Thats pretty much the most physically arousing thing I've seen all day.

Glad I could help!

wow,that's the most stuff i've ever seen on one gun O_O

That was the goal here. I managed to make a six and a half pound rifle get a hair over eighteen pounds. It's quite cumbersome and not easy to swing around. Most of it was just for show.

And here I am with a rifle planned that will probably weigh upwards of 25-30 pounds, possibly without optics on it. Something tells me that when I get it built, I'm pretty much going to be the only person willing to/capable of using it.

Also, you need some side rails on that thing.

As we speak I'm actually in the process of replacing the cracked plastic handguards with the screw on 'fail rails' with a solid Midwest Industries extended free-floating forend. I kinda want to get a three-flashlight setup for night shooting, I've seen one at Knob Creek, and it was pretty good for lighting up everything.

But I'd like to see what you have planned, it sounds interesting.

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1590752/ 5'4" long target rifle. I'd call it a sniper rifle but people are already afraid I'm going to go nuts and shoot people and Sniper Rifle just raises all kinds of red flags, plus at that size and weight (solid oak forend) it's going to be a tad heavy for sniping.

Still need to figure out how I want to put a bipod on that, I'm going to need one.

Interesting design. I'd run a couple sling swivel studs into the front, one for a sling and one for a Harris Bipod. Or, you could put a stud in the front of the stock and use one of those types of bipods.

Hmm, those Harris bipods look pretty decent, but they're a tad pricey. Then again, they've got built in recoil springs which might be good for the .300 winchester magnum rounds I'll be sending down the 42" barrel. Depending on the thickness of the oak board I make this out of, I might be able to make a second stock from one set of cuts, which I'd probably then use to make an almost identical gun in either plain old .308, or possibly in something big like .50 Alaskan.

Gun is based off of Clive Winslet's gun, the Gungnir HAG35. http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/...../wa3/clive.jpg My gun is actually going to be named the Gungnir HAG36 in honor of the weapon it's based off of.

Certainly not practical, but definitely interesting!

You may also want to take a look at the .300 Remington Ultra Magnum. It's a non-belted cartridge capable of slightly better accuracy, and the brass will last longer if reloading is a concern.

Interesting. Sounds expensive.

And yes, my longrifle likely will be far from practical, but custom making it will make it fit my length of pull (I'm tall, and I've got long arms for my height), and if I can ever find and enter a long range shooting competition of some sort, if it helps me win (weight and length will keep it very, very stable and make minute adjustments of aim easier), then who cares if it isn't too easy to carry around?

Plus, there's something to be said for having a gun as long as some people are tall (going to make a giant gun case for it to carry it in, which will be even taller, and have the most padded comfy shoulder strap I can find)

It still needs a cigarette lighter.

If I did that, I'd be in violation of the New York anti-smoking laws, I think. Either that or they'd make a new one, just to make sure the terrorists don't have a chance to use cigarette smoke to cause another 9/11.

Just like they decided they had to start checking bags because terrorists commute with kitty backpacks and messenger bags at rush hour, and they're definitely going to find bombs by checking every 5th bag that enters the subway... which they somehow never got around to.

Yes. Not very far off of the whole 500-million ballistic fingerprinting project, which, to date, has resulted in two matches, both of which were wrong.

Similar in the fact that, while it sounds good, it's not very useful, and really only is something to make the politicians look like they're doing something important.

what about a grenade launcher? you got to have one of those!

I'd like to, but a 40mm launcher is classified as a destructive device, a 37mm flare launcher is a destructive device if you posses the means to load it with destructive projectiles. I'd rather not mess around with that, having gunpowders and reloading supplies handy.

I see. why not tape a paper towel tube to it and call it a nade launcher :P

It wouldn't launch anything then. What's the point there. Wait, oh yeah, what's the point in three flashlights? Other than the fact that they're all a little bit different color.

Grenade launcher would interfere with the lights and vertical front grip. Besides with that on you'd need a handcart to maeuver around if NY doesn't ban them as well.

I feel like you could use it to kill a nazi riding a dinosaur. Both the nazi and the dinosaur...

Pretty amazing!

Not quite. This one still fires the .223/5.56, which most people consider the absolute bare minimum for deer hunting.

MOAR

I can do more if you want. How much more?

All of it. Everything.

Also that must weigh a ton

Yes. It does. It comes out to a little over 18 lbs, which is very heavy for a rifle that started at about seven, and makes it pretty much useless for any kind of shooting.

Talk about redundancy and overkill! XD Just needs a cup holder and all is balanced in the universe.

I've been trying to find one, but to no avail. I might put a few more things I picked up this weekend on there later, once I can take pictures again. My main computer went down, which has CS3, and can process the *.RAW files from my camera.

that an airsoft gun and again fecking hell

No, I have on Airsoft toy. The little light and the laser/light is from an Airsoft site, though.

Next time we go shooting at a a good private range I'll bring the Airsoft, though, I'd like to shoot it. Realistic fake guns are banned where I live, so they all have to be made of clear plastic. Pretty stupid, when you can purchase rifles and stuff normally. Or a 1919 like I recently got, which I need to take pictures of once my good computer is fixed.

there banned here in the UK as well but where all members of a team and registered with the UKARA so where safe we can even carry em in the streets ^^

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how
much
did
that
cost?

