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Affinity Ch 1: [WIP title] The Trigger 3/18
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Although I am wondering quite a bit on 'why' they are doing all this, I still have to kind of complain about how the history looks like it's going to brought up in a clean cut 'exposition dump'. Though, that is kind of one of my big pet peeves so it probably bothers me more than others.
The characters defenantly have an interesting design, has a slight air of "One Piece" with the drastically different sizes and body shapes and some of the clothing design. Though, it's been a little while sense I last read One Piece so my memory is a tad bit foggy.
The characters defenantly have an interesting design, has a slight air of "One Piece" with the drastically different sizes and body shapes and some of the clothing design. Though, it's been a little while sense I last read One Piece so my memory is a tad bit foggy.
haha well hey if you want to make a comic for fun like me then be my guest. perhaps you can make something better. im not perfect :( im not even doing this seriously. i do this just for fun and for my watchers or whoever wants to enjoy it. if i ever wanted to sell this them maybe i will but only in the fandom. no where outside of it.
Yah, I understand that completly, and I'm just giving a little story telling critique. Even if it is just for fun I would like to see you get better through out the entirety of this comic (not as in 'you suck, you need to get better', more like 'your really good now, I cant wait to see how you will get better in the future').
And don't worry, even though I do critique and in cases nitpick at people's work, it doesn't mean I don't like it. Heck, If I were to describe the praisworthy things in this comic page and story elements I would max out the character limit in the message box.
Still, even though your not taking it seriously, you should be making this into a learning experience.
And don't worry, even though I do critique and in cases nitpick at people's work, it doesn't mean I don't like it. Heck, If I were to describe the praisworthy things in this comic page and story elements I would max out the character limit in the message box.
Still, even though your not taking it seriously, you should be making this into a learning experience.
On the one hand, you've got people complaining things aren't being explained very well, while on the other, you've got people complaining that things are being too forward and the explanations are too simplistic in how they're presented. Finding the medium in story-telling is extremely hard, and there's never a situation where you can please everyone.
Even more-so, it's near impossible to make a story that is entirely unique in its own regards. Someone will always say "Hey, that character reminds me of such and such character" or "This plot/story reminds me of when this happened in such and such other story/movie/game/anime/etc". Hearing such things can be bothersome to the artist when they put in work in creating the most unique thing they can muster. It all matters on how you present the content, and whether or not it interests people -- In this case, Gill seems to be accomplishing that matter quite well.
No story is perfect, and yes, some delve into the more common or "cliché" styles at times. Sometimes, there's just no better way than to do it in a cliché way, and sometimes it comes down to "Is it more practical just to do it in a cliché way to get the point across, or try to come up with some elaborate explanation and potentially fail at getting anyone to understand the story?". I'd like to think Gill has done a decent job thus far in creating that medium as best she can, and Affinity seems to be something her watchers can enjoy and look forward to the next page to come in the chapter.
I'm not trying to sound insulting, though really, if you have a pet peeve about something, then you either need to find a way to move past it or move on. I know Gill is doing the best she can, so if you think it's not up to par or you think it can be done better, then you can feel free to go create your own story.
Even more-so, it's near impossible to make a story that is entirely unique in its own regards. Someone will always say "Hey, that character reminds me of such and such character" or "This plot/story reminds me of when this happened in such and such other story/movie/game/anime/etc". Hearing such things can be bothersome to the artist when they put in work in creating the most unique thing they can muster. It all matters on how you present the content, and whether or not it interests people -- In this case, Gill seems to be accomplishing that matter quite well.
No story is perfect, and yes, some delve into the more common or "cliché" styles at times. Sometimes, there's just no better way than to do it in a cliché way, and sometimes it comes down to "Is it more practical just to do it in a cliché way to get the point across, or try to come up with some elaborate explanation and potentially fail at getting anyone to understand the story?". I'd like to think Gill has done a decent job thus far in creating that medium as best she can, and Affinity seems to be something her watchers can enjoy and look forward to the next page to come in the chapter.
I'm not trying to sound insulting, though really, if you have a pet peeve about something, then you either need to find a way to move past it or move on. I know Gill is doing the best she can, so if you think it's not up to par or you think it can be done better, then you can feel free to go create your own story.
Completly understandable, and I'm just explaining my own opinions on the matter and everyone has different understandings of the story. Though to my knowledge I personally liked how through the initial start of the story we arn't explained everything and are left with a few questions that we later answer ourselves either through simple hints and clues through dialog or events. The classic "show don't tell" montra, and I can understand that an artist cant follow that rule all the time.
