wow...Vex is kinda mean

i over played it a bit, hes great at partys

really now? cool i wanna see that

maybe maybe not.... he ussally gets naked and dances at the drop of a hat

uh...really?

yup he like drinking a lot too..

huh cool

Love it! Have I told you recently how much you've improved in your art!? cause you have!

not that recently but thank you *hugs tightly* but it means a lot kitty i hope you and your lover are ok

we are hun, but OMFG is he busy. he's got the equivalant of Four jobs now. And me? well...i'm stressed, which has me in a freaking art slump.

I've tried making jewelry, drawing, working on commissions...painting..everything...and i cannot seem to create. >,<

But aside from that? we're okies. ^^ how are you?

well U and JT is one of the coolest tigers and snow meows ever so I know you two will get past this one day *hugs tightly*
sorry to hear about you being such a slump hun * hugs* if it takes off some stress you dont need to worry about that art trade we did so long ago I enjoy just drawing you that you dont need to think of it as anything *hugs tightly* i hope you get your muse back soon

great to hear your more or less ok *snuggles* well... my life I cant complain, im being forced to try and get a security job to help keep my mom from loosing her house while at the same time saving up to pay to move to a new state to get my 4 year degree. while still completing my application and protfolio to get into said school. *hugs*

oh hun I think about your trade A lot! which is partly why i'm thrilled when i Do manage to get something done, because I'm getting better. I'm not gonna jilt ya out of our trade, I still have commissions to work on too. And I will honor all of them :D It's just my life is so darn all over the place right now. between work, and moving Again, and stress..i guess it's hard to create under those conditions.

Sounds like you got some stuff happening too! What school are you trying to get into? and security isn't that bad. I used to do that I rather enjoyed it ^^

*hugs* i know things are busy for you. which is why i was saying its ok. i didnt thinkg of it as a jilt or anything i just wanted you to have one less thing to think about. but if it makes you so happy i feel bad to make you stop.

im trying to get into a school called MCAD up in minosoda, its a really cool school and i plan to major in animation ^^

sounds almost like SCAD down here in Savannah ^__^ Most likely the same thing. I hope you'll get in there! ^_^

i definitly hope i do *hugs* then i might end up as cool as JT

lol hun you're as cool as Jt in your own right!

maybe... but i hope to one day give him a piece of art and be amazed at it ^^

I think that day is coming sooner than you think hun ;)

naaa i havent even seen any of JT newesr stuff since its for his work.. i actually wanted to ask him a question a little while ago.. but didnt want to disturb him

I'll relay the question if you'd like hun.

well its just i wanted to ask about charging people for my graphic design work... i tried to charge someone 300 dollars for a logo for a female country rock group. he seemed to have no problem with it..

Depending on your work hun? That sounds like a Very fair price. It does vary from project to project. The way he does it, is the figures out how much he'd get paid by the hour. Which ranges from 18-24 dollars an hour for his level of work. [which I STILL think he's undercharging.]

Figure out how many hours it would take to do the project, add more hours for revisions, because more often then not, there are revisions. Also set a limit on revisions, So for example, say you allow for 3 free revisions, any more after that, you start to charge for them. Then quote them a price Higher than that, to allow for negotiations.

For example, you quoted 300. and they seemed fine with it. Ok that's good, The next time you do a quote, allow yourself some wiggle room...so say you quote 300....but you know that you can go as low as 250. without losing time and profit...and they wanna barter...well there you go.

But once you set in your mind the lowest you're Willing to go, do NOT allow yourself to go lower.

:)

I hope that helps a bit?

it helps ^^ *wags his tail* thx kat ^^

WHOOHOOO! ^_ I helped ^^ It's a good thing I pay attention to what he does ^^

lol sadly i didnt get paid on the job ><

did you do the graphic?

yup, i did the job and said he would call me in if its approved. i guess i should of called but he said since i took so long he sent it away to a third party

ok that's something else then. At this point it would be a VERY good idea to talk to jt. Basicaly your work just got stolen i'm afraid. unless of course this was recent and he hadn't just gotten around to paying you.....still though it dun sound good.

Write jt an email, tell him what you just told me, and then ask how to do a ToS for it, and any advice he can give. I'll explain the situation to him as well. So that this doesn't happen to you again.

mmm? what do you mean? and no he said I never got back to him so he took it to a third party

do you mean he took his bid to a third party, or your work to a third party?

well my mom worked for him for a while, and he said that I never got back to him and went to a third party.. i plan to keep my eye out for the band he plans to make, and see if he used my logo design and if he does i plan to sue him, i have several witnesses and the original art work

:nodnod: definitely keep your eye out. the whole thing sounds VERY fishy to me.

*nods* yeah i didnt turst him at all... i only did it for porfolio work, and i plan to add what i did into it anyway so im doing good. but yeah if your ever in a store and see a CD for a a super hero pro abstinence country rock band who fight the forces of rape and sexiest behavior called "the black daisies" be sure to tell me ^^

they're not irish are they?

oh and tell me what the art looks like. *is googling*

well it should he a skull and cross bone, but instead of bones its a flower that looks like a skull, with its stem going down to make half the jolly rodger

they havent been made yet, he came up with the concept first

Then I shall keep my eyes out for ya ^_^

*hugs* thx kat *pounces and hugs* o and be sure to tell JT i say hi!

Awesome!! :D

thx man *hugs*