They have been crawling on emerged earth at least 50.000.000 years before any vertebrate. They have prepared our coming, they have shaped the entire nature in a way we who are called "superior animals" would have been totally unable to. They would suddenly disappear, most life on Earth would fall with them within a single year, leaving almost only a few panel of primitive plants and probably no complex animals. They have evolved into a diversity of shapes, functions and features unknown to any other creatures, they have adapted to conditions we are unable to live in, they will survive us and be the very last animals when our world will meet its end.
Though, we (in occident) hate them. We fear them. We are disgusted by them. That is not fair. We should love them for what they are. We might be disgusted, have a phobia, there is no reason for us to crush them if they are no threat to us. Respect arthropods for these are living creatures that got the same rights than us to live. That got MUCH rights than us to live, as they constantly build our world when we constantly destroy it.
Take five minutes to consider this. And if you can, take an hour to observe them, to understand their crucial role, be amazed at how such small creatures function, how complex they are, how beautiful you can find them if you really want to know them.
Though, we (in occident) hate them. We fear them. We are disgusted by them. That is not fair. We should love them for what they are. We might be disgusted, have a phobia, there is no reason for us to crush them if they are no threat to us. Respect arthropods for these are living creatures that got the same rights than us to live. That got MUCH rights than us to live, as they constantly build our world when we constantly destroy it.
Take five minutes to consider this. And if you can, take an hour to observe them, to understand their crucial role, be amazed at how such small creatures function, how complex they are, how beautiful you can find them if you really want to know them.
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Well, like I said, you can fear them, for there are many that are dangerous - as wolves, buffalos, tigers can be dangerous too !!
But we should respect them and not try to kill every insect or arachnid we encounter for no reason. I think, like you said yourself, one thing that we fear, is that we don't know them enough, we don't know WHY they can be harmful to us. Well, we should try to understand their logic. Wasps do not sting for no reason, for venum is something rare and precious in nature. But what do we do when we meet a wasp ? We usually try to chase it away from us with hasten movements. For the wasps, this is just a declaration of war, it is a threat to its own life. So it tries to defend itself. That's as simple as it is. Insects bite, sting only because (when it's not for predatory purposes, which is also a logical action) they or their nests are threatened by us, often because we are unaware of them.
When you know that, you already fear them a little less. When a wasp approaches you, take control over yourself, go away calmly, and if it chases you by curiosity, make a screen between you and it by any mean, a sheet, a tree, whatever. Apart if you've got an especially interesting odour, it should leave you sooner or later. And if it's an odour problem (meat, sugar), interest it with a better and stronger odour, or don't be afraid to present it another peace of your meal rather than trying to hide it that you will be able to drag away from you.
Of course, you can always encounter an especially angry wasp for some reasons, that's alas something that can happen. But usually, you can get away with it without any problem. Also be aware that wasps seem aware of your fear, probably because you then perspire complex odor molecules through your sweat that attracts it. So once again, NEVER fear when you encounter a single wasp. You'll avoid awkward movements that will likely end badly.
But we should respect them and not try to kill every insect or arachnid we encounter for no reason. I think, like you said yourself, one thing that we fear, is that we don't know them enough, we don't know WHY they can be harmful to us. Well, we should try to understand their logic. Wasps do not sting for no reason, for venum is something rare and precious in nature. But what do we do when we meet a wasp ? We usually try to chase it away from us with hasten movements. For the wasps, this is just a declaration of war, it is a threat to its own life. So it tries to defend itself. That's as simple as it is. Insects bite, sting only because (when it's not for predatory purposes, which is also a logical action) they or their nests are threatened by us, often because we are unaware of them.
When you know that, you already fear them a little less. When a wasp approaches you, take control over yourself, go away calmly, and if it chases you by curiosity, make a screen between you and it by any mean, a sheet, a tree, whatever. Apart if you've got an especially interesting odour, it should leave you sooner or later. And if it's an odour problem (meat, sugar), interest it with a better and stronger odour, or don't be afraid to present it another peace of your meal rather than trying to hide it that you will be able to drag away from you.
Of course, you can always encounter an especially angry wasp for some reasons, that's alas something that can happen. But usually, you can get away with it without any problem. Also be aware that wasps seem aware of your fear, probably because you then perspire complex odor molecules through your sweat that attracts it. So once again, NEVER fear when you encounter a single wasp. You'll avoid awkward movements that will likely end badly.
You know, I do agree - insects are fascinating and incredible creatures in nature. But that's where I tend to want them to stay - outdoors, underground, in the sky...not in my home. And on another tangent, why are insects so useful, yet so lacking in aesthetics? :)
Great (if buggy!) work :)
Great (if buggy!) work :)
Lacking in aesthetics ? Sorry, I do not see things the same way. For me they are ALL beautifuls, yes, even larvaes of all kinds and parasites. Have you seen them closely, VERY closely ? Their beautiful complex eyes, their amazing colours (many people admire butterflies, may I remind you they are insects too ?), all the spines, antennas, articulated legs... Life is in the eye of the beholder. If you just THINK about them with already a disgusting feeling, you'll never be able to come closer and change your mind. Love brings love, hate brings hate, generally speaking.
