterodactyloids (Fig. 3d). In addition, this system may have assisted with thermoregulation [16], and could have also served as an intra- or interspecific signalling device during display behavior, similar to some living birds [44]. Thus, the presence of a subcutaneous air sac system likely played an important role in the functional and ecomorphological diversification of pterodactyloid pterosaurs." (Claessens, et. al.)
I hope this may have had helped me explain my perspective and my decision to include this theory into my speculative dragon anatomy.
Originally pencil sketches redrawn and colored in Photoshop CS5.
Art © Stephanie Dziezyk/LeccathuFurvicael 2012. Do not redistribute, copy, alter, etc., any portion of this image without permission from me, the artist.
This time, I've explored a little into the pulmonary air sac system and how it might be helpful for draconic wing anatomy and respiration. Here is some more detail in terms of 'explaining' the decision to use the PAS system in this way for a dragon wing plan (this can be read in the comments, but this is to save viewers' time):
I have mostly been using pterosaur aerodynamics and flight physiology to help find what might work best for a dragon. In the case of the dragons I think of, they are usually about 10-15 feet in length with 30-foot wingspans (15ft for each wing). In a particular scientific article - "Respiratory Evolution Facilitated the Origin of Pterosaur Flight and Aerial Gigantism" by Leon P. A. M. Claessens, Patrick M. O'Connor, David M. Unwin (seen here http://www.plosone.org/article/info.....l.pone.0004497 ), numerous specimens have been studied, and as the animals became bigger, there has been observation of the presence of pneumatic structures in the body. The article states,
"There is a strong correlation between pneumaticity and size. Pneumaticity is generally absent in small pterosaurs, or confined to the vertebral column, but is almost always present in individuals with wingspans in excess of 2.5 metres and seemingly universal in all taxa with wingspans of 5 metres or more (Fig. 4). This suggests that density reduction via the replacement of bone and bone marrow by air-filled pneumatic diverticula likely played a critical role in circumventing limits imposed by allometric increases in body mass, enabling the evolution of large and even giant size in several clades." (Claessens, et. al.)
Subcutaneous air sacs are also seen in larger birds. To further quote the article:
"In birds, pneumaticity of forelimb elements distal to the elbow is restricted to large-bodied forms such as pelicans, vultures and bustards (Table S3). In these birds an extensive subcutaneous diverticular network, originating from the clavicular air sac, is responsible for pneumatization of skeletal elements distant from the main pulmonary system [20]. The occurrence of pneumatic foramina in distal limb elements of ornithocheiroids and azhdarchoids, and of a layer of spongy subdermal tissue in an exceptionally well-preserved fragment of wing membrane of an azhdarchoid pterosaur [16], [42], together suggest that a subcutaneous air sac system was present in at least some pterodactyloids. The primary role of such a system is likely to have been density reduction, as in birds [43], but it may have had other advantages. Differential inflation of subcutaneous air sacs along the wing membrane could have altered the mechanical properties (e.g., relative stiffness) of flight control surfaces in large-bodied pterodactyloids (Fig. 3d). In addition, this system may have assisted with thermoregulation [16], and could have also served as an intra- or interspecific signalling device during display behavior, similar to some living birds [44]. Thus, the presence of a subcutaneous air sac system likely played an important role in the functional and ecomorphological diversification of pterodactyloid pterosaurs." (Claessens, et. al.)
I hope this may have had helped me explain my perspective and my decision to include this theory into my speculative dragon anatomy.
Originally pencil sketches redrawn and colored in Photoshop CS5.
Art © Stephanie Dziezyk/LeccathuFurvicael 2012. Do not redistribute, copy, alter, etc., any portion of this image without permission from me, the artist.
Category Artwork (Digital) / Fantasy
Species Western Dragon
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If you're going to build a flying creature that size, you have to lighten the load, of course. The pulmonary air sacs make perfect sense, but I would also suggest lightweight bones and eliminating redundant organs. I visualize flying dragons as being built very much like birds.
Oh, surely! I have already thought of this in context, but this image was only focusing on the air sacs in the wings. Perhaps I could make a diagram of the location of the other air sacs within the rest of the body. Hollow bones and other weight-reducing anatomical features have surely been considered in my designs, for sure! Thank you for your comment!
Who wouldn't love science when art comes along.
It's surprising to see an artist really up for giving possibility to let dragon fly with several methods. The airsacs is being a lot more common than the others since it's easy to portray the ability (I've also seen many artists would go for bird wings instead of common membrane, yet they want it looks exotic so discarded it) . However I do have the wing designs for dragons, yet not with airsacs. Instead, I use the canard wings configurations like sort of military jets. It can provide maximum uplift with almost all the area of the wingspan, and there's only tiny stall and drag when slowing down.
