been waiting forever for this game!

Also some decent still scans.

http://www.gamingeverything.com/201.....scolls_v-3.jpg

actual living dragons heh? i whant one to ride ... both ways

oh god Oh God OH GOD *Passees out*

Unfortunately this is Bethesda we're talking about. the game will look great in still shots, but the horrible animations, bad controls, unintelligible menus, five voice actors for the entire cast and buggy performance will balance out any gains.

It's too bad, because I love the concept behind the games and the world... maybe they've learned their lessons, but I doubt it.

Yea, that's why I never dove into Oblivion 4, the controls were just like... *Facepalm* It would be nice if they did something reletively closer to say, Dragon Age Origins or something.

And there will be mods to fix the animations, menus, and performance.

I just want it to be as immersive as MW was.

Is it too much to ask for that they make a product that you don't have to fix yourself?

I sincerely hope that you are just exaggerating for effect. Nothing in that argument holds any true validity, and it better not dissuade people from purchasing the game.

Those are all pretty accurate descriptions of the bugs/issues that Oblivion had and to a lesser extent Fallout.

Most gamers don't have such high standards. The only offputting part of Oblivion that I ever dealt with was the voice actors being so few in number.

The bugs were there but they didn't destroy the experience. You learn to adapt.

The graphics were great for a video game. The animation also was actually fairly decent. Yes, the mouths didn't match the words, but that's /minor/.

The controls were editable! NEVER complain about an EDIT-CAPABLE control setup! If you don't like it, change the keys in the options menu.

The menus themselves were similar to many other games.

You are talking about death by a thousand papercuts. D: Yes, there are better games, but Oblivion isn't horrible. It's just average. The same goes for the Fallout games. There are bugs and issues but they are minor if you don't go into the game expecting it to suck.

If you go into a game expecting it to suck, you will hate it even if it is flawless.

I didn't say I hated the games, just that Bethseda needs to work on the basics.

And some of my complaints are minor things, but the bugs and control issues are show stoppers.

you can only take so many crashes and freezes where you loose whatever progress you've made before you decide it's not worth the frustration, and the issues with the controls weren't about the key placement, it's with the fact that a lot of the time, the keys you press and what happens on screen don't seem to have much correlation.

Ah ok.

True, I guess everyone has their limit.

I never had that issue with controls. o~o if I saw the wrong action, it was because I pressed the wrong key (and realized it during the ohnosecond that follows all foul-ups).

Yes, the game had bugs. But I'd rather have a company try and do more then the "normal" with bugs, instead of a game that's extremely small and closed ended without bugs. Despite the flaws, The ES series have been phenomenal games with far more content then 99% of games out there.

Hopefully there still will be Argonians. Otherwise I will pass. :P

Most likely since Morrowind had them, and Oblivion had them

:/ Hopefully their scale colors variations will cover areas aside from head and the hands.

Hopefully they'll make them more Reptilian than they did in Oblivion where they just stuck a Tail on them and gave them a different Head. In Morrowind they were more Unique through their Claws and Feet and such~

Well, obviously. They'll keep the base number of races the same, but may have some variations on each.

And hopefully they don't look like the Oblivion ones...

(Why yes that's a modded Morrowind Argonian in my icon. :P Old fursona lol.)

Oblivion's anthros were just terrible all around :<

So cannot wait!

Looks awesome... but I think I'll be waiting for reviews first. Especially given the gameplay and level/stat balancing quirks with Bethesda games (the skill menu does NOT look particularly reassuring.)

Its probably gonna try and murder my computer lD

wants to find out whats being sung int he theme its chants but also can hear for the beast or somthing. and then for the son or sun. Yet only thing i woudl think of beast and sun comeing up woudl be solthistine withthe nordic there.

Yessss :O

Considering Oblivion was shit ugly and taxed systems like Eastern Europe, this would be a welcome change

Oblivion only looked good in stills.

Yes, and only until 2008 had arrived

Video has been removed sadly

WTB gameplay info

I loved Morrowind but Oblivion was a case of one step forward, two steps back. So I'm finding it very hard to get excited about the new one. Especially considering how dumbed down and simplified a lot of the customisation was in Oblivion, if they keep going down that route, they'll end up like Fable.

All technical issues aside, two things annoyed me most...

City guards were both psychic and able to teleport to where you were committing a crime, even if they had no possible way of knowing you'd committed that crime. I tested this by murdering people in their beds at night with one hit kills. I also tested it by climbing onto an inaccessible roof that the AI path finding couldn't manage and shooting people with a bow until a guard magically appeared next to me on the roof to place me under arrest.