BTW, you know you'll never be able to make your home insect, and above all arthropod-free. So 1/ better try to know them more and see that many of them are useful, and 2/ USE them. When I go back to my house in country during weekends, I am very pleased to meet again the handful of spiders that live with me in my bedroom. Because I know that if they are here and they grow, that's because they take care of many other crawling animals I am not even aware of that can be harmful to me or my props.
BTW, you know you'll never be able to make your home insect, and above all arthropod-free. So 1/ better try to know them more and see that many of them are useful, and 2/ USE them. When I go back to my house in country during weekends, I am very pleased to meet again the handful of spiders that live with me in my bedroom. Because I know that if they are here and they grow, that's because they take care of many other crawling animals I am not even aware of that can be harmful to me or my props.
Bad guess. They have been stopped by two factors : 1/ Impossibility to grow larger than a certain size due to the way they evolve (because of their exoskeleton) and breathe, and 2/ They have been immediatly preys for the first tetrapods that appeared, that made them reduce their size. But before that, climate was so warm and constant that they didn't need to evolve drastically - that's what happened with dinosaurs also, they took their time to finally got quite a nice brain, but not as developped as what mammal's brains were after they disappeared, and this in significant less time thanks to rougher conditions.
By the way, you're taking it the wrong way. WE have evolved the way you say because of dramatic climatic and landscape changes. And we already came from a looooong line of mammals... That didn't really evolved much until the dinosaurs disappeared, though they appeared before them !! So you see, we are not that a success also.
By the way, you're taking it the wrong way. WE have evolved the way you say because of dramatic climatic and landscape changes. And we already came from a looooong line of mammals... That didn't really evolved much until the dinosaurs disappeared, though they appeared before them !! So you see, we are not that a success also.
I was only being silly =p
I know it doesn't hold up from a biological standpoint, if only because successful early phases of any lifeform will remain in parallel with their future generations. ie. just because humans now exist it doesn't mean all our ancestor species have ceased to exist so even if a super intelligent fly did evolve tommorow, we'd still have common houseflies and other bugs bothering us.
Personally I don't mind bugs XD - only picked a great big spider out of a brick earlier to avoid it getting forever entombed in the wall I was helping build =p
I know it doesn't hold up from a biological standpoint, if only because successful early phases of any lifeform will remain in parallel with their future generations. ie. just because humans now exist it doesn't mean all our ancestor species have ceased to exist so even if a super intelligent fly did evolve tommorow, we'd still have common houseflies and other bugs bothering us.
Personally I don't mind bugs XD - only picked a great big spider out of a brick earlier to avoid it getting forever entombed in the wall I was helping build =p
I used to be deathly afraid of spiders, up until only pretty recently. Once I allowed myself to admit what amazing little creatures they really are, my fear began to subside. I still don't really want them in my house, but now when I find one (or pretty much any kind of insect) in my house, I try as hard as I can to catch it alive and bring it outside, instead of just killing it. I'd rather not kill anything I don't have to, no matter how small. I've even gotten to the point where I can scoop a spider up in my hands I have to-- something that only a few years ago, I would've thought would be impossible for me to do.
I actually like seeing the odd moth, spider and so on that might stray into my bedroom, even though i get a little creeped out if they get too close. Bees, dragonflies, butterflies, beetles... They're all great in my books. What I hate is when that lone insect just has to buzz around my head and right inside my ears all the damn time. Lately I've even been woken up by the occasional fly on a few mornings... Needless to say, I got out of bed feeling a little annoyed. From my whole room, it just HAD to insistently fly around the 30 square inches around my head until I got out.
If I'm going to leave the bugs in peace, they need to do the same to me first if that's not too much to ask.
PS: The reason why some people are so gung ho about getting rid of the little critters is because they carry quite a rich payload of germs and bacteria which can cause illness and even death in minor cases. Granted, it doesn't give a good excuse to hate them (seeing as they really can't help it sometimes), however when it comes to certain circumstances, it boils down to a choice between you or them.
If I'm going to leave the bugs in peace, they need to do the same to me first if that's not too much to ask.
PS: The reason why some people are so gung ho about getting rid of the little critters is because they carry quite a rich payload of germs and bacteria which can cause illness and even death in minor cases. Granted, it doesn't give a good excuse to hate them (seeing as they really can't help it sometimes), however when it comes to certain circumstances, it boils down to a choice between you or them.
Yes, it's sometimes quite amazing at how they seem to be attracted by certain parts of human anatomy... And that's true that whatever effort you put in trying to ignore it, this sound is usually SO strong ! You can still hear it hours after the thing has gone away. What I do then, is seek it and catch it to free it outside (I know if I don't take a little effort for that all my night will litterally be bugged, so...). I acquired quite good technic at that...
As for the germs, well, that's true... But the possibilities to get them from ANY other animal, even your own pets, are as high (or even more important), even mortal ones ! It's true - and I admitted it already - that if you are gonna be infested by mosquitoes carrying chikungunya for example, there are not 80 different choices..........
As for the germs, well, that's true... But the possibilities to get them from ANY other animal, even your own pets, are as high (or even more important), even mortal ones ! It's true - and I admitted it already - that if you are gonna be infested by mosquitoes carrying chikungunya for example, there are not 80 different choices..........