I also know completly well that no single element is truely unique anymore, and I agree that it is in fact the context of how it's all brought together.
The Cliches, well, it only really bothers me when the cliche in question doesn't make sense. Like the "furry racism", I wasn't given any real hint that there should be any reason why furries would be hated and demonized. Maybe have him pass an 'anti furry' poster, like of like a PSA from hell.
Really though, I don't expect Gill to be perfect, I love his art, I enjoy the story, and like I said to Gill before, I may be talking about the things that need to be fixed, but if I were to describe all of the things he did very right, I wouldn't be able to fit it here.
You don't need to defend him, because I'm not attacking. He's one of my favorite artists for years.
Also, if your wondering. Yes, I am creating my own story that I'm currently working the bugs out of so I can get it published. ((Though obviously it has nothing to do with the fetishy works I put up on this site))
I also know completly well that no single element is truely unique anymore, and I agree that it is in fact the context of how it's all brought together.
The Cliches, well, it only really bothers me when the cliche in question doesn't make sense. Like the "furry racism", I wasn't given any real hint that there should be any reason why furries would be hated and demonized. Maybe have him pass an 'anti furry' poster, like of like a PSA from hell.
Really though, I don't expect Gill to be perfect, I love his art, I enjoy the story, and like I said to Gill before, I may be talking about the things that need to be fixed, but if I were to describe all of the things he did very right, I wouldn't be able to fit it here.
You don't need to defend him, because I'm not attacking. He's one of my favorite artists for years.
Also, if your wondering. Yes, I am creating my own story that I'm currently working the bugs out of so I can get it published. ((Though obviously it has nothing to do with the fetishy works I put up on this site))
For the record, Gill is a "Her". Please refer to her in the proper gender terminology. :P
When it comes to things like "Furry Racism", it's and example of one of those things you need some sort of straight-forward explanation to tell the audience what is going on. Since it was something that was developed in the past on the plot's timeline, and is only being acted upon in present time during the comic, it's hard to really give reason to it without giving some form of flashback or explanation through dialog of the characters -- both of which are cliché. I am all too familiar with the "show don't tell" mantra, though showing something that happened in the past really requires a lot of time to go through, and can still end up becoming a "tell" situation regardless. As I said, it's hard finding a medium.
In this case, considering the confusion behind it, it seemed more like an issue that needed to be addressed quickly in the story, rather than keep people guessing throughout the pages. Sometimes it's best just to feed the information than make others look for it -- and yes, this can potentially take away from the suspense of things, but at least it's a simple explanation of what happened in the past and not a "Deus Ex Machina" moment. :P
As for my defense of Gill, I suppose that has a lot to do with my issue of people saying comments along the lines "This reminds me of..." or "It bothers me that you...". The first one can kinda get annoying in constantly comparing works to something else that's been done, rather than trying to let it stand on its own merit. It can make an artist feel as though people think they're stealing ideas from others, or as if their work is sub-par in comparison.
As for the second comment, the comic is being written for an entire audience, not just for an individual, so it can seem rude when someone says "I don't like this" and can make the person that said it appear rather egotistical. I'm not saying that was your intent, nor am I saying you're one of the ones I have in mind that appear egotistical, but there's a difference in presentation between constructive criticism and opinion, the first of which can seem helpful, and the other can just be annoying. Your comment about having a "Pet Peeve" about something was kinda what set me off there, since it didn't really seem... Well, helpful. No offense.
When it comes to things like "Furry Racism", it's and example of one of those things you need some sort of straight-forward explanation to tell the audience what is going on. Since it was something that was developed in the past on the plot's timeline, and is only being acted upon in present time during the comic, it's hard to really give reason to it without giving some form of flashback or explanation through dialog of the characters -- both of which are cliché. I am all too familiar with the "show don't tell" mantra, though showing something that happened in the past really requires a lot of time to go through, and can still end up becoming a "tell" situation regardless. As I said, it's hard finding a medium.
