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Cam shot of a favourite poster of a
favourite airplane. This was the
direct inspiration for the Betty Heavy
story.
Posted in thanx to
vixyyfox and
sylderon for their superb B-17
images.
Bombers, yes, but still magnificent aircraft.
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By Fred Brown, Mar 5/2012
fwbrown61
Image is presumed copyright to the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum,
but no copyright attribution is marked on the poster.
Reproduced here under Fair Use doctrine.
The story is here: Betty Heavy
There are limits to the Jazz DV173 camera. This shot of one of my favourite
posters proves it.
Still, you work with what you've got. Then image process the bejesus out of it.
To save people from squinting, here's the caption:
"On the night of June 12, 1944, Pilot Officer Andrew Charles
Mynarski of the RCAF 419 Squadron showed selfless heroism as
he attempted to free the trapped rear gunner while their flaming
Lancaster fell out of the sky near Cambrai, France.
"Leaping from the crippled bomber with his clothes and parachute
afire, Mynarski later died from his wounds. He was awarded the
Victoria Cross posthumously. (My note: that's one of the big
ones.)
"In 1977 the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum acquired a
Lancaster bomber and the largest aircraft restoration project in
Canadian history began. Eleven long years and thousands
upon thousands of volunteer hours later, the lovingly restored
Lancaster made her maiden flight-proudly painted in the colours of
the 419-in a salute to Andy Mynarski and his heroism."
The kicker? I saw this Lanc when it came to visit the Fredericton airport in
1990. (Where do y'think I got the poster?)
Attn. Vixyyfox: this could be the plane you saw.
Courtesy of Wiki (God love it), some quick Lancaster facts:
"The Avro Lancaster is a British four-engined Second World War heavy
bomber designed and built by Avro for the Royal Air Force (RAF).
"It first saw active service with RAF Bomber Command in 1942 and, as
the strategic bombing offensive over Europe gathered momentum, it
became the main heavy bomber used by the RAF, the RCAF, and
squadrons from other Commonwealth and European countries serving
within the RAF,overshadowing its close contemporaries the Handley Page
Halifax and Short Stirling.[1]
The "Lanc", as it was affectionately known,[2] thus became the most
famous and most successful of the Second World War night bombers,
delivering 608,612 tons of bombs in 156,000 sorties."
General characteristics:
Crew: 7: pilot, flight engineer, navigator, nose gunner/bombadier,
wireless operator, mid-upper and rear gunners
Length: 69 ft 4 in (21.11 m)
Wingspan: 102 ft 0 in (31.09 m)
Height: 20 ft 6 in (6.25 m)
Wing area: 1,297 sq ft (120.5 m²)
Empty weight: 36,457 lb (16,571 kg)
Loaded weight: 68,000 lb (30,909 kg) [35]
Max. takeoff weight: 72,000 lb (32,727 kg) with 22,000 lb (10,000 kg)
bomb load
Powerplant: 4 × Rolls-Royce Merlin XX liquid-cooled V12 engines,
1,280 hp (954 kW) each
Performance:
Maximum speed: 287 mph (250 knots, 462 km/h)
Cruise speed: 200 mph (174 knots, 322 km/h)
Range: 2,530 mi (2,200 nmi, 4,073 km)
Service ceiling: 19,000 ft (5,792 m)
Rate of climb: 250 ft/min (1.3 m/s)
Armament:
Guns: 8× 0.303 in (7.7 mm) Browning machine guns in nose, dorsal
and tail turrets, with variations[35]
Bombs: Maximum normal bomb load of 14,000 lb (6,300kg) or
22,000 lb (10,000 kg) Grand Slam with modifications to
bomb bay.[35]
To the photography people here, the Jazz DV173 is a 12 Mpixel toy, f3.2 lens,
max shutter speed of 1/1200 sec, 4X digital zoom, and video capable.
This shot was taken handheld with ambient light, 4Kx3K pixel resolution, spot
metering, exposure set to max 2.0EV, and white balance set to cloudy.
The poster is shiny, detail and colour has been lost. Some glare artifacts have
been removed, luminance and green/red bumped up.
The gun barrels on the nose turret have also disappeared. Something that
the Luftwaffe probably wished for on occasion, come to think of it.
favourite airplane. This was the
direct inspiration for the Betty Heavy
story.
Posted in thanx to
vixyyfox and
sylderon for their superb B-17images.
Bombers, yes, but still magnificent aircraft.
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......