I have to admit I'm not crazy about all insects and arthropods. That applies to wolf spiders and the brown recluse, which I've come close to being bitten by back when i had to bring in wood for the fireplace and wood stove. And ticks and other parasites aren't exactly my favorites, especially when i reach the end of a hike and find several trying to attach themselves to my legs.
But if you look in my gallery at the photo named 'Crotch Bug' that shows a beautiful click beetle. I didn't know what it was but it was beautiful and I think most people would have outright freaked at having one land on their pant/shorts. I spotted another in flight last month when very few insects were still active.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/673981/
There's also that closeup of a red admiral (butterfly) with such a cute little proboscis.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/763576/
Sphinx moths are damn cute too but I haven't gotten any good shots. Then there are dragonflies! I go to an area in the summer where there are overwhelming numbers of a dozen or so species flying around on a good day, not to mention several times as many nymphs hunting down in the water. I went kayaking in the same area back in late October and they had gone away but spiders were parachuting. I got tired of ejecting tiny spiders from my boat and ended up covered by tiny yellowish spiders and tons of silk, as were all the plants still standing above water. That's the same area in this picture taken at sunset on Halloween without any visible spiders. There was also a northern harrier perched about 80 yards out when the picture was taken but she's not visible.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/891060/
Insects and arthropods and others are fascinating. And some are even beautiful. But then so are many birds like raptors (especially) and kingfishers, especially the gray-headed kingfisher from Africa, and scarlet tanagers and woodpeckers and all sorts of ducks and even crows.
But if you look in my gallery at the photo named 'Crotch Bug' that shows a beautiful click beetle. I didn't know what it was but it was beautiful and I think most people would have outright freaked at having one land on their pant/shorts. I spotted another in flight last month when very few insects were still active.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/673981/
There's also that closeup of a red admiral (butterfly) with such a cute little proboscis.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/763576/
Sphinx moths are damn cute too but I haven't gotten any good shots. Then there are dragonflies! I go to an area in the summer where there are overwhelming numbers of a dozen or so species flying around on a good day, not to mention several times as many nymphs hunting down in the water. I went kayaking in the same area back in late October and they had gone away but spiders were parachuting. I got tired of ejecting tiny spiders from my boat and ended up covered by tiny yellowish spiders and tons of silk, as were all the plants still standing above water. That's the same area in this picture taken at sunset on Halloween without any visible spiders. There was also a northern harrier perched about 80 yards out when the picture was taken but she's not visible.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/891060/
Insects and arthropods and others are fascinating. And some are even beautiful. But then so are many birds like raptors (especially) and kingfishers, especially the gray-headed kingfisher from Africa, and scarlet tanagers and woodpeckers and all sorts of ducks and even crows.
Woow, nice shots you got there !!
I always found amazing that behavior of baby spiders, being able to fly away miles away just by hanging on a silk line hung on by wind... Best way to colonize new frontiers, but how much dangers !
This was a pic about arthropods because they are much despised, but you are right, like you say, even crows are beautiful when you take some time to observe them. And how intelligent...
I always found amazing that behavior of baby spiders, being able to fly away miles away just by hanging on a silk line hung on by wind... Best way to colonize new frontiers, but how much dangers !
This was a pic about arthropods because they are much despised, but you are right, like you say, even crows are beautiful when you take some time to observe them. And how intelligent...
this reminds me of the movie "A Nightmare before Christmas" by Tim Burton, and the villain of the movie, "Mr. OOGYBOOGY", who was made up by thousands of bugs, covered by a canvas body bag. And the hero of the movie, Jack Skeleton destroyed him by having a thread get caught in a maching, opening the bag and having the bugs fall into a pot of hot liquid. Cool movie. The hours it must have taken to animate it.
Bugs are cool! Way cool!
...'Cept when they try to crawl on me. Then I try to get them to climb on the edge of a paper towel instead so I can relocate them outside. I don't like the creepy tickly sensation of a barely-feelable insect or arachnid on me. To sum up: Spiderweb in front of my face = neat thing to see. Spiderweb sticking to my face = ARRRRRRGH!!!
Interestingly, much bigger arthropods such as scorpions, tarantulas, and lobsters, are much easier for me to cope with because touching them doesn't result in that creepy feeling. So they're even cooler. I've heard a lot of people fear them more the bigger they are, though.
I also think swarms forming a shape like that is pretty awesome.
...'Cept when they try to crawl on me. Then I try to get them to climb on the edge of a paper towel instead so I can relocate them outside. I don't like the creepy tickly sensation of a barely-feelable insect or arachnid on me. To sum up: Spiderweb in front of my face = neat thing to see. Spiderweb sticking to my face = ARRRRRRGH!!!
Interestingly, much bigger arthropods such as scorpions, tarantulas, and lobsters, are much easier for me to cope with because touching them doesn't result in that creepy feeling. So they're even cooler. I've heard a lot of people fear them more the bigger they are, though.
I also think swarms forming a shape like that is pretty awesome.