It's surprising to see an artist really up for giving possibility to let dragon fly with several methods. The airsacs is being a lot more common than the others since it's easy to portray the ability (I've also seen many artists would go for bird wings instead of common membrane, yet they want it looks exotic so discarded it) . However I do have the wing designs for dragons, yet not with airsacs. Instead, I use the canard wings configurations like sort of military jets. It can provide maximum uplift with almost all the area of the wingspan, and there's only tiny stall and drag when slowing down.
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I don't think so. You don't need to warp that wing that much to have drastic effects on the aerodynamics, and those air sacs are still flexible (they weren't and aren't pressurized like truck tires to 8 bars or so). With a dragon wing (bat-like fingers keeping the membrane taut) it may even work better since there are more supports, and it is easier to imagine them healing, a single puncturing injury don't rendering the entire dragon flightless (just having adverse effect on one segment of the wing assuming valves evolved to shut off air circulation to the damaged area).
If you want to go creative, just reading LeccathuFurvicael's description here, "... layer of spongy subdermal tissue ...", it is not too hard to imagine a dragon having this feature evolving a design with small air chambers separated with valves, a little heavier, but more resistant to injuries on that term that the wing can maintain it's airfoil well even with punctures present.
Otherwise using entirely feathers, you might run in other problems, such as you might be unable to design sufficiently strong feathers to support a large creature. The largest bird ever flown was probably this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelagornis_sandersi , while the largest flying pterosaur might have been this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatlus . The latter has about 1.7 times the size, assuming similar density, this would translate to about 5 times the weight.
I don't think so. You don't need to warp that wing that much to have drastic effects on the aerodynamics, and those air sacs are still flexible (they weren't and aren't pressurized like truck tires to 8 bars or so). With a dragon wing (bat-like fingers keeping the membrane taut) it may even work better since there are more supports, and it is easier to imagine them healing, a single puncturing injury don't rendering the entire dragon flightless (just having adverse effect on one segment of the wing assuming valves evolved to shut off air circulation to the damaged area).
If you want to go creative, just reading LeccathuFurvicael's description here, "... layer of spongy subdermal tissue ...", it is not too hard to imagine a dragon having this feature evolving a design with small air chambers separated with valves, a little heavier, but more resistant to injuries on that term that the wing can maintain it's airfoil well even with punctures present.
Otherwise using entirely feathers, you might run in other problems, such as you might be unable to design sufficiently strong feathers to support a large creature. The largest bird ever flown was probably this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelagornis_sandersi , while the largest flying pterosaur might have been this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatlus . The latter has about 1.7 times the size, assuming similar density, this would translate to about 5 times the weight.
Finally some science applied to the thing! :)
I recently found an another site, not entirely related, but demonstrates a different theory on how pterosaur wings looked like, seemingly with quite solid foundations: http://www.reptileevolution.com/pte.....saur-wings.htm . I also found the role of the pteroid bone interesting, how it enhances the effect of the (non-inflated) propatagium.
I got interested in these attempting (re)designing large (50 feet wingspan) wyverns. I am curious whether you ever attempted to find some reasonable way to construct a dragon's chest (intermixing the two shoulder anatomies in some intelligible manner somehow placing the musculature necessary for powering the flaps), and whether you thought about what control surfaces they needed, where, and how they would operate (such as anything passing for elevators which I often see missing from dragon designs).
Do you have any notable design by the way which incorporates these air sacs? I mostly only see "conventional looking" dragons in your gallery, maybe one ( http://www.furaffinity.net/view/14864962/ ) referring to the use of those indirectly (also seemingly missing surfaces which could serve as elevators).
I recently found an another site, not entirely related, but demonstrates a different theory on how pterosaur wings looked like, seemingly with quite solid foundations: http://www.reptileevolution.com/pte.....saur-wings.htm . I also found the role of the pteroid bone interesting, how it enhances the effect of the (non-inflated) propatagium.
I got interested in these attempting (re)designing large (50 feet wingspan) wyverns. I am curious whether you ever attempted to find some reasonable way to construct a dragon's chest (intermixing the two shoulder anatomies in some intelligible manner somehow placing the musculature necessary for powering the flaps), and whether you thought about what control surfaces they needed, where, and how they would operate (such as anything passing for elevators which I often see missing from dragon designs).
Do you have any notable design by the way which incorporates these air sacs? I mostly only see "conventional looking" dragons in your gallery, maybe one ( http://www.furaffinity.net/view/14864962/ ) referring to the use of those indirectly (also seemingly missing surfaces which could serve as elevators).
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