In this case, considering the confusion behind it, it seemed more like an issue that needed to be addressed quickly in the story, rather than keep people guessing throughout the pages. Sometimes it's best just to feed the information than make others look for it -- and yes, this can potentially take away from the suspense of things, but at least it's a simple explanation of what happened in the past and not a "Deus Ex Machina" moment. :P
As for my defense of Gill, I suppose that has a lot to do with my issue of people saying comments along the lines "This reminds me of..." or "It bothers me that you...". The first one can kinda get annoying in constantly comparing works to something else that's been done, rather than trying to let it stand on its own merit. It can make an artist feel as though people think they're stealing ideas from others, or as if their work is sub-par in comparison.
As for the second comment, the comic is being written for an entire audience, not just for an individual, so it can seem rude when someone says "I don't like this" and can make the person that said it appear rather egotistical. I'm not saying that was your intent, nor am I saying you're one of the ones I have in mind that appear egotistical, but there's a difference in presentation between constructive criticism and opinion, the first of which can seem helpful, and the other can just be annoying. Your comment about having a "Pet Peeve" about something was kinda what set me off there, since it didn't really seem... Well, helpful. No offense.
all i know is its cool so far and itll be interesting however its presented.
plus, ya gotta consider how many different directions one could pitch the fursicution angle from. the whole furry racism thing is a bit cliche yes, but how many different ways can you spin a cliche? it like a rap guy that drives and expensive car. all self respecting rap guys (lol contradiction) dirve a epensive car and this is cliche, however, they dont all drive the same expensive car.
at any rate, the charecters are well desinged, the story is quick paced witch is good, and its gill so its already got the seal of approval. keep up the good work!
on a side note, reading this page all i can think is <i smell a conspriacy!>(the previous statment was preforme in a sing song voice)
plus, ya gotta consider how many different directions one could pitch the fursicution angle from. the whole furry racism thing is a bit cliche yes, but how many different ways can you spin a cliche? it like a rap guy that drives and expensive car. all self respecting rap guys (lol contradiction) dirve a epensive car and this is cliche, however, they dont all drive the same expensive car.
at any rate, the charecters are well desinged, the story is quick paced witch is good, and its gill so its already got the seal of approval. keep up the good work!
on a side note, reading this page all i can think is <i smell a conspriacy!>(the previous statment was preforme in a sing song voice)
Well, I try my best to give helpfull criticism, but I can certainly understand that my words can be interpreted as egotistical. It's one of the flaws that I'm doing my very best to fix. And when I say that something is my pet peeve, I meant it as "this could just be something that I don't like and I'm completly wrong about it". I want to make sure that my advice be taken with a grain of salt because I am not the come all end all of story writing.
I try my best to not appear forcefull and to say that "this is just my opinion and you can take my advice for what it's worth," but apparently I've failed in that regard.
I try my best to not appear forcefull and to say that "this is just my opinion and you can take my advice for what it's worth," but apparently I've failed in that regard.
Sorry if I came off a bit harsh on your comment. Really, I wasn't trying to single you out, since others have been guilty of similar (and even worse) things than the comment you made, but I guess I ended up kinda using you as an example. I apologize for doing such.
Really, I just want people in general to be aware of the things they say, so that they don't come off as saying rude/unhelpful comments, even if it wasn't their intent to do so.
Really, I just want people in general to be aware of the things they say, so that they don't come off as saying rude/unhelpful comments, even if it wasn't their intent to do so.
Yeah, seeing the big guy made me think about One Piece too. But I dig seeing larger folks like that. It's always interesting when you see huge people and think they're giant....until you see what the REAL giant looks like XD It also leaves open that there's an unlimited possibility in body sizes too~
I'm sure people wouldn't make a comparison if it.... oh I don't know, actually didn't look like the subject it's being compared to. There's nothing wrong with admitting if you attained inspiration for the design of the characters, or design for the setting based upon something else... because in all honesty it does really look like both of those whether you want to deny it or not. I don't think hiding the comments was at all necessary.
Would it make it better if she asked "please do not post comments about comparing characters/plot to other series?" It's been stated before in her streams and in comments that Gill dislikes the fact the people keep comparing her creations to other people's work. I've explained in previous comments that those comparisons can de-value the work the artist put into creating something original.
Regardless, the fact is that she has expressed that she doesn't want the comparisons one way or the other in the comments of her comic. Please respect the artist's desires or don't leave comments -- it's as simple as that.
Regardless, the fact is that she has expressed that she doesn't want the comparisons one way or the other in the comments of her comic. Please respect the artist's desires or don't leave comments -- it's as simple as that.
You know who this looks alot like?.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................Mr. Gii. AAC member ranking #2. Gate Keeper, Age 49 :D :D
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