We have a rather large yard around our house and I always enjoyed seeing insects, birds and lizards - to say nothing of the plants (some tiny weeds are fantastically beautiful if you get down and look at them). I don't like yellowjackets - been stung too many times - but most other critters are welcome. When I was young, you'd see horntoads. Now they're long gone B -(- Haven't seen a praying mantis since forever. Whatever happened to them for biological pest control? The skinks - a lizard - are gone from the sidewalks, tho the little green/brown anole lizards seem to be doing well. Once - only once, sadly - there was a huge mass of migrating monarch butterflies passing the night in a tree in the back yard. Earwigs are always aroung. Fire ants come and go. Haven't seen any of the little black ants in a while, but it's been a damper summer than usual and they haven't had to come into the house looking for water...
you have to live that little gem the spiny orb weaver I mean come on it looks like a little gay crab with a good paint job. Or the golden silk spider bright yellow banana shaped back sides and golden silk in the web that makes it shine in the sun its beutiful!..... I live in florida bugs are every where you cant escape so you might as well learn to like them because like them or not they are not going any where!
I do admit to hating crickets on warm summer nights when I am trying to sleep though. LOL thats why I feed them to my skink. And grain moths they suck too every time I buy top raman noodles and dont eat them in time. They seem to explode out of the packs after a month or two in the pantry. Then infest every grain product in the house some how even getting into sealed containers. I like to catch some small orb weavers and let them loose in the house to eat them up for me
*hides under an umbrella*
Insects are undoubtedly countless times more important to the well-being of the earth than us humans... But gosh, they can be pretty icky too, you know? I don't have anything against a random beetle bug or a lonesome spider. I never kill flies or anything. I like them on an individualistic level.
...But when you open a bag of flour and find its insides crawling with a hundred white maggots... Uh, that's where I get shivers down my spine. Perhaps it's some sort of an age old silly instinct that reminds us that this planet does not belong to us, that the insects were here before us and they will most likely inhabit the earth long after we're gone.
Insects are undoubtedly countless times more important to the well-being of the earth than us humans... But gosh, they can be pretty icky too, you know? I don't have anything against a random beetle bug or a lonesome spider. I never kill flies or anything. I like them on an individualistic level.
...But when you open a bag of flour and find its insides crawling with a hundred white maggots... Uh, that's where I get shivers down my spine. Perhaps it's some sort of an age old silly instinct that reminds us that this planet does not belong to us, that the insects were here before us and they will most likely inhabit the earth long after we're gone.
Oooh, of course I know what you mean !! Contrary to what could be understood from my title, I don't ask people to love them all and cherish them and pet them, just to show some respect, no necessary barbaric action against them. This was done in reaction to some journals I saw, where some people posted they killed a spider whenever they see one for example. How... barbaric, yes. Primitive. Idiotic.
les insecte n'ont pas évolué selon les même souches que nous. pourtant, à la toute base, l'ancêtre est bel et bien commun.
Savais-tu qu'à la préhistoire, il existait des libellules de plus de 30cm d'envergure?
Ceci dit, le fait qu'il nous survivront certainement me fait pas plus les aimer que ça. Mais ce sont des être étonnant... comme ton dessin ^^
Savais-tu qu'à la préhistoire, il existait des libellules de plus de 30cm d'envergure?
Ceci dit, le fait qu'il nous survivront certainement me fait pas plus les aimer que ça. Mais ce sont des être étonnant... comme ton dessin ^^
I'm OK with some bugs. Spiders are OK, and so are small flying bugs, as long as they're not flies or mosquitoes. I usually let them live and look elsewhere when I find one in my house or terrace.
Then again, I detest roaches and flies because they carry diseases and, if you're not careful enough, they'll start to multiply endlessly and will make your life miserable. Besides, roaches leave an awful smell behind and aren't very hygienic; finding one in your bathroom is a clear signal that you need to spend more hours cleaning up. The same happens in a kitchen: I'd rather not eat something in a place where I've found a roach, like a restaurant or somesuch.
And I dislike mosquitoes 'cause hearing one flying over you in the midst of the night can be a real torture. I lived in Uruguay for a while and I can tell you, mosquitoes are sadistic there, as they'll fly one centimeter away from your ear time after time after time annoying the hell of you with their high-pitched buzz.
Fortunately, I clean up my place often, so in all the time I've been here, I have to see yet a bug other than the eventual fly that appears when I open the windows.
Then again, I detest roaches and flies because they carry diseases and, if you're not careful enough, they'll start to multiply endlessly and will make your life miserable. Besides, roaches leave an awful smell behind and aren't very hygienic; finding one in your bathroom is a clear signal that you need to spend more hours cleaning up. The same happens in a kitchen: I'd rather not eat something in a place where I've found a roach, like a restaurant or somesuch.
And I dislike mosquitoes 'cause hearing one flying over you in the midst of the night can be a real torture. I lived in Uruguay for a while and I can tell you, mosquitoes are sadistic there, as they'll fly one centimeter away from your ear time after time after time annoying the hell of you with their high-pitched buzz.
Fortunately, I clean up my place often, so in all the time I've been here, I have to see yet a bug other than the eventual fly that appears when I open the windows.
Ah, that phobia about bug carrying diseases... Though it's true they can do that, as I told ChocolateKitsune above, you probably have MORE chances to get a disease from your pet than from them. Insects just cristallize our phobias and thus, are emphasized with terrible and horrible actions, while we just can't see that hanging on the same stick everybody hanged to before in the bus or subway is at least as dangerous for our health.