If I had bought it like that, it would have been cheaper. It's a lower from a Bushmaster target rifle, that set me back about $1200, then a DPMS Carbine upper set me back another $400. Buying a carbine in the first place would have been about $800 or so, but I bought the carbine upper as an after thought, seeing as how I don't always have the range to make the most of the target upper. As for the rest:

C-Products Beta Mag: $275
Carry handle rail: $12
AIM Sport Red-Dot sight: $40
Cantilever mount for Red-Dot: $12
Nikon Omni riflescope: $60 (It goes on my slug gun, but took a vacation over here just for this picture.)
Carbine-Length handguard rail: $9
Railmount light and laser/light: $3 from an airsoft site.
Soft Brass Catcher: $9
Vertical foregrip: $20
Dorsey® LED flashlight: FREE

Now, if you think that's bad, wait 'til you see what I picked up at the gun show last weekend!

wow i thought it would have been more then that


oh god...

I was thinking about getting a rail forend for it, but just got a few rails and some Hi-Standard handguards instead. That would have upped the total cost by at least $300 or so.

Little hint for something I did get, though. It doesn't have a magazine; it has a belt instead.

belt fed 10/22?

It's a bit bigger than a 10/22. I just got a case of Federal .308 to feed it.

omg....
you got a 1919....

YES!

1919A6 with the buttstock, bipod, and carry handle.

where do you live?....

Upstate New York. I hate it here. If I didn't have as many friends, and possibly soon a very good job, I'd head east a few hours to Vermont.

*nods*

Hehe, that is awesome...

I realize they're all real and practical attachments, but with all that stuff on the there, it looks like the kind of souped-up gun you'd see in some crazy FPS game, hehe.

Thanks for the fav. While it would seem like they're all practical attachments, it is a little on the heavy side with all that stuff on there. Right now I have as much as I'll likely ever shoot it with on there, and that's a red dot, vert grip, and maybe a light. I have some 30 rounders for normal shooting use, but tracked down a pre-ban Beta Mag just because they're fairly elusive, with some examples going over $800.

wow
lol can you even lift it? =b

Yeah, unloaded it's still lighter than the 240B I had when I was at E35 in Ft Leonard Wood, training on the right way to blow the heck outta stuff.

ridiculous

That was the goal. I take it I was successful, then?

definitely

You got everything there except for the kitchen sink! XD

Yeah, nobody has a tactical kitchen sink quite yet, so it'll have to wait.

Yes, you're right...

Haha! that's sweet! Good to see a fellow gun lover on this site.

Oh my God, that guy in the video doesn't even know what he's talking about. That AK was a piece of crap. The bolt isn't supposed to be that loose. I would hope yours isn't the same way. Cool, cumbersome as all get-out, but cool.

I know, total idiot in there. He's working on putting more stuff on there now. He did have a video of him and someone else shooting at something at relatively close range, but after the lack of hits he had, I'm not surprised he took it down.

It's no wonder he wasn't hitting anything. That thing's so poorly put together, it'd fall apart if you so much as looked at it funny. I'm surprised it can even shoot at all.

So you basically turned a composite assault rifle into something monstrous and practically unusable. Don't get me wrong, you showed that kid on youtube what's what (and a loose action like that ain't no good for a gun anyhow), and the concept is pretty funny, I gotta ask though, what ever happened to good old fixed sights?

They're back now. Only thing I have on it now is a vertical forgrip and an EoTech. The iron sights cowitness on the lower third of the holographic EO Tech sight, so both remain fully functional. Originally I bought this carbine upper as a way to get iron sights and a lighter upper that I wouldn't feel so bad about abusing on my Bushmaster Varminter rifle, but this is strictly just to show how much I could stuff on here.

Super high quality.

For the most part, yes. A few things on there I picked off an Airsoft site for a few bucks a piece, as I don't plan on putting them on a firearm that I ever plan to use.

Occasionally, airsoft stuff holds up well on a real firearm and is actually cheaper.

Though I wouldn't rely on it too heavily. Additionally, that comment was a bit of an inside joke.

Quick question: My Chink-o Norinco SKS' stock is in not so fantastic shape. The bore looks pretty decent, it's just I don't really like the shape the stock is in. You know of any good synthetic stocks? I don't really need anything too pricey with rails, just curious what you would suggest in the way of synthetic or sporter stocks.

ATI makes a few stocks for the SKS that aren't too bad without breaking the bank. There's a Monte Carlo or Dragnov style for shooting accurately, or a side folder that'd make for a nice pack rifle. Butler Creek makes another nice Monte Carlo stock that'd probably take less fitting to work well. Choate makes a side-folder, and it'd probably fit nice if that's the type of stock you'd want. Choate does make good stocks. And Tapco had an M4-styled tele-stock available. I haven't gotten an SKS yet, so I'm not quite sure on all the ins and outs there.

Thanks, I'll look into a new stock on my birthday. I'm kinda living paycheck to paycheck at the moment, which is a real pain, but I'll see if I can't save a little scratch for my birthday in May, which shouldn't be TOO hard.