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>>>>> Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum Lancaster <<<<<
By Fred Brown, Mar 5/2012
fwbrown61Image is presumed copyright to the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum,
but no copyright attribution is marked on the poster.
Reproduced here under Fair Use doctrine.
The story is here: Betty Heavy
There are limits to the Jazz DV173 camera. This shot of one of my favourite
posters proves it.
Still, you work with what you've got. Then image process the bejesus out of it.
To save people from squinting, here's the caption:
"On the night of June 12, 1944, Pilot Officer Andrew Charles
Mynarski of the RCAF 419 Squadron showed selfless heroism as
he attempted to free the trapped rear gunner while their flaming
Lancaster fell out of the sky near Cambrai, France.
"Leaping from the crippled bomber with his clothes and parachute
afire, Mynarski later died from his wounds. He was awarded the
Victoria Cross posthumously. (My note: that's one of the big
ones.)
"In 1977 the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum acquired a
Lancaster bomber and the largest aircraft restoration project in
Canadian history began. Eleven long years and thousands
upon thousands of volunteer hours later, the lovingly restored
Lancaster made her maiden flight-proudly painted in the colours of
the 419-in a salute to Andy Mynarski and his heroism."
The kicker? I saw this Lanc when it came to visit the Fredericton airport in
1990. (Where do y'think I got the poster?)
Attn. Vixyyfox: this could be the plane you saw.
Courtesy of Wiki (God love it), some quick Lancaster facts:
"The Avro Lancaster is a British four-engined Second World War heavy
bomber designed and built by Avro for the Royal Air Force (RAF).
"It first saw active service with RAF Bomber Command in 1942 and, as
the strategic bombing offensive over Europe gathered momentum, it
became the main heavy bomber used by the RAF, the RCAF, and
squadrons from other Commonwealth and European countries serving
within the RAF,overshadowing its close contemporaries the Handley Page
Halifax and Short Stirling.[1]
The "Lanc", as it was affectionately known,[2] thus became the most
famous and most successful of the Second World War night bombers,
delivering 608,612 tons of bombs in 156,000 sorties."
General characteristics:
Crew: 7: pilot, flight engineer, navigator, nose gunner/bombadier,
wireless operator, mid-upper and rear gunners
Length: 69 ft 4 in (21.11 m)
Wingspan: 102 ft 0 in (31.09 m)
Height: 20 ft 6 in (6.25 m)
Wing area: 1,297 sq ft (120.5 m²)
Empty weight: 36,457 lb (16,571 kg)
Loaded weight: 68,000 lb (30,909 kg) [35]
Max. takeoff weight: 72,000 lb (32,727 kg) with 22,000 lb (10,000 kg)
bomb load
Powerplant: 4 × Rolls-Royce Merlin XX liquid-cooled V12 engines,
1,280 hp (954 kW) each
Performance:
Maximum speed: 287 mph (250 knots, 462 km/h)
Cruise speed: 200 mph (174 knots, 322 km/h)
Range: 2,530 mi (2,200 nmi, 4,073 km)
Service ceiling: 19,000 ft (5,792 m)
Rate of climb: 250 ft/min (1.3 m/s)
Armament:
Guns: 8× 0.303 in (7.7 mm) Browning machine guns in nose, dorsal
and tail turrets, with variations[35]
Bombs: Maximum normal bomb load of 14,000 lb (6,300kg) or
22,000 lb (10,000 kg) Grand Slam with modifications to
bomb bay.[35]
To the photography people here, the Jazz DV173 is a 12 Mpixel toy, f3.2 lens,
max shutter speed of 1/1200 sec, 4X digital zoom, and video capable.
This shot was taken handheld with ambient light, 4Kx3K pixel resolution, spot
metering, exposure set to max 2.0EV, and white balance set to cloudy.
The poster is shiny, detail and colour has been lost. Some glare artifacts have
been removed, luminance and green/red bumped up.
The gun barrels on the nose turret have also disappeared. Something that
the Luftwaffe probably wished for on occasion, come to think of it.
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If they'd let us into the cockpit I know for stone-certain I'd have been lost
(as in, gone arrow-straight into a pilot's career).
By no coincidence, there was a CF-18 parked on the other side of the tarmac.
If I remember right it was Armed Forces Day, and we were on our way home from all the
fun at Base Gagetown. Compare and contrast, eh?
(And drool. :- ) )
FB.
(as in, gone arrow-straight into a pilot's career).
