This 'raptor' has a lot of toes.

All the better to claw your face with

I guess I fail to see the issue? His feet are also wider and shorter than what a raptor would have.

Well, that he doesn't even have a 'killer toe', it's just a large and useless dewclaw, that's more likely to be ripped off, than a weapon, unless that's in the lore here... Even though that's all of deinonychosaur's whole thing, having a raised toe, with a usable huge claw, for gripping and grappling with prey.

He shoots motherfucking lightning from his hands. I think his species has evolved past the point of having any serious need for clawing people. Now, kindly take your know-it-all anatomy lessons and go bore someone on the Discovery Channel, because I (the commissioner) am more than satisfied with this piece (cuz yanno, it's FANTASY), and couldn't give a cretaceous fuck what you think.

I would've liked to beleive that you could have a civil conversation.
All I was saying was a fact that even jurassic park got right. Don't yell at me for the whole 'all animals are dogs' meme that plagues FA and numerous other artsites, simply because artists can't seem to fathom any kind of real reference when drawing.

I never said it wasn't good art, it is, but giving dog feet to some lizard man, and making it haw a useless dewclaw and then calling it a velociraptor of all things, doesn't scream quality.

When an artist can't even get THE defining feature of a raptor right, there is a problem.

A problem for who exactly? Are you sitting over a computer right now, perched on the edge of your seat, wringing your presumably effeminate hands and breaking out into a cold sweat because someone *gasp!* changed a raptor claw by a whole digit?!

I know it's not a problem for ME, and certainly not for the artist, since I told him I liked the claw right where it was in order to distinguish my character as a more highly evolved version of standard raptors within the fantasy setting that I created. This does not obligate me to name them anything different, anymore than people who put dog knots on cat characters need to. If you can't handle it mate, I suggest you bail from the internet, cuz you'll soon discover that nobody cares about your need for "correctness" or your own inflated sense of self-importance.

Had this person's character tried to portray a raptor to it's 100% fullest accuracy, I could see where this critique would have weight. However, given the commissioner has clarified this is a personal and evolved creature from what one would interpret a raptor to be (albeit rather rudely so, I'll agree with you there), I think it's safe to say it's irrelevant to this particular subject. If the unorthodox coloring, abilities, and lore weren't clue enough, that is.

You are correct, though in what you say. I think it's good a idea to realize people wish to be creative or different with their creations and this can, at times, result in something that goes against the norm.

You can be creative and different in a lot of ways. And it is fine to have fun with characters using different abilities, designs, etc.
I'm not even talking about body covering or anything else, it's just I was a bit disappointed when I saw that this 'raptor' doesn't have a raptor's defining feature. Again, I'm not saying they have to or had to have it 100% accurate, just really disappointed in dog feet in a 'velociraptor'


You can give huge amount of lore, abilities, colors etc to an animal that at least resembles what it's supposed to be like laser shooting space bottle nosed dolphins , but if you give that dolphin a shark tail, it kind of ceases to be not just a bottle nose dolphin, but a dolphin altogether, for example. Thus it'd be best to give, said dolphin, a new name and make it one's own entire species.

I'm pretty sure it ceased to be a velociraptor when it grew AB MUSCLES AND OPPOSABLE THUMBS. Juuuuust sayin.

Anyway, it's my pic, and if I want him to have five sickle claws and ten eyes, so be it. Don't like it, go commission your own, but quit whining on an artist's page over a pic you neither paid for nor had any stake in producing,

Ceased to be a velociraptor: Still calls it a velociraptor.

You can have a velociraptor-like humanoid being, that still retains all features(aside from a pubic boot) of it's actual animal self (See: Most furries, as well as werewolves)

I don't really need to commission my own dinosaurs, since I can do research and draw my own(non canine) dinosaurs.

I kind of feel embarrassed for you, to exact such an immense amount of rage on some other person, for no actual reason. All I did was point out one little thing, and you flipped out. I'm not going to blame you though, you could be going through something in Real Life, whether it be a person passing, a major injury, being bullied, some disease or something of that sort, that I don't know about, so I'll bow out and let you handle things yourself, with your artist. Whatever it may be, I hope it gets better.