Nice AR ;)

Thanks. I really need some way to store my firearms, I figured something like the case you have would be nice, but then I realized that the rifles that were in it were just reflections. Oops. Just out of curiosity, where'd you find a case like that?

Oh you mean that blue-one? Well its an old server-case =)

In Finland there are really strickt rules about the real fire-arms.. that's why I like the airsoft-guns and building them. It's as close as you can get to for example colt-rifles.

Ah, sorry to hear that. I personally think it's a shame that a country would pass a law prohibiting a law-abiding citizen to own a bit of metal and plastic, or wood, too. Proponents of such laws say that they prevent crime, but if a crime's going to happen, it's going to happen. If the criminal doesn't own a firearm, then they'll use a knife, if they don't have a knife, they'll use whatever's heavy and handy. Now the victim here is the law abiding citizen, they no longer have proper means to defend themselves from muggers, home intruders, and other criminals that will be armed.

We can have firearms but getting them for civilians is difficult. The mil and LE caliber guns (9mm, 7,62mm and 5,56mm) are the most difficult to get and semi auto only. Usually people buy .22 or shotguns.

But I don't mind. I can shoot in the army If I want :)

Awesome rifle!

Thanks. And thanks for the fav!

I was just looking at one of these to turn an AR into a beltfed MG34 type rifle, but I'd have to get another lower receiver, as I couldn't stand dedicating this one to one upper.

i bet the bolt on your AR won't blow up like his will thou.

I really doubt it will. I pressure tested it with some hot handloads last time we were out, and it doesn't seem to mind the excessive pressure.

do you have any other AR's with other mods or just that one?

I have a Bushmaster Varminter with a fluted barrel, match trigger, 10x42 Mil-Dot scope, and bipod. Then I have a bunch of other rifles and shotguns that aren't AR-15s.

cool, id say that you wouldnt need a scope that powerful for just a AR, but thats just me. oh, and have you ever thought of getting a Szecsei & Fuchs?

I've seen them before, and interested my mate in 'em, but I doubt I'd ever have one of those. Not in the near future, anyways. Maybe once we're in our dream house with a dedicated room for storing guns and ammunition.

im hopin to get one someday as well. but damn, the good shit is expensive.

Yeah. Maybe somebody'll make one for less. The same way Mossberg is making fairly nice doubles for $500, and the same way that I picked up a new coach gun with interchangeable chokes for $300. I'd like to shoot skeet with it, sometime, just to see the reaction from guys who spent $1500 dollars on fancy doubles and hundreds of dollars on cryogenic treated choke tubes, having their rifle backbored, and buy custom loaded shells. Then I come with a cheap coach gun, the chokes it came from, and a mix of cheapo target loads and stuff I've made myself.

handmade and self-systemed is better than any three grand custom, if you know what your doing. have you ever thought to try gunsmithing? its actually a lot simplier than it sounds.

Yeah, if you look at my 'Franken-guns', I put together the 1911 by hand from an unfinished casting. I didn't have a milling machine, and I wore out a Dremel cutting the rails, but it works great, and is very accurate, and was far cheaper than buying a frame and building a rifle, not to mention legal. I don't have a pistol permit, so buying or owning a pistol frame is strictly forbidden. This one, however, was built to only work with the Mech Tech carbine conversions, so I should be safe.

oh, i see it now, nice.

.......

What?

a little much for battle doncha think? XD but ya just had to prove the other guy wrong about his AK lol

Yep. And this is without any fancy forend rails or anything. If I spent another $150 on a 4-rail forend, just imagine the load of junk I could fit on there. I could even go so far as to get one of those new rail-mount glass breakers.

damn

Reminds me of the gunfight scene in Naked Gun 2 1/2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vvkDE7S5BCc
It starts at 8:00, in case you don't know what I'm talking about

Wow, that's pretty funny. He ought to know enough to put together his AA cannon before getting into a gunfight scene! I haven't seen that movie, but I think I might now.

Bah but its too heavy and cumbersome now! XD

I'm happy with my Aimpoint and soon I'll have Remington's 870LM shorty attatchment where the grenade launcher goes >:D

http://www.autoweapons.com/photos07.....emqdmountc.jpg

But thats for zombie applications only.

I'd like to get one of those, or a Serbu Super Shorty, but here in New York state smoothbores classified as an AOW are regulated as pistols, and I doubt I could get one under a SBS stamp, as the law enforcement around here is pretty anti-gun for the most part. If there's zombies, I have a Benelli-style autoloader for zombies over here, and a .45-70 rifle for zombies over there.

And I'd never try and shoot this mess of a rifle like it is now. The most I have on it at once, for any practical purpose, is the EO Tech, forward grip, and maybe a flashlight.

I had a Eotech 552, it drove me nuts tho. Got a Aimpoint Comp ML2 and fell in love. Although I miss the Eotech's wider viewing angle.. :(

Ah. I went with the 512 since I don't have any night vision. I was thinking about getting an ML2 for my 1911 carbine, though. The EO Techs just seem to be sturdier, though. I put the Omni muzzle loader scope on it that's on this one, and the bullet drop compensator seems to come close.