Right, it's not a solution to let them crawl and grow everywhere in our houses, but there is an overreaction about everything that's insect-related in our "civilized" countries. Still, there is each year more people dying from having his neighbour's flu right in the nose (a hundred to a thousand encounters per day) than the same group of people dying from a disease brought by their ten thousands of encounters with insects. But no, your neighbor's flu is still less dangerous than an insect.
Right, it's not a solution to let them crawl and grow everywhere in our houses, but there is an overreaction about everything that's insect-related in our "civilized" countries. Still, there is each year more people dying from having his neighbour's flu right in the nose (a hundred to a thousand encounters per day) than the same group of people dying from a disease brought by their ten thousands of encounters with insects. But no, your neighbor's flu is still less dangerous than an insect.
I beg to disagree. In our 'civilized' society, we love bugs and need them very dearly, but in their respective places. I mean, we need earthworms to oxygenate our soils, we count on bees to make honey and fertilize our crops, and need all kinds of insects to make our gardens live, just to put a few examples.
When I've lived in houses with a garden, I always liked to watch the insects buzzing around, fascinated by all the disversity of shapes and flight patterns of the flying insects, or the trails ants leave behind. And there's quite a lot of people out there who love insectology, and collect insects and so on. Insects aren't as detested as you may think.
The problem lies when those insects try to invade a terrain we consider ours, like that trail of ants getting in your kitchen or the flies over the trash bin. Now THAT is a problem, or at least it is to me, because, you see, I prefer not having to shake off the ants off my bread before I eat it.
And despite how much I like spiders, I sadly live in a place of the world with poisonous spiders that could kill me instantly if they bite them, so I've got no more choice to use insecticides to keep them not dead, but as far away from me as I can.
And I've got no pet. :)
When I've lived in houses with a garden, I always liked to watch the insects buzzing around, fascinated by all the disversity of shapes and flight patterns of the flying insects, or the trails ants leave behind. And there's quite a lot of people out there who love insectology, and collect insects and so on. Insects aren't as detested as you may think.
The problem lies when those insects try to invade a terrain we consider ours, like that trail of ants getting in your kitchen or the flies over the trash bin. Now THAT is a problem, or at least it is to me, because, you see, I prefer not having to shake off the ants off my bread before I eat it.
And despite how much I like spiders, I sadly live in a place of the world with poisonous spiders that could kill me instantly if they bite them, so I've got no more choice to use insecticides to keep them not dead, but as far away from me as I can.
And I've got no pet. :)
Oh, but I do agree with you here, that's indeed the same thing I was saying with "it's not a solution to let them crawl and grow everywhere in our houses" !! My purpose is not to let them grow everywhere - we should never forget that if you don't take your place, somebody or something else will take it by force, over your dead body - but to grow respect for them. And I only half agree with you for your first sentence : w do love butterflies but it will be FAR more difficult to find people who love cockroaches. They are both insects, though. Butterflies are essential to polinize plants, cockroaches are essential to recycle organic wastes. I don't see the difference between the two, personnally. I've been able to observe many cockroaches here and there, even "petting" some, and personnally I find them a little more interesting than butterflies.
Oh my... what a fantastic piece of art again, my bro, both thoughtprovoking and very nicely drawn. O.o It reminds me of the creature "Ygramul" from "The neverending story", a being that consists of many billions single insects. BTW, I myself like bugs, if they don't bother me.. ^_~
I find bugs facinating myself... I have a horrible phobia of spiders, but that doesn't mean I hate them. If I find one in the house, I'll put it in a clear jar, watch it for awhile, and let it go outside (even though I know it'll just end up back in the house lol). Even still at my age, one of my favorite things to do in the summer is pick up rocks and pieces of wood just to see what kinda bugs I can find. I love wasps... they're so pretty! And not once have I ever been stung or bitten for no reason. So I must agree with you; bugs don't get the respect they deserve.
And for the picture... holy crud! All that detail... it must have taken forever...
And for the picture... holy crud! All that detail... it must have taken forever...
Ha ha ha, I didn't know that Moonie !! ^^ ^^ You're quite rare, having been bitten and stung and still curious for those creatures... I love you ! ^^
Yes, that pic took me much subway and bus travels LOL But it's surprisingly simplier and easier to do than expected : as in many of my detailed pics, look closer and you'll discover than apart from a few really detailed spots, all the rest is fill-in-the-blanks... I'm quite a master at cheating since the time !! XD
Yes, that pic took me much subway and bus travels LOL But it's surprisingly simplier and easier to do than expected : as in many of my detailed pics, look closer and you'll discover than apart from a few really detailed spots, all the rest is fill-in-the-blanks... I'm quite a master at cheating since the time !! XD
The fossilized claw of an giant sea scorpion was recently found in Germany, it's size indicating that the eurypterid was over 8 feet long.
I have no problem with insects or arachnids (as long as they aren't inside my home).
If they come inside they are asked to leave and are escorted outside. I fear spiders and stinging insects. I was once bitten by a brown recluse spider decades ago and still have the scar to prove it. I like small critters as my hermit crab Leela and Siamese Fighting Fish Chavo will attest to.