By no coincidence, there was a CF-18 parked on the other side of the tarmac.
If I remember right it was Armed Forces Day, and we were on our way home from all the
fun at Base Gagetown. Compare and contrast, eh?
(And drool. :- ) )
FB.
The specs tell only half the [fappable] story.
What really croggles me is this plane was designed and built in the 30s. All the
tech, the engineering, the science, that went into it was *lightyears* removed
from what we take for granted.
No computers, remember. All the math done with slide rulers. How the hell did
they do it?
To aviation of the day, that bomber was what the Space Shuttle is for us now. No
argument possible. Try, and look silly.
As for the weapons, oh yah, a good .303 machine gun is not to be disrespected. Can
you spell volume of fire? I knew that you could. :- )
FB.
What really croggles me is this plane was designed and built in the 30s. All the
tech, the engineering, the science, that went into it was *lightyears* removed
from what we take for granted.
No computers, remember. All the math done with slide rulers. How the hell did
they do it?
To aviation of the day, that bomber was what the Space Shuttle is for us now. No
argument possible. Try, and look silly.
As for the weapons, oh yah, a good .303 machine gun is not to be disrespected. Can
you spell volume of fire? I knew that you could. :- )
FB.
Very lovely! Shame I've never seen one in person. And what's wrong with bombers? They are some of the coolest-looking planes ever designed (Case in point, Avro Vulcan and Boeing B-47 Stratojet, both bombers that could outfly contemporary fighters in certain circumstances). Which reminds me, I need to get a new tripod and head down to the Octave Chanute Air Museum one of these weekends.
Oh heck, no prob with bombers. Or fighters. Or cargo aircraft (the magnificent Herc). Or
choppers (the lovely Kiowa).
They all *fly*. And I've got an aviation fetish. A submarine and tank fetish too, BTW, and
I think I know the root source for all of it.
These are all machines of power, great power. They're also aesthetically fascinating, which
was not really a consideration to the people who built 'em. The exigencies of technology,
of engineering, of science, of war, is what shaped these things. Not the pursuit of
beauty per se.
And look at what we got: amazing beauty, of a sort that captivates us (if you've got an
aviation fetish, that is). Can a machine made to kill hundreds, perhaps millions, of
people be beautiful? What, somebody poke your eyes out? Just look at it on the
tarmac.
Then watch it fly. Case closed, no appeal.
Small wonder I got a story out of this Lanc poster. How could I fail? :- )
FB.
choppers (the lovely Kiowa).
They all *fly*. And I've got an aviation fetish. A submarine and tank fetish too, BTW, and
I think I know the root source for all of it.
These are all machines of power, great power. They're also aesthetically fascinating, which
was not really a consideration to the people who built 'em. The exigencies of technology,
of engineering, of science, of war, is what shaped these things. Not the pursuit of
beauty per se.
And look at what we got: amazing beauty, of a sort that captivates us (if you've got an
aviation fetish, that is). Can a machine made to kill hundreds, perhaps millions, of
people be beautiful? What, somebody poke your eyes out? Just look at it on the
tarmac.
Then watch it fly. Case closed, no appeal.
Small wonder I got a story out of this Lanc poster. How could I fail? :- )
FB.
Yes, the C-130, how many planes have a design that's 50 years old, still in production, and a variant with a 105mm howitzer in the side. =^.^= Yes, planes are lovely applications of engineering (not that I'd actually go up in one, that's a different story). Reminds me of a favorite quote of mine by Gustave Eiffel, famed structural engineer, that the colossal has it's own beauty in its strength, to which ordinary theories of art do not apply.
But for me, airplanes are a bit ephemeral for my tastes...I don't know, perhaps I'm a bit too old-fashioned, yes. I do like things that are a bit more substantial, steel rather than aluminium, such as can be seen here: http://www.furaffinity.net/full/3683548/ http://www.furaffinity.net/full/5807970/
And as for stories, I currently have one rattling around inside my head involving this big beauty: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.....exas_BB-35.jpg
But for me, airplanes are a bit ephemeral for my tastes...I don't know, perhaps I'm a bit too old-fashioned, yes. I do like things that are a bit more substantial, steel rather than aluminium, such as can be seen here: http://www.furaffinity.net/full/3683548/ http://www.furaffinity.net/full/5807970/
And as for stories, I currently have one rattling around inside my head involving this big beauty: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.....exas_BB-35.jpg
(Tardy reply is tardy, but here)
With ref to the Texas, nooo, you don't want to make that much steel angry. Beauty
picture there. And it is by no means unfamiliar.