Is even half of that necessary?

Nope. Mostly just for shits and giggles.

it looks like it even makes coffee
i love the twin drum magazine, first place i saw
those was on the HK G36

No rail mount coffee maker, yet. This is one of the original Beta magazines, which the tower later could be replaced to fit other weapons, such as the MG36 light support weapon.

Out of all the guns around my fave is the HK416
but no matter how much i want one i cant have one
cause guns aint legal where im from. So all i can
be is an enthusiast WAAAAAA!

That's terrible. What are guns but a bit of metal and wood, and your government won't let you have them?

The 416 and 417 are very nice firearms, but very expensive. They're a good solution to a problem that's become insignificant, though, as the later models of the AR type rifles have a few minor changes that allows the direct impingement gas system operate dependably when dirty. But despite all that, I'd still like to get one.

The coolest thing about the 416 and 417 is how they divert the bullets combustion gas to keep the firing mechanisms cool
but all the problems with U.S service rifles can be fixed with relativly simple mods. Eventualy modified AR rifles would cost about the same as a 416 or 417 anyway. If you search HK 416 on youtube theres plenty info about it. ^_^

Yep. As much as I do like the short-stroke piston system that's in my M1A for being as clean as it is, it's also harder to clean. And it does need to be cleaned, but not as often as the AR-15 necessitates. I personally don't see much use for keeping your internals cool, but I suppose it couldn't hurt. The barrel and chamber will still heat up, which is a problem for accuracy, service life, and will cause cook-offs.

As for the information on YouTube, some of it can be very misleading. The FutureWeapons stuff, specifically.

yeah i know thay say a new weapon is about to be adopted by the U.S army and next thing you know its been discontinued

Ummm....damn. XD That is one extremely decked out and customized AR. Great job, crazyness!

Yeah, it's a bit overboard, but it was mostly just seeing what I could stick on there without getting a railed forend, or a flat top upper.

Try an M-60 next or a Dragunov. XD

An M-60 would be very expensive, even in the legal semi-auto trim. And for the Dragunov, I was looking into it(or a Tigr), but with all the parts kits, the different countries building their own versions, and other issues, I've decided against building one for now. But I haven't ruled it out, either.

*nods* How about an F-MAS?

A FAMAS? Too French for my tastes, and I've yet to hear anything good about them, or see one for sale first hand.

Oh, so they aren't very popular?

Some people like them, some don't. I don't particularly care for them.

Ah okay.

think il stick to the colt python my dad gave me when i was in tequila

i assume by the catcher you have the means to re use spent ammo at your hame then.
im a novice gun nut so please fill me in on the proccess
oh and FUCK GUN CONTROL

I do try and reload as much as I can. Unfortunately, the volume at which I'm shooting recently has far exceeded what I'm able to reload with my current setup, so I'm no longer catching and keeping brass. I do, however, reload for my Savage 10FP, the bolt-action rifle, as it shoots far better with handloads than it does even with match ammunition. And the good stuff usually exceeds $30 for a box of 20. I can reload that whole box for less than $5. Same with .45-70, and I'm getting a Lee lead pot so I can cast my own 405 grain .458 bullets from wheel weights.

As far as gun control, I agree with you on 19,998 laws. I believe that any firearm should be reasonable for civilian ownership, including handguns, but that the NICS check is necessary to prevent criminals and the mentally unstable from arming themselves with the same weapons. I also believe that open carry is a great way to prevent crime, and that having a national shall-issue concealed carry permit would do wonders in fighting crime where it starts. If widespread availability of guns causes shootouts, then why have mass shootings only ever happened in places where guns aren't allowed, such as schools, malls, post offices, and Washington D.C.. According to that, they should be happening at gun shows, outdoor shows, Front Sight and Blackwater training (although they do have shootings, but the only victims are paper or steel plates.) shooting ranges, and other places where everyone has guns?

yes my primary issu with anti gun control is not only that its our right to do more than bring kitchen knives along with us in defense of ourselves
but also that it has been connected with video game violence
one argument that is applicable is that less than 1-2 decades ago guns were far more available than now and that violence in the media was not censored as greatly and there was less violence at the time therefore i submit that why are they responsible now? in an age where media violence is controlled and guns are less available why are they now an issue? its not guns OR media violence but in fact the slow decay of the once strong family unit and the morals it set.
there in your face gov. tight asses!!!

There's that, too. Guns also have been given a strongly negative taboo by the media, as well as the government passing more and more laws against various types of firearms, both cause fewer and fewer parents bother to teach their kids about gun safety and proper use of firearms. The gangster culture plaguing the U.S. is also largely at fault, telling kids to go perpetrate random acts of senseless violence with whatever they can get their hands on.

I didn't know that you could fit that many stuff on it!

I could probably do more if I had a rail forend and more stuff. That's all I have, unfortunately, but I'm going to put on a full length free float tube to make it safe for furstuiters.

Interesting.

Wow!! Does that thing feel heavy as hell now??

It's heavier than I'd want a rifle I'm planning to use to be. At just under 20 pounds empty, it was too heavy to be comfortable.