What is the symbol the bugs have formed into?
I have no problem with insects or arachnids (as long as they aren't inside my home).
If they come inside they are asked to leave and are escorted outside. I fear spiders and stinging insects. I was once bitten by a brown recluse spider decades ago and still have the scar to prove it. I like small critters as my hermit crab Leela and Siamese Fighting Fish Chavo will attest to.
What is the symbol the bugs have formed into?
Can you give me more informations about that eurypterid, a link, anything ? I am VERY interested...
A scar from a spider bite ? My, that's quite something... I'd be somehow proud to have such a mark on me, but the only sting I've had from a wasp on the sole of my foot (don't even remember which one) didn't leave anything...
As for the pic, there is no particular symbol, they're just trying to form a sort of failed humanoïd/animal form to try to get a closer attention (and less fear) from the human audience...
A scar from a spider bite ? My, that's quite something... I'd be somehow proud to have such a mark on me, but the only sting I've had from a wasp on the sole of my foot (don't even remember which one) didn't leave anything...
As for the pic, there is no particular symbol, they're just trying to form a sort of failed humanoïd/animal form to try to get a closer attention (and less fear) from the human audience...
LOL That's not really the kind of scar I was thinking about, but yes, I know there are many poisons that can do such things - and even more. And I don't even talk about parasitism, I've seen things difficult to whistand, I tell you. That's the way it is. Never forget nature can be as beautiful as it can be terrible.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/scienc.....iggest.bug.ap/
Intersting to realize that such creatures once ruled the oceans until jawed fishes evolved.
The Brown Recluse spider has acidic venom that causes the flesh to become necrotic and die.
At the time I was in my mid-teens and it made me physically sick, so I don't relish the scar I've carried for more than 30 years.
Intersting to realize that such creatures once ruled the oceans until jawed fishes evolved.
The Brown Recluse spider has acidic venom that causes the flesh to become necrotic and die.
At the time I was in my mid-teens and it made me physically sick, so I don't relish the scar I've carried for more than 30 years.
Thanks Pepe !!
But I'm quite puzzled... Eurypterids bigger than 8ft long discovered only from bits, that's an information I've ran across since twenty years, and here it looks like they are surprised about this...
I feel dumb about what I told you about your scar, I didn't know that spider was one with a particularly terrible venom... that was surely not a particularly happy moment, nor for the following monthes and years. Sorry.
But I'm quite puzzled... Eurypterids bigger than 8ft long discovered only from bits, that's an information I've ran across since twenty years, and here it looks like they are surprised about this...
I feel dumb about what I told you about your scar, I didn't know that spider was one with a particularly terrible venom... that was surely not a particularly happy moment, nor for the following monthes and years. Sorry.
Oh, like I said to Moonbeamcat above, it's a cheating technic : I draw a few bugs very detailed more or less regularly displayed inside the mass, I draw also the outlines very clearly, and all the rest is just filling, filling, filling... Doesn't have to be precise, not even resembling to anything : at one point I even let my hand go on the sheet only driven by the shakes from the subway I was in !! With a few round, oval and tubular shapes here and there, the rendering is almost perfect when you look at it with distance............
I love ants.
In a way ants are the closest socially to humans - they make war, raise cattle (aphids), manage farms (for mold), keep slaves... They really are fasinating little critters.
But if I see them in my house, I concider it an act of war, and my goal is genocide.
When I was a kid I use to bother the yellow-jackets that lived in our garage, and I did a lot of anthill stomping, but generally I'll let a bug live if he's not bothering me.
There's no need to kill anything if you can just leave it alone.
D.O.P.R
In a way ants are the closest socially to humans - they make war, raise cattle (aphids), manage farms (for mold), keep slaves... They really are fasinating little critters.
But if I see them in my house, I concider it an act of war, and my goal is genocide.
When I was a kid I use to bother the yellow-jackets that lived in our garage, and I did a lot of anthill stomping, but generally I'll let a bug live if he's not bothering me.
There's no need to kill anything if you can just leave it alone.
D.O.P.R
"There's no need to kill anything if you can just leave it alone." "But if I see them in my house, I concider it an act of war, and my goal is genocide."
That's quite a contradiction... I personnally always think that if I am aggressed by bugs, it's MY fault. If ants are going into your house, it's because it's not secured enough, and you let some interesting at their range. Well, imagine you find a cake somewhere while you're hungry with a family starving, you're taking them... And an alien kills you, because it's his, and it was his place - but on your scale, you were not able to know that because his way to anounce it is totally impossible for you to understand. Well... What do you think about that ? Did you declare war to that alien you never even saw ? Of course, when you're dead, all this doesn't matter anymore. And ants don't think such complex things. But being the sentient beings, I think it's our duty to think for both.
That's quite a contradiction... I personnally always think that if I am aggressed by bugs, it's MY fault. If ants are going into your house, it's because it's not secured enough, and you let some interesting at their range. Well, imagine you find a cake somewhere while you're hungry with a family starving, you're taking them... And an alien kills you, because it's his, and it was his place - but on your scale, you were not able to know that because his way to anounce it is totally impossible for you to understand. Well... What do you think about that ? Did you declare war to that alien you never even saw ? Of course, when you're dead, all this doesn't matter anymore. And ants don't think such complex things. But being the sentient beings, I think it's our duty to think for both.
