Looks nice, fantastic work.

No, they have the same name but are entirely different people.

Me and Steve pretty much talked about it. It went somewhat like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S254LsjL0sI

Did you use any prune juice for the purple shading? ;)

Oh no way, you know about his prune juice??

A little Shirm told me. ;)

I think I remember this one actually. I certainly remember the rendered classroom backgrounds.

Looks fabulous!

Is he still around? I remember him back when I bought the American Journal of Anthropomorphics.

Oh yes he's still around. You just haven't lived unless you've stopped by his table at a con and been subjected to his hard-sell tactics.

I hop I'll manage to do that one day. Thank's for the answer.

Although, as a salesman I prefer another tactic. I love making offers that are just too good to refuse.

I didn't realize Steve had a page here, so I took a peek. You could choke on the dust there. Sadly, the page is typical for him -- opened and abandoned, with just a very few ads for his CDs shoved in place. Hard sell, indeed. He would likely have garnered more potential sales with more image uploads.

It's also interesting to note that, though he appears to have many interested watchers, Steve, in turn, watches nobody and has no favorites picked. Not to pick on him or anything; just observing.

He was dragged kicking and screaming to post here at all. The idea of giving awayany art 'for free' online is intolerable. He doesn't watch anyone because he is never online here-- I think either Doug Winger or Guthrie set up the page and did the initial posts. The concept that he could drum up more business if he had an active online presence seems completely alien to him. All the while he continues to complain that business at cons is terrible. The older fans who know his rep avoid him like the plague, and none of the younger fans have a clue who he is, so they never stop by at all.

Sounds like a charming fellow, I'll have to keep an eye out for him. And by that I mean I will avoid him like the plague.

I've met similar people before. I remember one artist wanting to sell a full colour 10 pages portfolio. His thinking was that he'd rather sell 10 portdolios in extreme high quality (hence the price) than 100 for less. He was quite bewildered when he sold none at all, because people could simply not afford it.

THIS. I learned that the hard way.

Yep, he's alive and well. I know this because I've roomed with him at Anthrocon the past two years and will again this year.

Well done!!

I am applauding your colorwork.

Mmm...looks nice. :3

How come he isn't posting it? Good grief... he's a member... he ought to actually *do* something.

He did post it, or someone living at his house did. I just cropped it.

Hard to say -- Doug could have, or Bob.

Did he pay you or did you just do all that colouring as a favour?

He paid.

I hope you didn't do anything foolish with the money, such as spend it. Getting money out of Steve is a Special Event of some significance, that calls for constructing a shrine for it and conducting regular services.

Ah, but I exaggerrate... It's so easy with Steve.

Everyone seems to have a creepy Steve Martin Story.

Heh. I wasn't able to witness this event personally, but here's a link to something actually seen and heard by Jim Groat.

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/441...../#cid:33108746

Many things Jim says about Steve should be believed about as readily as White House statements just after 9/11. He likes to tell stories, and like any "author" won't let facts stop him from relating a more entertaining story.

Still, an incident such as Jim relates is not at all beyond credibility. I myself recall that one time at an East Coast furry con, Steve just assumed that the people he was with would look after his stuff while he went away and did something else. So the dolly with all his many boxes of pens, pencils, markers, eraser, prints and gawd nose what, sat in the middle of the dealer's room unattended until it became an inconvenience. At that point, Trish Ny -- who was running the con -- had the thing towed away to a locker, just to get it out of the way. Next morning, Steve remembers he left the dolly in the dealer's room and noticed that it hadn't magically appeared in the room where he was crashing. He runs down to the dealer's room only to find that it isn't there either! I had never seen a better imitation of panic. Eventually, Trish turned up and told him that his junk was in the hotel's temp locker and that he should go and get it before it goes out in the trash... Actually, I don't think she said it was in any danger of being put out for the garbage collectors, but, like Jim, I can't resist a colourful invention. But I seem to recall that she did tear a strip off Steve for leaving his stuff in everyone's way and just assuming other people would look after it.

I left a post there, I hope to god i don't get silly stringed. Looks bad if i hit someone older than me or younger. Anyway there horror stories from both sides. One thing i know, Groat has a knife on him, Steve has nothing. I should tell him to keep Pepper spray but if it came to that I think he'd gotten stuck *sad face* Anyway that's my thought on it.

Roz Gibson has MANY Steve Martin stories. Seems the guy burns everyone he deals with.

I certainly don't claim a monopoly on Steve stories-- anyone from the same era who's been to cons or is from the SoCal area fandom has interactions (and stories) of Steve. A lot of the stories I have are what other people have told me of their experiences with him. He's not so much burned people with bad business practices (although I have heard it can take him years to finish commissions.)as made an impression with his mercenary attitude and creepy behavior.

I met Steve at ConFurence East in late 1996. Space Jam opened that weekend, and I remember him telling me that Warner Bros. was pressured to make Lola Bunny's breasts smaller by "those fuckin' feminazis, man". He's such a talented artist, it's a shame he's not a better human being.

So far as I know, that's sort of true. Warner Bros. may have needed little pressure, since they have a positive allergy to political incorrectness of any sort. What's more amusing is that they definitely were pressured by the franchises that held contracts to make Happy meals, stickers, cups, and toys based on Space Jam, who didn't want any sexually ambiguous Lola Bunny associated with their product. And that's why Lola Bunny has boobs.

Steve knew the story because Bob Guthrie was working for the product placement department at Warner Bros. and the brouhaha landed on his desk to sort out.

Good to know. Still, I really wish Steve hadn't used the term "feminazis".

Steve has no taste or judgement. His ear is tin. He can no more distinguish between "overly-correct political activist" and "man-hating feminazi bitch" than he can between the same expressions in Swahili. Of course, this also colours his thinking. People are rarely people to him -- they are living representations of stereotypes.

I used to find this amusing, and would laugh. Steve would hear me laugh and realize he was saying funny things and then ham it up some more. So there was some rudimentary understanding that what he said wasn't altogether kosher. But without constant reminder to listen to himself, he doesn't, and just comes out with whatever rubbish he heard from the gutter press and talk-show hosts like Rush Limbaugh. These people are professionals at captivating the attention of morons, who seethe with repressed resentments of virtually everyone else. Unfortunately, Steve is one of those seethers... Everyone else has what belongs rightfully to Steve... more money, bigger house, snazzier car, more bling, trophy women... The sad part of it is that Steve has long ago lost the ability to enjoy most things -- he only wants the prestige and the sex.

You're a good inker. I understand you did all my inking for me. ::injoke::

Yeah, and you were my sugar daddy!

So that was you. I didn't know Steve had others do color work for him.

Anyway, this was a very cute cover. It should be - Mauvette is a very cute lady.

Doug Winger does all or most of his digital coloring. He'll also have people do the rough drawings and inks too if he can.