Wow.....thats almost as heavy as a friggin BAR, without all the ammunition too.

What, no underside grenade launcher or shotgun?

Not yet. I'd have to get a short-barreled shotgun, and that'd be too much trouble for me to try it now. I was going to buy a launcher, but the 40mm ones are destructive devices, since they launch explosive grenades, and the 37mm ones are only useful for flares.

Yeah, I was kinda being sarcastic. That thing's ridiculous enough as is. When I saw it, I thought:

"I am Heavy Weapons Guy, and this is my weapon."

Yeah, I wouldn't actually get one. Not much point, and I have shotguns for when I need shotguns. I did this just to put a bunch of junk on a rifle, and didn't have anything else to put on.

im loveing the catch bag for the spent cartridges

Yes, it really is impractical. The thing about having the scopes like that the front one is a red dot(non-magnified, shines a laser onto a parabolic reflector), and the rear is a normal 3-9x scope, so when looking through it seems about normal, but the red dot shows up in addition to the crosshairs. It's really rather pointless. This rifle is entirely compliant with the New York Assault Weapon Ban, so it should be legal pretty much anywhere. So are you in Idaho or Canada?

needs some picatinny rails attached to picatinny rails going to nowhere

I actually did find a site that sold rails in bulk, and I've been trying to figure out how to mount them to rails. And how to mount a shotgun to a rail, and mount a shotgun on the rifle.

That is, by far, one of the most pointless exercises of a gun I've ever seen. I LOVE it!

Two scopes are completely necessary, of course.

You need a Flux Capacitor though, rated around 1.2 jiggawatts.

Well, the front one is a red dot, so you get the crosshairs of the bullet drop compensating 3-9x one in back, and the fast red dot of the front one. I left my flux capacitor in 1832, so I can't really put it on here. But yeah, needs more jiggawatts.

Might not be a bad idea to do. This has been making it's way around 4Chan now, so I suppose it couldn't hurt.

Now call it "Sasha" and run around yelling "CRY SOME MORE!"

Awesome :D

I just might! I do load my own .223 for another rifle, and could just as easily do it for this one, as well. But I might as well not.

I think a more appropriate "Sasha" might be the Marlin 1895 GS lever action with Leupold Scout scope on an XS rail with the XS winged ghost ring sights. I just got done loading a pile of .45-70 loads for that with hand cast lead bullets and my own custom powder load.

Thats alot of mods for a single gun.

Yeah. Unfortunately, i couldn't fit another gun on there at the time, otherwise I might have.

And thanks for the watch. I promise I'll upload something worthwhile, maybe. Gun show coming up soon, and I might do a picture-by-picture of the conversion process of a Saiga.

You're welcome.

man you should design guns to videogames XD
they are just like that!

I might try, but I can't do modeling very well. And most video games suck at accurately depicting weapons.

Holy shit... a bit over kill there, that firearm has to weigh around 15-16 pounds when fully loaded I'm keeping my AR slim, all got on it is what ever makes it a perfect sniper rifle.

Harris Bipod mounted to a quad rail free float tube with a small fore grip that holds a ten round clip ( the OH SHIT mag)
4x12 x 40mm scope with quick detach rings and flip up sights
All I need is a mount for my Surefire flashlight and I'm set

Sounds about like what I actually have on this thing, but on two separate uppers.

On the HBAR, I have a Millet TRS-2 10x50 illuminated reticule scope, 6-9" Harris Bipod, Troy rear sight, and a Midwest gas block front sight.

I have a carbine upper for plinking that has a a foregrip, it's quite fun.

I'm working on what's likely just a lost cause, a light barreled water cooled carbine length upper. No real purpose, since all I have is a semi-auto, but nice as a show piece.

Sooner or later i wanna build a new rifle, .556 is nice but lacks the power for knocking down the game I wanna hunt, and of the other new calibers for AR's, the only one that sounds promising is the 3.5 creedmor round that supposed to have range like a 7.62x51 nato

Might as well just get an AR-10 at that point. It'll fire the 7.62x51 and .308 just fine.

Good point

Obama would be pissed o.o

Probably. I'll bet Biden would be, too. This is fully compliant with the '94 AWB.

My AK-47, on the other hand, is older than the AWB or 922r. It's not remotely compliant with either of them. I should take a picture of that, I don't have one yet.

You forgot the crowbar/grenade launcher!!!

I'll have to add one! Maybe a crowbar grenade launcher. It shoots grenades that explode into crowbars.

lol, that works!

So you put a scope on your scope so you can scope while you scope?

Yep. A BDC 3-9X co-witnessing through a red-dot, so I can see the dot through the magnified scope. It works out surprisingly well, except the rifle is stupidly heavy.

good for you!

if you want a silencers with out brakeing the law take a soda bottle and tape it to the muzzle it dont actuly silence it but it changes the sound so it dont sound like a gun shot

my grandad used to run shine he showed me a lot of stuff

I've seen people do that, but there's a way to do it better.