I understand insects. I respect insects, and their place in nature. I try not to kill them, unless they are invading my home, or being a complete pest. But if I saw all the bugs in my area gathering together into a hive mind swarm and crawling toward me in a disgusting parody of another form or life, or even into a huge version of their own life... I would have to try to escape them, and feel now compulsion to let them live any longer.
1. Survival is more important than respect. You don't stand out in a blizzard and freeze because you respect winter.
2. If I recall correctly, there are 500,000 insects per human on this planet. Since humans number in the billions, if insects banned together like this, they could probably strip large areas clean of life in minutes. I'd rather try to support life in some other way than have them kill everything, then breed some new, insect based world.
1. Survival is more important than respect. You don't stand out in a blizzard and freeze because you respect winter.
2. If I recall correctly, there are 500,000 insects per human on this planet. Since humans number in the billions, if insects banned together like this, they could probably strip large areas clean of life in minutes. I'd rather try to support life in some other way than have them kill everything, then breed some new, insect based world.
Juste un truc que je pense être approprié (Et piur une fois, la chanson n'est pas trop crade...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEYY-Wl_VMk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEYY-Wl_VMk
this could (and it seems to have already) go into a sort of animal rights topic.
I'll be blunt. I don't hate all the things the creepeth upon the earth. I have no problem with a few spiders living in my house. I used to have three in my room. I actually named them too. Betty was the biggest, she lived in my window. Jessica lived on my ceiling...and in all honesty was quite sexy. (Yes, I find some spiders attractive...no...I do not wish to 'tap' that.) and Gabby lived in the corner closest to my door. Instead of killing these three lovely ladies, I gave them room and board, a place to stay warm in the winter, and i some times even talked to them. They kept the fly population in my room down.
My philosophy is that unless i intend to eat it or its trying to harm me, I refuse to kill it, and will do every thing I can to make it comfortable if its providing a service. All things are here for a purpose. Wasps, hornets, spiders, and flys included. Since I'm living out my life, I see no reason why they cant live out theres. No biological one rooted in fact I mean The whole idea that we're bigger, we're smarter, blah blah blah, thats all just philosophy.
I'll be blunt. I don't hate all the things the creepeth upon the earth. I have no problem with a few spiders living in my house. I used to have three in my room. I actually named them too. Betty was the biggest, she lived in my window. Jessica lived on my ceiling...and in all honesty was quite sexy. (Yes, I find some spiders attractive...no...I do not wish to 'tap' that.) and Gabby lived in the corner closest to my door. Instead of killing these three lovely ladies, I gave them room and board, a place to stay warm in the winter, and i some times even talked to them. They kept the fly population in my room down.
My philosophy is that unless i intend to eat it or its trying to harm me, I refuse to kill it, and will do every thing I can to make it comfortable if its providing a service. All things are here for a purpose. Wasps, hornets, spiders, and flys included. Since I'm living out my life, I see no reason why they cant live out theres. No biological one rooted in fact I mean The whole idea that we're bigger, we're smarter, blah blah blah, thats all just philosophy.
Tiens, encore un dessin qui m'évoque beaucoup de choses...
Dans l'un des derniers albums de la série "L'Epervier Bleu" de Sirius (=> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'.....89pervier_bleu ), publié au milieu des années 1970, il y avait des drôles de personnages qui apparaissaient. Des espèces de barbus à lunettes noires, emmitouflés dans des longs pardessus (sous les Tropiques, c'était pas discret).. En fait, à la fin, on découvrait qu'il s'agissait d'essaims d'insectes intelligents (extra-terrestres) agglutinés autour de squelettes métalliques !
Sinn, heu... Question jeu de rôle, "Vermine" devrait peut-être t'intéresser ! =>
http://www.roliste.com/jeu.jsp?id=2401&ft=1
Dans l'un des derniers albums de la série "L'Epervier Bleu" de Sirius (=> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'.....89pervier_bleu ), publié au milieu des années 1970, il y avait des drôles de personnages qui apparaissaient. Des espèces de barbus à lunettes noires, emmitouflés dans des longs pardessus (sous les Tropiques, c'était pas discret).. En fait, à la fin, on découvrait qu'il s'agissait d'essaims d'insectes intelligents (extra-terrestres) agglutinés autour de squelettes métalliques !
Sinn, heu... Question jeu de rôle, "Vermine" devrait peut-être t'intéresser ! =>
http://www.roliste.com/jeu.jsp?id=2401&ft=1
Je ne connaissais pas du tout cette BD, mais comme tu t'en doutes, ta description me fait également penser à ce génial film qu'est Mimic... Et aux Titans de Yoko Tsuno ! LOL
Bon, quant à "vermine", l'URL que tu me donnes est bloquée par le proxy de mon boulot, tant pis... T_T
Bon, quant à "vermine", l'URL que tu me donnes est bloquée par le proxy de mon boulot, tant pis... T_T
Oh man, this is awesome. I've always loved insects - to the point where I pretty much skipped the 'I want a pony!' phase little girls are supposed to have and just kept looking for them under rocks in the yard. And it's always been so irritating that most people don't go far past butterflies, fireflies and ladybugs in terms of 'acceptable' arthropods... not only are lanternflies far more gorgeous than any butterfly out there, but it's annoying to discriminate against any form of life because they're "not pretty". Our manylegged compadres are far from the only misrepresented creatures out there. D:
If I had upturned a stone to see something like this, I would have squealed with delight and died happy.