The other utterly stupid game design choice was the levelling system that made everything level up along with you. It didn't work well for FFVIII and it's even worse here. It's just ridiculous that a random bandit is geared up like, and as tough as, some legendary warrior.

That's not even touching on the disappointingly simple melee and horribly cumbersome and archiac magic system. Combat for magic users should not consist of constantly running backwards while drinking countless potions in the middle of combat. It's poor game design and there's really no excuse. I found the game balance for different types of character class very poor in general.

Overall, I found the game pretty unplayable on console and only played it heavily modded on PC. At least that way, I could paper over a few of the more serious cracks. I never really understood all the hype about it.

On the other hand, I really enjoyed playing fallout 3, so maybe they'll win me back with Skyrim.

STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMINAL SCUM!!

http://images0.memegenerator.net/Im.....Oblivion-Guard

Two legged dragons are not dragons :/

Technically a Wyvern, but if it has wings and scales it's a dragon to most people.

Tell that to all the fantasy books that include 2-legged dragons.

wyverns are not dragons? You people are hilarious....

No, a wyvern isn't a dragon. It's a dragonKIN, but not a true dragon.

so what the fuck species is a dragonkin then. just a flying lizard? Geuss your the dragon expert.

Dragonkin tend to be a species that has pure draconic blood in it to a certain degree. Wyverns have that, so they're considered dragonkin. And dragonkin aren't a specific species as such... it's just the how much dragon genetics are involved. Dragonkin can be anything from humans who have been born from the mating of a dragon and a human to Kobolds, who claim draconic heritage in their far past.

Also? As stated here, don't take only my word for it. I've been following and researching dragons for nearly 30 years now.... but they *are* fantasy for the most part, and nothing created by me. If you want to believe Wyverns are pure dragons in their own right, feel free to do so. I just wanted to say what I've learned in the time I've been looking into the concept.

.... and it seems you've blocked me over my comment, simple as it was...

People need to learn to grow thicker skin before venturing out into the wilds of the net where someone might have a differing opinion that they don't have to resort to using the word "fuck" to express.

It's a dragon according to an innumerable number of sources. You can't arbitrarily define a creature of legend. D: Dragons are scaley flying repitlian creatures that may possess a varying number of legs, usually 2, 4, or 6. They can be serpentine as well with no legs.

I'm not "arbitrarily" defining anything, to be honest. Just stating what I've learned over time. I've been taken with dragons since I was very young, and very interested in them, so have done all kinds of research on them.

But you're right as well. I can't really define for someone else what a fantasy creature is. That's up to them.

Ok. :3 So it was just your own definition then. That's ok.

I just know there were Pendragons, the Wyvrens, the two-leged arm-winged dragons (like a bat!), and the occasional dragon-serpent. xD

video was removed x.=.x and geez what's with the bickering in this journal >.=.>

The internet exist to let people argue about inconsequential things.... And porn.

"This video has been removed as part of YouTube's policy against SPAM, SCAMS and DECEPTIVE CONTENT".

Kinda makes you wonder if they were posting false info, doesn't it?

Nah, scans were legit. Google search the scans. They are all over the place. Game Informer Skyrim Scans

Youtube says the information was deceptive content and was removed.

Nah, scans were legit. Google search the scans. They are all over the place. Game Informer Skyrim Scans

I'll wait until I get the game. :3

I must admit, Morrowind was awesome, Oblivion was great, I expect this to be merely, okay at best, horrific at worst.
Why has Bethesda slowly been falling apart? They were so good... they even abandoned some of their more dedicated players in exchange for people who play Xbox and whatnot.

It might not be them getting worse. It might be us expecting more of the same that we were used to. After all, as a game company makes more and more games in a line, they usually change with each game. The changes might not actually be 'worse', but because they are /different/ we will perceive it as such. It's not the same experience each time, so our first one was our best one.

I'd have to agree with petrock here. Everyone complains and bitches about how buggy Oblivion and Fallow 3 was. But they fail to realize how horribly buggy Morrowind was. Morrowind was considerably more buggy then anything Bethesda has done after. If anything, Bethesda has gotten better with there games reliability/stability. Hell, when morrowind first came out, you couldn't even beat the game because the main quest was bugged =p Peoples expectations have just risen way to high due to all the really shallow and short games that have come out in the past 6-8 years. When a game only takes 8 hours to beat, the content is microscopic compared to an Elder Scrolls game and that's why they have so few bugs. The more content and complexity you add to a game, the more bugs your going to have.

Well, I love Fallout 3, and it was only slightly buggy in my opinion.
Oblivion and Morrowind were not that buggy if you installed the patches Bethesda gives.
Bugs and glitches were never a problem for me. What was a problem was usually the content.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/new.....Details-Leaked

the video's been removed