If you split the neck of the bottle, you can use a hose clamp to hold it on tighter. Then, take a piece of screen, stuff the bottle full of steel wool, and force the screen down the center, in line with where the bore will be. A little squirt of lithium grease on the steel wool will help a little bit. Then put a little electrical tape over the muzzle of the rifle, slide the bottle over it, clamp down, and tape over that to prevent any leaks. Look down the bore and make sure that the screen is lined up so that nothing is obstructing the bullet path. First shot should make a hole, and it's surprisingly quiet compared to a plain bottle. Taping over the outside of the bottle helps just a little bit, too.

But constructing one of those is breaking the law, if you're caught with it. As it stands, any device which makes a firearm quieter(and therefore safer, as well) is an NFA item, and illegal to posses without a tax stamp. But that's only if you're caught.

key word Caught

its the same with buck shot over in maryland its a lot safer then slugs because it dont hold the energy as long. but those guys in the office dont see it that way when thay have their heads up thir ass

out of curiosity what is the large thing beneath the AR-15

That's a Beta C-Mag. It's two drums, and it holds 100 rounds of 5.56 or .223 ammunition. And as far as I've used it, it's been quite reliable, as well.

If you can skin you should have them put this on Smod: Tactical or something
like, filename, Ubber AR-15!

Can't really do any skinning or meshes or anything, either.

Either way it leaks sex-appeal!

Wait 'til you see the new one. It has an Midwest Industries 4-rail forend, flat-top receiver, which I'll need to get a folding rear sight for, Yankee Hill Machine muzzle break, Wilson Combat M4 profile match grade barrel, and an ACE skeleton stock. Should be a pretty awesome piece of shooting machinery.

Indeed, but, if youre going to try fit a load on it, get a cheap silencer, that will just add to the look of it if youre aiming to get as much on as possible!

Unfortunately, suppressors are illegal here in New York. My new carbine does have a muzzle break on it, though.

I can see the muzzle break yeah, but illegal?!, fuck me, i didnt think they'd get that touchy about weaponry.
Why are they illegal?, is it harder for them to spot you if you decide to go homicidal or something?

Unfortunately, mass media and all that portray sound suppressors as being tools of hitmen and murderers, when in reality they were very rarely used in crime, and are more of a safety device, and a way to keep shooting ranges quieter. They're legal in most states, but not this one, and that's only after you pay $200 for a tax stamp, have a background check, and have your local Chief law enforcement officer sign off on your application, then you can buy one.

Oh heck, its neccessary for all the signature and check crap but the reason for them banning there isnt really valid, would you prefer having them legal or dosent it really bother you much?

I'd love to have sound suppressors legal. My ears aren't too great, and having a plug drop out while I'm shooting really doesn't help. And I think that'd be pretty awesome to put a suppressor on my lever-action .45-70 Marlin 1895GS.

Yeah im quite a flinchy person, and i prefer hearing the gun working rather than the round.
Its a satisfying clinky sound when theyre silenced :D

What, no quad rail? :(

I have a nice extended quad rail for the rifle I'm working on right now. Just waiting on a barrel, and then I'll have it all together. The barrel, however, is going to take a little longer with how successful the firearms market is right now.

What maker you planning on going with? Full length? Midlength? Carbine? Gonna go Dissipator on the gas block? I need all the details man :D

Speaking of precision, I seem to have missed your post just a bit. Oops.

Heh, very well. I've already picked up a Delton lower at a gun show, grabbed a DPMS Lower Parts Kit before they dried up, an ACE stock for the full-length buffer tube, and put together a flat top upper, minus barrel, with a folding YHM rear sight. Currently, I have a Wilson Combat M4 profile barrel that's back ordered until February. The rail I have for this is a MI carbine length extended past the front sight. There's a YHM Phantom muzzle brake to solder on here to finish it off, too.

The receiver in this picture's going full time with the precision AR setup I have, the lightweight match trigger never really suited the carbine, and I stuck a Choate target stock and hydraulic recoil buffer on there, hopefully it'll help with accuracy at least a little bit.

Sounds like a sweet setup. Given any thought to optics? I guess you're going with the Midwest rail system?

I love Aimpoints... not so much Eotech's.

I'll have the irons until I can figure that out, but the nice thing about optics is that they can be easily changed out, so long as you have more of 'em. I do have an EO Tech, and I do like it for speed, but I don't have an Aimpoint, just a couple cheap copies. Who knows, I might end up splurging on an ACOG.

I also was thinking about picking up two or three cheap rail-mount flashlights for shooting at night, or I may end up going for a lower end NV scope.

Ok, you can take or leave this advice... its worth what you paid for it. I've got an ACOG on my M4 and went through the Army's SDM course with both iron sights and ACOG. TWo weeks of nothing but shooting all day long out to 600 meters.

My experience has made me dislike the ACOG.

The eye relief is short and you have to be ever conscious of the position of your stock when you assume various shooting positions. Its easy to whack yourself in the eyebrow. Also, the ACOG lacks windage and elevation click adjustment drums. You have to unscrew the caps and use a coin or a shell casing to adjust for windage... this wouldnt be so bad if the ACOG had windage hold-off marks, like an SVD scope. But it doesnt. So basically, you've got to memorize set holdoffs in various wind conditions at various distances.