If I had upturned a stone to see something like this, I would have squealed with delight and died happy.
This is very noble, but a non-sense IMHO. We are not vegetarians by evolution (nor are we purely carnivorous), and whatever the arguments of the supporters of this, if you don't take adds coming from animals, you will suffer serious deficiencies. Even the Dalaï-Lama, one of the most pacifist and life-caring man on whole Earth, has been forced by his doctors to eat meat. The only thing is that we should kill animals for this purpose only (that's the rule of nature BTW !!), and do it the most "humanly" possible. For ecologic and health reasons, we should also eat more insects than mammals - paradoxically, I think if we were accustomed to eat insects, we would respect them more, our problems with them is that we only see them as harmfuls and disgusting.
"It is the position of the American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada that appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. ... This position paper reviews the current scientific data related to key nutrients for vegetarians, including protein, iron, zinc, calcium, vitamin D, riboflavin, vitamin B-12, vitamin A, n-3 fatty acids, and iodine. A vegetarian, including vegan, diet can meet current recommendations for all of these nutrients. In some cases, use of fortified foods or supplements can be helpful in meeting recommendations for individual nutrients. Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence. Vegetarian diets offer a number of nutritional benefits, including lower levels of saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal protein as well as higher levels of carbohydrates, fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate, and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E and phytochemicals. Vegetarians have been reported to have lower body mass indices than nonvegetarians, as well as lower rates of death from ischemic heart disease; vegetarians also show lower blood cholesterol levels; lower blood pressure; and lower rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and prostate and colon cancer."
Speaking as a guy with a fully operational giant hissing cockroach farm and a rose haired tarantula... I Would just like to say that while it's great to love insects, we should remember that to them we are so insanely huge that we don't register to them until the squashing. We matter no more to a bug than the hurricanes, earthquakes, and tornadoes matter to us, not at all until they arrive. So love them if you wish, just don't expect the feeling to ever be mutual.
Contrary to many, apart in my drawings, I never anthropomorphize creatures' behaviors. I'll never expect an insect to have some recognition indeed, but as a sentient creature myself I feel it's my DUTY to respect them, even without having anything in return apart the pleasure to contemplate them.
Even with far more "evolved" creatures like mammals (cats and dogs for example), I warn myself to interpret their behavior in a human way. This doesn't mean I deny them any intelligence or empathy, I just respect the fact it's not the same as ours, humans.
Now as we are on a furry site were anthropomorphism is the rule, and as I'm always in anger to see how we humans treat those irreplaceable critters (I'd prefer people to ignore them rather than to chase them for no other reason than their disgust), the best way I could deliver my message was THIS way.
Even with far more "evolved" creatures like mammals (cats and dogs for example), I warn myself to interpret their behavior in a human way. This doesn't mean I deny them any intelligence or empathy, I just respect the fact it's not the same as ours, humans.
Now as we are on a furry site were anthropomorphism is the rule, and as I'm always in anger to see how we humans treat those irreplaceable critters (I'd prefer people to ignore them rather than to chase them for no other reason than their disgust), the best way I could deliver my message was THIS way.
I must admit that I'm quite impressed that you responded to me and so promptly. I do see your point as I feed my giant roaches fresh baby spinach. Perhaps the lesson we should take from all of this is that we should realize just how powerful we truly are to the tiny creatures of the world and attempt to be good "gods" as it were?
Something like this indeed ; though I don't like the term of "gods" because such a term soon gives us an excuse to do whatever we want, and "whatever we want" is NEVER good for our Earth and its life. And obviously, we do are very fragile gods, many of those creatures are able to harm us !
Just... like the buddhist say (I feel very close to that philosophy), be concious of what's around you, and be part of this world. For me, those words mean everything.
Just... like the buddhist say (I feel very close to that philosophy), be concious of what's around you, and be part of this world. For me, those words mean everything.
That's all fine and dandy- it's the maddening itch they leave behind with each bite.
Seriously, what's with the itch? There's no point to it. Take my blood; I don't care, I can live without a few milliliters. But why must it itch so goddamn much? One summertime I got over twenty-five mosquito bites on my legs, even with bug spray and long jeans on. I couldn't sleep for days because of the horrible itching. I was scratching so hard I bled and left scars. And don't get me started on their insistent habit of flying into your ears.
They can all go get eaten to extinction for all I care.
Seriously, what's with the itch? There's no point to it. Take my blood; I don't care, I can live without a few milliliters. But why must it itch so goddamn much? One summertime I got over twenty-five mosquito bites on my legs, even with bug spray and long jeans on. I couldn't sleep for days because of the horrible itching. I was scratching so hard I bled and left scars. And don't get me started on their insistent habit of flying into your ears.
They can all go get eaten to extinction for all I care.
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