From one of our Florida trips, I have clear and fun kid memories of romping around on
the USS North Carolina (BB-55), moored in Wilmington. My Dad the ex-engineer romped
as happily right along with me. Think we wore out the word awesome inside of five minutes.
Seriously, could any SF writer, even stoked to the eyeballs on lab-grade acid, have
invented a machine that can hold a candle to these ships? I'd be surprised if you didn't
have a story or ten in mind (having read a little about Kalmbach).
By no coincidence, all of the space flight SF from the Golden Age derived straight from
people's experiences on board ships like that. It took until the late 60s-early 70s for
newer metaphors for space ships to emerge. But still naval oriented. The older
metaphors are all still very mineable; go to, go to.
As for your two other machines of steel, oh yah, Eiffel had it dead right. We got rocket
science today, the 19th century had all of that. Couldn't have been done earlier.
What we fail to appreciate is what all this brute force engineering did to people, over
the course of that century. It is all so commonplace to us today. It was brand new to
them, testifying by sheer mass and power alone that the human race had crossed
a threshold.
Everything's changed but our thinking, Mr. E once said? It happened waaay earlier
than 1945. Is it only the SF writers who know this? Might be.
Keep it up with the photographs. Food for thought, to those who know a good meal
when they see it.*
FB.
* Although 1000x1000 pixels is probably size enough. Couldn't dnld
Steam, Steel, and Sunshine, but the thumbnail in gallery gave me a good
enough look.
With ref to the Texas, nooo, you don't want to make that much steel angry. Beauty
picture there. And it is by no means unfamiliar.
From one of our Florida trips, I have clear and fun kid memories of romping around on
the USS North Carolina (BB-55), moored in Wilmington. My Dad the ex-engineer romped
as happily right along with me. Think we wore out the word awesome inside of five minutes.
Seriously, could any SF writer, even stoked to the eyeballs on lab-grade acid, have
invented a machine that can hold a candle to these ships? I'd be surprised if you didn't
have a story or ten in mind (having read a little about Kalmbach).
By no coincidence, all of the space flight SF from the Golden Age derived straight from
people's experiences on board ships like that. It took until the late 60s-early 70s for
newer metaphors for space ships to emerge. But still naval oriented. The older
metaphors are all still very mineable; go to, go to.
As for your two other machines of steel, oh yah, Eiffel had it dead right. We got rocket
science today, the 19th century had all of that. Couldn't have been done earlier.
What we fail to appreciate is what all this brute force engineering did to people, over
the course of that century. It is all so commonplace to us today. It was brand new to
them, testifying by sheer mass and power alone that the human race had crossed
a threshold.
Everything's changed but our thinking, Mr. E once said? It happened waaay earlier
than 1945. Is it only the SF writers who know this? Might be.
Keep it up with the photographs. Food for thought, to those who know a good meal
when they see it.*
FB.
* Although 1000x1000 pixels is probably size enough. Couldn't dnld
Steam, Steel, and Sunshine, but the thumbnail in gallery gave me a good
enough look.
Yes, the automatic resize doesn't entirely work sometimes; I shall have to fix that.
It is appropriate that naval metaphors are used in spaceflight. I mean, we still have
foreward and aft, still have hatches and bulkheads rather than doors and walls.
Kalmbach was originally created for a spacefaring story, then ended up back in WWII.
That original story is still under revision, and I hope that you wouldn't mind taking
a look at it when I finally have it done.
In Chicago, we have the German WWII Type IX-C U-boat U-505, just saw that last weekend,
will have to go again and get proper pictures of it. Unfortunately, no surface ships in the area,
darn...
It is appropriate that naval metaphors are used in spaceflight. I mean, we still have
foreward and aft, still have hatches and bulkheads rather than doors and walls.
Kalmbach was originally created for a spacefaring story, then ended up back in WWII.
That original story is still under revision, and I hope that you wouldn't mind taking
a look at it when I finally have it done.
In Chicago, we have the German WWII Type IX-C U-boat U-505, just saw that last weekend,
will have to go again and get proper pictures of it. Unfortunately, no surface ships in the area,
darn...
I can also count a visit to Charleston, where awesome went out the window
again at a WWII-class destroyer (USS Laffey), an aircraft carrier (USS Yorktown), and
a Balao-class submarine (USS Clamagore) all docked and open to inspection and
drooling. Jeeze, kid in a candy store...