Also, in my experience the QD mount of the ACOG is not 100% return to zero. In switching from iron sights to ACOG and back we noticed as much as a 2 MOA shift in zero... and this wasnt in any c onsistent direction, so it couldnt be predicted.

Also, the ACOG windage and elevation adjustments had a tendancy of sticking. To assure that any adjustments you made would "settle" and not stack up on you, you had to tap the drums after each adjustment with a plastic block. Some people still had problems.

In up close shooting, the ACOG is noticeably slower then the EOtech or the AImpoint due to the eye relief issue and the narrow field of view. Further, for the before mentioned things, it is not really ideal for mid-long distance shooting either. A Leupold CQ/T variable would be a better choice if you're gonna drop big bucks...

But since we're talking about a carbine here, why not stick to what a carbine is good for? Light, fast shooting at short to mid ranges... For that, an aimpoint or eotech is fine..

I've got a Comp M3 that I adore...and the Aimpoint Micro T-1 is becoming my favorite sight. Either one would cost way less then the ACOG.

Yeah, the ACOG certainly high on my list. But I had thought about the Leupold CQ/T, or maybe a second Millet DMS-1.

I did have an Aimpoint Comp M2 on my wishlist for a while, but ended up never getting it. The Micro does have it's appeal, and I was also considering a Doctor on a tall ARMS mount, similar to this, but without the built in rear sight.

There's also a strange urge to get an occluded eye gun sight for simplicity and reliability.

Certainly wasn't high on my list, I mean. Oops. It's late here, or early.

Why do you want an occluded eye gunsight? The concept doesnt make a lot of sense to me.

The Doctor has a smaller viewing window then the Micro and costs about the same... and also doesnt have the runtime or water resistance of the T-1 or H-1. Check Botach for the best prices on it and the newer Aimpoints.

Really, the Comp m4 is an awesome sight too.

All this is exactly why it's still up in the air. With the industry today, I can have almost whatever I want in an optic, but I just have to figure out exactly what that is.

I always thought OEGs were somewhat odd, but not having to buy batteries is nice, and it's an interesting concept. Saw one at a recent gun show that used a mirror to work like a red dot, but it only clamped onto shotguns, and it was fairly bulky.

Uhm, is it possible to wield such a loaded weapon at all?

Barely. Aiming it becomes difficult. It was about 20 lbs dry, and weighed even more with that drum magazine full.

wait you can also upgrade stock and mag, meaning for mag dual clip with clamp but don't really need that with the drum mag, other than that you could also add sling:P

Unfortunately, living in New York, I can't use a telescoping stock unless I'm willing to pay almost a grand extra for a pre-ban rifle. I've never really been a fan taping mags together, rather I just carry an extra six in pouches, but with the Beta mag will hold 100 rounds reliably without having to reload.

My next rifle that I'm currently working on does have a lightweight ACE tube stock which is about an inch shorter than the A2 stock on here, and will incorporate an extended rail forend, and it's been backordered for a while, don't know if I'll ever get it, but a Wilson Combat M4 profile 16" barrel with an attached Yankee Hill Machine muzzle brake. And it will still comply with the '94 AWB in effect in New York state, but is no longer in effect in the United States.

wow... very nice can't wait to see

[u=http://www.bad-dragon.com/forum/dow.....ere's[/u] a bad picture of what I have so far.

Blah, I mean this.

yeah with that you probably can add quite a bit to it

wtf bad dragon?

Uploaded it there to show someone else on the forum. I spend a little time over there, too.

oh ok

my TippMann X7 has more stuff on it ;P
however.. I feel asthough you would have a slight advantage agents a paintball gun

Yeah, I have a funny feeling that might be so. I'm working on another M4gery, though, that has a rail forend that provides a lot more room to mount junk onto. I should be able to stick everything just shy of the sink on there. Once I can get the barrel, that is.

xD no barrle 'eh?
that mite prove to me a problem,
yes, my x7 is my life,
put all my spare money into it
with, I'd say, all aded up over time,
has put itself around 4k
paint ball is good,
guns, that you can shoot at other people, and not have to worry about beig killed ^,,^

Everything's been backordered due to the election. I've been waiting since about a week or two before the election, but still no barrel. There's other barrels available, but I had wanted to do this rifle right and get a good Wilson Combat barrel.

I've played paintball before, much better than airsoft, and I'd play it again if I knew of anywhere around here to play it.

yes, if your gunna get it something, get it the good stuff
and paintball fealds are evrywhere ;P

Is it good or bad that I recognized almost all the additions to your AR before I even read the comments?

And I'm about to be a bad influence by suggesting a Picatinny Tri-Rail Mount...

*cough* Beta mags rule.

Probably both some good and some bad. But I'm one step ahead of you on the rails, I have here a nearly completed flat top upper with an MI extended carbine length quad rail system, just waiting on the 14.5" barrel so I can finish it. It's paired with a different lower with an ACE tube stock. Right now I have another upper I built using a DPMS Tuber handguard, which entirely covers the barrel, making it much more fursuiter friendly.