HAHAHAHAH oh you pathetic little troll. You think the "I'm so nice look how I pity you" routine is gonna work on me? Bitch please, I've shat better troll routines than that. At least be original. Or better yet, go back to living under your sad little bridge and drawing your OWN raptors, rather than thrusting your opinion where it is neither wanted or needed, merely ridiculed like the arrogant offal it is.

"The norm"? You're on a furry website. You left normal behind a while ago People do what they want with characters. Not ever anthro snake or shark has two dicks, not every draconic character has wings, half the cat characters on here have knots, etc. If people are going to quibble over details, they need to go extricate themselves from this society before it threatens to overwhelm their rigid ideas of status quo with stuff that's actually (god forbid!) more creative and fun.

I think you attack me unnecessarily and misinterpret what I'm saying. If this helps, I agree with what you say 100%. I was trying to help Spikeheila with my perspective on things and potentially help clarify your point. I guess I didn't fully and I apologize for that.

Apology accepted. I wouldn't be so annoyed with Spikehumper there if he had merely provided a line or two of constructive criticism (which is fine) but when the commissioner comes in and clearly states "I wanted it to look this way", that's a good indication that certain parties need to drop outta the conversation and keep their critiques to themselves.

Spike is right though, that's not a raptor, better find a new species for it. Nice art but the creation is just weird, not the fault of the artist, he did a good job and gave you what you wanted, definitely worth the money, sure. Also: Why do you say the raptor needs the claws to claw her face and then you suddenly say the raptor doesn't need any claws because it can shoot lighting from his hands? lol.

It's called a joke. And no, it's not a "real" velociraptor. Velociraptors did not have magical powers, tattoos, abs, witty one liners, opposable thumbs, tribal hierarchies, or the ability to speak (I presume). It IS, however, based off a velociraptor, just like a werewolf is based off a wolf. And I will call it whatever I damn well please. Who's gonna stop me, the League of Stuffy Scientific Gentleman?

From now on, I'll just call him an "Idontgiveafuckasaurus" so that you and Spikehumper can feel better and sleep at night. Because fod forbid that something that looks almost exactly like a raptor with slightly different feet be called a raptor! It'd be like calling a crocodile an alligator, the world will surely end from such madness! Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes,#dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

God*

He's just tight you gave him mammalian hind paws with talons and switched the claw from the second toe to the first toe.

lolllllll.

I think this is easily the most badass raptor character I've seen on this site so far

'smiles' thank you.

He looks wickedly cool

thanks man

This is absolutely gorgeous and well detailed. My eyes have been thoroughly entertained.

I'm glad you approve. One of these Saturdays you can tell me about it.

For the record, that fish was BADASS.

yeah, good colors.

Wicked!!

I'm sure thats what his prisoners tell him. lol

Gotten very good there; the skin texture looks great and the markings are a nice contrast to the darker colors.

Thanks Yue

Most welcome and also the movement suits the body style and anatomy very nice. Well selected.

Although garish, the colours actually work really well. This has all your hall-marks - when I saw the thumbnail I was delighted because, y'know, BadCoyote art without even looking at who the submitter was

Garish? GARISH! Them's fighting words! Lol, I kid, but seriously, blame the fish. Or SeaWorld. Or both.

Heh, evolution has certainly produced some rather.. uh, exotic colour combinations for various critters of the aquatic kind, that's for certain. Personally I think this it's kinda neat that you've based it on something real, in its own strange way it still works to my eye.

holy crap there's one ghost i haven't talked to in a while. Thanks man, how are things?

Well we're still settling into the new dream house (it's a little foggy this morning so we're up amongst the clouds ). So much work to do outside on the land and bits around the house that I haven't been spending bugger-all time at the computer of late. Once Winter closes in though and the weather turns to crap I'll be around a lot more.

So, yeah, doing well. How is your fantastic self? You've been remarkably quiet on the artistic front yourself of late, hope it's a positive development in your life that is keeping you busy?

DAAAAAAAAAYUM your scalies look awesome!

Because they's got the bling blang in their scales.