Mrmm...

Hm?

How this appears to me is the artist's detail level plateaus while the price continues to jump.

Soo true.

Yeah, I know.

I've found most artists are actually pretty reasonable with their prices.

Also, how exactly were you 'ripped off'?

Let's say the artists simply didn't care about the comissions, doing sloppy work and feeling it's not their fault, calling me an ingrate.

Agreed, seen it happen too much really. It isn't always the case, but it's more common than you'd expect/want.

That's why I did this.

Now we want to see evidence!

Really, man? Do you want me to search pages of people I've unwatched? Please, don't.

I was just curious. I know it's a big problem... I don't even do commissions, as I'm afraid to ask for too much money!

I guess the main problem is not caring about the client's comission here. It's alright, take your time to think about prices.

Absolutely. These arrogant, self important artist charging and arm and a leg for a freakin sketch! And then they feel entitled to such atrocious prices. And the wrist part is people lay it and only fuel their narcissism.

Ah, worse is when they say "you can't complain, it's just a sketch". Oh come on! It's the artist's fault for ignoring the guidelines and not caring.

absolutely!

o3o what happened?

Let's say I just keep getting ripped off by artists... Yeah.

Well, thats what is the case with everything. Theres a plataeu of 'reasonable price vs quality' but too far on either end it becomes either a ripoff or completely useless.

In fact I would actually go as far as saying that almost all furry art is vastly undervalued for the work put into them compared with industry rates.

The thing is: my prices are already below the standart furry arts and yet, no comissioners. I can't raise them like this.

frankly the furry fandom just isn;t a big enough market to really make a living from and given how crap the economy is lately, people just arent spending money on things they dont absolutely need.

Hmmm... maybe.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/52004994/3.....%20service.jpg

Done that. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/9410558/

all the treu, and the image of GlowFox, too ^^"

Yes, I know.

this is funny and I agree for the more well known artists, us newbies keep our prices relatively reasonable and since our art isnt in super high demand we offer sales all the time to try and scrap by. I can personally say I put my all into every piece because I want to make a name for myself, and I can see improvement in every single piece.

Well, I can relate. Unfortunately, from time to time I get demotivated, so it's my fault too.

If people stopped spending ridiculous amounts on commissions artists would stop charging ridiculous amounts. They only charge the amount people are willing to pay.

If the majority of people are willing to pay, then the amounts aren't so ridiculous, are they? :P

Willing because that's the way it goes. The prices never go down anyways.

I have actually seen a few artists lower their prices before. And anyway, some of them have to make a living off their art and if their prices are too low, they're not going to be able to.

Yes, I know... That makes me demotivated to continue.

Don't like someone's prices? Don't commission them. Pretty simple IMO. Don't quite see why people get so upset over this like they're entitled to someone's work at the price they deem reasonable.

Commission up and coming artists if you wanna save money. Or better yet, learn to do it yourselves lol. Also, just because someone charges more money than others doesn't make them snobby or entitled. What does make someone snobby and entitled is demanding that artists lower their prices for you.

If I like an artist's style, I save up money for them because I expect a good piece of work, right? Unfortunately, that's not the case.

About doing it myself... Come on. I like other people's styles, too. And if an artist simply don't care about your guidelines and simply say "it's a sketch, take it or GTFO" isn't acceptable, it's just... disappointing.

Yes, I agree with what you're saying. My comment was actually driven more towards your other comments on here, but I couldn't reply to them all haha. There's a lot of hate talking about artists charging too much. I say they should accept it and not commission them in that case. I agree with you that if you pay good money, you should get something you're satisfied with though.

The thing is... I feel like my prices are low, but even then I don't get comissions myself. That's why, comparatively, their prices are higher - ergo, costly to me.

Yeah, I totally understand. Some people's prices are out of other people's price range. I just don't like that some people think it's not fair or that they are entitled to art from their favorite artists at a price that is in their favor. My comments weren't really directed at you, just more toward the general feel of the comments left by others.

I see... Unfortunately, because of poor service, some of my favourite artists aren't my favourites anymore. It's very disappointing to trust someone you admire to see they just don't care about your comissions and draw them carelessly.

Yeah, poor service is definitely something that is really lame. I've only had to deal with it once or twice though thankfully. I've been disappointed with art before, but I've also been blown away by some others. Just gotta find those good artists and stick with them or take a risk and see what happens haha.

Yeah, that's the way it goes. Unfortunately, I'm out of money to try.

I don't know which artists you're commissioning, but I've almost always had a good experience with my commissions and they've always produced good results.

It's good if I don't tell names, otherwise there will only be more drama.

I've had an experience like this once or twice. *I won't name names obviously* I try to be tongue-n-cheek about things but when I break down to commission someone I idolize to get:

A) No alerts for a couple months then suddenly hear "okay here you go pay me now". -- Seriously, if not for the creative process then for the sake of budgeting! Communication is a common problem I've seen.
B) Obvious errors in color or lines (or lack there of) -- Had this in a cell shaded commission, part of table was still the wall color, and missing its edge line.

*Tangent* Right or wrong any time I see something within 0.05 seconds of loading the image, I internally table flip.

C) Delivery problems -- I can tolerate honesty, but this one decided to take three weeks to simply visit a mailbox. One attempt was my mailing address was printed wrong (artists fault) and that was forgiven.. but still.
D) Failed Lamination -- Probably uncommon, and from the same artist as my (D) commission.. It was a rectangular badge request. It was CLEARLY cut by hand scissors, rather then a blade or cutter/trimmer.

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I'm tempted to just try re-printing from FA and laminate it myself.

My best commissions have been with artists I've met locally. And their not even big names they just do superb work for someone they befriend.

*grumbles at lack of edit tool* I used to have more bullets. when I say "as my D Commission" It should be "as my C Commission".

See, you're quite something. You've written an exceptional review up there, no joke! I feel the same as you, man.