But the U-boats: sweet Christ, those terrifying machines. Fill the camera, just
fill it, will you? (and resize just a tad, please :- ) ). I'll probably never get a chance to
see one of those up close, be grateful for whatever you shoot.
Of all the military tech to emerge out of WWII, those subs were far and away
the most deadly, more strategically dangerous than a busload of A-bombs. Had
the war not ended when it did, the next generation of technologically advanced
U-boats might have shrugged off the sub hunters and sunk everything in sight.
All a much closer call than it looked. The German Navy had planned on a
300 sub fleet, but went to war with only a hundred or so. And did appalling
damage. If the fleet had been fully built up to strength, the war would have
been over in 1941. Along with much of the Royal, US, and Canadian Navies.
'Nuff said.
Cautionary lesson floating there in Chicago, kiddies. Put down that
game you're playing on that stupid cellphone and pay attention. :- /
FB.
PS: Yah, any fur SF will get my attention. Be pleased to read.
again at a WWII-class destroyer (USS Laffey), an aircraft carrier (USS Yorktown), and
a Balao-class submarine (USS Clamagore) all docked and open to inspection and
drooling. Jeeze, kid in a candy store...
But the U-boats: sweet Christ, those terrifying machines. Fill the camera, just
fill it, will you? (and resize just a tad, please :- ) ). I'll probably never get a chance to
see one of those up close, be grateful for whatever you shoot.
Of all the military tech to emerge out of WWII, those subs were far and away
the most deadly, more strategically dangerous than a busload of A-bombs. Had
the war not ended when it did, the next generation of technologically advanced
U-boats might have shrugged off the sub hunters and sunk everything in sight.
All a much closer call than it looked. The German Navy had planned on a
300 sub fleet, but went to war with only a hundred or so. And did appalling
damage. If the fleet had been fully built up to strength, the war would have
been over in 1941. Along with much of the Royal, US, and Canadian Navies.
'Nuff said.
Cautionary lesson floating there in Chicago, kiddies. Put down that
game you're playing on that stupid cellphone and pay attention. :- /
FB.
PS: Yah, any fur SF will get my attention. Be pleased to read.
Oh, i will definitely do that, as soon as I get my f2.8/28mm lens back.
I will also get pictures of the other treasures in that museum, such as
the Apollo 8 Command Module, the Spitfire, and one of only two JU-87
Stukas left in the world. Yes, switch to ASA 400 film, use the flash unit...
I need to get AA batteries for it, also.
I have read about the German war plans, about how they were based on
starting hostilities in 1944 or so...when they also would've had one, perhaps
two aircraft carriers and numerous other goodies. If only Hitler had waited,
if only he hadn't attacked Russia...it's scary to think of it. Then again, the
carriers idea wouldn't have worked, because Göring, head of the Luftwaffe,
hated the idea of the Navy taking any of his glory. But it is telling what happened
after the war. Army Chief of Staff, hanged. Göring, sentenced to hang,
killed himself first, the ponce. The two Grössadmiralen, Raeder
(Surface Fleet) and Dönitz (Submarines)? Twelve years in prison.
Hitler himself said it best: "I have a Conservative Army, a Fascist Air Force,
and a Communist Navy."
Also on the list of plans is shooting off an entire roll at the US 1st Infantry
Museum at Cantigny Park. Very fascinating place.
I will also get pictures of the other treasures in that museum, such as
the Apollo 8 Command Module, the Spitfire, and one of only two JU-87
Stukas left in the world. Yes, switch to ASA 400 film, use the flash unit...
I need to get AA batteries for it, also.
I have read about the German war plans, about how they were based on
starting hostilities in 1944 or so...when they also would've had one, perhaps
two aircraft carriers and numerous other goodies. If only Hitler had waited,
if only he hadn't attacked Russia...it's scary to think of it. Then again, the
carriers idea wouldn't have worked, because Göring, head of the Luftwaffe,
hated the idea of the Navy taking any of his glory. But it is telling what happened
after the war. Army Chief of Staff, hanged. Göring, sentenced to hang,
killed himself first, the ponce. The two Grössadmiralen, Raeder
(Surface Fleet) and Dönitz (Submarines)? Twelve years in prison.
Hitler himself said it best: "I have a Conservative Army, a Fascist Air Force,
and a Communist Navy."
Also on the list of plans is shooting off an entire roll at the US 1st Infantry
Museum at Cantigny Park. Very fascinating place.
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