And yeah, Beta mags are great. I was lucky to find this pre-ban one for a reasonable price, I've seen pre-ban ones at gun shows on sale for as high as $800. The really nice thing about it is I can use it with my heavy barreled Bushmaster Varminter while shooting prone, and it protrudes hardly more than a 10 round magazine, and I can stay prone longer because I don't have to reload nearly as often.

I bet i could do it with an AK if I had the time, money, and inclination

This was a joke, because someone put too much junk on his AK and said that an AR couldn't do all that. So I did. Then I took it all off. I'd hate to do that to my AKs, since two are milled Polytechs, one's a WASR, and the recoil of a 12 and .308 Saiga would probably shake it all apart.

I looked at your gallery, you have enough ammo and weapons to overthrow a small african nation... I just have a few hunting rifles and a shotgun. this should make your congressmen uneasy.

In all honesty, that's not even the half of it.
About a quarter of my room is knee-high in ammo, while I have cases more in the living room, and some handmade stuff by my reloading press. Now that you mention it, I might just put it all together, take a picture, and write "...AND I VOTE!" underneath. Send it anonymously to anyone I have a vote for.

he should pay better attention when he realizes a single "voter" could kill him for going back on those campaign promises.

True. Especially when you consider that more than one rifle of mine is capable of shooting to 2000 yards.

this is also the reason nobody has tried to invade and hold US soil for a long time. even if china bought US soil totally legitimate business dealings, I doubt they'd be able to keep it.

Does it have stopping power or double tap? It should naturally have deep impact :3
</COD4 Joke>

LOL NICE.

Not a lot of stopping power, but when I can get ahold of the M855 surplus it'll have deep impact, I think.

Thanks, I have an updated version, a newer rifle I just got done building.

Not a lot of stopping power, but when I can get ahold of the M855 surplus it'll have deep impact, I think.

Thanks, I have an updated version, a newer rifle I just got done building.

Honestly, you could probably kill half a Platoon with the amount of acessories on that thing. If not blind them first from the insane amount of Torches.

Two of those lights actually suck, only the one with the glass lens is any good, but it does have a 100 round Beta mag on it, so it'd certainly have some firepower from that, even if it is just 5.56.

how much does it weigh with all that cra.... i mean stuff

I believe it was about 20 pounds with the empty Beta mag on there. Loaded, of course, would be more than that. Really not practical to transport to the range like this, much less try and shoot it.

i think it would only be pussible to two man that :P too many gadjets in the way of the second grip.... thou take the flashlights n laser off, leave a scope and you have a clean dont dake nor leave trace ops gun ^^

That's about what I did with my latest carbine project. I started out with a stripped lower receiver, and built it to be light weight and maneuverable, with an ACE telestock and A4 upper receiver. I used a 14.5" carbine profile barrel with a spikey YHM muzzle brake, a MI quad rail forend, a single, super-bright flashlight, and a green laser. I have a better pistol grip on there, too. For sights, I picked up an Aimpoint Micro T-1, and there's a Yankee Hill flip-up rear. It's quite a potent little carbine.

Unfortunately, I don't have a picture of it in it's current configuration.

dont forget a brass bag :P keep that shit off the ground, we had like three ranges closed because of water table polution

I'm always sure to keep em to reload. I should get a better brass catcher, this one get a little heavy and starts to sag, then it'll jam the rifle up.

just make a plexi glass catch so you can see how mich and so you dont have to deal with fabric n hot shells

Well, they're not hot enough to melt the nylon. There's some people making nice kydex ones, though.

I feel sorry for you, living in New York with all those shit laws.

I feel sorry for me, too. I'd kinda like to move over to New Hampshire, on the opposite side of the spectrum, but I don't know where to go, and I don't know anyone there.

I live in Vermont, Its great here, we have concealed or open carry with no permit process.

Join the Free State Project and move to New Hampshire. You can open carry there. I have the Minnesota to cary a firearm.

http://www.freestateproject.org/

I'd like to move to NH! Me and my roommate were just talking about going there together, since NYS is such a legislative scumhole, and I'd be able to get all the fun stuff that NYS doesn't let me have.

Ya. I want to move to NH someday and be a part of the Free State Project.

That shell sack isn't big enough to catch all the casings. D: Be Careful!

Yeah, it wasn't. After about 15-20 rounds, it'd sag enough to start causing jams. Turns out it was just easier and safer to chase brass than to have to take it off, empty it out, clear a stove pipe, and put it back on.

Yup yup.

how did I manage to miss this??

Heh, well, it was almost two years ago.

my 16" ar-15 has flash hider, bayonet lug, and collapsing stock

but it doesn't have ANY of that other stuff!
but I wouldn't mind the Beta-Mag and the molded grip

Can that brass catcher really catch all that brass?

Nope!

The problem with this one is that it's too soft, and after a handful of rounds, it's bent down and clogs, so the next round out of the rifle won't clear the ejection port and will stovepipe. I stiffened it up with a wire, but at this point it's mostly just for catching .300-221 and 6.5 Grendel cases I've formed by hand.

Holy shit lol

The shit that gets shot sure gets holy for sure.

366 reasons to piss of Dianne Feinstein

Still managed to be '94 AWB and (prior) NYS AWB compliant!